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I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?

I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?

Very subjective, and generally a conjunction of several factors, all then applied in a context.

Something we can only answer for ourselves.

Very subjective, and generally a conjunction of several factors, all then applied in a context.

Yeah, well put. Different stuff for different people. You've heard that "there's someone for everyone." Well. There ye go!

I've no idea.

Or we could go with my obvious answer: Huw
:p

Seriously though, it's the frustrating but true answer - it changes for everyone and some aspects of it (the best aspects IMO) are undefineable anyway.

In my world, this (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=6904914&imageID=41849410&Mytoken=9270ABE1-F2D7-C7B2-67DCF4611DB2E38E30808104) is attractive.

Sigh. Boyfriend. But he's physically appealing, he's got a great sense of humour (morbid/sarcastic, like mine), he's not over-sensitive, and he's willing to push me around just enough to make me do what's best for myself, as well as not being a pushover. Add his intellect to that and it's a perfect mix, in my eyes.

'Course it doesn't help that someday we might be making great money, but I'm gonna live my life with him even if that's not the case.

I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?
That's really a matter of opinion, and the answer is different for everyone.

For example, I might find dead Siamese cats attractive, while someone else would look upon them as repulsive. (Not saying that I actually do commit necrophilia with animals, of course. ;)) Nothing is automatically attractive, due to differing opinions.

(Oh, and I have yet to see an attractive $20 bill, so that's out...)

Being deep and not immediately judging others. Everything else is just a bonus :D

I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?


Four types of attraction for a successful relationship =

Physical attraction
Intellectual attraction
Emotional attraction
Spiritual attraction

You need all 4 to make a relationship truly work long term.

(Oh, and I have yet to see an attractive $20 bill, so that's out...)
That's 'cause you've never seen my $20 bill....

I've no idea.

Or we could go with my obvious answer: Huw
:p

Seriously though, it's the frustrating but true answer - it changes for everyone and some aspects of it (the best aspects IMO) are undefineable anyway.
awwwwwwwwww :p :fluffle:

i could go with the obvious answer and say Amy (*cough* (http://www.hlj.me.uk/amy/PB240002mini.jpg))
but i think if i were to try and quantify it, i'd say attractiveness is a combination of inside and outside: outside beauty is important in physical attraction, but there's more to it than that. personally, i find intelligence very attractive, as with a sense of humour... and mild insanity (hence why i find amy so attractive :D)
and then there's the issue of just understanding each other on an emotional/other level... its attractive but not in such an immediate way as the others

*wonders if anyone finds this attractive*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/PAY5353/Wilgrove/DSCF0014.jpg

For me, it's actually all personality. How you ask? Well physical appearance means little. But if the girl has the personality and confidence, she can look absolutely stunning, just because she..."radiates", if that makes any sense.

That is the girl I look for. Someone who is confident, humorous, intelligent and engaging. If a girl can be all that, she is beautiful in my eyes.

*wonders if anyone finds this attractive*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/PAY5353/Wilgrove/DSCF0014.jpg

Am I missing something here?:confused:

Am I missing something here?:confused:

nope.

I like girls with a flat stomach, hot ass and firm boobs. :)

Boobs don't have to be big, but firmness and shape are important. :)

A smile will raise a woman 3 points.

*wonders if anyone finds this attractive*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/PAY5353/Wilgrove/DSCF0014.jpg

I don't like the sweat stain on the T-Shirt.

I don't like the sweat stain on the T-Shirt.

Eh, that was after my bi-annual flight review, trust me the stuff the FAA guys put you through in the air will make you sweat.

I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?

Attractiveness is about pleasing-ness.
Some people are pleased by money so they find it attractive.

Some like Intelligence: I like my girls to have a brain (though if she meets enough criteria, i'll let it slide)

I like cuteness (not all girls have very much of it.) Most girls seem to try for prettiness or sexiness; forgetting cuteness.

I group beauty in many ways:
1. Beauty (read inner beauty) is personality and how they act.
2. Cuteness: Can't be described easily. Just a kind of look that is wonderful. Mandy Moore had this for a while.
3. Pretty: What most girls try for.
4. Sexy: How hot they are. Unrelated to pretty; but most people don't care.
I'm probably missing a few ways.

And that was just beauty.

What type of beauty are you refering to?
It is partly subjective based on answers.

Attractive is the millions of years of evolution-propogated instinct telling you (or more like whispering in your ear) the best [companion/mate/sexual candidate] in so far as having and raising children to promote the human race. It is encoded in you the in the same ways that makes sugar taste good and crap smell bad. instinct.

awwwwwwwwww :p :fluffle:

i could go with the obvious answer and say Amy (*cough* (http://www.hlj.me.uk/amy/PB240002mini.jpg))
but i think if i were to try and quantify it, i'd say attractiveness is a combination of inside and outside: outside beauty is important in physical attraction, but there's more to it than that. personally, i find intelligence very attractive, as with a sense of humour... and mild insanity (hence why i find amy so attractive :D)
and then there's the issue of just understanding each other on an emotional/other level... its attractive but not in such an immediate way as the others
lol! :D :fluffle:

See, I can list various stuff I find attractive but something's different with you... Because I love you my attraction to you is on a whole new level which I can't describe or explain. I feel a whole bunch of things when I look at pictures of you (and will feel them even more so when I look at you tomorrow - hurrah!) and there's this need to be with you... I'll shut up before I go on a ramble :P

*cough* (http://usera.imagecave.com/neon_golden/Photo-0027-copy.jpg) think I must have caught that cough... :P

For me, it's actually all personality. How you ask? Well physical appearance means little. But if the girl has the personality and confidence, she can look absolutely stunning, just because she..."radiates", if that makes any sense.

That is the girl I look for. Someone who is confident, humorous, intelligent and engaging. If a girl can be all that, she is beautiful in my eyes.
Not that looks don't matter at all, but I agree with what you mean. Personality can add or take away a whole lot of attractiveness without referring to physical appearance at all.

lol! :D :fluffle:

See, I can list various stuff I find attractive but something's different with you... Because I love you my attraction to you is on a whole new level which I can't describe or explain. I feel a whole bunch of things when I look at pictures of you (and will feel them even more so when I look at you tomorrow - hurrah!) and there's this need to be with you... I'll shut up before I go on a ramble :P

*cough* (http://usera.imagecave.com/neon_golden/Photo-0027-copy.jpg) think I must have caught that cough... :P
oh no ramble all you like :p :fluffle:
but i know what you mean... but i'd say thats a function of love more than simply attraction... but then maybe i'm subcompartmentalising things again (damn its that logic peeking its head up again ;))


and i don't like that pic too much... bah... you seem to like it so thats ok :D

oh no ramble all you like :p :fluffle:
but i know what you mean... but i'd say thats a function of love more than simply attraction... but then maybe i'm subcompartmentalising things again (damn its that logic peeking its head up again ;))


and i don't like that pic too much... bah... you seem to like it so thats ok :D
"peeking it's head up again"... ahahahaha :P

....aaanyway - I'd say it's all part of the same thing. Love makes attraction grow and be true on more levels *nods*

:eek: how can you not like that picture?! tis my favourite picture *nods* :P

*finishes hi-jacking thread*

and i don't like that pic too much... bah... you seem to like it so thats ok :D
Lol, you both look like such English people. I can't point out why. Might be the 800 years of oppression in your eyes.

Attractiveness is about pleasing-ness.
Some people are pleased by money so they find it attractive.

Some like Intelligence: I like my girls to have a brain (though if she meets enough criteria, i'll let it slide)

I like cuteness (not all girls have very much of it.) Most girls seem to try for prettiness or sexiness; forgetting cuteness.

I group beauty in many ways:
1. Beauty (read inner beauty) is personality and how they act.
2. Cuteness: Can't be described easily. Just a kind of look that is wonderful. Mandy Moore had this for a while.
3. Pretty: What most girls try for.
4. Sexy: How hot they are. Unrelated to pretty; but most people don't care.
I'm probably missing a few ways.

And that was just beauty.

What type of beauty are you refering to?
It is partly subjective based on answers.


Any kind, really...
I don't really know why I'm asking this. I think, at some point I thought I might be attractive. And then I lost that somehow...
I'm not making any sense, sorry.

"peeking it's head up again"... ahahahaha :P

....aaanyway - I'd say it's all part of the same thing. Love makes attraction grow and be true on more levels *nods*

:eek: how can you not like that picture?! tis my favourite picture *nods* :P

*finishes hi-jacking thread*

hahaha i thought you'd appreciate that one :D

and i agree... i don't know - its an issue i don't think you can understand really and my head hurts just thinking about it :p
(i don't know... just don't like the picture... you know i don't generally like pics of myself :P)

Lol, you both look like such English people. I can't point out why. Might be the 800 years of oppression in your eyes.
lol! :p

well for the record i'm mostly celt/welsh (inbred with english maybe, sure) and the other half german/polish... so in theory not a drop of english blood in these veins :D

I think ultimately attractiveness boils down to that understanding between two people that they 'get' each other. There are plenty of hot women out there, but what always gets me is the smile and twinkle in their eye... kills me.

And yes, by the smile and twinkle definition, I realize I'm admitting my Santa Claus fetish... leave me alone.

According to my trusty National Geographic, it has to do with the differences in your genetic code. You feel love for peope who will very likely have different immunities from you, therefore enhancing the long-term survival of species/offspring.

But hey, what does science know?

For me, it's actually all personality. How you ask? Well physical appearance means little. But if the girl has the personality and confidence, she can look absolutely stunning, just because she..."radiates", if that makes any sense.

That is the girl I look for. Someone who is confident, humorous, intelligent and engaging. If a girl can be all that, she is beautiful in my eyes.

I once thought as you do. But after a few goes at each, I would much rather screw someone with a tight body and a cute face than someone with a great personality and an average body. Obviously I would prefer the personality and the body. but thats out of my league.

Attractiveness is as simple in human relationships as it is in science. Magnets attract because of a charge imbalance (one positive one negative). Ions form molecules for a similar reason. Each of the two needs something from the other.

The difference, as I see it, is that in people, there can be any number of needs from one (pure sexual need, for example), to as many as can be imagined. The more of the needs that two people meet for one another, and the more those needs are in balance, the more likely that pairing is to work.

Now that doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy a relationship in which only a few or even one need is being met -- it's the awareness and the balance that counts. If one person needs the other for only one thing but the other needs the first for several things, that pairing is out of balance and will, given enough time or proximity, explode. So long as everyone in the relationship is informed of everyone else's feelings or needs or intent, the risk of being hurt should be minimal (which means it still hurts, but far less if you can see it coming).

D'zat make sense?

I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?

This is a question that really can't go answered. In my eyes nothing is more beautiful then sacrificing one's life for another. Especially if the person they die for is someone they absolutely hate.

Are there different levels of attractiveness then?

I hope m love of God makes me attractive.

I dont know who said it, but the quote was "in all beauty is a little strangeness" or something close to that.

Having worked at a nightclub for several years, a strange thing happened. I lost my sense of ugly. Before you laugh, let me explain. It no longer matters what people look like to me. I generally dont notice ugliness. People just are. Also, I come to the conclusion that beauty has a peak too(I call this 'peak oil of olay'). After a certain point, you can only say, yeah, shes incredibly beautiful... but I cant rank em anymore. There is no scale. I think the two are related..

Ok, time for another beauty quote. I love em.

"beauty is only skin deep, ugly goes right to the bone."

I dont tell women that they are beautiful, cute, lovely, or anything like that anymore. What I say is "You are interesting to look at." or "I enjoy looking at you." This renders them a compliment, but leaves them wondering just the same. I like to believe it makes me a little more interesting too. "interesting to look at" just might mean funny looking.

Proclaiming their beauty puts them in a spot to either be modest, and deny it(which harms their self esteem), or conceited, say "i know" and well....

Best thing to do if someone complements you directly like that is to say "thank you" and thats it.

Are there different levels of attractiveness then?
Attractiveness isn't beauty. Beauty is what makes us take a long good look at something. Its something we remember years later. It stops us in our tracks and wholly envelops us in the moment, the here and now. We are lost in our own world for a eye-blink.

Attractiveness, to me, isn't so much physical beauty. Sure, people are hot. I can only enjoy hotness for some time though, after a while, it goes away if there's nothing behind it. I want something more than just a good frame, a tight canvas, and an appealing blend of colours. I want the picture to mean something. There has to be something there. The same with people.

Like Notaxia, I've lost the will to put a rule to "beauty" or "ugly". Things are only so, I can't explain why, its the way I look upon the world. Attrativeness on the other hand is compatability between two people. Its a combination of the body, mind, and soul and its something only two people can judge. Its strong, or weak. It is so, or it is not so. There is no good way to judge it. Right now, I got a whole basket full of "not so" after I though I had "this is fantastic". Its quite "meh" as I like to say. But, you just gotta hold on, and keep trukin' with the hope that one day you'll get that groovy feelin' from somebody.

After all, shit is attractive to flies. I don't think your only looking for "attractivness."

what is attractive? the gratification of creating and exploring attract me. oh you were refurring perhaps in an amourous sense, this being saint love's day and all? well a genuine reciprocation of affection without codependent smotheringness is probably the best i can describe it. is physical appearance a factor? sure, at least as far as erotic fantasies are concerned, but otherwise, if it is it's only one among many or at leas several. what several? the certainly the several i've already mentioned.

perhapse this is why i love mechanical objects, little furry creatures with big sharp teeth, and nature in general. and why i like being 'alone' as much as i like being 'with' someone or some several, however much i at times find gratification in the latter as well.

=^^=
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I know whining isn't.
I know what beauty is, but is beauty automatically attractive?
Is intelligence? Money?
None of these seem to really work for me...
What is attractive?
I have high standards what I look for in a woman.
The inclination to talk to me being perhaps the most important.

What is attractive?What?! You know what is - The fantastic TSw!!

Seriously though, quit worrying about these things & go take advantage of someone who's attracted to you for a while. Mr. Right will find you eventually, the important thing is to have fun until it happens.

the answer is clearly lip rings >(

but i like guys that are kind of mean and mischevious around other people but sweet around me O: it's cute. and people who are fun and funny. a sense of humor is probably number one. if you're not funny you're NOTHING with me D:<

What?! You know what is - The fantastic TSw!!

Seriously though, quit worrying about these things & go take advantage of someone who's attracted to you for a while. Mr. Right will find you eventually, the important thing is to have fun until it happens.

Whining, sad and tired as I am at the moment? Even if somebody was attrackted to me right now, I wouldn't have the energy.
But thanks for the advice :fluffle:

Whining, sad and tired as I am at the moment? Even if somebody was attrackted to me right now, I wouldn't have the energy.
But thanks for the advice :fluffle:

you should have the energy...there is almost a solution...

but the answer I have to this thread :
to be nice is not even attractive
to be rich, beautyful, horny, wise, famous is not even attractive...
attractiveness is something only you could judge in your own mind.
I can show 1000 people pictures of other people and everyone decide on his/her own way what is attractive or not...
Example : in a thread long ago, i have posted, that I do not think Alyssa Milano is attractive... Other NSer´s thought that she is the most attractive girl in the world...

So take your own choice !!!

Confidence is attractive. Not to be confused with arrogance.

I find nothing to be attractive. Well, not nothing in the sense of something missing but nothing in the sense of being able to see the potential in a person or situation. In such a case, it's not a matter of the world being attractive to me, but developing a life condition where I am attracted to the world. There's the struggle, but also the reward.

There's a lot of ways to be attractive, and most women have several. I know some that are physically attractive, some that aren't, and some that are both physically and mentally attractive (woot!). It doesn't matter so much though, since they're all fun people. It helps that I'm just interested in platonic relationships right now. :)