NationStates Jolt Archive


Do You Like Math?

Dubya 1000
16-02-2006, 05:07
I may be a nerd or something, but math for me is really fun, and it's the only thing, besides chemistry that makes any sense. Just wondering what the rest of you think.
Gaizen
16-02-2006, 05:11
No.
Saint Curie
16-02-2006, 05:14
Although I have no gift for math, I'm enjoying it. This summer I plan on taking multi-variable calc and linear algebra.
M3rcenaries
16-02-2006, 05:15
I personally do not enjoy math.
Hobbesianland
16-02-2006, 05:16
I love math. I like doing math in my head, and math is fun.
Achtung 45
16-02-2006, 05:19
I'm not too bad at it, but I hate it with a passion.
UnitedStorm3
16-02-2006, 05:19
I liked math before geometry...
StupidDumbDumbidiots
16-02-2006, 05:20
Math is evil and needs to burn in hell forever.
Korrithor
16-02-2006, 05:22
Math needs to die. This heinous subject is bringing down my GPA at least an entire point.
The name that was used
16-02-2006, 05:22
math? BORING!!!!!!
Avertide
16-02-2006, 05:22
No. I hate the AMC. I took it today. X.X
Dubya 1000
16-02-2006, 05:22
Math is evil and needs to burn in hell forever.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, :sniper:
OntheRIGHTside
16-02-2006, 05:27
Math is good, unless it's too easy.



I'M LOOKING AT YOU, GEOMETRY!!! YOU BORING EASY SUCKY SECTION OF MATH!!! I SPIT ON YOU AND YOUR MINDLESS WORD PROBLEMS AND DIAGRAMS!! YOU SUCK!!!


A lot of other mathses are fine though.
Myrmidonisia
16-02-2006, 05:32
The reason that math is so great is that it is an application of logic, where you can instantly tell if you are right or wrong.
Shotagon
16-02-2006, 05:36
I like math, especially geometry...
Antikythera
16-02-2006, 05:36
i sort of like math but iam terrible at it:(
Gargantua City State
16-02-2006, 05:44
Highschool math: No problem. 90%+ in "enriched" math, which was somehow above "advanced" math...
University math: Blarrg. Did okay first year engineering calculus. Second year, not so great (Mind you, we had THREE prof's for the course, one of which had a stroke, and two of which were asian and hardly spoke English).
And now psychology stats... which isn't as fun as I thought it might be.
Saint Curie
16-02-2006, 06:14
. Second year, not so great (Mind you, we had THREE prof's for the course, one of which had a stroke, and two of which were asian and hardly spoke English).


Dude/Dudette, that's rough. Hope your prof recovered okay.
Gargantua City State
16-02-2006, 06:20
Dude/Dudette, that's rough. Hope your prof recovered okay.

(Dude) I honestly have no idea. He'd had strokes previous to that one, so he was barely walking as it was. Writing on the blackboard was a major challenge for him.
It wouldn't be the first university prof I had in my three years of engineering that died, though. One was an alcoholic Irishman whose liver finally quit trying.
Saint Curie
16-02-2006, 06:22
(Dude) I honestly have no idea. He'd had strokes previous to that one, so he was barely walking as it was. Writing on the blackboard was a major challenge for him.
It wouldn't be the first university prof I had in my three years of engineering that died, though. One was an alcoholic Irishman whose liver finally quit trying.

Eeek. Your school should look into Russian math profs. They're pretty good, and their livers are made out of bailing twine and fiberglass, so not a lot can go wrong.
Peisandros
16-02-2006, 06:24
I like maths. It's been pretty easy for me so far this year.
Gargantua City State
16-02-2006, 06:26
Eeek. Your school should look into Russian math profs. They're pretty good, and their livers are made out of bailing twine and fiberglass, so not a lot can go wrong.

LMAO! Actually, they hired a Russian to teach for my second year! Guy was bloody awesome! His accent ruled. Not the greatest at teaching the material, but he made the classes interesting, anyway, which was a nice change of pace... since engineering is mostly really, really dry.
M3rcenaries
16-02-2006, 06:27
i sort of like math but iam terrible at it:(
join teh club
Rameria
16-02-2006, 07:00
I love math. But then, I'm a nerd. I once taught myself vector calculus during the summer because I was bored. :D
Anarchuslavia
16-02-2006, 07:21
now this is my kinda thread :)
the great thing with maths (as we say it here in australia lols), is that you can reverse whatever you just did to check if u did it right the first time.
if i think ive screwed differentiation, all i have to do is integrate it back!!
its logical, and the teachers won't (and cant) mark you down if you have a crappy writing technique (not enough similes for you, miss? well metaphor this:sniper:
i also have issues with my english teacher, and i like my maths teacher.
Santa- nita
16-02-2006, 08:09
I love math, accounting and bookkeeping, statistics and methods relating to the above, copys, I am a copy holic.

I have at least one copy of every NS issue I answerd and dismissed in a file luggage, a copy of every nation when first created and then some.

I keep a notebook with all the issues I have answerd and the results of how the rankings have changed.

Although it is incomplete I have many of the changes on this notebook, wish it was complete.

I also have an incomplete record of changes of the issues on notepad.

I am working on a notebook that lists all the issues by alphabetical order, with refrence numbers, and the changes in the rankings, with some of the comments on the nation page.

For exsample
Should democracy be compulsory Issue No 00

La habana cuba, type of nation, option 01, effects on
type of nation, civil rights, economy, political freedoms,
and the nation page comment

The Vat, option 02, effects on type of nation, civil rights, economy, political freedoms and the nation page comment.

New issues not numbered are put in a seperate notebook in order received with corresponding numerical number.

I am starting to keep an accurate population count increase of new nations.

It dosent take alot of time, just a few minutes if you do it right away.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
16-02-2006, 08:13
Math was my favorite and best subject thru Algebra II. Once I got into pre-Calculus, however, I completely lost interest and tuned out. I don't give a damn about all that sign, cosign bullshit. When you have to use your calculator more then your head, it's no fun anymore.
JRV
16-02-2006, 08:13
I'm not really that interested in maths at all. It's not something I'd do for fun. But I do recognize that it has its value and various uses...
Undelia
16-02-2006, 08:39
NO!
I can't stress that enough.
Anarchuslavia
16-02-2006, 08:56
I am working on a notebook that lists all the issues by alphabetical order, with refrence numbers, and the changes in the rankings, with some of the comments on the nation page.


in my summer holidays, i listed all my cds in a notebook, firstly alphabetically by artist, then by cd name. ppl think i am weird. but i enjoyed it. i then listed all the songs on each cd under each letter of the alphabet. i get annoyed when ppl put my cds back in the wrong order...

[that was strangely therapeutic]
Revasser
16-02-2006, 10:40
I don't like maths. I'm not very good at it beyond basic stuff and it irritates me.

That, and I can't manipulate numbers to the same degree or with the same ease I can manipulate words or people. So I prefer to avoid them as much as I can when it comes to getting what I want and furthering my devious schemes.
Demented Hamsters
16-02-2006, 10:48
I love maths, especially algebra. There's something extremely exciting and almost spiritual when you finally get an equation out.

Well, it is for me. But I don't get out much.
Mariehamn
16-02-2006, 10:51
Your school should look into Russian math profs.
Iraqis are the bomb. Mine was straight outta Baghdad under Saddam.

Math is good. But, geometry is the devil. It looks so simple, so I put my guard down, and then use Phytagora's equation-thing on a non-right angled triangle! Arrgggghhh!!!!
Anarchuslavia
16-02-2006, 11:07
I love maths, especially algebra. There's something extremely exciting and almost spiritual when you finally get an equation out.

Well, it is for me. But I don't get out much.

i hear ya
Cromotar
16-02-2006, 11:08
Math = t3h win
Pythagosaurus
16-02-2006, 11:14
I decline to answer.
The Beehive
16-02-2006, 12:47
i hate math. i love my math teacher but i hate math. it's so boring D: i love art and history.
Palaios
16-02-2006, 12:50
I enjoy maths, to a certain extent, as long as its something solvable and that you don't spend have a day working on it only to find out later that there wasn't an actualy solution.... that doesn't tend to happen to much though
Little cocktail weenie
16-02-2006, 12:53
I can barley count to three :D
SimNewtonia II
16-02-2006, 12:58
I decline to answer.

lol.

And why on earth is it referred to math in America? Maths sounds better.
Turquoise Days
16-02-2006, 13:13
Iraqis are the bomb. Mine was straight outta Baghdad under Saddam.

Math is good. But, geometry is the devil. It looks so simple, so I put my guard down, and then use Phytagora's equation-thing on a non-right angled triangle! Arrgggghhh!!!!
Ahah! Another successful kill for Pythagoras' Theorem.:)
Mooseica
16-02-2006, 13:18
lol.

And why on earth is it referred to math in America? Maths sounds better.

lol, don't start - there was a whole thread on this a while back. Didn't get anywhere (predictably).

But yeah - maths rules! :D *secret geek* I'm doing double maths at college atm, and it rawks my sawks. Apart from stats

*ARRRRRRG!!! HATEHATEHATE STATS DIEDIEDIE!!!!:headbang: :headbang: *

which frankly is 73h 5uXX0rz. Mechanics is great though, even if my teacher is a bit of a 'tard. My Pure teacher is a badass pimp though, so that's ok.
The Riemann Hypothesis
16-02-2006, 13:33
Statistics is not real math, so that's okay that you don't like it. As we all know, pure math is infinitely superior to all other forms of math.

And we Americans don't put an s on the end of math because it's short for mathematics, not mathsematics. We just chop off the "matics" and it ends up as math.
Commie Catholics
16-02-2006, 14:03
Mathematics is the only thing that I find understandable. In physics, we try to find fact. But then one observation that doesn't tie in with everything else can potentially nullify all current understanding of the universe. Chemistry is just plain stupid. The tell you that Hydrogen and Carbon forms a non-polar bond because they both have roughly the same electronegativity and that any other bonds between different atoms are polar. But when you look at an electronegativity chart you find that sulphur and phosphorus have the same electronegativity as carbon, yet for some reason we just say it's a polar bond.

Mathematics is definitive. There's no extremely oversimplified models, no questionable facts. It's pure truth.

Pure mathematics is the most interesting. Particularly the extremely difficult problems like Fermat's Last Theorem, and the Riemann Hypothesis. It's, in it's own way, beautiful.
Trilateral Commission
16-02-2006, 14:27
Mathematics is the only thing that I find understandable. In physics, we try to find fact. But then one observation that doesn't tie in with everything else can potentially nullify all current understanding of the universe. Chemistry is just plain stupid. The tell you that Hydrogen and Carbon forms a non-polar bond because they both have roughly the same electronegativity and that any other bonds between different atoms are polar. But when you look at an electronegativity chart you find that sulphur and phosphorus have the same electronegativity as carbon, yet for some reason we just say it's a polar bond.

Mathematics is definitive. There's no extremely oversimplified models, no questionable facts. It's pure truth.

Youre just referring to an introductory chemistry course with its simplified models. The bonding of atoms is unbelieveably elegant and logical, especially once you get into the nitty gritty mathematical models involved. (Something I haven't grasped because I myself am not very good at math)

Also, physics is a lot more coherent than you're making it out to be. Finding a better and more accurate model of the universe is what physics is all about, and improving our understanding of reality is what makes it so worthwhile.

Pure Math can be a lot more difficult to visualize than physics, even the most advanced physics theories. Who understands the Riemanns Hypothesis anyways?
Swilatia
16-02-2006, 15:05
Its easier than learning second language. And its called MATHS or MATHEMATICS, not math.
Heavenly Sex
16-02-2006, 16:24
Math is evil and needs to burn in hell forever.
Certainly the most sane reply here! :D

I loathe maths :sniper: :gundge: :mp5:

Besides, this maths crap is mostly useless anyway (unless you have one of the few jobs which require it, like working in a bank).
Language skills are a lot more important!
TEH SPOCK
16-02-2006, 16:40
Yes, I'm taking: 'Prepairing scientific education B1,2 math'(Translated from Dutch), Which is the hardest math in Holland's secondary education available comparable to studying math at university in the US.
Saint Curie
16-02-2006, 19:07
Iraqis are the bomb. Mine was straight outta Baghdad under Saddam.

Math is good. But, geometry is the devil. It looks so simple, so I put my guard down, and then use Phytagora's equation-thing on a non-right angled triangle! Arrgggghhh!!!!

Go with the Law of Cosines, it'll do you right.
Utracia
16-02-2006, 19:10
All Math Must Die!!!!!
DrunkenDove
16-02-2006, 19:20
I am naturally talented at maths, which led to complacency and eventually left me far behind my non-talented peers. I now wish I had worked even a little bit. *Sigh*
Saint Curie
16-02-2006, 19:27
I am naturally talented at maths, which led to complacency and eventually left me far behind my non-talented peers. I now wish I had worked even a little bit. *Sigh*

I was the same way with Interpretive Erotic Dance.
The Riemann Hypothesis
16-02-2006, 19:34
Who understands the Riemanns Hypothesis anyways?

*raises hand* Me.
Wallonochia
16-02-2006, 19:35
Its easier than learning second language. And its called MATHS or MATHEMATICS, not math.

I disagree. I have a far easier time with with language than mathematics.
The Elder Malaclypse
16-02-2006, 19:38
To be sung to the tune of "Oh, Christmas Tree"

Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
How tough are both your branches.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
To pass, what are my chances
Derivatives I cannot take,
At integrals my fingers shake.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
How tough are both your branches.

Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
Your theorems I can't master.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
My proofs are a disaster.
You pull a trick out of the air,
Or find a reason, God knows where.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
Your theorems I can't master.

Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
Your problems do distress me.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
Related rates depress me.
I walk toward lampposts in my sleep,
And running water makes me weep.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
Your problems do distress me.

Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
My limit I am reaching.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
For mercy I'm beseeching.
my grades do not approach a B,
They're just an epsilon from D.
Oh, Calculus; Oh, Calculus,
My limit I am reaching.
Pure Metal
16-02-2006, 20:11
dyslexia = maths hard. things may be understood, but never learned. like, i don't even know my times-tables :(


the funny thing is i'm good with numbers - as in understanding the logical relationships between them and getting practical stuff out of a bunch of data (ie. spreadsheets) but present me with an abstract equation and expect me to work it out and you're just having a laugh.

maths lessons were horrible at school (awful nerve-wracking experiences every bloody day) :(
and at uni trying to do econometrics was worse. gave up in the end.
Solarea
16-02-2006, 20:14
Math is actually quite ifty once you get the hang of it, but "getting the hang of it" is pretty darn difficult especially in my experience, which is mostly my country's idiotic human-TI-92 mentat training scheme.

Most of the "challenges" in math are simply lowly, monotonous, repetitive, mechanical work, which is only difficult in the way moving a mountain of sand a bucket at a time is. Mathematics puts far too much emphasis on being a living theorem reference book, requiring you to memorise every equation, every subtle theorem, every detail with perfect precision; and being able to recall that knowledge within miliseconds - fast enough so that you can just think on the fly while writing the necessary equations. And there's not nearly enough emphasis on inventiveness, and what there is so well masked and hidden that when you actually have to use your brain and not just brute calculating power, your wits are so stunned you just get a headache. It's like undergoing basic training which consists of running laps with a heavy machine gun and equipment through a repetitive maze and shooting targets which are always at the same places for 14 hours a day every day of the week, then having a pink elephant charge you out of nowhere 7 months into it and be expected to react just as well- it's just not right.

I can't help feeling that it's torture to have to do everything by hand, even while training as that ends up having you solve questions under 4 minutes (and at times 1, depending on the exam) in the end because, hey, if you did it all by hand before you can manage it on the exam too! I haven't the slightest problem compiling semi-vague (no unnecessary description) algorithms in my mind, in fact I derive almost orgasmic pleasure from it. But it is almost always promptly spoiled by the menial slave labor I am forced to do. It's like making the architect not only draw up plans, but also get all the material, prepare it, put it together and build a pyramid all by himself!

There really is no point after algebra. You should have a computer which you can have doing all the tasks after you figure out what to do. The human mind should be free to assume the role of taskmaster once it has a general idea of the subject: The manager doesn't repair broken computers- that's the technician's job.

A simple example: What's sin(75)? Now you know it's a very simple matter of using the sin(a+b) equation, setting a for 30 and b for 45. But why should you have to memorise the sinacosb+cosasinb formula? Along with the others? How can any person be expected to remember what sina*sinb equals? Isn't it enough that he knows there's some sort of formula for it which can be dug up from a book or computer at need? And that's just trigonometry.

Maybe it's just that my country's education system sucks, but then again math education isn't that different here or that substandard (which doesn't necessarily mean it's good, just that standards are fine with it: As for the standards...). Maybe I'm just bitter towards math because I suck at it and I really wish I didn't suck at it. Maybe I'm just jealous of the people who are good at math and trying to subconsciously cram as many veiled subtle insults to them as I can in this rambling post.

But still, one wonders: What's next? Memorising the periodic table? Protein formulas? The DNA sequence? It could save us a lot of data storage space for one, I guess.

Once more, I don't think the general needs to know enough about a Paladin to be able to assemble a working one from scrap, just what the Paladin does and what it needs to do it.
Pantygraigwen
16-02-2006, 20:19
I may be a nerd or something, but math for me is really fun, and it's the only thing, besides chemistry that makes any sense. Just wondering what the rest of you think.

it's mathematics.
so mathS.
UberPenguinLandReturns
16-02-2006, 21:04
I'm a freshman and got a 650 on the Maths section of the SAT I. That's in the top 13% of all other people who took it that day. Yes, I like mathematics. Except writting proofs. Ugh.
Endomnia
16-02-2006, 21:15
I seem to be seeing a lot of this:

I HATE MATH,

But with math you cannot miss,
For it will show you the path.

Math is infinitely simple and
At the same time infinitely complex,
I do love is so for it
has so many subjects.

I am so sorry about that. But seriously I think school really turns people off of real mathematics. The math they teach in school is bull shit. All they teach is the mechanical crunching of numbers, the usefull stuff. TO HELL WITH THE USEFULL STUFF. The fun stuff is not usefull (but typically ends up having a use) and is almost never taught in school. Math is not about numbers, its about any logically consistent model. Anyways, uh...

I LOVE MATHEMATICS
Solarea
17-02-2006, 17:05
it's mathematics.
so mathS.

To be sure, "mathematics" comes from μαθηματικός, "mathematikos", and the s has nothing to do with plurality, it's merely the o being dropped. So just as you wouldn't abbreviate radius "rads", it should be math.

Again, "mathematic" is not a noun in English.
The Goa uld
17-02-2006, 17:19
Math is the spawn of the devil, especially Calc.