NationStates Jolt Archive

Life in Iraq continues to improve day after day. An Interior Ministry death squad challenged at a checkpoint, explained that they were on their way to carry out an execution, but it was OK, because the man was a Sunni. :rolleyes:

This really sums up what a mess the place is, and how deluded the US and UK authorities are, if they really believe that they are improving the situation. If the death squads are so confident, and have so much support at all levels of society, that they can roam and do their business without bothering with false pretences, that says louder than anything else, that the place is fucked beyond repair.

I mean, how soon will it be before foreign terrorists can expect to walk through an Iraqi checkpoint by flashing some ID and explaining that they are on their way to fight the infidels? Even in the quagmire that is Chechnya, the separatists have to forge papers. :rolleyes:



The 22 interior ministry traffic policemen, dressed in police commando uniforms, were arrested in late January at an Iraqi army checkpoint in northern Baghdad and asked what they were doing.

They told soldiers they were taking a Sunni man away to be shot dead.

"The amazing thing is... they tell you exactly what they're going to do," Gen Peterson said.

More at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4719252.stm

The US and UK really have reached the nadir of dumbassery.

Sunnis have long accused Iraqi forces of operating death squads - but the claims have never been substantiated.
untill now, there were no real leads as to who, what, where...

Iraqi insurgents have also often used a similar tactic against Iraqis working with international forces or the Iraqi government. and this didn't help the investigation into the death squads.

but now that we have a couple of em...

A spokesman for the country's main Sunni Arab party, the Iraqi Islamic Party, backed the launch of the investigation.

Now perhaps this will help bring Iraq Together.


Remember, these tactics were the norm before the fall of Saddam. so it might be reasonable to those participating, that a Democratic Iraqi Death Squad might also be a norm for this government as well. hope the people learn it's not.

uh... um... er... right... hmm.... well... to be fair... but... uh... I... you see... well... I honnestly don't know what to say. That must have been so bizare for the check point guards. Well at least I did my part to try and stop the war, and politise my school. It was nice watching the head master stutter and try to defend students taking an interest in politics, but at the same time condem them for skipping off school to attend the demo.

I wouldn't say Iraq was beyond repair. I mean Northern Ireland has come back from the brink... despite the British governments best attempts.

Remember, these tactics were the norm before the fall of Saddam. so it might be reasonable to those participating, that a Democratic Iraqi Death Squad might also be a norm for this government as well. hope the people learn it's not.
Haha, brings to mind slapstic comedies. "No no no! Not like that! That's not what I meant!" *Sound of fragile objects breaking* :headbang:

I wouldn't say Iraq was beyond repair. I mean Northern Ireland has come back from the brink... despite the British governments best attempts.

The problem is that in Northern Ireland half of the population wanted the British to stay and in Iraq everybody wants the US and UK to leave.

Haha, brings to mind slapstic comedies. "No no no! Not like that! That's not what I meant!" *Sound of fragile objects breaking* :headbang:
Funny when you think about it...

but can you imagine some newly appointed official?

Let's see... Schools being fixed up... most of the country has power... hmmm... water is still out for alot of places...

the police force as well as military are growing...

hey we forgot to form a death squad... Saddam had em, and they were effective in keeping peace and order... why can't we have some? :rolleyes:

Last week, I built a nuclear missile out of tooth picks so that I could go fishing in the Jerome Park Reservoir (I needed to missile to break through the 100 foot deep ice), but when I got-
*reads title*
Ahh, you're no fun.
*slumps out of the thread in shame*

This really sums up what a mess the place is, and how deluded the US and UK authorities are,
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The US and UK really have reached the nadir of dumbassery.

While I agree with your overview of the situation, I think you're forgetting about the other countries in the coalition of the willing. How about the dumbassery of Australia, Italy, Japan, Turkey etc...

The problem is that in Northern Ireland half of the population wanted the British to stay and in Iraq everybody wants the US and UK to leave.Not orignally. I've heard many stories of how waving, smiling Iraqis turned agressive and hostile. Probably due to policies such as torturing suspects, trying to make some money out of Iraq with the contracting and that oh so wonderful phrase 'collateral damage'.

From what I've seen torture only ever seems to build the determination of tortured against the torturer, and strengthen the tortured's cause. Such Sayed Kotb and the Muslim Brotherhood, Nelson Mandela (I mean extended solitary confinement here) and the African National Congress, and Abu Gharib seems to have done the same.

While I agree with your overview of the situation, I think you're forgetting about the other countries in the coalition of the willing. How about the dumbassery of Australia, Italy, Japan, Turkey etc...

You forgot Poland!

But, on a serious note, I fail to see how the imprisonment of a death squad, now matter how stupid it's members, can signal some form of failure?

But, on a serious note, I fail to see how the imprisonment of a death squad, now matter how stupid it's members, can signal some form of failure?
Because their actions show that they and their colleagues (and counterparts) got through many times before. The absurdity of the situation highlights the failure.

this convinces me, that it would be a good idea to close down abu ghraib with its evil sadistic wardens and transfer responsibility for the prisoners to the iraqis.
they will put them against the wall, that would stop the press whining and we wouldnt have problems with rleased prisoners going back to helping the terrorists.

Last week, I built a nuclear missile out of tooth picks so that I could go fishing in the Jerome Park Reservoir (I needed to missile to break through the 100 foot deep ice), but when I got-
*reads title*
Ahh, you're no fun.
*slumps out of the thread in shame*
You're still lying--you've never been ashamed in your life and you know it.

While I agree with your overview of the situation, I think you're forgetting about the other countries in the coalition of the willing. How about the dumbassery of Australia, Italy, Japan, Turkey etc...
*ahem* Coalition of the Stupid. :p

You're still lying--you've never been ashamed in your life and you know it.
GODDAMMIT! Can't a man get away with anything around here? All I want is to be love-
*rereads title*
GODDAMMIT AGAIN!

GODDAMMIT! Can't a man get away with anything around here? All I want is to be love-
*rereads title*
GODDAMMIT AGAIN!
Don't worry... we all misread things and then make total prats of ourselves; everyone is entitled to be stupid.

So some of Negroponte's terrorist gangs have gotten out of hand. Hardly surprising.

*ahem* Coalition of the Stupid. :p

I assume you are referring to the nations that decided not to support Operation Iraqi Freedom?