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So the story went like this: I decided to visit my old high school today, to return something, and to also see how the school is doing. What I seemed to have forgotten is how much I hated that school.

The entire place is plastic. The girls are getting younger, yet they are dressing sluttier than ever seen before. The boys are getting shorter each year, but they all try so hard to look "ghetto" in their sagged pants and bandannas and hats. It disgusts me.

what i ask of you now is this: Do you really trust our future to a bunch of children who will probably never grow up, and greet each other with "wat up, G"

Admit it. our world is doomed.

So the story went like this: I decided to visit my old high school today, to return something, and to also see how the school is doing. What I seemed to have forgotten is how much I hated that school.

The entire place is plastic. The girls are getting younger, yet they are dressing sluttier than ever seen before. The boys are getting shorter each year, but they all try so hard to look "ghetto" in their sagged pants and bandannas and hats. It disgusts me.

what i ask of you now is this: Do you really trust our future to a bunch of children who will probably never grow up, and greet each other with "wat up, G"

Admit it. our world is doomed.
Eventually, they will grow up.

After all, we did. ;)

Sup dawg.

It's probably that you've just grown out of that phase. When you went to high school people probably felt the same about you guys. They will to eventually. It's just part of growing up.

So the story went like this: I decided to visit my old high school today, to return something, and to also see how the school is doing. What I seemed to have forgotten is how much I hated that school.

The entire place is plastic. The girls are getting younger, yet they are dressing sluttier than ever seen before. The boys are getting shorter each year, but they all try so hard to look "ghetto" in their sagged pants and bandannas and hats. It disgusts me.

what i ask of you now is this: Do you really trust our future to a bunch of children who will probably never grow up, and greet each other with "wat up, G"

Admit it. our world is doomed.

D00M. ANGST. D00M. SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION UPON THOUGHT. D00M. ANGST. D00M.

Indeed, D00M.

A narrow cross section. I'm 14, and act nothing like that. Neither do most of my classmates. You have to take the broader view. Besides, tomorrow's leaders often are hormonal nutjobs today. *points to self*:p

Sup dawg.

It's probably that you've just grown out of that phase. When you went to high school people probably felt the same about you guys. They will to eventually. It's just part of growing up.

except for that fact that I am still IN high school. I could not stand that place any longer, so I had to switch away. and I know i'm not the only one in my age group feeling this way. do you really think 14-year-olds in tiny little skirts is right? Do you really feel 14-year-old boys constantly grabbing his balls in public is right?

It's just a phase. When I was in high school, everyone wore flannel. We all listened to GnR and Nirvana, and our parents said the world was doomed. This HS generation is all ghetto. Who knows what will be next.

I am just pissed because what passes for a standard girl's outfit today would have been deemed "hooker-ware" when I was young. I actually had to date a girl before I could see that much skin.

Kids always find ways of shaking the stablishment. I prefer plotting to take it over.

do you really think 14-year-olds in tiny little skirts is right? Do you really feel 14-year-old boys constantly grabbing his balls in public is right?

Whatever floats their boat. And I'm in high school to. But like I said, its just phases. Some grow out of them faster than others. All will eventually. Sooner or later life will catch up with them and they will have to make the mature choices, the right choices.

Kids always find ways of shaking the stablishment. I prefer plotting to take it over.

you know, a teenager ran society would be a lot more fun than the current state our world is in...for one, everybody would probably be mandatorily stoned. :P

you know, a teenager ran society would be a lot more fun than the current state our world is in...for one, everybody would probably be mandatorily stoned. :P

Weed is for immature kids who have no ambition in life.

Weed is for immature kids who have no ambition in life.

Mature people with ambition take coca instead. ;)

It's just a phase. When I was in high school, everyone wore flannel. We all listened to GnR and Nirvana, and our parents said the world was doomed. This HS generation is all ghetto. Who knows what will be next.

I am just pissed because what passes for a standard girl's outfit today would have been deemed "hooker-ware" when I was young. I actually had to date a girl before I could see that much skin.

I'm still in high school as well.

What do you mean by standard? I think the point our friend here is attempting to make is that we direct PURE RESENTMENT to those bimbling air-heads who make life so unbearably standard. What happened to the fun?

You mention you had to date a girl before you saw skin? This is because of the WOW factor. That needs to be had. Curiosity is needed. That alluring factor was that you can't see everything, thats what the imagination is for. However, times have changed, and now sex is as regular as a fat guy eating a hotdog.

People think it's disgusting that gays and lesbians have sex. However, for those parents, which is worse? That? Or your 6-year-old child aspiring to be Briteny or Christina? Your 11-year-old daughter wearing miniskirts and lacey black thongs.

I realize my rant is directed at females, but as it should be.

NOTE: This is not a flame, but a rant at society in general. Needs to straighten itself out. I'm stuck in the 'belly of the beast' and I don't like it. Not at all.

Weed is for immature kids who have no ambition in life.

or people who just want to have a bit of fun now and then. I'm not saying completely addicted to it is good, but the occasional stoned party spices things up quite well.

or people who just want to have a bit of fun now and then. I'm not saying completely addicted to it is good, but the occasional stoned party spices things up quite well.

Well my hallmates are getting kicked out of the college for it and they only smoked occasionally.

Mature people with ambition take coca instead. ;)

People with money take coke.

People with ambition drink vodka ;)

Well my hallmates are getting kicked out of the college for it and they only smoked occasionally.
doubtful unless you go to a puritanical school...I could see getting kicked out of housing, but rarely will they remove you for class because of things that are in no way related to academics.

Oh, and painting with a wide brush rarely works well.

Well my hallmates are getting kicked out of the college for it and they only smoked occasionally.

I'm thinking they either did it inside their dorm rooms/classrooms, or your government has really tight marijuana laws.

doubtful unless you go to a puritanical school...I could see getting kicked out of housing, but rarely will they remove you for class because of things that are in no way related to academics.

Oh, and painting with a wide brush rarely works well.

They gave the cops a hard time who were just going to confiscate the weed and put em on probation. Rather than facing expulsion they're going to withdraw and come back next semester.

Well my hallmates are getting kicked out of the college for it and they only smoked occasionally.

Must admit lady, my sister, in junior high, was kicked out of public school in Canada for having weed on her at school. I can't stand it. I don't understand the need for it at all (except medically, of course).

Whats wrong with saying "what up, G?" Back in the day, everyone said "Dude." Whatever. Slang is natural.

And maybe you should stop being so judgemental about their clothes. Just because someone dresses differently from you doesn't make it bad. My teacher used to wear tight jeans when he was a kid, never baggy. Why? Because it was easier to run from the cops that way. Given the reasoning behind it, I don't think that dress code is necessarily better, either.

Must admit lady, my sister, in junior high, was kicked out of public school in Canada for having weed on her at school. I can't stand it. I don't understand the need for it at all (except medically, of course).

This is why you don't bring illegal substances to school. nobody cares what you do in your spare time, but once these things are on school grounds, you get punished for just having it.

Well my hallmates are getting kicked out of the college for it and they only smoked occasionally.
Huh. That's funny. I smoked with both my RA and the RD in our dorms a couple years back at college. The worst they can do in, y'know, MOST EVERY University is to kick you out of the housing system, unless they're actually caught with the drugs.

Now, it's different with me. My parents, who are both successful and have provided us with an awesome lifestyle, have smoked pot since before my sister and I were born. It's no big deal. They set the rules, they follow the rules, no turmoil. It's more the people that assume that I'm out getting stoned and driving around and killing kittens and making my parents weep over their loss of control over me that piss me off.

Lastly....I only graduated high school a few years ago. Even going back to visit one of my teachers this year, I did kind of realize the same sort of thing -- the kids all seem younger, a lot more worse-off and generally just worrisome. But then I think back to when I was in that state and the kinds of things my older friends would say about kids my age, and realize.....it's not that this is how you probably see everybody in this generation, it's that it's how you see the ones you personally don't give a damn about. Because they're not in your favour, you're automatically inclined to assume the worst about their abilities and futures. Just because they're dressed poorly (and we have the ADULT population to blame for that, not the teens) doesn't mean they're any worse than any particular generation was at that age.

That's all I have.

Simonist']Huh. That's funny. I smoked with both my RA and the RD in our dorms a couple years back at college. The worst they can do in, y'know, MOST EVERY University is to kick you out of the housing system, unless they're actually caught with the drugs.

Now, it's different with me. My parents, who are both successful and have provided us with an awesome lifestyle, have smoked pot since before my sister and I were born. It's no big deal. They set the rules, they follow the rules, no turmoil. It's more the people that assume that I'm out getting stoned and driving around and killing kittens and making my parents weep over their loss of control over me that piss me off.

Lastly....I only graduated high school a few years ago. Even going back to visit one of my teachers this year, I did kind of realize the same sort of thing -- the kids all seem younger, a lot more worse-off and generally just worrisome. But then I think back to when I was in that state and the kinds of things my older friends would say about kids my age, and realize.....it's not that this is how you probably see everybody in this generation, it's that it's how you see the ones you personally don't give a damn about. Because they're not in your favour, you're automatically inclined to assume the worst about their abilities and futures. Just because they're dressed poorly (and we have the ADULT population to blame for that, not the teens) doesn't mean they're any worse than any particular generation was at that age.

That's all I have.

Bingo.

I wanted to take that statement out of the parenthetical prison it was in and let it out. Because it's true. Absentee parents or parents who see their children as a burden or an inconvenience raise kids who, rudderless, have one hell of a lot harder time finding their way and usually pass through far more "phases" than those with active parental involvement. High school teacher talking, and I know it's true -- those kids who had parents who gave a shit were invariably my best students. And as I've ascended slightly to the collegiate teaching ranks, it's still true.

They gave the cops a hard time who were just going to confiscate the weed and put em on probation. Rather than facing expulsion they're going to withdraw and come back next semester.
ah...seems more a case of "you're an idiot" (not you..I mean them) than "you do drugs"

Bingo.

I wanted to take that statement out of the parenthetical prison it was in and let it out. Because it's true. Absentee parents or parents who see their children as a burden or an inconvenience raise kids who, rudderless, have one hell of a lot harder time finding their way and usually pass through far more "phases" than those with active parental involvement. High school teacher talking, and I know it's true -- those kids who had parents who gave a shit were invariably my best students. And as I've ascended slightly to the collegiate teaching ranks, it's still true.
Glad somebody else really caught on to that, because I feared I didn't make the point well enough. My parents always used to enjoy that my sister and I "turned out so well", but it wasn't until the past few years that I realized the key difference between my peers and myself -- I'm friends with my parents.

Must admit lady, my sister, in junior high, was kicked out of public school in Canada for having weed on her at school. I can't stand it. I don't understand the need for it at all (except medically, of course).


Who gives a rats ass if you understand it or not? There are shitloads of tokers in the world and always will be too. Just because it isn't socially acceptable like alchohol is doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Alchohol is much more harmful than cannabis could ever be, in fact cannabis has been proven to have healthful benefits to certain kinds of patients, hence the reasoning for the prescribing of medical marijuana. In British Columbia, allthough not legal, it isn't exactly enforced and you might at most get a simple ticket for possesion. In the gestapo like United States most states will land you mandatory jail time. The U.S. jailed 700,000+ people in 2005 alone, 86% were for simple possesion. Great way to spend tax payer money isn't it? :rolleyes:

Bingo.

I wanted to take that statement out of the parenthetical prison it was in and let it out. Because it's true. Absentee parents or parents who see their children as a burden or an inconvenience raise kids who, rudderless, have one hell of a lot harder time finding their way and usually pass through far more "phases" than those with active parental involvement. High school teacher talking, and I know it's true -- those kids who had parents who gave a shit were invariably my best students. And as I've ascended slightly to the collegiate teaching ranks, it's still true.

I hope to Buddha that isn't the case for all of your students. My parents certaintely didn't give a shit. That's why, however geeky and pathetic it may sound, I'm living with my grandmother. After 16 years of putting up with crap, I still managed to get through school with above-average grades...while living internationally. Changing schools every couple of years. Not a big deal, right? Not that I'm bitter, but I would like credit for what I've accomplished, not for what my "parents" didn't do for me.

Whats wrong with saying "what up, G?" Back in the day, everyone said "Dude." Whatever. Slang is natural.

And maybe you should stop being so judgemental about their clothes. Just because someone dresses differently from you doesn't make it bad. My teacher used to wear tight jeans when he was a kid, never baggy. Why? Because it was easier to run from the cops that way. Given the reasoning behind it, I don't think that dress code is necessarily better, either.

What? Tight jeans are incredibly difficult to run away from the cops in

weird in my 8th grade class all the girls are all "prepy" or "goth" and stuff.
But yeah taking over all living things is my goal. tell me if you want to join me in my evil plot! :D :D :D :D :D

weird in my 8th grade class all the girls are all "prepy" or "goth" and stuff.
But yeah taking over all living things is my goal. tell me if you want to join me in my evil plot! :D :D :D :D :D

That is commonly known as emo, an 8th grade phenomenon.

Simonist']... key difference between my peers and myself -- I'm friends with my parents.

iam to...and let me tell you my life is so much easyer this way, i look at all of my so called "mature" friends. Every time they talk to there parents they yell at them or call there mom a ho or a bich; and then they ask me why their parents dont ever want them to do anything and ground them or take their carkeys and licence.
it makes me want to hit them up side the head and say grow up!

What? Tight jeans are incredibly difficult to run away from the cops in


Man has a point. :D

It's true that the behaviour of children are often affected by their parents, but it's not always true. It's possible to have horrid parents and still grow up to make something of yourself, just like it's very possible to have everything you might need in a family, and still reject the love your parents give you just because you want to feel sorry for yourself.

...wait...i knew i had a point here somewhere...i think it's gone into hiding now. Oh well.

Your point explains itself, professed in the words you have carefully typed.

Your point explains itself, professed in the words you have carefully typed.

so what is my point? :confused:

so what is my point? :confused:

Your point is that you build your own fate, based on the decisions you have made in life.

Idiot 1~"It's the Dr. Phil era man, like, dude, get with the program. We ain't, like, blaming our parents and shit like that anymore. Homie G, we are cooool dude."

Idiot 2~"I, like, so hear you man. No man, I can, like, feel you...."

Idiot 1~"Like, shut up man. Freakin' perv."

Idiot 2~"Don't call me a perv man. Yo' mamma a perv."

Idiot 1~"Don't you be callin' ma mamma no perv man! Don't be dissin' or you'll be kissin' ma knuckles bro!"

Idiot 2~"Bring it, like, on biatch!"

*bitch-slap bitch-slap*

Idiot 1~"Man, that shit was phat!"

Idiot 2~"Who you callin' fat man? Yo mamma fat!"

...And continued into oblivion...

Saying that all teenagers walk around saying "wat up G?" is a pretty serious generalization. In my school of roughly 2500, only about 50 in the 9th and 10th grades only are like that....and even then THEY'RE the ones who get the crap beat out of them...by the normal ones. "Hey man." and "what's up?" are the real everyday greetings. Most teenagers I know are actually very close on the border of fully-functional citizens in society.

Realize that the ones that immitate rappers are, in fact, the minority.

Saying that all teenagers walk around saying "wat up G?" is a pretty serious generalization. In my school of roughly 2500, only about 50 in the 9th and 10th grades only are like that....and even then THEY'RE the ones who get the crap beat out of them...by the normal ones. "Hey man." and "what's up?" are the real everyday greetings. Most teenagers I know are actually very close on the border of fully-functional citizens in society.

Realize that the ones that immitate rappers are, in fact, the minority.

I think part of the problem here is which society you live in. What with political propaganda, freedom, and who the heck knows what else, things tend to be a little different depending on where you live. And for outsiders; to immerse into an alien community is an odd and difficult experience. Hence, we have social ruts such as 'wiggers', 'twinkies', and 'coconuts'.

And then there are those who allow this to continue. In fact, endorse it. Shame on them. *sigh*

So the story went like this: I decided to visit my old high school today, to return something, and to also see how the school is doing. What I seemed to have forgotten is how much I hated that school.

The entire place is plastic. The girls are getting younger, yet they are dressing sluttier than ever seen before. The boys are getting shorter each year, but they all try so hard to look "ghetto" in their sagged pants and bandannas and hats. It disgusts me.

what i ask of you now is this: Do you really trust our future to a bunch of children who will probably never grow up, and greet each other with "wat up, G"

Admit it. our world is doomed.
I think that now in school...but G will end up Donald Trump...

\Realize that the ones that immitate rappers are, in fact, the minority.
Its because they are the stupidest, most noticable ones. The 2% (random number) idiot rate tends to be what reflects on an entire generation.

And I say "dude."

It's pretty bad where I live. Picture a bunch of white, Christian, rich, snobby, ignorant kids "acting black". It's really pathetic. One thing that I've noticed is that a good number of kids have those iPods and they put only one earpeace in and they have it in constantly. Again, the whole area has it's head up it's ass.

The entire place is plastic. The girls are getting younger, yet they are dressing sluttier than ever seen before. The boys are getting shorter each year, but they all try so hard to look "ghetto" in their sagged pants and bandannas and hats. It disgusts me.
Admit it. our world is doomed.

Well, yea, I'm pretty damn short. But the baggy and sagged pants things don't really apply where I grow up. Looking hard is hardly what anyone looks like here! If your familiar with hott topic, the store, I think you'll get the idea. Not all of us high school kids are like that, just depends where you grow up.

...a good number of kids have those iPods and they put only one earpiece in and they have it in constantly. Again, the whole area has it's head up it's ass.

There is nothing wrong with that...

I do agree with you on your first point. The school I go to (if anyone pays attention to high school football, our team won state last year in 2004/early 2005) is located in the suburbia of Cincinnati. The majority of the people are white, christian, republican, Germans or German-Irish. There is one of those "You know that you go to ________ when..." lists, and one of my favorite ones is "You know that you go to Colerain High school when there are more white people who pretend to be black than their are black people."

Simonist]... key difference between my peers and myself -- I'm friends with my parents.

I completely agree with you on this. I'm not only friends with my parents, but I'm friends with the friends of my parents as well. I was also home-schooled until my high school years (I'm now a senior in high school) and so that gave me a lot of time to get to know my parents. I still get a long with adults easier than I do students my own age, but this allows me to be more mature and not be held back by and vogues and such.

i feel that i should clear up a few points, since my opening post did not say everything because i was trying to make it short.

1) I by no means say this kind of behaviour is the kind that every teenager does. It is that at this particular school, sitting in the middle of a white suburbia, that has a population of 90% white teenagers trying to be black. i was merely trying to comment on this phenomina (sp?)

2) i do not judge people on how they dress. In fact, if they actually like the kind of things they are wearing, then good for them. It only pisses me off when it's obvious that they are only dressing this way because it's "in" and "cool". Whatever happened to the rebellious age we are supposed to be in where everybody's supposed to have independent thoughts and beliefs, or did that die with the mass manifesto of cable TV and the internet?

those are just my thoughts. i am not trying to generalize an age group.

What? Tight jeans are incredibly difficult to run away from the cops in

How is baggy any good either? They'd fall down to your ankles if you move to fast. :D

How is baggy any good either? They'd fall down to your ankles if you move to fast. :D

Has anyone noticed boys starting to wear girl pants? At my school, I'd say about 1/3 of the male population turning to tight, flared girl pants, and I think I'd take baggy over that any day.

Whatever happened to the rebellious age we are supposed to be in where everybody's supposed to have independent thoughts and beliefs, or did that die with the mass manifesto of cable TV and the internet?

Independence? HAHA. Joke of the week goes to the Lady.

Its because they are the stupidest, most noticable ones. The 2% (random number) idiot rate tends to be what reflects on an entire generation.

And I say "dude."

I don't think this generation of idiot kids is any stupider than any other generation of idiot kids. Just a bit older than they have been historically. "Teenagers" have always been hot-headed, but now they have less to do than they used to, so they can put a lot more of their energy into their idiocy.

And I still say "dude" too.

And I still say "dude" too.

How about "man"?

How about "man"?

Dude, I say "man" too. And "yo" and "sup" and "groovy" and any number of other various-decade slangisms.

Kids were saying "wut up G" when I was in high school in '89 - have things not changed since then? We all turned out ok. I am more worried about the killer kids out there than stupid slang words.

D00M. ANGST. D00M. SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION UPON THOUGHT. D00M. ANGST. D00M.

Indeed, D00M.
Ahh.. Yes. D00M. Good call.

I believe they actually stay the same age its you that is getting older, the required age to attend school hasnt changed much, if ever.

Wasn't today, as in yesterday, Sunday? School on a sunday? Oh.. its tuesday.. welll.. nevermind.

I went to VoTech for programming for the first 2 MPs, I come back to here and everyone is a skater with long hair. No ghettoness.. but there are sluts.

Strange, in my school it's all Skater/Mosh/Emo with a few Chavs thrown in...

C'mon, seriously, the newer generation is still far more spoiled than mine was.

I never had a cellphone until I was an adult, and there are kids with cellphones and credit cards. Don't tell me shit about how teenagers are the same; the newest generation is seriously messed up. Sure, there are the good ones, but, they don't travel in crowds and they aren't the assholes who dress like the little sluts and rappers their pretend to be.

C'mon, seriously, the newer generation is still far more spoiled than mine was.

I never had a cellphone until I was an adult, and there are kids with cellphones and credit cards. Don't tell me shit about how teenagers are the same; the newest generation is seriously messed up. Sure, there are the good ones, but, they don't travel in crowds and they aren't the assholes who dress like the little sluts and rappers their pretend to be.
I bet you had a walkman though, and whatever was the cutting edge f technology at your time. Just because where keeping up with the times dosn't mean wehre delinquents.

Sigh,
I feel old compared to my age. I'm 19 by the way.

I get annoyed by guys who say dude, what up g...g...isn't that a formal and respectful way to greet a person who is Hindu? Still it's annoying. I find baggy pants on guys vey unattractive. If a person cannot speak proper english to me I tend to not listen to them after a while. While I might dress up and try and be a bit seductive, I never dressed so slutty that the guys thought they would "get some" on a first date.

I know there are more humans out there like me who hate the way many teens have managed to get us stereotyped as degenerates. There is hope for the human race, I swear it.

And to the person who didn't like the guys wearing girls pants...Guys in tight jeans are amazingly hot.

Weed is for immature kids who have no ambition in life.

Not that you happen to be prone to generalising in the slightest.

Strange, in my school it's all Skater/Mosh/Emo with a few Chavs thrown in...

Unfortunately mine bears no resemblance to that....:)

Unfortunately mine bears no resemblance to that....:)
Why, whats yours like?