NationStates Jolt Archive

What is the worst thing in the UK?
Newlabour?
Devolution?
Bureacracy?
Or something else (Please specify what)

All of the political parties. Either that or chavs.

Why can't we choose all the options... they're all as bad as each other...

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chavs
people who think what we have is so awful
euroskeptics
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tories
chavs
people who think what we have is so awful
euroskeptics
nationalists
the daily mail

Labour
People who have an irrational fear of chavs
Europhiles
Nationalists (especially those from the celtic periphery)
The Daily Mirror

The member of parliament for Bethnal Green - George Galloway

Oh yeah, and Piers Morgan to.

Me. nuf said. :(

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I disagree. Tories and Nationalists rock!

Whiners.

Parliamentary Sovereignty.

92 hereditory peers in the Lords.

Unelected ministers ruling NI by decree without a mandate or any accountability.

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92 hereditory peers in the Lords.
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I heartily agree: all 700 should have the ability to exercise their birthright.

I heartily agree: all 700 should have the ability to exercise their birthright.
OK, maybe I should change that to "92 too many hereditary peers in the Lords."

OK, maybe I should change that to "92 too many hereditary peers in the Lords."

What a predictable trap, and you still fell into it...

OK, maybe I should change that to "92 too many hereditary peers in the Lords."

I would rather have 92 hereditary peers in the House of Lords (the 92 most skilled, experienced and hardworking of the original 706) and leave political allegiance to chance than a house of lords utterly dominated by Prime ministerial patronage and the will of the central executive

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That is exactly what I was going to say!

What a predictable trap, and you still fell into it...
?

I would rather have 92 hereditary peers in the House of Lords (the 92 most skilled, experienced and hardworking of the original 706) and leave political allegiance to chance than a house of lords utterly dominated by Prime ministerial patronage and the will of the central executive
Never heard of cross benchers?

Anyhow, the way it is appointed dictates that it will (after a period) never accurately reflect the Commons. People are appointed by life, and their replacements are appointed by the government of the day. So one Labour Lord could be replaced by a Conservative Lord, or a Lib Dem Lord, or a Crossbencher...so eventually it will be come a jumbled mix of the various parties represented in the Commons.

Our government (any party, doesn't matter, though NL are of course the worst -- yet they keep getting re-elected), our culture(s) and the general attitudes, our crime rate, the weather, the roads...

I'll tell you what, how about I just save time and create a list of good things?

I was going to say the weather, then I remembered the politics. :(

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!1111oneone

I used to be able to call a paki a paki, and now those bloody brussels bureucrats will arrest me if I do!

[For the slow - this is not serious]

All the bloody politicians.. the lies.. the beauracracy.. the general crap.. The Sun.. people who dislike Jeremy Clarkson..

people who dislike Jeremy Clarkson..

How can you possibly like that guy? He'd advocate eating babies if he thought it would damage the enviroment in some way.

21 responses and no one made a jab at the United States? :rolleyes:

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THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT

Senseless pandering to violent activists AND
Legislating away the right to defend yourself.

21 responses and no one made a jab at the United States? :rolleyes:

Perhaps if the Yanks could keep themselves from slipping their name into every topic on the face of the internet, they wouldn't get quite so much attention, hmm? It's like you crave it or something.

Perhaps if the Yanks could keep themselves from slipping their name into every topic on the face of the internet, they wouldn't get quite so much attention, hmm? It's like you crave it or something.

Right and you would never post in a thread about the United States. Sure.

Right and you would never post in a thread about the United States. Sure.

Not asking why people in the United States thread aren't talking about the UK, that'd just be stupid.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!1111oneone

I used to be able to call a paki a paki, and now those bloody brussels bureucrats will arrest me if I do!

[For the slow - this is not serious]

Either way it's still true. Interesting fact. Politically correct is not the politically correct term for politically correct. The politically correct term for politically correct is culturally sensitive

I hate Europe

Right and you would never post in a thread about the United States. Sure.

Please shut the hell up about the US. Why on earth did you have to have a little "WE'RE SO DISLIKED! WAHHH!" whinge in a thread on the UK?

Seriously, go post on a relevant topic if you think people pick on the US on these forums - don't just elevate the percieved problem.

Either way it's still true. Interesting fact. Politically correct is not the politically correct term for politically correct. The politically correct term for politically correct is culturally sensitive



You've said the same thing on the other thread - it wasn't funny then, it isn't funny now. You lost all credibility when you put BNP in the top three British political parties.

Chavs, definitely

Why on earth did you have to have a little "WE'RE SO DISLIKED! WAHHH!" whinge in a thread on the UK?

Especially when the US had not even been mentioned.

Anyway I voted other.


People who use the word "chav" and think it is some sort of modern thing.
James Blunt.
The Tabloid Press
The "Michel Shields is innocent" graffitti I see everywhere.
The plan to introduce ID cards.
London.

All of the political parties. Either that or chavs.


I hope to plan a trip this year to the UK and I cant WAIT to see a chav!

I hope to plan a trip this year to the UK and I cant WAIT to see a chav!
Yeah you hear so much about them online it would kinda be a letdown to go and NOT see one...

I can sum it up: Fight prejudice, Fight the Ban.

Right there, the reason for that campaign, is everything that is wrong with Bliar's government.

Other than that it's really nice, especially in the summer. Well the country bit anyway.

Yeah you hear so much about them online it would kinda be a letdown to go and NOT see one...

lol....
Ive heard Tribes (of Longton, not Cat) go on about them for months and months so I just have to see one up close. I wonder what the equivalent is over here in the US?

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Change Tories with Labour, change Nationalists with rampant PC, and I agree.

lol....
Ive heard Tribes (of Longton, not Cat) go on about them for months and months so I just have to see one up close. I wonder what the equivalent is over here in the US?
Hmm, not sure. We have bogans here in Aus I suppose. Thy run around in tracksuits with their missing teeth, mullets and twenty children. <.<

You've said the same thing on the other thread - it wasn't funny then, it isn't funny now. You lost all credibility when you put BNP in the top three British political parties.
Isn't it un-PC to dislike a person based on their political beliefs? Or does this only apply when there political beliefs are within the confines of PC?

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I would like to say that without the Tories th uk would be a much less powerful country. The tories taught the rest of the world to respect us e.g during the thatcher years, Argentine thought that they could take over a brittish island and the Brittish would allow it but Thatcher didn't she declared war and told the Argentines tht we would send a small naval task force and she sent half the navy. That's what the tories are tough unlike the foolish lefties!!

Isn't it un-PC to dislike a person based on their political beliefs? Or does this only apply when there political beliefs are within the confines of PC?

No way, that would require sense, something political correctness lacks.

I hate the blame culture that seems to be in favour at the moment. No one wants to take responsibilty for what they have done.

Apathy, and the way some people just give in, not wanting to change their life for the better. I know it's easier said than done but there is more to life than hanging around street corners.

I would like to say that without the Tories th uk would be a much less powerful country. The tories taught the rest of the world to respect us e.g during the thatcher years, Argentine thought that they could take over a brittish island and the Brittish would allow it but Thatcher didn't she declared war and told the Argentines tht we would send a small naval task force and she sent half the navy. That's what the tories are tough unlike the foolish lefties!!

Surely Iraq and Afganistan are far bigger fish then a couple of rocks with sheep on near Antarctica?

Oh aye, and getting the olympics was shite too. I hated that.

And when is the North East going to get its share of the CAP and defence contracts? Eh? Answer me that New Labour.

I swear, that wanker bliar seems to think he's representing the french or something.

Isn't it un-PC to dislike a person based on their political beliefs? Or does this only apply when there political beliefs are within the confines of PC?

I wouldn't know. I've never being effected by this so called 'PC' thing. Most of it seems to be a media myth to me - people still say racist crap and get away with it, so it's not as if it's restricting freedom of speech.

I don't go out of my way to offend people because I generally don't want others to be offended when it doesn't benefit me. If I say something and it happens to offend someone else - then screw them.

If you really want to, by all means go around calling people pakis and niggers and whatever you like. However, you will not find yourself very popular because most of society agrees with me that generally going out of your way to offend people is a bad idea.

If you really want to, by all means go around calling people pakis and niggers and whatever you like. However, you will not find yourself very popular because most of society agrees with me that generally going out of your way to offend people is a bad idea.
Oh I agree. So long as the rules of engagement apply to everybody. Getting called a racist because you criticise say, a Muslim, for being sexist when they indeed are, is one of those absurd notions that PC has given birth to.

Oh I agree. So long as the rules of engagement apply to everybody. Getting called a racist because you criticise say, a Muslim, for being sexist when they indeed are, is one of those absurd notions that PC has given birth to.

If a muslim is a sexist he's a sexist. If he's not a sexist, or you have no knowledge of his views on gender equality, but you call him one anyway on the basis that he is a follower of Islam, then you are not racist, but you are islamaphobic who doesn't quite understand the religion.

As I recall, whilst many Islamic countries are highly sexist in their practices (and use religious reasons as an excuse, kinda like how Christianity used to be used to justify sexism) and first or even second generation immigrants from these countries may retain sexist views, there's nothing inherant about Islam that makes it any more sexist than christianity as a religion.

If a muslim is a sexist he's a sexist. If he's not a sexist, or you have no knowledge of his views on gender equality, but you call him one anyway on the basis that he is a follower of Islam, then you are not racist, but you are islamaphobic who doesn't quite understand the religion.

As I recall, whilst many Islamic countries are highly sexist in their practices (and use religious reasons as an excuse, kinda like how Christianity used to be used to justify sexism) and first or even second generation immigrants from these countries may retain sexist views, there's nothing inherant about Islam that makes it any more sexist than christianity as a religion.
Exactly, which is why I said the precondition would be that the said person is in fact sexist. Otherwise it would be unjustifiable prejudice.

The demise of good television(Blackadder, Mr Bean etc)
NHS spending money on art instead of helping people not die
Politicians who are the same as each other

I would rather have 92 hereditary peers in the House of Lords (the 92 most skilled, experienced and hardworking of the original 706) and leave political allegiance to chance than a house of lords utterly dominated by Prime ministerial patronage and the will of the central executive

Hear hear!

The lords actually do get things right. Mainly because they dont have to worryh about being re-elected.

Mainly I dislike the way all three main parties are having a big fight over the "centre ground" to try and get cheap votes. I dislike the govenrment fucking about with the NHS and the Police setting targets instead of letting people get on with their jobs.

Unelected ministers ruling NI by decree without a mandate or any accountability.

What he said.

The tories taught the rest of the world to respect us e.g during the thatcher years, Argentine thought that they could take over a brittish island and the Brittish would allow it but Thatcher didn't she declared war and told the Argentines tht we would send a small naval task force and she sent half the navy. That's what the tories are tough unlike the foolish lefties!!

Nonsense and balderdash. The Falklands War involved no declarations of war. Am I to assume that the whole thing happened before you were born?

Some of us foolish lefties actually arm ourselves with the facts so as not to appear like idiots.

I would have to go with Battenburg Cake, what is it with the disgusting yellow and pink colour scheme. Or Yorkshire.

The British inability to maintain good programming today because they have to compete in the us markets, UGH! The new Rocker Dr. Who, All those Resurvoir dog "English" gangata movies UGH.
Common guys get back on the ball with THE WRITING not the show off look mum im directing shite.


Rich

Nonsense and balderdash. The Falklands War involved no declarations of war. Am I to assume that the whole thing happened before you were born?

Some of us foolish lefties actually arm ourselves with the facts so as not to appear like idiots.

Well, in my opinion (and yes it DID happen before my birth) Someone invading thesovereign soil of someone else and the someone else sending a battlegroup to shoot up the first someone sounds very much like two declerations of war. One by each side.

Might not be formal or official. But it works.

Nearly didnt though.

chavs
spam (the 'food' that is)
trainspotters
obsessive anorak-wearing perverts who know every Monty python skit off by heart and feel the need to tell everyone them, whenever there's a crowd.

parlaimentary system (we know semi-presidential systems work better.)
EU supporters (national soveignty is not evil, corrupting, or pointless, so stop attacking it, and supporting people who do)
anti-nationalists (same as above)
The london underground. (its too hot there, and they should stop saying "mind the gap".)
the crrent prime minister (monitor all car journeies? thats offically insane)

euroskeptics

I disagree. I think EU supporters are waaay more annoying.

Its the spread of the beurocracy that is the single wrost thing about Britian today, or rahter its transformation into what i now called "management".

Hence we are now stuck over all sense of risk avoidance and our blame culture that decrees that everythign must be banned. While in some cases the bans may make perfect sense (ie smoking) others simply do not (the new crime bill that will destroy the sports of airsoft and paintball within the UK all because the government don't want the police to face the risk of shooting someone brandishing a replica firearm).
I guess that soudns odd that i'm anti smoking yet pro gun... maybe the govenrment can repalce any profit lost by a total 100% smoking ban by placing duty on ammo (hey i would willingly pay an extra pound or two for a bottle of 1000 6mm BBs)

chavs
whats that????????????????????

Warm Beer in the pubs. Chavs = http://chavscum.co.uk/

Well, in my opinion (and yes it DID happen before my birth) Someone invading thesovereign soil of someone else and the someone else sending a battlegroup to shoot up the first someone sounds very much like two declerations of war. One by each side.

Might not be formal or official. But it works.

Nearly didnt though.

Nope: the thing you are missing is that an actual state of war did not exist between the two nations - the Falklands 'War' is more properly termed the Falklands Conflict.

Anyhow: to return to the matter at hand - how is the fact that that vile bitch Thatcher sent the battle group to the South Atlantic in any way a point against leftists?

Anyhow: to return to the matter at hand - how is the fact that that vile bitch Thatcher sent the battle group to the South Atlantic in any way a point against leftists?

I think in his mind lefties are too scared to go war.

I think in his mind lefties are too scared to go war.

War is kewl.

:headbang: Liberal democrats who voted against individual liberty on wednesday and support the transition of power to the unelected EU (tis false advertising).
:headbang: The EU and all it entails (eg CAP, cost, protectionism, illiberal regulations)
:headbang: Rhyl
:headbang: Eastenders
:headbang: pro EU Scottish nationalists
:headbang: BBC news
:headbang: people who believe in a "right to not be offended"
:headbang: people who slag off Tesco but shop there
:headbang: tories (everyone has some greivance)
:headbang: drugs laws

and obviously the labour party (although Blair is kinda witty)

Warm Beer in the pubs.
I wish! The extent to which Real Ale brewing's gone downhill in this country is disgusting. Also, it's not "warm", it's about 8-10 degrees C, if i'm not mistaken. Also, it doesn't bear comparison at those temperatures to American "beer" (read: piss-weak lager), which is supposed to be served nigh-on frozen so it freezes your taste-buds and you don't actually taste anything.
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It's not as if we're forcing you to drink it, anyway.:p

Levels of unfounded Euroscepticism in this country.
Levels of EU busybody-ish regulation in this country. (I'm in favour of the European project as an ideal and increased integration, but it needs to be reformed in practice.)
Ever-accelerating growth of the underclass.
Terrible lack of choice in terms of leaders (vis-a-vis the level to which both parties are trying to be extremely centrist)
Huge levels of deception by our elected leaders.
etc etc...

The levels of increasing illiberalism across the supposed "left" of the political spectrum.

This will be fun.....;)

New Labour
Old Labour
Liberal Democrats
Respect (George Galloway et al.)
BNP (giving the right a thoroughly deplorable name)
David Cameron (full judgement reserved until he announces his legislative policy in 2009)
Chav culture
Multiculturalism
NHS
High taxation
Extensive welfare system
Roman Abramovich/ Chelsea/ Jose Mourinho
Political Correctness
Derision for Europe
Chav music /R n'B/ Rap et al.

You mean we have to choose? I'd just write "everything" and be done with it. ;)

There's too much stuff to even make an effort of compiling, though Chavs, The BNP, fast food chains such as Mcdonalds and the weather in winter are first to mind. Oh, and the way we have to catagorize everything, that pisses me off too.