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For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.
Do you need to sleep? Well, obviously you need to sleep sometimes, but are you actually tired when you go to bed?
It is possible that you could do with a half hour shaved off the top.
Alternately, trying a new position (no, not that kind you perv) in bed (NO! We already went over this) will help you better attain nocturnal satisfaction (GODDAMMIT, STOP GIGGLING!).

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.

You can get drunk!

Yep, I always have a bottle of booze handy for little late night emergencies. Having a wank also works wonders....so I've heard:eek:

Marijuana is an all-natural cure for insomnia, but it faces serious legal problems in the United States. It really should be legal in order to bring the hemp industry to the United States.

Warm milk with honey.

Reading a really boring book also helps sometimes.

Oh, and masturbation.

Reading a really boring book also helps sometimes.
Yeah, that is something else that can help. Socratatic dialogues are like valium in print form, and simply being near a copy of The Scarlet Letter is enough to make me doze.

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.
I find reading in bed can help you get to sleep, some material is better than others though. Read Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. It's long enough to give you about a year of good sleep.

Yeah, that is something else that can help. Socratatic dialogues are like valium in print form, and simply being near a copy of The Scarlet Letter is enough to make me doze.
I was thinking like calculus textbooks... those always do the trick for me. But yeah, that would do too I suppose.

Of course the downside is falling asleep with the light on...

I was thinking like calculus textbooks... those always do the trick for me. But yeah, that would do too I suppose.

Of course the downside is falling asleep with the light on...
I always liked calculus, but I also do trigonometric identities for fun, so, yeah.
And I am serious about The Scarlet Letter, one time I fell asleep while reading it, and I just stayed out. I remember that I'd keep starting to wake up, but then I'd feel that damn book and all will to open my eyes would leave me again. I only ever woke up because I finally knocked it off my lap, and I am thoroughly convinced that I'd have made it to a coma were it not for that accident.

Discover your own cure, you must.

Masturbation, school reading.

pot, beer, wank

In that order.

What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
Go find one of the Endless, stand in their gallery, hold his signal and call him?

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

I always find the best way is to get out of bed, and spend 30 minutes or so doing something else, like watching TV and then try again. If I can't fall asleep in 15 minutes, try again.

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.
I work till I pass out

Simple as that

ear plugs, hot-water bottle and a book that it doesnt matter losing your place in. alcohol's a false hope tho cuz it has calories which keep you awake so if theirs comething mental keeping you awake you will stay awake - i once went through a whole bottle of vodka the night before a job interview cuz i was so nervous i couldnt sleep: ended up with 2 hours sleep and was still drunk for the interview (which i had to drive to - badness to the power of :eek: ). i got the job but it really wasnt worth it at all. failing that weed works wonders but its expensive - spent my first year of uni constantly stoned and had about 12 hrs sleep a night every night - downside = an overdraft the size of the US budget deficit i.e. too big to even cotemplate.

Yeah, that is something else that can help. Socratatic dialogues are like valium in print form, and simply being near a copy of The Scarlet Letter is enough to make me doze.

Thank you. Hands down, that was the driest, most boring classic I ever suffered through. =D

I hear that drinking alcohol before bed can actually disturb a person's sleep cycle. If you're having insomnia all of a sudden, it could be that there's something stressful in your life that needs to be dealt with, something that's on your mind at night, maybe. So my advice would be to de-stress (if that's the case) and also to make sure your bedroom is only used for sleeping and not other activities. When you walk into your bedroom, your brain should be conditioned to go into sleep mode, not homework mode or computer mode or whatever... Hope that helps a little. =)

Every time I start doing assigned reading in biology...
Or Great Expectations is a sure sleeper. If you just had a big meal that helps.

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.

I know the cure.

Get a good computer techno book. Something like Cryptology or Operating Systems theory.

Climb into bed and read it.

You will sleep. ;)

Also,

There is my Granddads approach.

He used warm milk with a touch of cinnamon.

Then again he might of added something when I wasn't looking! ;)

Some form of music always works for me. On both extremes, i listen to Raga or some form of calming sitar music, or I can blast some from of heavy industrial metal. Bass seems to knock me out. So yeah, Ravi Shankar, or Rammstein. Give it a try.

Try reading the "Introduction to Microsoft Windows" manual that came with your computer. :)

Actually, I've had this issue. This is what I did - when it was time for bed, whether I was sleepy or not, I went through the "ritual" of going to bed (brush teeth, take off clothes, etc.). Once in bed, in the dark, I would close my eyes and imagine I had won a $250 million lottery and then I would work my way down, dollar for dollar until I had spent all $250 million. I never made it past about $30 million. I'd think about cars, taxes, charitable donations, houses (and where they would be and their style, furnishings, etc.), vacations, "toys" etc. on and on in detail, trying to account for every single dime of how I would spend the money. I always ended up asleep (and usually had cool dreams).

Try reading the "Introduction to Microsoft Windows" manual that came with your computer. :)

Actually, I've had this issue. This is what I did - when it was time for bed, whether I was sleepy or not, I went through the "ritual" of going to bed (brush teeth, take off clothes, etc.). Once in bed, in the dark, I would close my eyes and imagine I had won a $250 million lottery and then I would work my way down, dollar for dollar until I had spent all $250 million. I never made it past about $30 million. I'd think about cars, taxes, charitable donations, houses (and where they would be and their style, furnishings, etc.), vacations, "toys" etc. on and on in detail, trying to account for every single dime of how I would spend the money. I always ended up asleep (and usually had cool dreams).
That has the opposite effect on me-overthinking. I just take myself to my calming happy place - the one I created in math class when I was really bored. Its smaller than my own fantasy universe that I lose myself in. But you have to be an escapist to imagine a place good enough to work.

I say, just enjoy insomnia.

I got lots of work done last year when I couldnt sleep for about a month.. Spend lots of time on the internet looking at random and strange sites.
However, if you want to sleep.. Temazepam did the trick for me.

Edit: Oh, no drugs? Hmm. Dunno then.

That has the opposite effect on me-overthinking. I just take myself to my calming happy place - the one I created in math class when I was really bored. Its smaller than my own fantasy universe that I lose myself in. But you have to be an escapist to imagine a place good enough to work.

Believe me, when I imagine I've won $250 million in a lottery, I'm in total escapist mode with the imagination. With that much $ I'm in a very calming and happy place. I'm having fun figuring out how to spend the $$, The closest I"m coming to overthinking is trying to decide on a Lamborghini with a 6 speed, short throw shifter or a Porche with an automatic transmission. :)

Masturbation usually works.

I find pot keeps me awake...but it seems that I am in the minority there.

A glass of warm milk with a dash of nutmeg.

If all that fails, you could always have a friend beat the ever-living shit out of you and knock you out. That's guaranteed to work, although the side effects suck. :p

I suffer from insomina from time to time; and though the zombiness of the morning of the next day can be rough, I generally put my extra hours of wakefulness to good use. Since that is clearly not what you want, I'd advise marijuana (works for me) but you already said no drugs. So you should probably get to the matter of what is stressing you out and preventing you from sleeping (assuming there is actually something that is stressing you out), the easiest way to do this is when you want to go to sleep but can't you should meditate. You'll either come to an understanding of what is stressing you out and then be able to deal with it and move on with your life or the reduced mental activity will cause you to fall asleep.

I find pot keeps me awake...but it seems that I am in the minority there.


On its own, I get that too...

But have booze afterwards, and you're out to it. :p

Never before though. There's a saying...

"Grass before beer, you're in the clear,
Beer before grass, you're on your arse."

Wiser words have never been spoken.

Believe me, when I imagine I've won $250 million in a lottery, I'm in total escapist mode with the imagination. With that much $ I'm in a very calming and happy place. I'm having fun figuring out how to spend the $$, The closest I"m coming to overthinking is trying to decide on a Lamborghini with a 6 speed, short throw shifter or a Porche with an automatic transmission. :)
Does sound good. It is 1oclock am over here so I doubt I will have mcuh trouble falling asleep whenever I get my lazy-ass around to it.

Personally I have been on a life long cure for that common disorder called sleep, but I'd settle for a way to add 4 more hours to a day. Sleep is such a waste of precious time!

Read Jonathan Strange & Mr Norell. Worked for me and I've never read more than one chapter. :D

This is something I've always ment to try. Go to a used book store grab the most impenitrable dry subject matter you can find. Something you just can't force yourself to care about. Keep it by your bed, and only read it when you're sleepy. Try to read as much as possible and then when you can't take it any more go to sleep. I would bet, that when the time comes when a person who'd gone through that couldn't sleep if they put themselves in the sleeping position, and tried to read the chosen material they wouldn't be able to stay awake.

Read Jonathan Strange & Mr Norell. Worked for me and I've never read more than one chapter. :D
Porn. I never bother to watch more than one chapter at a time. Usually i don't need to ... it works for me too! ;)

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50mg Benadryl PO (by mouth) Takes about 30 minutes or so to hit you

Watch something boring on TV ... public TV, History Channel, National Geographic Channel (this backfires sometimes due to interesting shows)

Soft music just out of range of hearing ... classical works best

White noise ... fan or anything you got.

Combine the faint soft music with white noise is a good combo.

DARKNESS ... if it is daylight ... darken up your bedroom somehow!!!

I work nights in a high stress ER ... trust me ... it is tough to sleep during the day. I am nocturnal ... So I have perfected most of these tricks.

Alcohol will not help due to its diruetic effect ... it will make you wake up and have to urinate .. unless you drink too much .. then you can clean your own bed linen.

Oh and sometimes ... masturbation is just the thing if your significant other is not into it at the moment ;)

Pot helps, but you said you weren´t looking for medication.. What works for me is just to close my eyes, and imagine myself opening a door to a dark cellar and just keep on walking down the stairs untill I fall asleep.

Camomile, and talk to someone about your sleeping problems if that doesn't work.

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
Meditation - it switches off your brain. You don't need to go in for all that weird new-agey stuff - just lie entirely still concentrating on your breathing until you get that strange floating feeling (this takes practice - the body's natural response to the floating feeling is to twitch suddenly to check that the nerves are still working).

The movie "Sleep". Five hrs of a guy sleeping. Or "The Cure for Insomnia". 85 hrs of poem-reading (one poem).

For one reason or another, in the last few weeks I tend to have difficulties finding sleep.
What do you do to get Morpheus´ precious embrace?
And no, I don´t do sleeping pills, I´ld prefer non-drug involving ways.

Erm... pot and wanking is my method...

...although if you do both often enough it just starts becoming likely that you've done it near the time you're about to sleep. :cool:

Brew a pot of strong chamomile tea with a little peppermint. Drink 2-3 cups, and you should be pretty relaxed within an hour or so. That's usually enough to knock out a 200lb man, so if you're thinner or haven't had fresh chamomile before, you may want to drink less.

I cant imagine not being able to sleep. I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime within moments. I dont know if its natural or if its from conditioning.

I often take a quick 5 to 10 minute nap, if situation permits. Its like an instant recharge.

[post 8000] Easy, do what I do and spend all night posting on NS untl you fall asleep at the computer.... [/post 8000]

Yeah, that is something else that can help. Socratatic dialogues are like valium in print form, and simply being near a copy of The Scarlet Letter is enough to make me doze.

Try War and Peace

I would recommdend taking the Herb Valerian, or possibly Melatonin, or Calms Forte by Hylands (if you prefer an homeopathic cure). Alternately you could use Lavender Oil (but it smells a bit freaky) put a dab on your pillow.

Try War and Peace
Or anything by Steve Reich... or Morton Feldman... or Meredith Monk.... or... [etc.]

Its easy take mellotonin, its an all natural "substance" it is the chemical in your brain that puts to sleep, it works sometimes well because i have sleep apnea so try it you can get it at any store in the health section

Try a Spicegirls CD, if you dont lose it and smash your sterio the boredom of listening to such shite will put you to sleep.:p

I have a weird form of insomnia. I get to sleep alright, but wake up two or three hours later. Then I can't get back to sleep. It sucks. I can't take anything or drink to help me get back to sleep because I'll still be drunk/grogy when it's time to get up and get ready for work.

The ultimate cure for insomnia: The Blair Witch Project.

'Nuff said!

start thinking of images, then allow them to develop randomly exerting less control, therefore a think of a sausage, with minimal thought conjure up the next image of a cylinder which is the shape of a curled sausage and so on with less and less thought. the repitition of change and randomity as you let your subconscious take control should put you to sleep.

Dermain']Its easy take mellotonin, its an all natural "substance" it is the chemical in your brain that puts to sleep, it works sometimes well because i have sleep apnea so try it you can get it at any store in the health section
Valerian Root helps me at night and is along the same lines. http://www.1001herbs.com/valerian/

Whenever I have a hard time sleeping, I just change the channel to "Dancing with the Stars"

Works like a charm.

start thinking of images, then allow them to develop randomly exerting less control, therefore a think of a sausage, with minimal thought conjure up the next image of a cylinder which is the shape of a curled sausage and so on with less and less thought. the repitition of change and randomity as you let your subconscious take control should put you to sleep.

Though I don't usually try this type of thinking on purpose, when I start making nonsensical comparisons while lying in bed I know that I only have a couple minutes before I drop off to sleep... baring any loud noises or distractions.

Sugar!

You eat a pound of sugar, you go berzerk, annoy your friends, destroy some furniture and then you sleep like the dead. :)

I have a weird form of insomnia. I get to sleep alright, but wake up two or three hours later. Then I can't get back to sleep. It sucks. I can't take anything or drink to help me get back to sleep because I'll still be drunk/grogy when it's time to get up and get ready for work.This has probably come up before.
Have someone watch you sleep, or videotape it.
I have the same problem, because i have sleep apnea. I wasn't convinced until i started my new job in 2001. I only got 3 hours of sleep a night for AN ENTIRE MONTH and i noticed absolutely ZERO difference than if i tried to sleep more.
*nods*

This has probably come up before.
Have someone watch you sleep, or videotape it.
I have the same problem, because i have sleep apnea. I wasn't convinced until i started my new job in 2001. I only got 3 hours of sleep for AN ENTIRE MONTH and i noticed absolutely ZERO difference than if i tried to sleep more.
*nods*

Hey so do I. I was talking about it in the spider thread *shudder*.
I wake up totally exhausted. Its like I havent slept.

Slit the SIDE of your neck, pretty hard.

Then stop the blood REALLY FAST.

That'd get rid of enough blood to make you sleepy.

It's also the most effective slit-technique I know of for suicide, if you want to make a mess.

Hey so do I. I was talking about it in the spider thread *shudder*.
I wake up totally exhausted. Its like I havent slept.
I've recently acquired a C-PAP machine that helps to regulate the breathing ... and EVERYONE who's got experience in this subject recommends it ... but it doesn't address all the problems, just the "unobstructed breathing" part.
I've had it since i was 12 f*cking years old and i didn't know for sure until one of my ex-gfs shook me awake because i was making her relive one of her "traumatic experiences" with some doper friend of hers. Then i actually snored myself awake in a doctor's office once, and thought it curious that i could hear myself doing it. Now i'm sometimes in between awake and asleep when i start doing it ... it's kinda funny but deadly given enough time.
There's part of the brain AND the heart involved as well. I don't think i have the $ to cover all that though.

I've recently acquired a C-PAP machine that helps to regulate the breathing ... and EVERYONE who's got experience in this subject recommends it ... but it doesn't address all the problems, just the "unobstructed breathing" part.
I've had it since i was 12 f*cking years old and i didn't know for sure until one of my ex-gfs shook me awake because i was making her relive one of her "traumatic experiences" with some doper friend of hers. Then i actually snored myself awake in a doctor's office once, and thought it curious that i could hear myself doing it. Now i'm sometimes in between awake and asleep when i start doing it ... it's kinda funny but deadly given enough time.
There's part of the brain AND the heart involved as well. I don't think i have the $ to cover all that though.

My dad had a C-PAP too. He told me I should go have the sleep tests done and that if i got a machine, it would be the best sleep I've ever had. I guess I need to have the sleep tests, because when I sleep, I scare the hell out of people. And i have snored myself awake. Its ok for you guys, but its doubly embarassing for a girl!

The ultimate cure for insomnia: The Blair Witch Project.

'Nuff said!

LMAO!!! Winner!!! :D

*Yawn*

that bowl of Captain Crunch I had might have done the trick

My dad had a C-PAP too. He told me I should go have the sleep tests done and that if i got a machine, it would be the best sleep I've ever had. I guess I need to have the sleep tests, because when I sleep, I scare the hell out of people. And i have snored myself awake. Its ok for you guys, but its doubly embarassing for a girl!
It DOES apparently run in the family. My dad has it, has had it a long time ...
I haven't had the sleep tests done yet since i don't have the $ for it, and i might have grown around the condition somewhat. I've got to blow a weekend sometime to find what my pressure settings are. The weird thing is, my circadian sense isn't disturbed. I still will wake w'in the minute of my alarm even if i don't get the same amount of sleep ... kind of like i am partially awake some of the time anyway!