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Just another mindless thing to talk about.

How do you like yours?

The poll only includes the choice of gin or vodka because that seems to be the most hotly debated part of the martini.

When I did drink, I'd make mine with Gilbey's gin, a finger splash of sweet vermouthe, and 3 olives. Nummy!

Stirred, not shaken (how it actually is in the books btw)

Seriously though, I don't drink very much anyway, and only being 16 and a bit haven't had much opprtunities to do so even if I did feel so inclined, but once I have a martini I shall let you know.

Start with a frozen martini glass.

Cut a sharp onion in half, rub against the rim of the glass.

In a cocktail shaker, put 2 oz of gin (preferably Tanqueray) or 2 oz of vodka (preferably Ketel One), and about half a teaspoon of dry vermouth.

Add a few cubes of ice - close shaker and shake.

Strain into the frozen glass. Add two olives on a toothpick.

Done properly, there should be very little alcohol taste - it should taste like refreshing ice cold water.

Start with a frozen martini glass.

Cut a sharp onion in half, rub against the rim of the glass.

In a cocktail shaker, put 2 oz of gin (preferably Tanqueray) or 2 oz of vodka (preferably Ketel One), and about half a teaspoon of dry vermouth.

Add a few cubes of ice - close shaker and shake.

Strain into the frozen glass. Add two olives on a toothpick.

Done properly, there should be very little alcohol taste - it should taste like refreshing ice cold water.

Why not just drink refreshing ice cold water then? Saves time, effort, money, and unpleasant after effects.

In a cocktail shaker, put 2 oz of gin (preferably Tanqueray) or 2 oz of vodka (preferably Ketel One), and about half a teaspoon of dry vermouth.


Mmkay ... next time I'm in London, you're making me a martini.

Why not just drink refreshing ice cold water then? Saves time, effort, money, and unpleasant after effects.
The martini is better.

Then again, a proper beer is better than water as well.

The martini is better.

Then again, a proper beer is better than water as well.

How so? Other than looking nicer, and being cooler to order.

Bacon martini.

Double Down (http://www.doubledownsaloon.com/)

How so? Other than looking nicer, and being cooler to order.
Come down to London and I'll get you a decent beer. Then you won't ask why.

Not a large fan of martinis in the least bit, but if it had to be one or the other, I prefer gin.

Come down to London and I'll get you a decent beer. Then you won't ask why.

*Up* :p I live on the south coast :D Or failing that can you recommend any?

Just another mindless thing to talk about.

How do you like yours?

The poll only includes the choice of gin or vodka because that seems to be the most hotly debated part of the martini.

When I did drink, I'd make mine with Gilbey's gin, a finger splash of sweet vermouthe, and 3 olives. Nummy!
Gin, Bombay Saphire. Very little dry vermouth. Just enough to moisten the ice cubes in the shaker. served with olives or a pickled tabasco pepper.

I go with a Bombay Sapphire martini extra dry (washed glass), straight up with 3 olives.

Take martini glass. Fill with ice and soda.
fill large shaker 1/2 full of ice. pour 8 counts of Bombay Sapphire. stir carefully. Pour out ice and soda from glass. Swirl dry wermouth in glass, then dump out. Add three olives, strain gin into glass.

I do make a killer chocolate raspberry and a great cinnamon vanilla martini as well.

ETA: Oh, and a damn good dirty martini. And we're not just talking "you've been a naughty girl, go to my room" dirty. We're talking 2 cent french hooker in a back alley dirty.

I make mine with pastis. So it's not actually a martini.

Gin, Bombay Saphire. Very little dry vermouth. Just enough to moisten the ice cubes in the shaker. served with olives or a pickled tabasco pepper.
you. get out of my head.

you. get out of my head.
Great minds drink alike.

k...if you want something to drool over, and you aren't a martini purist (IE totally against flavored) try this:

Chocolate raspberry martini, straight up with a twist (by the way, as a heads up, bartenders LOVE people who come up and order a martini exactly how they want it. None of this "I want a martini *look around cluelessly*" bullshit)

fill glass with ice and soda
fill mixing can with ice.
pour in 6-8 counts stoli razz.
add 4-2 counts (depending on how much stoli you used. total should be 10 counts) of Creme de Cacao (dark or light will work, or chocolate liquor...godiva is great).
shake (ALWAYS shake a flavored martini)
dump out glass. take lemon rind twist. rub rim of glass, place on edge. strain razz/cacao.

if shaken properly, a layer of ice should form on the top.

okay, now a cinnamon vanilla martini straight up with a twist.

take above recipe. Replace stoli razz with stoli vanilla. Replace Creme de Cacao with Goldschlagger.

there you have it.


edit: and for the ladies, if you want to look cool for your friends, instead of getting a Cosmo, get an Electric Cosmo.

Standard cosmo is:
6 counts Citron
2 counts Cointreau
2 counts cranberry juice
dash of lime

to make it electric (electric, in terms of drinks, means it is blue), it becomes:
6 counts citron
4 counts blue curacao
dash of lime

tastes basically the same (curacao and cointreau are the same flavor). You can get it with the cranberry juice, but it will end up purple.

Just another mindless thing to talk about.

How do you like yours?

The poll only includes the choice of gin or vodka because that seems to be the most hotly debated part of the martini.

When I did drink, I'd make mine with Gilbey's gin, a finger splash of sweet vermouthe, and 3 olives. Nummy!
WHile I like Martinis, I actually prefer the Negroni, which is Gin, Campari and Vermouth.

Yeah, so there's a problem with your poll. That cocktail that you put vodka in, that's not a martini. It just isn't. It's not a bad drink, and I'm not knocking it at all (in fact I prefer that to a martini - don't like gin), but it's not a martini.

That said, that chocolate-raspberry cocktail looks tasty, Sarkhaan. (But damnit, it ain't a martini, either!)

*Up* :p I live on the south coast :D Or failing that can you recommend any?
I've found that you can find Belgian themed pubs here in London.

The Lowlander is the best I've found so far.

Order a Korenwolf. You won't be sorry.

Yeah, so there's a problem with your poll. That cocktail that you put vodka in, that's not a martini. It just isn't. It's not a bad drink, and I'm not knocking it at all (in fact I prefer that to a martini - don't like gin), but it's not a martini.

That said, that chocolate-raspberry cocktail looks tasty, Sarkhaan. (But damnit, it ain't a martini, either!)
technically, today, a martini is either vodka or gin. If you want to be ultimate purist, then even Gibsons (the ones garnished with cocktail onions) and gimlets (made with lime juice) aren't martinis. Hell, even a dirty martini wouldn't be a martini

the chocolate raspberry tastes great tho. If you want to make it really really good, then lace it with chamboard.

Well, yeah, that's the point. If the drink has a different name when you change the garnish, then how can you call it by the same name if you change the base spirit? How would you react if someone, wanting a manhattan, asked for a bourbon (or, more traditionally, rye) martini?

Don't really drink, but if I do get a Martini...

Stirred, Vodka, Preferably Apple.

Well, yeah, that's the point. If the drink has a different name when you change the garnish, then how can you call it by the same name if you change the base spirit? How would you react if someone, wanting a manhattan, asked for a bourbon (or, more traditionally, rye) martini?
difference comes down to vodka and gin being whites, and whiskeys being dark. Also the vermouth being used and the fact that manhattans tend to be sweet.

Anything can be a Pres or highball, regardless of which alcohol. Martini more refers to serving style and glass than the specific alcohol, same with a pres or highball or sour or collins.

The things with Vodka can be very nice, but they aren't really martinis.

Just another mindless thing to talk about.

How do you like yours?

The poll only includes the choice of gin or vodka because that seems to be the most hotly debated part of the martini.

When I did drink, I'd make mine with Gilbey's gin, a finger splash of sweet vermouthe, and 3 olives. Nummy!

If it is made with Vodka it is not a Martini, it is a Gibson and is served with an onion not an olive. The only way to eat olives is in a Martini.

The things with Vodka can be very nice, but they aren't really martinis.
mar·ti·ni P Pronunciation Key (mär-tn)
n. pl. mar·ti·nis
A cocktail made of gin or vodka and dry vermouth. (linky (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=martini))

haha...sorry, I have to take this on now...this may just be the only thing I have a shot at winning against Cat-Tribe.

Why not just drink refreshing ice cold water then? Saves time, effort, money, and unpleasant after effects.

No olive or onion in ice cold water. :D

If it is made with Vodka it is not a Martini, it is a Gibson and is served with an onion not an olive. The only way to eat olives is in a Martini.
gibson only implies the onion part. you can have a gin gibson, as it refers to garnish, not base alcohol.

gibson only implies the onion part. you can have a gin gibson, as it refers to garnish, not base alcohol.

Damn if your aren't right.

Gib·son Audio pronunciation of "gibson" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gbsn)
n.

A dry martini garnished with a small pickled onion.

I always thought it was the base alcohol and not the garnish. See even someone as old as I can learn something new. :)

Why not just drink refreshing ice cold water then? Saves time, effort, money, and unpleasant after effects.
no stupid, that would make sense

mar·ti·ni P Pronunciation Key (mär-tn)
n. pl. mar·ti·nis
A cocktail made of gin or vodka and dry vermouth. (linky (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=martini))

haha...sorry, I have to take this on now...this may just be the only thing I have a shot at winning against Cat-Tribe.

Odd definition. As you can use sweet vermouth.

But point taken. :D

Damn if your aren't right.

Gib·son Audio pronunciation of "gibson" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gbsn)
n.

A dry martini garnished with a small pickled onion.

I always thought it was the base alcohol and not the garnish. See even someone as old as I can learn something new. :)
haha...did I ever mention that I bartend?;)

Why not just drink refreshing ice cold water then? Saves time, effort, money, and unpleasant after effects.

But misses out on the fun of intoxication.

Odd definition. As you can use sweet vermouth.

But point taken. :D
haha...you mean I won?! That easily? I was half expecting you to whip out a court case or something (hey, don't laugh, there have been court cases about alcohol, such as Bacardi suing over brand rights and such)

the weird thing is, despite the fact that a martini is vermouth and vodka/gin, one of the martini bars I subbed at didn't even have vermouth on bar. If someone actually wanted some, we had to go to the liquor cabinet in back and get some. Such a pain in the ass. But nowhere near as bad as the people who order it with a whisper kiss or swirl of vermouth (although, those people tip damn well because they're just showing off)

haha...did I ever mention that I bartend?;)

So now I know why I never got promoted from barback to bartender. :)

So now I know why I never got promoted from barback to bartender. :)
haha...ugh, I'm glad I never had to barback...I just feel bad for them. Esp if its in something like a club where the well vodka is gone every two minutes and you need more ice every five for all 5 bartenders on duty.

I will say that the certification classes were fun. "today, we're gonna make sours and collins!"

Vodka, Vermouth, and a wee bit of lemon juice. Put it in the bullet-shaped martini shaker, for that shaken-not-stirred style, with ice. Then shake & pour. I personally think gin tastes horrible and resembles the stuff my barbers keep their combs in, but that's just my opinion.

I like Paul Martini*. His constant look of plastic stupidity makes the olympics more interesting.

*Not to be mistaken with Paul Martin.

Gin? Vodka? Yuck, gag me with a spoon. For me its bourbon. Six parts Makers Mark, one part sweet vermouth, one part dry vermouth, two dashes of bitters. Mmmmm

I've never had any alcohol beyond a dixie-cup-full of kvass (which is 0.5 proof), so I can't say I can contribute much to this thread. However, one of my friends has the last name of Martini. And he's a cool guy, so I guess I like my Martinis like him.

Gin? Vodka? Yuck, gag me with a spoon. For me its bourbon. Six parts Makers Mark, one part sweet vermouth, one part dry vermouth, two dashes of bitters. Mmmmm
mmm...makers mark manhattans are great. I don't personally like them perfect, just because I don't really like dry vermouth. Never had a manhattan with bitters tho...I'll have to try that.

For me it has to be vodka because gin makes me an asshole (and I know I'm opening myself up here, so take your shots now :D ). But I'm not really a martini fan. I'm a neat whisky sipper. Mixers just get in the way, and if the whisky is good enough, mixers are an abomination.

For me it has to be vodka because gin makes me an asshole (and I know I'm opening myself up here, so take your shots now :D ). But I'm not really a martini fan. I'm a neat whisky sipper. Mixers just get in the way, and if the whisky is good enough, mixers are an abomination.
what kinda whisky/whiskey? (by the spelling, I'm gonna have to guess scotch?)

what kinda whisky/whiskey? (by the spelling, I'm gonna have to guess scotch?)
I had some 12 year Talisker a couple of night's ago--on someone else's dime. Right now I'm sipping on some single malt Bushmill's whiskey I got for Christmas, and that's some beautiful stuff. I'm not real particular, however, except when it comes to Canadian--never developed a taste for it.

And I was a bartender back when I was an undergrad too.

I had some 12 year Talisker a couple of night's ago--on someone else's dime. Right now I'm sipping on some single malt Bushmill's whiskey I got for Christmas, and that's some beautiful stuff. I'm not real particular, however, except when it comes to Canadian--never developed a taste for it.

And I was a bartender back when I was an undergrad too.
haha...so you were an English major bartender who liked to study the bible in a philosophical sense and likes to drink whiskey...Are you me a few years in the future?

bartending is a great job...good money (if I could actually get hired instead of subbing in...), and fun as all hell.

I really want to try Johnny Walker Blue or green...sadly, I don't think I can pony up the $50 for a single. I'm usually a Johnny Walker Black man myself, when I have the cash to spend on something worth drinking instead of PBR and Jenkins rum.

Never liked Bourbon much personally. I've only had CC as far as the canadians, and jamesons for irish. Being underage in Boston can be a real bitch sometimes...lol

OK... here goes...

Take a frozen glass. Pour about a teaspoon of vermouth in the glass and swish it around. Pour the vermouth out. Pour ice cold gin (not vodka... that is not a martini) over cracked (not crushed) ice, and shake. Strain the gin into the frozen, vermouth coated glass. Garnish with an olive from which you have removed the pimento and instead stuffed with a very good blue cheese.

The blue cheese bit is my sister's boss's idea, but the rest of the recipe is mine. It is actually really nice...

OK... here goes...

Take a frozen glass. Pour about a teaspoon of vermouth in the glass and swish it around. Pour the vermouth out. Pour ice cold gin (not vodka... that is not a martini) over cracked (not crushed) ice, and shake. Strain the gin into the frozen, vermouth coated glass. Garnish with an olive from which you have removed the pimento and instead stuffed with a very good blue cheese.

The blue cheese bit is my sister's boss's idea, but the rest of the recipe is mine. It is actually really nice...
I refer you back to post 27 for the whole gin/vodka thing...martinis can use either

that does sound good...never thought to use bleu cheese in the olives. I'll have to try that

because it fits: today is the 125th anniversary of kansas becomming the first state in the union with an alcohol prohibition.

I prefer gin martinis. IT's the original liquor of the cocktail for a reason. Gin is basically vodka (yes, they are both made from the same grain) but flavored with juniper. The only reason the "vodka martini" has any popularity at all is due to Ian Flemming's famous Brittish spy character in his fantastical novels.

I had a Martini once. My buddy who owns a bar said that I just HAD to try one. Once I was done rinsing the yuck out of my mouth, I got myself a cup of crushed, compacted ice, and filled it with Yukon Jack, and I was back in business, and I didn't feel like I has a christmas tree down my throat.

Martinis are yuck to the 5th power. But I have to say a true Martini would never be caught dead containing Vodka. It's a Gin drink.

mmm...makers mark manhattans are great. I don't personally like them perfect, just because I don't really like dry vermouth. Never had a manhattan with bitters tho...I'll have to try that.

I put bitters in everything, but what really turned me onto them in the first places was when my grandfather mixed up an perfect manhattan for me with bitters in it. The bitters really bring the flavors of the bourbon and vermouth together and give the whole drink a wonderful smell.

I put bitters in everything, but what really turned me onto them in the first places was when my grandfather mixed up an perfect manhattan for me with bitters in it. The bitters really bring the flavors of the bourbon and vermouth together and give the whole drink a wonderful smell.
I like Vodka+Bitters when I don't have Gin & Dry Vermouth.

I put bitters in everything, but what really turned me onto them in the first places was when my grandfather mixed up an perfect manhattan for me with bitters in it. The bitters really bring the flavors of the bourbon and vermouth together and give the whole drink a wonderful smell.
Only thing I ever used bitters for was to get rid of the hiccups. Worked like a charm though.

But which brand of vermouth? I have always used Noilly Prat - anybody have any other recommendations?

I like mine with bourbon. Lot's of bourbon. Ice, too.

Well if the chain restaurants can market Appletinis and other fruit juice with a -tini glass, then why can't I have a bourbon-tini. In a tumbler. With lots of ice. Shaken, stirred, or not.

I don't drink because I'm too young, and don't plan on drinking in the future. Except non-alcholic drinks.

I like mine with bourbon. Lot's of bourbon. Ice, too.

Well if the chain restaurants can market Appletinis and other fruit juice with a -tini glass, then why can't I have a bourbon-tini. In a tumbler. With lots of ice. Shaken, stirred, or not.
That's my kind of martini.

Vodka infused with Catnip and a splash of Mouse Blood.

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/animal/002.gif

I like mine with bourbon. Lot's of bourbon. Ice, too.

Well if the chain restaurants can market Appletinis and other fruit juice with a -tini glass, then why can't I have a bourbon-tini. In a tumbler. With lots of ice. Shaken, stirred, or not.
haha...appletinis and the other fruit flavored ones have no juice in them. They all use liquors (Appletini is vidka and apple puckers).

what you want is a bourbon manhattan on the rocks.

haha...appletinis and the other fruit flavored ones have no juice in them. They all use liquors (Appletini is vidka and apple puckers).

what you want is a bourbon manhattan on the rocks.
Or, what we in Chicagoland call a "Brown Mumbler", which is a Manhattan in a Rocks glass with Burbon replacing the Ice by volume... :eek:

http://images.radcity.net/5149/828515.jpg

haha...appletinis and the other fruit flavored ones have no juice in them. They all use liquors (Appletini is vidka and apple puckers).

what you want is a bourbon manhattan on the rocks.
Nah, what I want is a big glass of bourbon. The manhattan stuff just poisions the taste. Kinda like putting cream in coffee. You either like the taste, or you don't.

Can't wait until this job is over. I'm staying at an Embassy Suite near SFO. The best feature of that chain is the happy hour from 4 'til 7 with free drinks. Then, at 7, I take my glass of bourbon to the bar and order a hamburger.

*Martini, what where???* I love Martini, any way, any time (and I'm not just talking about the drink... :D )

The drink: preferably with gin

Nah, what I want is a big glass of bourbon. The manhattan stuff just poisions the taste. Kinda like putting cream in coffee. You either like the taste, or you don't.

Can't wait until this job is over. I'm staying at an Embassy Suite near SFO. The best feature of that chain is the happy hour from 4 'til 7 with free drinks. Then, at 7, I take my glass of bourbon to the bar and order a hamburger.
cream in coffee is a sin. Unless it is Irish cream, and you're drinking it after dinner on St. Patricks Day.

cream in coffee is a sin. Unless it is Irish cream, and you're drinking it after dinner on St. Patricks Day.

there's nothing wrong with cream in coffee, not that i drink it...

cream in coffee is a sin. Unless it is Irish cream, and you're drinking it after dinner on St. Patricks Day.

Unless you are drinking Colombian coffee, which NEEDS something to mask the taste...

Unless you are drinking Colombian coffee, which NEEDS something to mask the taste...
Unlike Coloumbian Catnip....

Te-keety -- Ole'!

Pack a clean glass quart jar with fresh Catnip. (Harvest just before it blooms for greatest strength.) Pour in silver tequila to cover all of the herb, cap, label, and date. Put away in a cupboard for 10 days to two weeks, then strain into a clean jar for decanting back into the Tequila bottle..

Garnish with little meeses... I don need no steenking worm... :eek:

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/animal/002.gif slurp!

cream in coffee is a sin. Unless it is Irish cream, and you're drinking it after dinner on St. Patricks Day.
Actually, there's nothing wrong with a little Irish whiskey in the coffee.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with a little Irish whiskey in the coffee.
Not enough Irish Whiskey in my Irish Cream...

Wouldn't think to dilute either with coffee *shudder*.

Bombay Martini, on the rocks.