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Okay, so this guy is really, really f'd up. But should he have to register as a sex offender?


Mich. Man Sentenced in Sheep Abuse Case

BATTLE CREEK, Mich. (AP) -- A man who pleaded no contest to a sodomy charge involving a sheep says he should not have to register as a sex offender.

Jeffrey S. Haynes said the state registry is intended to keep track of people who have committed crimes against humans.

But Calhoun County Circuit Court Judge Conrad Sindt told Haynes at his sentencing hearing that once he is released from prison, he must register with the Michigan State Police Public Sex Offender Registry.

Haynes, 42, of Battle Creek, was sentenced Monday to 2 1/2 years to 20 years in prison. He entered the plea in January. A no contest plea is not an admission of guilt but is treated as such for sentencing purposes.


Tamara Towns, an assistant prosecutor for the county, argued that Haynes should be ordered to register as a sex offender because once out of prison, he could prey on children or vulnerable adults.

Haynes said he is not a violent person and would not assault children.

"The prosecutor is being real hard on me for what I did," he said. "But I should not be treated as a child molester."

A telephone call seeking comment was left Tuesday at the Marshall office of defense attorney John B. Sullivan.


Police said Haynes had sex with a sheep at a Bedford Township farm on Jan. 26, 2005. The animal's owner caught him on the property and the sheep was found injured.

Haynes was arrested in June after a DNA sample taken from the animal matched Haynes' genetic material.

Haynes has prior convictions for burglary, home invasion and uttering and publishing, and was on parole for burglary at the time of the sex crime.

Okay, so this guy is really, really f'd up. But should he have to register as a sex offender?
I'm not sure how the register is used in America, but in Britain it's used to stop people gaining employment with vulnerable people. As such, putting the guy on the register seems pointless - there's no evidence that he's a risk to children or other vulnerable people, and it wouldn't stop him working on a farm, where he would be a danger.

Shouldn't he be put on the sex offender list so he can never get a job as shepherd?

maybe he should get a baaaaaaring order?

His criminal record will stop him working in most places except maybe the White House.

Ewwww


Haynes was arrested in June after a DNA sample taken from the animal matched Haynes' genetic material.


I bet that is a new one for the forensics team. You'll never see that on CSI, I bet.

he's a piece of shit.
who even cares what happens to him?

Granted he is of no harm to humans. (sexually speaking) But he is a crimanl and this list can at least be used to let others Know he isn't a decent person.


I mean hell he might break into to my house and steal my stuff and blow my cat. Sure the cats happy but what about my stuff.

considering the Topic, the offense and the arguments...


"The prosecutor is being real hard on me for what I did," he said. "But I should not be treated as a child molester."

Why do I sense a love story here. :D

I mean hell he might break into to my house and steal my stuff and blow my cat. Sure the cats happy but what about my stuff.Hah! Made me spew beer all over the screen :p

I mean hell he might break into to my house and steal my stuff and blow my cat. Sure the cats happy but what about my stuff.


LMAO
But i thought the point was, he didn't like pussy?

Never said he didn't like it. Chances are, he couldn't get it.

Hah! Made me spew beer all over the screen :p

That was funny ... :p

No he likes women or men just not human.

Let this be a lesson to those who are single. Sure you may not have a boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife, but at least you're not as sad and pathetic as this guy is.

not only shouldnt he have to register as a sex offender. i agree that that should be for the protection of PEOPLE but he shoudlnt have to go to prison for fucking a sheep

yeah is extremely nasty but what is the offense? sheep rape? theft of services? seems to ME that it should be a civil offense requiring the sheeps owner to sue for monetary damages

yeah is extremely nasty but what is the offense? sheep rape? theft of services? seems to ME that it should be a civil offense requiring the sheeps owner to sue for monetary damages

Hey dont forget tresspessing and he should have to register on a sex offender list. The sheep may not have wanted it. I mean there is the possibility it was a slutty sheep. But the sheep was at home minding her own buisness when BAM it's get a litlle sick loven. This is rape of an unwilling being. Also it is just horribly disgusting. plus he owes this farmer a chunk of cash for use of the animal.

Okay, so this guy is really, really f'd up. But should he have to register as a sex offender?
Just another example of a quickly passed law to solve some social problem. I've got a feeling that a lot of laws that are passed just to make voters feel good have unintended consequences that don't get discovered until the laws are actually enforced.

not only shouldnt he have to register as a sex offender. i agree that that should be for the protection of PEOPLE but he shoudlnt have to go to prison for fucking a sheep

yeah is extremely nasty but what is the offense? sheep rape? theft of services? seems to ME that it should be a civil offense requiring the sheeps owner to sue for monetary damagesAnimal cruelty.

If the sheep could & had consented to it, I don't see what the problem would be (apart from making me queasy), but it neither could nor did, and there's a fair chance he hurt it. I happen to know that a couple of dogs die from internal bleedings every year in my country, because their owners rape them.

I don't know if sheep are hurt get hurt, but even if they suffer no obvious harm, I think it would be near impossible, or impossible, to conclude they're OK with being raped.

So, animal cruelty.

Hey dont forget tresspessing and he should have to register on a sex offender list. The sheep may not have wanted it. I mean there is the possibility it was a slutty sheep. But the sheep was at home minding her own buisness when BAM it's get a litlle sick loven. This is rape of an unwilling being. Also it is just horribly disgusting. plus he owes this farmer a chunk of cash for use of the animal.

"Hey," weirdo whispers, waggling his eyebrows suggestively, "Ewe wanna, mess around?"

"BaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA......."

He makes a very valid point. While he is a sick, perverted individual, it is doubtable that he is a danger to humans and thus should not be tagged with the dangerous stigma of a sex offender.

not only shouldnt he have to register as a sex offender. i agree that that should be for the protection of PEOPLE but he shoudlnt have to go to prison for fucking a sheep
Some states have laws against sex with animals, but regardless, it was a violation of parole.

He should be charged with cruelty to animals, but putting him on the offender list is just silly. How's that going to keep him away from Mary's little lamb?

It is funny, he can (once out of jail) walk up to any barnyard without a problem. Schools? no. Seems backwards...

It is funny, he can (once out of jail) walk up to any barnyard without a problem. Schools? no. Seems backwards...

They should ban him from owning mammalian pets too. He can't be trusted to leave Spot the dog in peace.

It's okay to love your dog, as long as you don't really loooove you dog.... get it?

Ahh, Michigan...

Where men are men...

...and the sheep are nervious! :D

The qoute is
"Where men are men
And so are the Women
And all the sheep are afraid"

It's ten o'clock. Do you know where your sheep are?

No sheep is safe tonight...

As she lay there dozing next to me, one voice inside my head kept saying, 'Relax, you're not the first doctor to sleep with one of his patients', but the another kept reminding me, 'Howard, you are a veterinarian!

Let this be a lesson to those who are single. Sure you may not have a boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife, but at least you're not as sad and pathetic as this guy is.Gee ,Thanks for the positive reinforcement but i'm not into bestiality.:rolleyes:

Sick.

Apparently in my state it's not even illegal to sodomize animals. As some university students were sodomizing the research animals in the agricultural/biology area. And they couldn't get rid of them without being sued for getting rid of them for unfair discrimination or something because it wasn't illegal.

So, yeah. Bestiality is one of those things where there doesn't seem to be any real reason not to kill them other than squeamishness, which is silly because it'd make more sense to kill them in squeamish fury.

Do you have to sign up for a similar list if you kill someone, in any legal definition, and are being released?

This whole thing is a bit like a guy who rapes old ladies saying hey I am not a danger to kids..so?...this weird sick freak had sex with a SHEEP, he injured the sheep and that is animal cruelty, also it shows that he has a very odd and twisted sexuality and just because he thinks its ok to rape an animal worries me even more, he is a house breaker who thinks its ok to have sex with farm animals? OK you want guys like that NOT on a register? This guy is sexually twisted enough to want sex with a sheep....so whats to say that one day he wont break into some house and decide its OK to have sex with someones dog, cat or what have you...then maybe he gets horny and there is no sheep/dog/cat but there is a little kid or an old woman or anyone. I say that the man has a warped sexual function, he commited a sexual act that is illegal therego he is a sexual offender and should STFU whining about his name being on a list for it....dude the whole world knows you had sex with a sheep now, just keep your freaky mouth shut.

This whole thing is a bit like a guy who rapes old ladies saying hey I am not a danger to kids..so?...this weird sick freak had sex with a SHEEP, he injured the sheep and that is animal cruelty, also it shows that he has a very odd and twisted sexuality and just because he thinks its ok to rape an animal worries me even more, he is a house breaker who thinks its ok to have sex with farm animals? OK you want guys like that NOT on a register? This guy is sexually twisted enough to want sex with a sheep....so whats to say that one day he wont break into some house and decide its OK to have sex with someones dog, cat or what have you...then maybe he gets horny and there is no sheep/dog/cat but there is a little kid or an old woman or anyone. I say that the man has a warped sexual function, he commited a sexual act that is illegal therego he is a sexual offender and should STFU whining about his name being on a list for it....dude the whole world knows you had sex with a sheep now, just keep your freaky mouth shut.

you do bring up a good point. however, most "sexual deviants" tend to keep either completely or nearly completely in a narrow range of acts (child molestors rarely "branch out" to taking advantage of the elderly, or example). while not the same, it's somewhat analagous to a "normal" person's sexual preference: straight 30-something males might go for 20-40/50 year old women, but very rarely 80-year-old men, or hampsters. people tend to "stick with what they know," for lack of a better term.

the words in quotes are used for lack of more accurate terminology, and for simplicity.

one thing i find ironic is that this guy might almost be better off being registered as a sex offender; if he does get his charge removed from that list, it just means that his job application will have to show "burglary, home invasion and beastiality," rather than your every-day, run-of-the-mill sex crime :rolleyes:

Proof of what happens when you rush a law through without thinking it out properly beforehand.
The guy's already a laughing stock; no-one will ever forget (or let him forget) what he's done. He doesn't need to be put on a sex-offenders list for this. Just banned from farms and butchers, that's all.


In NZ recently there came to light a case of a school bus driver who was fired cause his name was put on the sex offender's list. His crime: being caught sleeping with his 15 yr g/f when he was 16. She was 3 days shy of her 16th b/day (so they could have waited, but that's beside the point). He's now like 50 or 60 and still married to said g/f. But due to the strict nature of these poorly-thought-out laws, he's lost his job for something that happen 40 years ago. Hardly what the original aim of these laws are. There surely should be allowed some lee-way through the courts to have your name taken off if you can show that being on there goes against the nature and point of the list.

Ewwww



I bet that is a new one for the forensics team. You'll never see that on CSI, I bet.
You know they're running out of plots they haven't repeated. *nods*

Okay, so this guy is really, really f'd up. But should he have to register as a sex offender?
Well, he should if the sex he had was actually offensive to the populace that observe the law :rolleyes:

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Proof of what happens when you rush a law through without thinking it out properly beforehand.
The guy's already a laughing stock; no-one will ever forget (or let him forget) what he's done. He doesn't need to be put on a sex-offenders list for this. Just banned from farms and butchers, that's all.


In NZ recently there came to light a case of a school bus driver who was fired cause his name was put on the sex offender's list. His crime: being caught sleeping with his 15 yr g/f when he was 16. She was 3 days shy of her 16th b/day (so they could have waited, but that's beside the point). He's now like 50 or 60 and still married to said g/f. But due to the strict nature of these poorly-thought-out laws, he's lost his job for something that happen 40 years ago. Hardly what the original aim of these laws are. There surely should be allowed some lee-way through the courts to have your name taken off if you can show that being on there goes against the nature and point of the list.

Urg.....

he's a piece of shit.
who even cares what happens to him?

Where do we draw the line between pieces of shit and american citizens who need their rights protected?

DOn't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for the man and I'd find great joy in his bizarre and animal-related death. But I'm not thinking of him right now. I'm thinking of the criminal justice system. That system has to be kept under constant scrutiny because every so often, innocent men have to rely on it too.

http://antivegan.de/forum/images/smiles/schaf_2.gif

*swipes the new smilie* :D

Granted he is of no harm to humans. (sexually speaking) But he is a crimanl and this list can at least be used to let others Know he isn't a decent person.


I mean hell he might break into to my house and steal my stuff and blow my cat. Sure the cats happy but what about my stuff.

:D Funniest thing i've read all week!

German sex industry entrepreneurs are allready looking forward to acquire people like Mr. Haynes as their customers for their new inflatable sheep doll.
http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/german/liesel.jpg

Ewwww



I bet that is a new one for the forensics team. You'll never see that on CSI, I bet.
Just wait till next week, Grisom will solve it for sure :)

This reminds me of a story I read a few years ago about a man who was caught molesting underage goats.

I kid you not.

~Jig~

Really, unless the defence can prove that the sheep in question was baaing in a provacative fashion and somehow gave consent, he is a sex offender. Call me old fashioned and conservative but sex with a helpless, animal is not a good thing and way far from normal behavour. I’ve never personally looked at a sheep and thought about chatting up a ewe for some action and I can’t see it being considered legal.

The Bruce

I think he deserves to be on the sex offenders list. I mean it's not like the guy doesn't deserve it! And with his other offences, I hope they don't let the guy out of jail either. At the very least, kick him out of Michigan so I don't have to share a state with the weirdo. Ah, I can just see him in prison now.

"What're you in for?"

"Rape."

"Why'd you do it."

"I just couldn't resist the curly hair or soft brown eyes... and the way she bleated was just..."

"Bleated?!"

"Yeah, that's what sheep do man! Jeeze, you don't think I'd rape a PERSON do you?!"

Hehehehehe. That's awesome. Lol!

I seriously doubt hes a sheepophile, I think its more the case that he isn't at all descriminatory and would probably fuck anything he could get his hands on. With that in mind put him on the register.