NationStates Jolt Archive

I encountered what I thought to be an odd perspective on the whole Gay Marriage debate today, and I was wondering if others have encountered this, if it is relatively common.

This particular conservative mindset holds that homosexuals and those who support and accept them, are attempting to force Christians to accept gay marriage. It seems that those who hold this belief see a conflict where both sides are trying to force something on the other and only one side can win. Needless to say, this entire way of thinking is discouraging to me. They do not accept the rights for gays to marry because they incorrectly see it as an infringement on their rights. In their world view, they are the persecuted and oppressed, not the gays.

Personally, I think they have a bad case of Early Church Envy, but it is still sa dthat these particular conservatives are incapable of seeing the government as anything but a means to enforce morality.

You mean this isn't the only "No gay marraige" mindset? It's the only one I've ever seen.

You mean this isn't the only "No gay marraige" mindset? It's the only one I've ever seen.
The only one I’ve ever encountered before is that it defies tradition of some sort.

I would abolish state-marriage to allow it to evolve more freely, but the current incentives are too great, so it wouldn't work. Legalise it.


(I swear it wasn't me...it was Rotovia that started it)

In 30-40 years, some High School will write an essay about the opposition to gay marriage in the first years of the 21st Century, and when that student is done writing, they will shake their head and think "What the fuck was wrong with these people?".

Actually they see any attempts to give gays equal rights as heterosexuals as tantamount to collaborating with an enemy that's intend on turning everyone into flaming fags. Picture a George Romero movie with gays instead of zombies.

In 30-40 years, some High School will write an essay about the opposition to gay marriage in the first years of the 21st Century, and when that student is done writing, they will shake their head and think "What the fuck was wrong with these people?".
I’d hope that after writing that paper he would know the answer to that question.

I’d hope that after writing that paper he would know the answer to that question.

Well they probably do, doesn't mean they still won't think it.

In 30-40 years, some High School will write an essay about the opposition to gay marriage in the first years of the 21st Century, and when that student is done writing, they will shake their head and think "What the fuck was wrong with these people?".30-40 years? I hear people say that now. ;)

The town that i lived next to in new york had one of the first to have the mayor wed 24 gay/lesbian couples w/o a marriage license. He was charged w/ 24 misdemeanors and was tried in court

http://www.gay.com/news/roundups/package.html?sernum=1229

Then, eventually 24 counts were droped.

http://www.gpnys.org/?p=168

Well, I have never believed that churches should be forced to marry gays, since in most religions a preacher can refuse to marry any couple. However, I don't, and have never seen how ceremonies of marriage that are either secular, or from a religion accepting of difference in sexuality are imposing themselves on Christianity. Christianity doesn't have to change.

I'm probably not saying what I think right. Don't flame me if I sounded narrow-minded and bigoted. I'm not.

Well, I have never believed that churches should be forced to marry gays, since in most religions a preacher can refuse to marry any couple. However, I don't, and have never seen how ceremonies of marriage that are either secular, or from a religion accepting of difference in sexuality are imposing themselves on Christianity. Christianity doesn't have to change.

I'm probably not saying what I think right. Don't flame me if I sounded narrow-minded and bigoted. I'm not.
I think you said it perfectly.