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A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html

:eek:

Next thing you'll know they'll start arresting people for carrying stuff with them that resemble bombs! Like shoes, mail and banana's!

My image of america just keeps on getting weirder and weirder..

Thinks back that episode of the simpsons.

Homer: "First you get the suger, then you get the money, then you get the power, and then you get the women."

Thinks back that episode of the simpsons.

Homer: "First you get the suger, then you get the money, then you get the power, and then you get the women."


that's probably what that little kid was thinking

well when he said it was cocaine they had to arrest him and check it out. When they discover it was only sugar then they should just let him go. Charging him with possession of sugar? :rolleyes:

Wow... what can be said about this other than... jeez...

I guess they're charging him as a deterrant to other kids who bring sugar to shool in baggies and tell their friends that it's drugs as a joke? And a 12-year old? WTF?

I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.


Yeah, you'd be wrong. (Unless it's one of those stupid cop memorial days, when they dress up in their 'best' uniforms and have parades pretending that they are as brave as the dudes in WWI).

What a fucking waste of taxpayers money

Cops like that should take a pay cut (and DA's that prosicute it) for their idocy

What a fucking waste of taxpayers money

Cops like that should take a pay cut (and DA's that prosicute it) for their idocy

Make a UN reso about it :p .

What a fucking waste of taxpayers money

Cops like that should take a pay cut (and DA's that prosicute it) for their idocy


yeah In a time where there's not a lot of money we shouldn't be wasting it on trivial things like these

If he was 'pretending' it was drugs, that would be one thing. But for a science project, that clearly isn't the case.

A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html

What the hell is wrong with him!?! Wasabi is the way to go! Small, marketable quantities of wasabi sold to poor unsuspecting junkies, that'll learn em'!

A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html
Police having more important things to do than bust elementary school children for breaking imaginary laws? Never.

The look-alike substance was packaged like the actual narcotic, police said.
To spell it out: it was in a plastic bag. Listen, if we start treating every plastic bag like it was a drug container, GLAD would go out of business.

If he was 'pretending' it was drugs, that would be one thing. But for a science project, that clearly isn't the case.he did.
The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, said two other boys asked if the bag contained cocaine after he showed it to them in the bathroom Wednesday morning. The boy's mother said he told them it did, but then added, "just kidding."

A custodian witnessed the boys with the substance and took them to the school office where the Aurora Police school resource officer began an investigation.

the custodian who over heard that turned the kid in.

sad... but remember kids, don't even joke about having drugs.

I'm thankful they locked the kid up while they used high tech scientific analysis to determine that the suspected coke was in fact sugar.:rolleyes:

A blind man could tell the difference between coke and sugar. They couldnt determine that when they arrived at the school? Good grief...

What the hell is wrong with him!?! Wasabi is the way to go! Small, marketable quantities of wasabi sold to poor unsuspecting junkies, that'll learn em'!
That greenish color might tip them off.

Still, it does clear the sinuses. I think most coke heads would appreciate that.

You obviosuly haven't seen what sugar does to kids. A whole packet...the thought is too horrible to contemplate.

he did.

the custodian who over heard that turned the kid in.

sad... but remember kids, don't even joke about having drugs.

I could see a couple of days of detention or a short suspension, but come on, arresting him and charging him ? All I see that doing is turning another kid against the police and school for overreacting.

This reminds me of all those moronic cases of the secret service "detaining" school children for drawings they made of the shrub dying in various ways. Pointless idiocy and over-reaction, two things this country has become all too good at unfortunately.

Sweet.


But not very sweet for the kid, not very sweet for the kid at all.

Sweet for the police.

Sweet.


But not very sweet for the kid, not very sweet for the kid at all.

Sweet for the police.
Yeah, the police got to take a break from real, dangerous cases and got a whole bag of sugar. Go police.

Yeah, the police got to take a break from real, dangerous cases and got a whole bag of sugar. Go police.


LMAO

Yeah, the police got to take a break from real, dangerous cases and got a whole bag of sugar. Go police.

You saw that I was stretching out a pun, right?

In other news the employees and owners of a bakery have been charged with multiple counts of possession of sugar and flour with intent to distribute. They are facing possible life sentences.

Police say they've seized hundreds of pounds of the white stuff in that raid alone.

In other news the employees and owners of a bakery have been charged with multiple counts of possession of sugar and flour with intent to distribute. They are facing possible life sentences.

Police say they've seized hundreds of pounds of the white stuff in that raid alone.


here is a pic of the officer in charge of the bakery raid...
http://www.cardsquad.com/images/2005/10/wiggum.gif

Yeah, the police got to take a break from real, dangerous cases and got a whole bag of sugar. Go police.
maybe they ran out at HQ.

I've got a great picture of my husband while he was in college. We were making buckeyes (mmm... chocolately peanutbuttery goodness) for our fund raiser, and had bags and bags of powdered sugar. He stacked up the bags so you couldn't see the print, put on his bowler and sunglasses, and leaned menacingly on the bags. It's a great picture. He looks like a columbian drug lord. He would probably get arrested for it now, maybe I better burn the picture.

A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html


Actually it was a misdemeaner. Still it's a dumb arrest. The arresting officers should be identified so the public can lynch them them. I hope saying that dose not get me arrested.

EDIT: Where is the contact info so we can send angry letters to the school and
police agency?

I've got a great picture of my husband while he was in college. We were making buckeyes (mmm... chocolately peanutbuttery goodness) for our fund raiser, and had bags and bags of powdered sugar. He stacked up the bags so you couldn't see the print, put on his bowler and sunglasses, and leaned menacingly on the bags. It's a great picture. He looks like a columbian drug lord. He would probably get arrested for it now, maybe I better burn the picture.


instead of burning it, post it here ;)

CBS:

AURORA A 12-year-old boy who brought fake cocaine [translation: sugar] to an Aurora school has been charged with possessing a look-alike drug[translation:A crime we made up, because we couldn't find anything else to stick him with].

The sixth grade student at Waldo Middle School in Aurora also was suspended for two weeks from school after showing the bag to a classmate.

The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, told a classmate that he was bringin crack cocaine to school and later asked invited him into the school bathroom to try it. The look-alike substance was packaged like the actual narcotic, police said[translation: it was white stuff in a ziplock baggie, as we all know possession of ziplock bags are in violation of any drug-paraphenalia law made up by the plethora of ineffective legislatures in these states].

A custodian witnessed the boys with the substance and took them to the school office where the Aurora Police school resource officer[translation:Armed Police officer they keep in schools these days to crack down on the illegal use of sugar and ziplock bags in public schools] began an investigation[translation:An investigation the Three Stooges Detective Agency would have been proud of].

The youngster was taken to the police station and detained before being released to his parents that afternoon. He was charged with a misdemeanor.

Did I hear correctly that the sugar was being brought in for a specific class and the teacher in that class expected it to be brought in?
But that fact doesnt matter?

Did I hear correctly that the sugar was being brought in for a specific class and the teacher in that class expected it to be brought in?
But that fact doesnt matter?
It's a cooky, zero-tolerance world we live in today.

Did I hear correctly that the sugar was being brought in for a specific class and the teacher in that class expected it to be brought in?
But that fact doesnt matter?I believe tho, it's the fact that the child pretended it was drugs and that is what the custodian overheard.

A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html

The linked article says nothing about a science project.

It does say:

The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, told a classmate that he was bringin crack cocaine to school and later asked invited him into the school bathroom to try it. The look-alike substance was packaged like the actual narcotic, police said.

The linked article says nothing about a science project.

It does say:

The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, told a classmate that he was bringin crack cocaine to school and later asked invited him into the school bathroom to try it. The look-alike substance was packaged like the actual narcotic, police said.
:eek:
WTF!!! the article changed.

I quoted that article HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10423694&postcount=15) and that paragraph was changed drastically.

:eek:
WTF!!! the article changed.

I quoted that article HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10423694&postcount=15) and that paragraph was changed drastically.

Curious. The reporter/newsource is changing the story as we speak.

Curious. The reporter/newsource is changing the story as we speak.
>.>
<.<
Hmmmmm.....

perhaps they are finding more to the story? like the child lied about it being for a science project?

or is it to protect the police???

This is a first for me.

but powdered (confectioners') sugar is very dangerous, it makes a great ingredient to build a bomb, add some oxidant and you got a great explosive.

but powdered (confectioners') sugar is very dangerous, it makes a great ingredient to build a bomb, add some oxidant and you got a great explosive.
You can make a great model rocket engine propellant by mixing it with saltpeter and sulfur.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/city/2_1_AU12_KIDARREST_S1.htm

Boy who brought sugar to school faces lesser charge


By Matthew DeFour
Staff writer


AURORA — A 12-year-old Aurora boy arrested after bringing powdered sugar to school was charged with a misdemeanor — not a felony — count of possession of a look-alike substance, Aurora police said Saturday.

The sixth-grade student at Waldo Middle School, who is not identified because he is a minor, was charged Wednesday after telling a classmate that a bag of powdered sugar was crack cocaine and inviting him to a bathroom to ingest it, according to preliminary findings police released on Saturday.

When a custodian walked into the bathroom, he witnessed the two boys with a suspicious package and took them to the office where school administrators and the Aurora Police School Resource Officer began their investigation, police said.

During the investigation, the boy admitted that the day before the arrest, he told the classmate that he would be bringing crack cocaine to school, police said.

However, the boy's mother said Saturday her son maintains the incident was a joke.

The parents were not present for the interview with school officials, though the school attempted to contact the boy's family using an emergency contact card, police spokesman Dan Ferrelli said.

The boy, who was taken to the Aurora Police Department, was charged by the school resource officer and referred to Kane County Juvenile Court Services, Ferrelli added.

"The only reason we brought him back to the station was so that we could release him to his parents," Ferrelli said.

According to the boy, he brought the substance to school as part of a science experiment in which he was investigating why regular sugar sinks in water and powdered sugar floats, his mother said. His mother added that the boy was carrying the bag in his shoe at one point because he "thought it would be funny to play around."

The boy was suspended from school for two weeks.

On Friday, the Aurora Police Department referred questions on the status of the boy's case to Juvenile Court Services.

Juvenile Court Services, however, does not release specifics on individual cases, though Deputy Director Jeffrey Jefko said Friday that possession of a look-alike substance could be charged as a felony, carrying a penalty of up to five years' probation.

The 12-year-old in this case was only charged with a misdemeanor, Aurora police confirmed Saturday.

02/12/06

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/city/2_1_AU12_KIDARREST_S1.htm
A misdemeanor for a Juvie entails what exactly?

A misdemeanor for a Juvie entails what exactly?

For adults, misdemeanors carry a maximum punishment of a fine and less than one year of incarceration. Crimes for which a person may be punished by more than one year in jail or in prison are categorized in Illinois as felonies.

For a juvie, I bet we're talking probation or a fine at most.

EDIT: I was not being case specific above. This case may not even be prosecuted. If it is, we are probably talking probation and a suspended sentence. (Meaning the conviction goes away after probation). Maybe some community service, but I doubt it.

For adults, misdemeanors carry a maximum punishment of a fine and less than one year of incarceration. Crimes for which a person may be punished by more than one year in jail or in prison are categorized in Illinois as felonies.

For a juvie, I bet we're talking probation or a fine at most.

Yeah. That still seems a little bit ridiculous in light of what actually happened. Yes, the kid was being a bit of a dick, but still, when all the facts were discovered, this doesn't seem worth pursuing over and above his suspension.

Hell, a few weeks of detention would probably be the best punishment. The kid is only after all, a twelve year old.

A boy who brought powdered sugar to school has been arrested for felony possesion of a substance resembling drugs. The kid brought the sugar for a science project, but got busted anyway. I would think the police have more important things to do than arrest kids for possesion of sugar, but I may be wrong.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_042233323.html

At least the kid won't grow up with the illusion that his civil rights are respected.

At least the kid won't grow up with the illusion that his civil rights are respected.

Pray tell, what civil right was violated?

Yeah. That still seems a little bit ridiculous in light of what actually happened. Yes, the kid was being a bit of a dick, but still, when all the facts were discovered, this doesn't seem worth pursuing over and above his suspension.

Hell, a few weeks of detention would probably be the best punishment. The kid is only after all, a twelve year old.
That's why I'm kinda thinking "Scared Straight" tactics. a "Slap on the Wrist" and a bit of processing to throw the fear into him and hopefully this kid will think twice about drugs.

the key word is Hopefully.

I think that you all are being to flippant about this stuff. Powdered sugar is nothing to joke about, recent studies at the Univserity of Nanny State indicate that frequent users of sugar can develop Type 2 diabetes later in life and that if you rub alot of it in your eyes it really stings. We must protect the children!
They must be liberated from their freedom before they hurt themselves!

That's why I'm kinda thinking "Scared Straight" tactics. a "Slap on the Wrist" and a bit of processing to throw the fear into him and hopefully this kid will think twice about drugs.

the key word is Hopefully.

It's completely overblown. The kid was twelve and probably just copying shit he saw on TV.

I really think detention would get the message across, more than enough.

What a fucking waste of taxpayers money

Cops like that should take a pay cut (and DA's that prosicute it) for their idocy

Please remember, it is American schools that make those rules, and call the cops in to enforce them.

I'll bet the cops don't like it anymore than the kid does...

American schools are all about zero tolerance, zero thought.

Six year old boys suspended for "sexual harassment", students expelled for bringing plastic butter knives to eat their lunch with, child suspended for pointing a chicken "finger" at another student and saying "bang", etc etc etc.

The schools are teaching the kids to disrespect laws and adult judgement...:(

It's completely overblown. The kid was twelve and probably just copying shit he saw on TV.

I really think detention would get the message across, more than enough.

He was just bringing the sugar to school for science, and when other kids saw it, he joked that it was drugs.

Jokes are illegal in American schools, unless they are about President Bush or Republicans...:(

Am I the only one here that sees a misdemeanor charge as appropriate for the situation? There are several people that were complaining about cops surely having better things to do and I agree with them. Hassling kids with bags of sugar is pretty low on the priority list, but when there is information that it is claimed to be coke, then they have to investigate.

Granted, pulling a fire alarm is not the same as arson, but considering that authorities have to respond to both of them, a false alarm is definitely worth handing out a slap on the wrist for.

Am I the only one here that sees a misdemeanor charge as appropriate for the situation? There are several people that were complaining about cops surely having better things to do and I agree with them. Hassling kids with bags of sugar is pretty low on the priority list, but when there is information that it is claimed to be coke, then they have to investigate.

Granted, pulling a fire alarm is not the same as arson, but considering that authorities have to respond to both of them, a false alarm is definitely worth handing out a slap on the wrist for.
But when they went to investagate and found no illegal substances that should have been it.

Do we really need laws saying we not only cant have something but we cant have something that looks like the something we cant have?

But when they went to investagate and found no illegal substances that should have been it.

Do we really need laws saying we not only cant have something but we cant have something that looks like the something we cant have?

Actually, we have long had laws against look-a-like substances.

Think about it. Making people think you have real drugs can be dangerous -- particularly if they go to use them. And selling look-a-likes is really no different than selling the real stuff.

This kid was deliberately asking for trouble. He was carrying a rolled up baggy of white powder in his shoe, was telling people it was coke, and offered to let others try to coke. He was taken in to custody just until his parents showed up.

Actually, we have long had laws against look-a-like substances.

Think about it. Making people think you have real drugs can be dangerous -- particularly if they go to use them. And selling look-a-likes is really no different than selling the real stuff.

This kid was deliberately asking for trouble. He was carrying a rolled up baggy of white powder in his shoe, was telling people it was coke, and offered to let others try to coke. He was taken in to custody just until his parents showed up.
In a case of danger specialy sale I can see it again

But I have to wonder if a childhood prank should rize to this level

But when they went to investagate and found no illegal substances that should have been it.

Do we really need laws saying we not only cant have something but we cant have something that looks like the something we cant have?

Yes. What it comes down to is it detracts from legitimate law enforcement needs. Back to the fire alarm thing, because people can relate to that one to a degree. When someone pulls a fire alarm, emergency services have to respond to it. There may be some relief in getting there that it's not a real fire, but if there was a real fire somewhere else, this has just delayed them from being where they are most needed.

What it comes down to is law enforcement has to respond to potentially criminal situations. If it's one string of false alarms after another, there's going to be no telling what's worth responding to and what isn't and you have a situation simmilar to car alarms where everyone just ignores them.

Yes. What it comes down to is it detracts from legitimate law enforcement needs. Back to the fire alarm thing, because people can relate to that one to a degree. When someone pulls a fire alarm, emergency services have to respond to it. There may be some relief in getting there that it's not a real fire, but if there was a real fire somewhere else, this has just delayed them from being where they are most needed.

What it comes down to is law enforcement has to respond to potentially criminal situations. If it's one string of false alarms after another, there's going to be no telling what's worth responding to and what isn't and you have a situation simmilar to car alarms where everyone just ignores them.
Then fine him for reimbursement for their time (or in this case the parents)

In a case of danger specialy sale I can see it again

But I have to wonder if a childhood prank should rize to this level

What level? So far, all we have is a juvie misdemeanor arrest.

Then fine him for reimbursement for their time (or in this case the parents)

Who says that isn't what is going to happen? But to do that you have to charge him with something, which they've done.

What level? So far, all we have is a juvie misdemeanor arrest.
I guess to prosicuation ... I would rather (like excessive 911 callers) have his parents get a fine in the mail and be done with it ...

Way late edit:

I am not sure there should even be a fine. While law enforcement was called it was on resonable suspicion. But the fact of the matter is he did not intend to involve the police. Unlike when someone pulls the fire alarm or prank calls the police the logical consequence is that man hours will be wasted making sure it is a false lead
In that case a fine is Defiantly warranted.

But this kid was just bragging to hist friend ... yeah about drugs ... yeah it was stupid but it was not meant to involve or tie up rescue personnel.

Actually, we have long had laws against look-a-like substances.

Think about it. Making people think you have real drugs can be dangerous -- particularly if they go to use them. And selling look-a-likes is really no different than selling the real stuff.

This kid was deliberately asking for trouble. He was carrying a rolled up baggy of white powder in his shoe, was telling people it was coke, and offered to let others try to coke. He was taken in to custody just until his parents showed up.
you again with your logic.

You are right tho. He was saying it was a drug, then when the admin asked, he told them it was sugar...what were they going to do? smell it to see if he was telling the truth? there was no way for them to know without testing the powder


then again, who hasn't snorted a pixie-stick line? Or in my case, a crushed up placebo birth control pill (it was a really boring day in physics...okay?!)

K.D. Waldo Middle School

56 Jackson St.

Aurora, IL 60505

Yet another reason for home-schooling your children. I know mine aren't going to public schools.

My image of america just keeps on getting weirder and weirder..
That's sad. Try to keep in mind that the reason these wierd items wind up in the news is because they are the exception rather than the rule. The media only jump on things because they're unusual or wierd or strange.

Yes. What it comes down to is it detracts from legitimate law enforcement needs. Back to the fire alarm thing, because people can relate to that one to a degree. When someone pulls a fire alarm, emergency services have to respond to it. There may be some relief in getting there that it's not a real fire, but if there was a real fire somewhere else, this has just delayed them from being where they are most needed.

What it comes down to is law enforcement has to respond to potentially criminal situations. If it's one string of false alarms after another, there's going to be no telling what's worth responding to and what isn't and you have a situation simmilar to car alarms where everyone just ignores them.

Creating a legal situation where the appearance of wrong-doing itself becomes a chargable offense, is a dangerous precedent.

Creating a legal situation where the appearance of wrong-doing itself becomes a chargable offense, is a dangerous precedent.
I think so as well

This "war on drugs" is getting silly. Going for the easy catches while the real drug dealers swim in money.

Uh-oh. Does that mean I'll have to stop bringing potassium cyanide to school because people might mistake it for a drug? Yes, cyanide kills people, but at least it doesn't make them feel happy for a short time, when they might actually do something that makes them feel good about themselves for a short while, even if it ruins their lives...

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This reminds me of that episode of Family Guy when Brian was in rehab. Sad...