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Anyone who is old enough to remember the cold war can back me up on this one. I am not pointing out some grand conspiracy but just how the media influenced my perception of Soviets. Anyone remember what the typical Soviet woman looked like? All I remember seeing was old ladies and ugly young ones with babushkas on their heads. I was blinded to the smoking hotness that is a Russian (Ukrainian, etc..) woman. This also applied to the Soviet landscapes – everything looked bland dreary in pictures – Siberia-like with lines for bread and toilet paper. I grew up in Newark, NJ and had no contact with anyone from that region so I only knew what the media fed me.

1989 – The Cold War is over and I graduate high school.

1992 – I turn 21 and I am old enough to go to strip clubs. Other than Brazillians (God bless Brazil), they are mainly filled with lovelies from behind the Iron Curtain. Apparently, the beautiful Soviet women were put away in political prisons or something like that. (I am not insinuating all are strippers - just my first encounter)

Am I the only one who thought this? (I know I am not because my friends thought the same thing) What misconceptions are being fed to me now? Do you have any similar examples of how a media bias affected your perceptions?

I was at dinner a few weeks ago with someone who said that the 1980 olympics was cancelled.

After I laughed, and she thought about it, she realized of course. But we did talk about how the perception of a lot americans is that it never 'really' happened.

Any US hockey fan remembers the 1980 Olympics.

Apparently, the beautiful Soviet women were put away in political prisons or something like that.


I quess your knowledge hasn't improved that much :D

I was at dinner a few weeks ago with someone who said that the 1980 olympics was cancelled.

After I laughed, and she thought about it, she realized of course. But we did talk about how the perception of a lot americans is that it never 'really' happened.
Oh, how sad. So they never knew Miska. I loved that bear back then (I've been told, too young to remember)

Stay out of the strip clubs you jerk, your giving your parents hard erned cash to scumbag people.

Stay in School and get an eduaction and try TO BETTER THIS WORLD.

Stupid perv.

I quess your knowledge hasn't improved that much :D

I never saw them on the long bread and toilet paper lines we used to see in the papers. I can only hypothesize what happened to them. :)

One only needs to go to the nightclubs in Macau to see that the stereotype of butt-ugly Russian women built like tractors is a load of bull. Ukranian and Russian chicks are ultra-hot.
Great in bed too, I might add.

Stay out of the strip clubs you jerk, your giving your parents hard erned cash to scumbag people.

Stay in School and get an eduaction and try TO BETTER THIS WORLD.

Stupid perv.
Strangest diatribe award of the day goes to...
Golddirk!

Let me guess, you've been barred from the local strip clubs?

Stay out of the strip clubs you jerk, your giving your parents hard erned cash to scumbag people.

Stay in School and get an eduaction and try TO BETTER THIS WORLD.

Stupid perv.

"eduaction"? "erned"? I think we know who needs the education. I actually visit a strip club maybe once a year and that is when I am dragged there by friends or a "business" meeting. I love my wife and I have better things to do with my money and beer doesn't taste that good when it is $6 (OK it still does). I am a perv though - you got me there.

Any US hockey fan remembers the 1980 Olympics.

Who won the 100m then?

it was partly true, but then if you read thrillers and watched James bond films then the soviets made all the good looking ones work for the KGB in honey traps but then discovered that they kept falling for the rugged, sauve and sophistaced western spies and then defecting, so they all got sent to siberia...

I never saw them on the long bread and toilet paper lines we used to see in the papers. I can only hypothesize what happened to them. :)
Hey, beautiful women don't need to wait in lines. :)

Jorg Woithe - I love google

Well, I got a few russian women. Rather ugly if you ask me.

There a strange breed alright.Born beautiful but things tend to go down hill from around 35+.Russia is a difficult country to live in.

Who won the 100m then?



I assume, since we're discussing Winter Olympics, that you mean 100m speed-skating. If so, the answer is Eric Heiden. He won all men's speed-skating events at Lake Placid.

The reason that there are all the young women from the former soviet states in the strip clubs and working as prostitutes is that they are told by people bck home (Mafia types and other assorted sweetie pies) that they can get them a good job working in the west, so these poor girls pay up a fee to get themselves a visa/work permit or whatever, then when they get to the country in question, it turns out the wonderful job is getting your kit of for the edification of men who cant get their thrills at home, they get stuck in a cycle of misery and they are trapped, often threatened and unable to escape...
This is not always the case, many attractive young women think its a good way to get some easy quick money. But please think twice before frequenting clubs as you may be financing the virtual slavery of innocent young women.

I assume, since we're discussing Winter Olympics, that you mean 100m speed-skating. If so, the answer is Eric Heiden. Won all men's speed-skating events at Lake Placid.

No I am discussing the summer olympics, in moscow, which sort of prooves my point.

A Russian woman:
http://www.girls4dating.com/images/photo_russian_girl.jpg
Nothing more to say.

The reason that there are all the young women from the former soviet states in the strip clubs and working as prostitutes is that they are told by people bck home (Mafia types and other assorted sweetie pies) that they can get them a good job working in the west, so these poor girls pay up a fee to get themselves a visa/work permit or whatever, then when they get to the country in question, it turns out the wonderful job is getting your kit of for the edification of men who cant get their thrills at home, they get stuck in a cycle of misery and they are trapped, often threatened and unable to escape...
This is not always the case, many attractive young women think its a good way to get some easy quick money. But please think twice before frequenting clubs as you may be financing the virtual slavery of innocent young women.

Good point. This doesn't only apply to strippers. When Slava Fetisov (a defensive god) and Kasatonov came to play hockey for the NJ Devils. They were not allowed to fraternize with the other players. They were always escorted around by shady Russian Mafia-looking types (rumor has it they were).

A Russian woman:
http://www.girls4dating.com/images/photo_russian_girl.jpg
Nothing more to say.
That's not true! You could've added a name or a website from which I could get more pictures of her.

A Russian woman:
http://www.girls4dating.com/images/photo_russian_girl.jpg
Nothing more to say.

We can close the thread now.

No I am discussing the summer olympics, in moscow, which sort of prooves my point.



OK, smartass. The answers: 100m track: men's -- Allan wells, Great Britain; women's -- Lyudmila Kondratyeva, USSR

100m freestyle swimming: men's -- Jorg Woithe, East Germany; women's --Barbara Krause, East Germany

100m backstroke: men's -- Bengt Baron, Sweden; women's -- Rica Reinisch, East Germany

100m breaststroke: men's -- Duncan Goodhew, Great Britain; women's -- Ute Geweniger, East Germany

100m butterfly: men's -- Par Arvidsson, Sweden; women's -- Caren Metschuck, East Germany

The post you were responding to was talking about the Winter Olympics, as you well knew. I remember 1980 very well (born in 1967). Most Americans do not know medal winners from Moscow because the American media did not cover them. How many russians could tell you who won at Los Angeles in 1984? And your brief post did not, so far as I could tell, contain a point. And in reguards to your earlier post that we think the Moscow Olympics "never really happened", utterly ridiculous. Most Americans were very angry that we boycotted. How old was this girl you talked to? Chances are she wasn't old enough to remember 1980. I know many 18-21 year olds who had know idea what happened at Munich in '72 until the movie came out.

geeez i dont remember who won the 100M a year and a half ago. only sports nerds remember who won what in '80 (or '76 or '88). in fact i didnt off the top of my head remember where the last summer olympics were HELD.

russian women used to be "ugly" because the soviet union didnt allow western fashion into the country. they didnt promote women for their beauty. they discouraged the import and usage of makeup. so women of all ages had to wear the frumpy crap manufactured by the USSR and their friends. there were just as many beautiful soviet women, they werent promoted and packaged for our consumption as they are now.

I can't even tell you who won this morning.