NationStates Jolt Archive


Secret Society

The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:36
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent and fighting evil? I do.
Stone Bridges
18-02-2006, 04:38
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent? I do.

Skulls and Bones type society?
The Nazz
18-02-2006, 04:39
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent? I do.
If there is, it's doing a really shitty job.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:42
Skulls and Bones type society?
No, I mean like something we haven't even heard of.
Qarez
18-02-2006, 04:42
Maybe it would be a lot worse without them?

We can't know...
Deep Kimchi
18-02-2006, 04:43
If there is, it's doing a really shitty job.

Sometimes, when I read posts like the OP, I wonder if the youth of today watch too much TV.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:44
If there is, it's doing a really shitty job.
Maybe they can't do any better (if they are real) because the members aren't rich and they don't have support from any governments.
Deep Kimchi
18-02-2006, 04:44
No, I mean like something we haven't even heard of.
1. People can't keep secrets.
2. Good and evil tends to be a relative thing, so they're bound to mess up even if they do exist.
3. Stop watching Batman Begins over and over again.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:47
1. People can't keep secrets.
2. Good and evil tends to be a relative thing, so they're bound to mess up even if they do exist.
3. Stop watching Batman Begins over and over again.
1. People can keep secrets, or at least some can.
2. Many people share a basic view of the differnce between right and wrong.
3. I haven't even seen Batman Begins
Economic Associates
18-02-2006, 04:48
Shh the bavarian illuminati might be listening....:rolleyes:
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:51
Maybe it would be a lot worse without them?

We can't know...
Yeah, exactly.
Deep Kimchi
18-02-2006, 04:53
1. People can keep secrets, or at least some can.
2. I haven't even seen Batman Begins

The ability to keep a secret is proportional to the number of people who know the secret.

It's commonly said that if two people know a secret, it's not a secret.

One of the only secret societies in the US to keep its living members' identities a secret is the Seven Society - because it only has seven members.

A worldwide "evil fighting" organization would have to have too many members to keep it a secret.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:53
Shh the bavarian illuminati might be listening....:rolleyes:
Let them listen.
Liverbreath
18-02-2006, 04:54
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent and fighting evil? I do.

No but there sure as hell are some semi secret societies totally dedicated to screwing the innocent and determining the definition of evil.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 04:55
The ability to keep a secret is proportional to the number of people who know the secret.

It's commonly said that if two people know a secret, it's not a secret.

One of the only secret societies in the US to keep its living members' identities a secret is the Seven Society - because it only has seven members.

A worldwide "evil fighting" organization would have to have too many members to keep it a secret.
Well, not for sure. A large group of people can keep a secret. . . If they have a good reason to. Some friends of mine and I keep secrets, we tell only those who are to know.
The Nazz
18-02-2006, 04:56
The ability to keep a secret is proportional to the number of people who know the secret.

It's commonly said that if two people know a secret, it's not a secret.
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "three can keep a secret if two are dead."
Stone Bridges
18-02-2006, 04:59
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "three can keep a secret if two are dead."

Thus the phrase "I'll tell you, but then I'll have to kill you." was born!
Economic Associates
18-02-2006, 05:04
Let them listen.

Swing and a miss.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 05:07
A worldwide "evil fighting" organization would have to have too many members to keep it a secret.
This, and every other truism about the inability to keep secrets, is based on terrible logic. To effectively establish such a fact, one has to have enough statistical data, however, you'll never be able to gather such data.
For example: If everyone in the room but you is keeping a secret, and they do so successfully, you will never have known that the secret existed (and therefore, wouldn't know that it was successfully kept).
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:09
This, and every other truism about the inability to keep secrets, is based on terrible logic. To effectively establish such a fact, one has to have enough statistical data, however, you'll never be able to gather such data.
For example: If everyone in the room but you is keeping a secret, and they do so successfully, you will never have known that the secret existed (and therefore, wouldn't know that it was successfully kept).
That is true.
Devlyn
18-02-2006, 05:12
Well, if there were, I singlehandedly destroyed it countless millenia ago. Evil always triumphs, after all.

*evil laugh*
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:13
Well, if there were, I singlehandedly destroyed it countless millenia ago. Evil always triumphs, after all.

*evil laugh*
Good will alway win in the end, though it may seem for a time that evil has triumphed.
Saige Dragon
18-02-2006, 05:18
A worldwide "evil fighting" organization would have to have too many members to keep it a secret.

That's only what they want you to think to create disbelief in the existence of such a secret....>_>.....<_<.....>_>

I'd put my money on some society made up of shorter, pudgey british guys with black suits and bowler hats.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:19
That's only what they want you to think to create disbelief in the existence of such a secret....>_>.....<_<.....>_>

I'd put my money on some society made up of shorter, pudgey british guys with black suits and bowler hats.
I would think that such a society would have to be made up of people of many different nationalities.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 05:23
I would think that such a society would have to be made up of people of many different nationalities.
You're right. They'd probably have a drunken, Irish guy in their somewhere for comic relief.
Deep Kimchi
18-02-2006, 05:24
You're right. They'd probably have a drunken, Irish guy in their somewhere for comic relief.
So, aside from Ted Kennedy, who is in the secret society?
Yurka
18-02-2006, 05:26
So, aside from Ted Kennedy, who is in the secret society?

Robot Hitler, Ghandi, A Polish Transvestite, and Zirk the beloved space goldfish.
Czardas
18-02-2006, 05:27
Good will alway win in the end, though it may seem for a time that evil has triumphed.
Nothing I haven't heard before from the trillions of similarly naïve role-playing game heroes I've slain treacherously and sadistically over the past Multiversal Year or so by betraying them to the Awful Monster of Doom and disemboweling them with a herring.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:28
So, aside from Ted Kennedy, who is in the secret society?
Some one that I know.:cool:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 05:30
So, aside from Ted Kennedy, who is in the secret society?
GODDAMMIT!
*grabs secret cell phone and calls secret number*
They've found out Senator Rudoulph! I repeat, they've found out Senator Rudoulph! Abort operation Clandestine King, at once.
Wait, I don't think this line is secure. In fact, I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that I am writing down a transcript of my words as I say them . . .
Czardas
18-02-2006, 05:33
GODDAMMIT!
*grabs secret cell phone and calls secret number*
They've found out Senator Rudoulph! I repeat, they've found out Senator Rudoulph! Abort operation Clandestine King, at once.
Wait, I don't think this line is secure. In fact, I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that I am writing down a transcript of my words as I say them . . .
*sighs* You always do that, Agent Fiddles... Commence Operation Orange Lobster, deploy all Uber Secret Black Shadow Troll Paratroopers, and... wait a minute, now I'm doing it too. Curses! *flies away in black cape, shooting teh orbital UBERLAZ3r 0f D00M at random people as a distraction*
Undelia
18-02-2006, 05:35
Well, not for sure. A large group of people can keep a secret. . . If they have a good reason to. Some friends of mine and I keep secrets, we tell only those who are to know.
Didn’t your mother ever tell you that it isn’t polite to gossip?:p
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:39
Didn’t your mother ever tell you that it isn’t polite to gossip?:p
Who said that my secrets were gossip?
Czardas
18-02-2006, 05:42
Who said that my secrets were gossip?
Well, none of them are about my new plans for a plasma-based thermal 2500mm Death Star-based rotary planet annihilation ion cannon Mk. XII, are they? No? Thus, they're probably gossip, as is anything of lesser importance.
Gwabistan
18-02-2006, 05:44
This idea of a "secret sociaty" is a definate. Secrets and a dark and mysterious part of every culture and sociaty. Although the idea of the fighting evil is a nice thought, one must relize that evil is sometimes merly a point of view, because the right thing is always the "good" thing.
Gwabistan
18-02-2006, 05:46
This idea of a "secret sociaty" is a definate. Secrets are a dark and mysterious part of every culture and sociaty. Although the idea of the fighting evil is a nice thought, one must relize that evil is sometimes merly a point of view, because the right thing is always the "good" thing.
People without names
18-02-2006, 05:48
The ability to keep a secret is proportional to the number of people who know the secret.

It's commonly said that if two people know a secret, it's not a secret.


well in that case its very easy to keep secrets.
for example.
do you know what i was doing in my room all alone last night?
i do!;)
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 05:51
well in that case its very easy to keep secrets.
for example.
do you know what i was doing in my room all alone last night?
i do!;)
yes, and i have two things to say: 1) you should really shut your blinds more often, and 2) you walk on your mother's livingroom carpet with that shoe?!?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 05:53
Well, none of them are about my new plans for a plasma-based thermal 2500mm Death Star-based rotary planet annihilation ion cannon Mk. XII, are they? No? Thus, they're probably gossip, as is anything of lesser importance.
How did you know that I found out about that?:confused:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 05:54
well in that case its very easy to keep secrets.
for example.
do you know what i was doing in my room all alone last night?
i do!;)
Yeah, but he said that it isn't a secret once two people know, and I was watchi-
Er . . . um . . .
*ahem*
Weeeeeell then, *runs out of the thread*
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 05:55
let's see... already saw a reference to Batman Begins... already got beat to the punch about the "three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead" line... and the inheirant flaw in scientifically proving or disproving the existance of a secret organization or secrets in general...already made a crude sexual about a random poster and his shoe...

well, i guess the only thing left to say is "these aren't the droids you're looking for *waves his fingers*"
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:00
well, i guess the only thing left to say is "these aren't the droids you're looking for *waves his fingers*"
Sure they're not. :rolleyes:
Czardas
18-02-2006, 06:01
How did you know that I found out about that?:confused:
I am the Supreme Ruler of the Multiverse. I know all.
WORSHIP ME! I DEMAND HUMAN SACRIFICE! NOW!
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:02
Sure they're not. :rolleyes:
ha-HA... it's working...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 06:04
I am the Supreme Ruler of the Multiverse. I know all.
WORSHIP ME! I DEMAND HUMAN SACRIFICE! NOW!
Eh, my poor little lad. I always telling you, Multiverses are the, how you say? Small chips. The big money these days is in indoor/outdoor furnishings.
That, and bran muffins.
[/broken english]
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:06
I am the Supreme Ruler of the Multiverse.
For the time being you are. . .
[ WORSHIP ME! I DEMAND HUMAN SACRIFICE! NOW!
I will not sacrifice those I swore to protect to you, and why would I bow to you?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:08
ha-HA... it's working...
You didn't let me finish. I was going to say that they weren't any more.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:13
Keyi, I have to know, whose puppet are you? TG me about it if you don't want to reveal it in this thread. This craziness is genius!
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:14
Eh, my poor little lad. I always telling you, Multiverses are the, how you say? Small chips. The big money these days is in indoor/outdoor furnishings.
That, and bran muffins.
[/broken english]
it only seems like broken english, since we mere four-dimentional beings cannot truely fathom the nuances and inflections involved in trans-locational communication
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:16
You didn't let me finish. I was going to say that they weren't any more.
i would think you're implying you destroyed my droids, if not for the fact that they are still perfectly intact right here. and the fact that i am actually a mentalist, meaning what i percieve to be reality is reality.

oh yes, i brought that bag of nerddom into play...
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:17
Keyi, I have to know, whose puppet are you? TG me about it if you don't want to reveal it in this thread. This craziness is genius!
I am not a puppet. What would give you that idea?
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:23
I am not a puppet. What would give you that idea?

Hmm...well you do appear to have some posts outside of this thread, and a name that isn't blatantly anything (that I know of), so you could actually be someone's main nation, but I'm just having trouble believing that someone would do an elaborate joke like this with their primary nation. Usually people create a puppet for it, if only for the stealth value.
Notaxia
18-02-2006, 06:26
I guess Keyi has no secrets about secrets...
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:27
Let's just say that there really is a secret society that protects the innocent and fights against wrong/evil. Would any of you join it, if given the chance?
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:34
Let's just say that there really is a secret society that protects the innocent and fights against wrong/evil. Would any of you join it, if given the chance?

Depends. What sort of wages do I get?

Oh yeah, and what's wrong/evil?
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:35
Let's just say that there really is a secret society that protects the innocent and fights against wrong/evil. Would any of you join it, if given the chance?
well... if we would join, we couldn't answer, since it's a SECRET SOCIETY :D
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:35
Depends. What sort of wages do I get?
$300 a month, if active.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:36
$300 a month, if active.

And one does what if one is active?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:37
Oh yeah, and what's wrong/evil?
Satanic activities and oppression of innocent peoples.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:38
Satanic activities and oppression of innocent peoples.

So Satanism is evil? Every branch, or specific ones? Also, who is innocent?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:39
And one does what if one is active?
Move around from place to place and assist people in need. All tickets are paid for by the society. Can't say how you would do to help, that would be determined after the leaders got to know you.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:41
So Satanism is evil? Every branch, or specific ones? Also, who is innocent?
Yes, as Satan is evil, all Satanism is evil. The innocent are those who did nothing to anger or encourage their oppressers.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:43
Yes, as Satan is evil, all Satanism is evil. The innocent are those who did nothing to anger or encourage their oppressers.
hypothetical: i'm living in Nazi Germany and hiding Jews to save them from the concentration camps. the SS finds out that i was attempting (and succeding, for a long while) to twart their ways, and executes me on the spot.

by your definition, i am NOT an innocent person ;)
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:43
Move around from place to place and assist people in need. All tickets are paid for by the society. Can't say how you would do to help, that would be determined after the leaders got to know you.

Would assisting people be more likely (I know you can't tell me specifics, but just give me likelihoods) with money, labor, actually fighting/killing, information, or what? Also, you didn't answer my Satanism question. One of my friends was a Satanist back in middle school. Which branches do you consider evil?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:45
hypothetical: i'm living in Nazi Germany and hiding Jews to save them from the concentration camps. the SS finds out that i was attempting (and succeding, for a long while) to twart their ways, and executes me on the spot.

by your definition, i am NOT an innocent person ;)
No, you are not innocent, but you are doing the right thing, and I would support that even if no one else would.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:46
Yes, as Satan is evil, all Satanism is evil. The innocent are those who did nothing to anger or encourage their oppressers.

So Satanists receive direct messages from Satan? I'm guessing not. Many types of Satanism have relatively benevolent conceptions of morality, including rules against harming children and animals, and a general regard for the value of human life and human choice. Are these groups evil? Also, as Satanists usually don't do anything to anger or encourage your organization, they would be classified as innocents, and thus you would be classified as evil in oppressing them.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:47
Would assisting people be more likely (I know you can't tell me specifics, but just give me likelihoods) with money, labor, actually fighting/killing, information, or what? Also, you didn't answer my Satanism question. One of my friends was a Satanist back in middle school. Which branches do you consider evil?
Probably through labor and information, fighting would be a possiblity but that is impossible to say since I do not know you
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:49
So Satanists receive direct messages from Satan? I'm guessing not. Many types of Satanism have relatively benevolent conceptions of morality, including rules against harming children and animals, and a general regard for the value of human life and human choice. Are these groups evil? Also, as Satanists usually don't do anything to anger or encourage your organization, they would be classified as innocents, and thus you would be classified as evil in oppressing them.
I would not oppress them, but I fight against demonic forces and though I would not directly touch them, I would effect them. I believe that all Satanism is evil because Satan is evil and thus it is evil to worship him.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:49
Many types of Satanism have relatively benevolent conceptions of morality, including rules against harming children and animals, and a general regard for the value of human life and human choice.
they must know a different Satan than the one i was told about :rolleyes:
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:50
Probably through labor and information, fighting would be a possiblity but that is impossible to say since I do not know you

Where/against who does most of your organization's action take place? Mostly fighting Satanists would be fairly silly. Would I be working in the US (fighting poverty, checking excesses of power, etc.) or abroad (vs. totalitarian governments, sweatshop labor, etc.)? In short, who is the enemy? Also, what sort of personal expenditures of time/money would have to be made?
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:52
I would not oppress them, but I fight against demonic forces and though I would not directly touch them, I would effect them. I believe that all Satanism is evil because Satan is evil and thus it is evil to worship him.

Do I have to believe in Satan to be part of your organization? And when you say "fight demonic forces" do you mean evil in the world or actual flesh-and-blood demons?
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:52
Where/against who does most of your organization's action take place? Mostly fighting Satanists would be fairly silly. Would I be working in the US (fighting poverty, checking excesses of power, etc.) or abroad (vs. totalitarian governments, sweatshop labor, etc.)? In short, who is the enemy? Also, what sort of personal expenditures of time/money would have to be made?
you sure do ask a lot of questions of a secret organization :rolleyes:
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:53
they must know a different Satan than the one i was told about :rolleyes:

Read "The Satanist Bible". I think it's LaVeyan Satanism, though I'm not sure. In any case, its mostly a particularly anti-christian, individualistic, form of secular humanism.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:55
you sure do ask a lot of questions of a secret organization :rolleyes:

Shhh! Don't tell him that!

In all seriousness, do I not need to know what I'm getting into if I'm going to aid in fighting evil?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:55
Where/against who does most of your organization's action take place? Mostly fighting Satanists would be fairly silly. Would I be working in the US (fighting poverty, checking excesses of power, etc.) or abroad (vs. totalitarian governments, sweatshop labor, etc.)? In short, who is the enemy? Also, what sort of personal expenditures of time/money would have to be made?
The enemy is Satan himself. You would work in America as well as abroad, though I cannot say where because that would depend on what languages you speak and where you are needed. You would most likely be fighting against poverty (yes, Satan is still the enemy as he causes sin and poverty is a result of sin) or keeping an eye on exesses of power, though if your intrests lie elsewhere, then you would be doing something else.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:56
The enemy is Satan himself. You would work in America as well as abroad, though I cannot say where because that would depend on what languages you speak and where you are needed. You would most likely be fighting against poverty (yes, Satan is still the enemy as he causes sin and poverty is a result of sin) or keeping an eye on exesses of power, though if your intrests lie elsewhere, then you would be doing something else.

So this gets back to the fundamental question: do I have to believe that some being named Satan exists somewhere in the multiverse in order to join your organization?

Also, poverty is a result of sin? Do you mean to say that people who are poor are poor because they have sinned?
Like-Minded Persons
18-02-2006, 06:56
Sign me up! I need something better to do on my friday nights than poke around for interesting forum convos...
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:57
Do I have to believe in Satan to be part of your organization? And when you say "fight demonic forces" do you mean evil in the world or actual flesh-and-blood demons?
Yes, you would have to believe in Satan because most of what would be done is based on belief in God and in Satan. Demons are not physical, they are spiritual. It is hard to say wether you would fight them or what they cause, I do both.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 06:58
Shhh! Don't tell him that!

In all seriousness, do I not need to know what I'm getting into if I'm going to aid in fighting evil?
in my expe - er... understanding, the organizations tend to contact you, and usually only when they're already pretty sure you'd accept anyway ;)
Like-Minded Persons
18-02-2006, 06:59
I always thought it would be fun to actually meet one of these dwemonic forces I have been hearing so much about....
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 06:59
Yes, you would have to believe in Satan because most of what would be done is based on belief in God and in Satan. Demons are not physical, they are spiritual. It is hard to say wether you would fight them or what they cause, I do both.

Does said God have to be the Christian God? Can I be Jewish or Muslim? What about Hindu? Deist?

Is Satan Dante's Inferno style, or more metaphorical?
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 06:59
in my expe - er... understanding, the organizations tend to contact you, and usually only when they're already pretty sure you'd accept anyway ;)
Yes, that is how it works.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 07:00
Does said God have to be the Christian God? Can I be Jewish or Muslim? What about Hindu? Deist?

Is Satan Dante's Inferno style, or more metaphorical?
Yes, it must be the God of the Christians, though that is the same God as the God of Jews, Christians just believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Satan is a fallen angel.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 07:02
Yes, that is how it works.
heh... not one for subtlety when it comes to your "secret" organization, are ye? :p
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 07:02
I always thought it would be fun to actually meet one of these dwemonic forces I have been hearing so much about....
It wouldn't be fun, but it is intresting to meet one.
Vegas-Rex
18-02-2006, 07:03
Yes, it must be the God of the Christians, though that is the same God as the God of Jews, Christians just believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Satan is a fallen angel.

Well, I have to go, but I'll tell you my one major problem with joining your no doubt noble cause: I'm an atheist.
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 07:03
heh... not one for subtlety when it comes to your "secret" organization, are ye? :p
Not usually, but if they found out I was posting this. . . I don't want to think about it.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 07:04
okay, so maybe i was being unfair... there are at least two levels of "secret" organization... ones that are "known" to exist, but no one knows who's in it or how pervasive it is (see also: Illuminati), and those that are so secret that people don't even know they exist (see also: ???) ;)
The Keyi
18-02-2006, 07:05
I will catch up with everything that is said after this post later, don't worry I will answer almost all of you questions sometime soon, don't hesitate to continue without me.
Plumtopia
18-02-2006, 07:08
well y'all, it's been an envigorating experience, but i'm off now to a party... luck and levels :)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-02-2006, 07:41
Read "The Satanist Bible". I think it's LaVeyan Satanism, though I'm not sure. In any case, its mostly a particularly anti-christian, individualistic, form of secular humanism.
Or better yet, don't.
Avoid all copies of that unreadable, commericialist (Avon Books, in fact, originally came up with the idea, they then commisioned LeVey to hammer it out because they thought they could sell a Satanist's Bible to Middle Schoolers and Goths) tripe. Much better to read the original (superior) manuscripts that were plariagised in its creation (ie Might is Right and Atlas Shrugged).
The Keyi
23-02-2006, 23:26
Does any one here have any good information on the New World Order (I am writting a report for my pastor on my theory of end time- the Tribulation- and in my research see a lot of facts lining up, but need more before I can write the report)?
Super-power
23-02-2006, 23:27
The Freemasons are out there *shifty eyes*
DHomme
23-02-2006, 23:47
Does any one here have any good information on the New World Order (I am writting a report for my pastor on my theory of end time- the Tribulation- and in my research see a lot of facts lining up, but need more before I can write the report)?

Skull and Bones, Freemasons, Israeli agents and something about John Paul II. That's all you need to mention.
Did I mention that I am, in fact, Jesus Christ?
Gravlen
23-02-2006, 23:56
Ha! There are no secret societies on a global scale, and definently none that ANY persons on this board is a member of, nor do these non-existing societies partake in any conspiracies, because, hahaha, who really believes that there is a conspiracy? You'd have to have seen too much X-Files to believe something THAT crazy!

The most important thing to remember is that there is no such thing as the Illuminati. It's all a hoax! :cool: Fnord
Third Frontier
24-02-2006, 00:23
I bet theres a secret orginization of exactly 12 people that control everything since the 50s. The Kennedy assasination was attempted by a group of people attempting to shed light to this fact, but failed. The Nixon resignation was because of a rogue agent ( Think "Resovior Dogs"), but he was killed by the government. Unfortunantly, some of the facts went public, and something had to be done. Everything has a purpose, and nothing is random....
The Keyi
24-02-2006, 03:17
Skull and Bones, Freemasons, Israeli agents and something about John Paul II. That's all you need to mention.
Did I mention that I am, in fact, Jesus Christ?
I need details, like the plans for the ten super nations and the hereditary oligarchy' structure exlained in more detail.
The Keyi
24-02-2006, 03:21
Ha! There are no secret societies on a global scale, and definently none that ANY persons on this board is a member of, nor do these non-existing societies partake in any conspiracies, because, hahaha, who really believes that there is a conspiracy? You'd have to have seen too much X-Files to believe something THAT crazy!

The most important thing to remember is that there is no such thing as the Illuminati. It's all a hoax! :cool: Fnord
I haven't watch more than ten minutes of X-Files, this is a theory that I came up with on my own. I would bet that one of us is in a secret society, they are not to uncommon. I know of one through a friend that operates on a national scale. It is very young, so why couldn't an older one operate internationally? I don't know what to think about all of the conspiracies, my guess would be that none are completly true, but each holds a piece of the truth, which is a complex thing to understand.
The Keyi
24-02-2006, 03:23
I bet theres a secret orginization of exactly 12 people that control everything since the 50s. The Kennedy assasination was attempted by a group of people attempting to shed light to this fact, but failed. The Nixon resignation was because of a rogue agent ( Think "Resovior Dogs"), but he was killed by the government. Unfortunantly, some of the facts went public, and something had to be done. Everything has a purpose, and nothing is random....
You seem to know a lot about this group, maybe you could tell us more. . .

I agree that everything has a purpose. Almost nothing is random.
Ga-halek
24-02-2006, 04:54
There are secret societies that operate on a global scale; anyone of these societies would view themselves as good (you wouldn't devote yourself to such a cause if you didn't believe it to be right). In any case "good" is entirely relative, though it is of course true that there are many common opinions on the matter. I highly doubt that any of these societies is involved in directly (i.e. physically) protecting the "innocent." "Innocence" is a rather useless term since if someone breaks an unjust law they are not "innocent" but you (Keyi) have already said that you would protect someone who violated the laws of the Nazis.

Satanism (the actual Church of Satan, not disgruntled teenagers who claim to worship satan), does not actually even believe in Satan as the literal fallen angel (or believe in angels, demons, the Christian God or any of that stuff). They revere the archetypal adversary that they believe appears in many religions; such as Satan in Christianity, Set in Egyptian mythology, Loki in Norse mythology, and Hades in Greek mythology (an intelligent analysis shows that Hades was not an adversary and I would argue that Loki was not necessarily an adversary either). This reverence takes the form of self-glofication and accepting the seven deadly sins as virtues. It's a very poorly thought out religion, largely inspired by the philosophies of Ayn Rand and Nietzsche among others mixed with some carefully chosen features of a variety of Pagan faiths, a few inverted Christian beliefs, and magickal beliefs from John Dee and Alesiter Crawley (sp?).
Ga-halek
24-02-2006, 04:58
Does any one here have any good information on the New World Order (I am writting a report for my pastor on my theory of end time- the Tribulation- and in my research see a lot of facts lining up, but need more before I can write the report)?

I strongly advise you take any information regarding the "New World Order" with a hefty grain of salt. There is obviously alot of deception going on (the media cannot be trusted nor can any of the motives of American government or Israel) but I have seen no reason to beleive that there is a secret society above all of this that is controlling everything.
The Keyi
24-02-2006, 05:33
I strongly advise you take any information regarding the "New World Order" with a hefty grain of salt. There is obviously alot of deception going on (the media cannot be trusted nor can any of the motives of American government or Israel) but I have seen no reason to beleive that there is a secret society above all of this that is controlling everything.
I don't think that they could control everything.
Trinitron Tower
24-02-2006, 06:29
Some secrects, even if you show people proof of it's existence, will just land you into the mental ward, labeling you with a mental illness. PHYCO! :headbang:
Jig A Bootia
24-02-2006, 07:28
There are no secrets. It's just that no one knows how to ask the right people the right questions.

I've known a few Satanist. They seem to be more interested in art, mostly music, than anything else. I wonder if there are any on NS (There just about everything else here.)
Secret aj man
24-02-2006, 08:38
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent and fighting evil? I do.

i fight for evil and shit on innocents..i am an american after all....booya
Skibereen
24-02-2006, 08:43
If there is, it's doing a really shitty job.
Their just under funded, under staffed, and under qualified.
Revnia
24-02-2006, 09:40
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent and fighting evil? I do.

I wish there were, and that I could join it.
The Keyi
25-02-2006, 22:14
I wish there were, and that I could join it.
Maybe one day.
The Keyi
04-03-2006, 19:56
Their just under funded, under staffed, and under qualified.
Tell me about it.
Judge Learned Hand
04-04-2006, 06:08
Wow I know this thread is dead and all but I just read your "how do I fight demon's post" and then found this one. Keyi you really are a basket case.
The Keyi
14-04-2006, 03:03
Wow I know this thread is dead and all but I just read your "how do I fight demon's post" and then found this one. Keyi you really are a basket case.
Thanks, I mean really. This answers a lot of questions. . .
Economic Associates
14-04-2006, 03:35
Quick question. Have you seen the Fnords yet?
New Granada
14-04-2006, 03:47
What on earth would give anyone such a silly impression?


Evil is winning, by a landslide.
Muravyets
14-04-2006, 04:04
Well, not for sure. A large group of people can keep a secret. . . If they have a good reason to. Some friends of mine and I keep secrets, we tell only those who are to know.
Just like you're keeping this secret, eh?
The Keyi
24-04-2006, 03:42
Just like you're keeping this secret, eh?
Um. . . Well, I guess I did give it away, but no one knows who I am or we are, and I don't think many people have taken it seriously. I keep the secret to an extend, and I am probably the only one who would get as close as I have to giving it away completly. I have many other secrets that I share with Master Ninshnika and Councillor La'Pollearre, but those I can tell no one in any form because of how close to the heart of our rather large secret (which I have failed at keeping, though I don't know whether it counts or not) it lies. But, even if a secret society is given away, the member's true name can be kept a secret and so the society remains a secret.
The Keyi
24-04-2006, 03:49
I wish there were, and that I could join it.
Telegram me, if you still mean it. I just would like to speak with you. . .
The Keyi
24-04-2006, 04:27
There are no secrets. It's just that no one knows how to ask the right people the right questions.

I've known a few Satanist. They seem to be more interested in art, mostly music, than anything else. I wonder if there are any on NS (There just about everything else here.)
Satanists? Are you suggesting that Satan reveals peoples' secrets to them? Well, some, maybe, but Satan is not omniscient.
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-04-2006, 04:34
Do any of you think that there must be some sort of secret society watching out for and protecting the innocent and fighting evil? I do.

I think it's protecting evil and fighting the innocent.
The Keyi
24-04-2006, 04:35
I think it's protecting evil and fighting the innocent.
Yes, there is unfourtantly one like that as well.
Dobbsworld
24-04-2006, 04:39
No, I mean like something we haven't even heard of.
I think it's got something to do with fluoridation.
The Keyi
24-04-2006, 04:43
I think it's got something to do with fluoridation.
How so?