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Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay (a title that was previously held for years by northern New Jersey and parts of Pittsburgh and Johnstown, PA.

Well, at least the parts from Heathrow to Paddington are horrific.

Genuinely nice people in London, though. Really, really nice people. Far, far more friendly than the Germans (and that's not a WW II joke, I lived there for a while). In some ways, it's a surprising level of nice for people living in an urban area. It's the level of nice I only see in rural US towns.

Also, quite an eclectic mix of people - it's difficult for me to find the quintessential stereotype white male Briton here in town. White males, yes, but the town is very cosmopolitan.

There also doesn't seem to be a zoning code. Businesses of all types - from mom and pop shops to corporate offices mixed in with individual flats - it doesn't make any sense, but it makes the area where I'm staying more interesting.

That, and there's an art school across the street from the hotel, and there are a LOT of good looking women there. I take it that there's some sort of law about ugly women in town (maybe they ship them to Hull).

The Tube is in serious need of being redone - the stairs are too much, the whole thing is run down, and there are some stations that are as depressing as that station in the beginning of Half Life 2. Not a very friendly setup for anyone who is disabled, either.

Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US.

Welcome to Hell :p

(Sheesh, just wait until you hit Dublin:rolleyes: )

Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay (a title that was previously held for years by northern New Jersey and parts of Pittsburgh and Johnstown, PA.

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that title will always be held by Jersey in my book.


btw kimchi how is the food there? Ive never been to england


Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?

:eek: Blasphemy! 50 bucks for Krispy Kreme?? No donut is that good. Maybe except the jelly donuts... mmmm jelly donuts.

Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay (a title that was previously held for years by northern New Jersey and parts of Pittsburgh and Johnstown, PA.

Well, at least the parts from Heathrow to Paddington are horrific.

Genuinely nice people in London, though. Really, really nice people. Far, far more friendly than the Germans (and that's not a WW II joke, I lived there for a while). In some ways, it's a surprising level of nice for people living in an urban area. It's the level of nice I only see in rural US towns.

Also, quite an eclectic mix of people - it's difficult for me to find the quintessential stereotype white male Briton here in town. White males, yes, but the town is very cosmopolitan.

There also doesn't seem to be a zoning code. Businesses of all types - from mom and pop shops to corporate offices mixed in with individual flats - it doesn't make any sense, but it makes the area where I'm staying more interesting.

That, and there's an art school across the street from the hotel, and there are a LOT of good looking women there. I take it that there's some sort of law about ugly women in town (maybe they ship them to Hull).

The Tube is in serious need of being redone - the stairs are too much, the whole thing is run down, and there are some stations that are as depressing as that station in the beginning of Half Life 2. Not a very friendly setup for anyone who is disabled, either.
How's the populace's teeth?
Clenched?
;)

that title will always be held by Jersey in my book.
I've seen the decay that surrounds London.

It's far worse than anything Frankfurt can choke up.

The center of London is actually quite nice - sort of like Newark with some historical buildings and a lot more foreigners.

But the industrial decay outstrips New Jersey by a long shot.

I will give London points for not having the kind of kilometers-long landfill that exist in the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

I've seen the decay that surrounds London.

It's far worse than anything Frankfurt can choke up.

The center of London is actually quite nice - sort of like Newark with some historical buildings and a lot more foreigners.

But the industrial decay outstrips New Jersey by a long shot.

I will give London points for not having the kind of kilometers-long landfill that exist in the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

London is worse than Newark?, Trenton?, Jersey City? CAMDEN????

I didn't think anything that wasnt a 3rd world country could have parts as dirty as camden

London is worse than Newark?, Trenton?, Jersey City? CAMDEN????

I didn't think anything that wasnt a 3rd world country could have parts as dirty as camden

Camden is in London too. ;)

that title will always be held by Jersey in my book.


btw kimchi how is the food there? Ive never been to england




:eek: Blasphemy! 50 bucks for Krispy Kreme?? No donut is that good. Maybe except the jelly donuts... mmmm jelly donuts.


Lunch seems to be liquid here. I've discovered the meaning of "pub"

pub - noun, puh-b a place where people take their calories in liquid form and smoke cigarettes until they can't see each other

No, they aren't clenching their teeth.

"Just Fookin stay there and don't come back Kimchi!" - From the good Yuppies in Hoboken N.J. ;)

"Just Fookin stay there and don't come back Kimchi!" - From the good Yuppies in Hoboken N.J. ;)

Fortunately for me, I'm getting paid quite a bit to visit. I'll be hanging out in Dublin as well as parts of India over the coming year.

Still coming back to the US every few weeks!

No, they aren't clenching their teeth.
Ah. So Otto was exaggerating. *nods*

Fortunately for me, I'm getting paid quite a bit to visit. I'll be hanging out in Dublin as well as parts of India over the coming year.

Still coming back to the US every few weeks!

Go to the Imperial War Museum and the Cabinet War Rooms. Good times there for a history buff. Don't get a tour bus, walk - you see so much more.

Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?

Well you are in London, it is one the most expensive places in the world.

Also Krispy Kreme can probably charge for uniqueness. I don't think they have much competition.

Though if you get the chance I suggest visiting outside of London, where it is really lovely. (Sorry, I really detest London, and not just because I'm a northerner :p)

Camden is in London too. ;)


i meant camden NJ. title holder of " most dangerous US city of 2005"

edged out detroit and atlanta.

Lunch seems to be liquid here. I've discovered the meaning of "pub"

pub - noun, puh-b a place where people take their calories in liquid form and smoke cigarettes until they can't see each other

No, they aren't clenching their teeth.

I'd probably be on the same diet if i was living there myself

Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?


Do yourself a favour and stop converting the prices in your head. You'll drive yourself nuts. I remember when I was working over there walking out of a coffee shop, doing the math on an expresso... and discovering that the heart palpitations caused by realizing that I had just dropped $10 on the world's smallest cup of caffeine was a far more effective at waking me up than the coffee was.

Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?
Ah, but we have to go through the expensive process of removing the 'ugh' so the Americans can eat our doughnuts.

It always strikes me as a shame that so many tourists who visit England only see London. I mean it's not a bad capital and there are nice parts in it, but it's very different to much of the rest of the country.

I'm suprised by you describing Londoners as friendly - they never strike me as particuarly so when I visit there. I'm far far more impressed by the friendliness of people in Yorkshire.

And yeah, everything is more expensive in London by a long shot. You wouldn't be paying that much elsewhere in the country.

There also doesn't seem to be a zoning code. Businesses of all types - from mom and pop shops to corporate offices mixed in with individual flats - it doesn't make any sense, but it makes the area where I'm staying more interesting.
Most Brits will only know the idea of a 'zoning code' from SimCity. Our cities are too old to impose these new urban planning ideas on them. Unless London burns down for a third time...

I'm suprised by you describing Londoners as friendly - they never strike me as particuarly so when I visit there.

Same here, no one seems to even want to tell you the time of day.

And yeah, everything is more expensive in London by a long shot. You wouldn't be paying that much elsewhere in the country.

Isn't the majority of the South East fairly expensive?

I know Cambridge is quite dear, but not sure about anywere else.

Most Brits will only know the idea of a 'zoning code' from SimCity. Our cities are too old to impose these new urban planning ideas on them. Unless London burns down for a third time...

No kidding! As I read that the first thing I thought was "Zoning code? Like that thing off SimCity?"

Isn't the majority of the South East fairly expensive?

I know Cambridge is quite dear, but not sure about anywere else.

To be honest, I haven't being to the south west much at all. I've being to the north east, north west and south west but only being to the southeast when going to London. But none of the places in the other four corners compare to the prices of London - although some places are more expensive than others.

But none of the places in the other four corners compare to the prices of London - although some places are more expensive than others.

Sorry, can't edit my posts - that should read as three corners.

Go visit Somerset - it rocks ;)

Go visit Somerset - it rocks ;)
If you're going to go that far, you might as well come all the way to Devon. Bring some of that Zumerzet zider, though.

Fortunately for me, I'm getting paid quite a bit to visit. I'll be hanging out in Dublin as well as parts of India over the coming year.


Which parts in India?

The Tube is in serious need of being redone - the stairs are too much, the whole thing is run down, and there are some stations that are as depressing as that station in the beginning of Half Life 2. Not a very friendly setup for anyone who is disabled, either.
Victorian civil engineering: they weren't big on minority rights back then.

Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay ...

Welcome to Blighty

Lunch seems to be liquid here. I've discovered the meaning of "pub"

pub - noun, puh-b a place where people take their calories in liquid form and smoke cigarettes until they can't see each other




(1) "Pub" - welcome to civilisation.
(2) NEWS JUST IN - SMOKING BAN IN ALL PUBS AND CLUBS - YAY!!! :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4709258.stm

Heh.. Just back from the pub..

that title will always be held by Jersey in my book.


btw kimchi how is the food there? Ive never been to england




:eek: Blasphemy! 50 bucks for Krispy Kreme?? No donut is that good. Maybe except the jelly donuts... mmmm jelly donuts.


People who form their opinion of New Jersey based on the area around Newark Airport are sorely mistaken.
It couldnt be more beautiful where I live. Add to that the fact that my town has been in the top safest in the country for over 5 yrs now.

Oh, and there's a Krispy Kreme donut shop nearby.

24 pounds for two dozen donuts.

Let's see - that's more than 50 US dollars.

That's many, many times more than you pay in the US. And they are making donuts from scratch - hells bells, how much does flour and yeast and sugar and oil cost in the UK?


My god.......I can get 2 dozen FRESHLY BAKED Krispy Kremes here for $8. Hells Bells indeed!:eek:

Perhaps that's one reason why you're all such porkers.

Seriously though, Krispy Kreme doesn't really exist in the UK so I expect the London branch is charging whatever it feels like. There's more than enough idiots with money to burn in our fair capital city.

Perhaps that's one reason why you're all such porkers.




Hey..we're not all porkers.:mad:

Perhaps that's one reason why you're all such porkers.

Seriously though, Krispy Kreme doesn't really exist in the UK so I expect the London branch is charging whatever it feels like. There's more than enough idiots with money to burn in our fair capital city.

Judging by the condition of all your teeth over there, I would have guessed Krispy Kreme type diets were the norm.
Seriously though

Judging by the condition of all your teeth over there, I would have guessed Krispy Kreme type diets were the norm.
Seriously though


I shoulda known you had my back.... fo shizzle.

(and no, i dont really say fo shizzle)

that title will always be held by Jersey in my book.

North Jersey is a different state than south Jersey, why won't the federal government just officially seperate us southern jersey folk from those leeching bastards up north. Civil Jersey War!

*except Atlantic City and Pleasantville, North Jersey can have them.

Which parts in India?
Bangalore and Hyderabad.

(and no, i dont really say fo shizzle)

You don't? You're missing out dawg, I say it all the time - it's the bizzle.



Yo.




But on a slightly less ridiculous note - Kimchi you should check out the south coast. It rawks.

People who form their opinion of New Jersey based on the area around Newark Airport are sorely mistaken.
It couldnt be more beautiful where I live. Add to that the fact that my town has been in the top safest in the country for over 5 yrs now.
Well I wouldn't mind if I had a home in Holmdel, NJ...

Judging by the condition of all your teeth over there, I would have guessed Krispy Kreme type diets were the norm.
Seriously though

Judging by the way our stereotypes of Americans are based on real facts, I'd say your defence sucks.

Judging by the way our stereotypes of Americans are based on real facts, I'd say your defence sucks.

True - at least there are statistics to prove that Americans are pretty overweight as a nation. That stuff about Brits with bad teeth is a relic from WW2 I think - the American soilders had toothpaste but the British civilians they met didn't.

Bangalore and Hyderabad.

Do let me know how it went. Hyderabad has some great biryani places.

Also, check out the NASA pub (it's space themed) in Bangalore while you are there.

My brother said the people in Germany were really friendly. It's one of the reasons that Germany was his favorite country of all the European ones he visited. That and the cheap beer and the fact that he said it was so clean. Amsterdam was his favorite city for the same reasons.

Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay (a title that was previously held for years by northern New Jersey and parts of Pittsburgh and Johnstown, PA.

Well, at least the parts from Heathrow to Paddington are horrific.

Genuinely nice people in London, though. Really, really nice people. Far, far more friendly than the Germans (and that's not a WW II joke, I lived there for a while). In some ways, it's a surprising level of nice for people living in an urban area. It's the level of nice I only see in rural US towns.

Also, quite an eclectic mix of people - it's difficult for me to find the quintessential stereotype white male Briton here in town. White males, yes, but the town is very cosmopolitan.

There also doesn't seem to be a zoning code. Businesses of all types - from mom and pop shops to corporate offices mixed in with individual flats - it doesn't make any sense, but it makes the area where I'm staying more interesting.

That, and there's an art school across the street from the hotel, and there are a LOT of good looking women there. I take it that there's some sort of law about ugly women in town (maybe they ship them to Hull).

The Tube is in serious need of being redone - the stairs are too much, the whole thing is run down, and there are some stations that are as depressing as that station in the beginning of Half Life 2. Not a very friendly setup for anyone who is disabled, either.
all i can say is you should explore the rest of england while you're here... london is about the ugliest part of the country (bar a few other towns... generally up north...)

i can advise coming down to winchester in hampshire (really easy on the train from waterloo) cos its a quintessential british town (oldest standing house there was built in 1467 IIRC), but its a fairly large place so there's plenty of stuff to do there *nods*
you also can't skip on a trip to stonehenge cos its fooking ancient (and cool!)


but... welcome to my country (and enjoy your stay!) :fluffle:

you also can't skip on a trip to stonehenge cos its fooking ancient (and cool!)

Pah. Newgrange has got that beat by about a thousand years. Oldest roofed building in the world, according to some, and only a short hop across the Irish sea too.

Pah. Newgrange has got that beat by about a thousand years. Oldest roofed building in the world, according to some, and only a short hop across the Irish sea too.
but... but... its in ireland! :eek:

kimchi: you'll get shot the instant you set foot in that country - don't go there! ;) (i kid, i kid :D )

Pah. Newgrange has got that beat by about a thousand years. Oldest roofed building in the world, according to some, and only a short hop across the Irish sea too.

Older then the pyramids too actually.

Older then the pyramids too actually.

Somehow I think that piece of information is contained within the phrase 'oldest roofed building in the world'.

Somehow I think that piece of information is contained within the phrase 'oldest roofed building in the world'.


ooooOOOOOooooohhhhhh.:eek: :p

I always took the pyramids to be less of a 'roofed building' and more of a 'massive big whup ass monument'.... :p

I shoulda known you had my back.... fo shizzle.

(and no, i dont really say fo shizzle)
Didn't you quote The Cat-Tribe with that? ;)

Yes, in that cesspit of post-industrial urban decay (a title that was previously held for years by northern New Jersey and parts of Pittsburgh and Johnstown, PA.
WooT! NS has its own man on the street/man abroad!
Kinda reminds me of this ...

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Kristof_challenges_OReilly_to_visit_Darfur_1217.html
:D

Didn't you quote The Cat-Tribe with that? ;)


yes I've said it three times today. I dont ....know....whats happening to me.

peace.

Wait a minute, you came in from Heathrow and you saw urban decay?

What the hell? I ride that line every day. You must be confusing it with urban renewal, which in our terms is roughly the same as decay but has neater piles of rubbish and the half mad, half stoned tramps hanging out all over it are actually local contractors ripping off the council. How do I know? I worked for them once...

All the same, welcome to London. If you can, pick a bright sunny day to walk up the Mall and see Buckingham Palace - when the sun hits the marble statue of Queen Victoria it managed to turn a republican socialist friend of mine into a raving imperial monarchist. Now THATS stonework!

As to prices... well, yes, London is expensive. This is because people here earn money. Up North, things are cheaper because despite possessing a vast voting bloc Dole Scum still don't possess that much disposable currency (I'm an arrogant southern b*stard and proud).

Remember... anything North of Birmingham is a howling wasteland of marauding barbarian tribes, until you hit Edinburgh.

Enjoy your stay!

yes I've said it three times today. I dont ....know....whats happening to me.

peace.
Ah, peace out, bruddah!

Honestly, it could be too many subconscious hits on your intellect ... probably from being here as often as you are ;)

Ah, peace out, bruddah!

Honestly, it could be too many subconscious hits on your intellect ... probably from being here as often as you are ;)


word.


(ironically, i do say word.)

word.


(ironically, i do say word.)
The *only* reason i EVER started saying that word (echo... echo... echo...) is because Prof. Farnsworth used it in one of the coolest examples of dialogue i've ever seen on the boob tube. *nods*

Dude, did you not say you were coming to Belfast at some point?

Do let me know how it went. Hyderabad has some great biryani places.

Also, check out the NASA pub (it's space themed) in Bangalore while you are there.

NASA's a bit shady if you ask me. Much rather have a nice drink at the Dublin in the Windsor Manor.

NASA's a bit shady if you ask me. Much rather have a nice drink at the Dublin in the Windsor Manor.

I was there about 3 years back and I did'nt notice anything wrong. When were you there? Did they fleece you coz you are white?:p

I vaguely remember seeing windsor manor on the Golf Course road..is that the one?

Dude, did you not say you were coming to Belfast at some point?
That as well.

Too many places in Ireland, Northern Ireland, and places in the UK to mention.

That as well.

Too many places in Ireland, Northern Ireland, and places in the UK to mention.
Deep Kimchi, International Poster of Mystery.
I can just see you wearing that Mars symbol around your neck, all amulet style. The rest is safely unextracted from my imagination.

The *only* reason i EVER started saying that word (echo... echo... echo...) is because Prof. Farnsworth used it in one of the coolest examples of dialogue i've ever seen on the boob tube. *nods*
hahaha damn right! :p

I was in London over New Years. You have to go to the Churchill museum in the war room. It's a great exhibit.

You might run into my younger brother, who's there for 3 months. :)

Judging by the way our stereotypes of Americans are based on real facts, I'd say your defence sucks.

Sure it does. And citizens of the UK are renowned for what type of smiles? The stereotype has been there a long time. Is it true? In my experience it is.

I was really responding in kind. I dont adhere to stereotypes no matter how well known and widespread they are.

Deep Kimchi, International Poster of Mystery.
I can just see you wearing that Mars symbol around your neck, all amulet style. The rest is safely unextracted from my imagination.

Deep Kimchi, when he's in the US...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/disturbed.jpg

you also can't skip on a trip to stonehenge cos its fooking ancient (and cool!)
:

True, and if you go there, detour into Wiltshire and go to Salisbury and see the cathedral, i used to live near Salisbury and even though im not religous, it is a nice place to visit.

You then get to say you've seen the tallest spire in the UK.

Go to Kew Gardens. It's the nicest part of London.

If you get the chance, go to the Lakes, and the wall country. They are the most beautiful parts of england, bar none.

Wales is also very nice, but full of welsh, so best avoided. Same for the west coast of scotland.

Was in an office building near St. Paul's today, so I dropped by at lunch and looked around.

There's too much stuff to see, even if I stay here for a while.

Going to have to make a list and prioritize.

There's too much stuff to see, even if I stay here for a while.

An American's response on visiting the UK: You guys have too much history.

Deep Kimchi, when he's in the US...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/disturbed.jpg


anyone smiling while holding a rifle is scary.

Deep Kimchi, when he's in the US...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/disturbed.jpg
Okay, ya got me. Instead of the masculine amulet, you got a bandolier. :D
I've got an acquaintance who does those kinds of posters for a living, and he showed me the photobucket source he got 'em from ... he uses 'em for paintball promos on occasion (when he's not using his own pix - no royalties!)