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Yes, any word or phrase can become a slur...

Deep Kimchi
13-02-2006, 23:03
"Brokeback Mountain", a good movie about two homosexuals and their inability to put their lives together, is now officially a slur.

http://www.kirotv.com/sports/7011667/detail.html?rss=sea&psp=sports

SPOKANE, Wash. -- Fans of No. 5 Gonzaga have been asked to stop yelling "Brokeback Mountain" at opposing players.

The reference to the recent movie about homosexual cowboys was chanted by some fans during Monday's game against Saint Mary's, and is apparently intended to suggest an opposing player is gay.
Vetalia
13-02-2006, 23:05
For some reason, I find this to be an amusing lesson in human nature. Never underestimate the ability of people to turn even the most innocuous phrase in to a slur or insult.
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:05
Hey that was a damn good movie. *shakes fist at anyone who says otherwise*
Sinuhue
13-02-2006, 23:05
It will soon be shortened to 'Brokeback'.
Deep Kimchi
13-02-2006, 23:07
Hey that was a damn good movie. *shakes fist at anyone who says otherwise*
I found it was more a love story than a story about homosexuals.

If the two characters had been a man and a woman, in ancient times, committing adultery, they would have suffered from the same climate of fear and the same inability to make their relationship really open.
Bolol
13-02-2006, 23:08
Once again, the large and dumb prove that they can take something with potential and turn it into something offensive...

Actually it happened recently to an aquaintence. He went to see "Walk the Line" and there was a trailer for "Brokeback Mountain". Out of the blue, the chump next to him yelled, "Hey, is that the movie about the faggots?"

*sigh*

My "aquaintence" then proceeded to spin-kick him through the wall, just for being that stupid.
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:09
I found it was more a love story than a story about homosexuals.

If the two characters had been a man and a woman, in ancient times, committing adultery, they would have suffered from the same climate of fear and the same inability to make their relationship really open.


Gay or straight, I appreciate a good love story. I also appreciate Heath and Jake in jeans and cowboy hats.
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:12
I prefer the term "honky", myself. Anyone know the origin? Honky-tonk? What more is there to it?
Brokeback honky ... whoa, am i gonna get deated for that?
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:12
Gay or straight, I appreciate a good love story. I also appreciate Heath and Jake in jeans and cowboy hats.

One pounded by the other. That film seems to have it all.
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:12
Gay or straight, I appreciate a good love story. I also appreciate Heath and Jake in jeans and cowboy hats.

yeah, but- in the same pair of jeans?
Sinuhue
13-02-2006, 23:12
Gay or straight, I appreciate a good love story. I also appreciate Heath and Jake in jeans and cowboy hats.
*fans herself* I concur. I don't care if the tight ass in those tight jeans belongs to a gay man or not...I'm still going to feast my eyes on the delicious sight. Why oh WHY didn't they cast Orlando Bloom and Heath though? Now THAT would've been truly worthy of unmentionable acts committed in a dark theatre.
Man in Black
13-02-2006, 23:13
It will soon be shortened to 'Brokeback'.
Too late. I play an online FPS game, and when someone is messing up, or not being a "team player" someone ussually pops up with "quit being a f****** brokeback!"
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:13
I prefer the term "honky", myself.

What's "honky?"
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:13
One pounded by the other. That film seems to have it all.Hey, didn't they switch places and such? You're not being fair. You're implying dominance and submission where there was (reasonably) mutual respect and capability. Shame on you.
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:14
yeah, but- in the same pair of jeans?

Heaths jeans, Jakes jeans, my jeans.......
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:15
What's "honky?"
That's my question, pardner!
:D
Seriously, it was all over the 70's. I still really don't know how it started, and i'm a bit nostalgic about it. The word alone just cracks me up.
Nosas
13-02-2006, 23:15
I found it was more a love story than a story about homosexuals.

If the two characters had been a man and a woman, in ancient times, committing adultery, they would have suffered from the same climate of fear and the same inability to make their relationship really open.

I am against adultry so that makes sound worse.

But, the worse part is it makes South Park character Cartman look like a seer or a prophet.

He prophecied that this movie would be made: "Foreign films are are just about gay cowboys eating pudding."
And lo, it was so. And much sound and noise was made about that film.
Man in Black
13-02-2006, 23:15
What's "honky?"
It's a term some black people use for whites, ussually of the redneck nature.

It's use has been somewhat limited, compared to cracker though.
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:15
Heaths jeans, Jakes jeans, my jeans.......


I'd like to see your jeans....
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:16
Hey, didn't they switch places and such? You're not being fair. You're implying dominance and submission where there was (reasonably) mutual respect and capability. Shame on you.

I haven't seen the film yet, so I don't know. However, submission and dominance are much more sexually pleasing than "mutual respect and capability."
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:16
It's a term some black people use for whites, ussually of the redneck nature.

It's use has been somewhat limited, compared to cracker though.

Is it pejorative? Is it percieved as such? Does it offend?
Sinuhue
13-02-2006, 23:17
However, submission and dominance are much more sexually pleasing than "mutual respect and capability."
Thank you. That needed to be said.
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:17
I'd like to see your jeans....


I'll show you mine if you show me yours........
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:18
I haven't seen the film yet, so I don't know. However, submission and dominance are much more sexually pleasing than "mutual respect and capability."
Do you mean,
...with your pardner?
...on a regular basis?
...with a casual acquaintance?
...for $ or a one night stand?
...or for any given sexual encounter?
:confused:
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:19
Is it pejorative? Is it percieved as such? Does it offend?
These days, not really. It makes me laugh, specifically.
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:19
Thank you. That needed to be said.

yeah- nothing takes the hope outta yer rope quicker than two people politely deferring to which end of the stick they'll be on.
Man in Black
13-02-2006, 23:19
Is it pejorative? Is it percieved as such? Does it offend?
It's SUPPOSED to be offensive, however to me personally, it cracks me up when I get called it. Same with cracker. It's about as offensive to me as it would be to you if I called you gay.
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:20
Thank you. That needed to be said.

Everyone needs to be ravaged and have their brains fucked out every now and then. I'd much rather have that than "respect." Please. They can stuff that where the sun don't shine, and I'll stuff something a lot more pleasurable.
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:21
I'll show you mine if you show me yours........

I bet you say that to all the boys.

"It was a hot summer night...."


I was actually going to say I wanna see your jeans in tatters, dangling from my ceiling fan
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:21
Do you mean,
...with your pardner?
...on a regular basis?
...with a casual acquaintance?
...for $ or a one night stand?
...or for any given sexual encounter?
:confused:

All of the above. And beyond. Well, maybe not for "$." At least not for me.
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:22
yeah- nothing takes the hope outta yer rope quicker than two people politely deferring to which end of the stick they'll be on.
Some use a coin, some use a choke-hold.
Speaking of rope ... tee hee. The lasso foreplay. :D
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:22
Everyone needs to be ravaged and have their brains fucked out every now and then. I'd much rather have that than "respect." Please. They can stuff that where the sun don't shine, and I'll stuff something a lot more pleasurable.


"now and then" really means "daily".

I know of two people in here right now that are already well aware of this.
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:23
"now and then" really means "daily".

I know of two people in here right now that are already well aware of this.

you and who else?
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:25
you and who else?

its safe to say you're a definate, right?


I have to run -my wife is submitting so often, I'm spoiled. Lamb for dinner again-second time in a week.
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:26
It's SUPPOSED to be offensive, however to me personally, it cracks me up when I get called it. Same with cracker. It's about as offensive to me as it would be to you if I called you gay.
Can i call you "Honky" then, from now on (or "Honky in Black") (!)
:D *please say "yes"*
It's okay, JuNii is now "Mr. Plow"
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:28
All of the above. And beyond. Well, maybe not for "$." At least not for me.
Hmmm ....
respect =/= $ ?
Peechland
13-02-2006, 23:28
its safe to say you're a definate, right?


I have to run -my wife is submitting so often, I'm spoiled. Lamb for dinner again-second time in a week.


yeah yeah, I knew you meant Sin and I. ....run along and have your lamb and if youre nice I'll wear jeans tomorrow.
Man in Black
13-02-2006, 23:30
Can i call you "Honky" then, from now on (or "Honky in Black") (!)
:D *please say "yes"*
It's okay, JuNii is now "Mr. Plow"
Of course! It would be my honor! :D
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:31
yeah yeah, I knew you meant Sin and I. ....run along and have your lamb and if youre nice I'll wear jeans tomorrow.



I dont know that Sin needs it that often...?

Me "nice" ?

If I run into you tommorrow, you wont be wearing them very long. *lick*
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:31
Of course! It would be my honor! :D
Granted. *bows*
Of course, you know this means i'm not liable to argue with you nearly as much.
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:32
Hmmm ....
respect =/= $ ?

I doesn't equal respect, but I'm just a slut. I'm not a whore.
Sinuhue
13-02-2006, 23:34
I dont know that Sin needs it that often...? You see, he meant Peech and Fass:(

I tend to be a 'binge' type personality when it comes to sex. So I guess Carn's got me right.
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:35
I doesn't equal respect, but I'm just a slut. I'm not a whore.
Ah, i see now. Makes sense.
*nods*
Carnivorous Lickers
13-02-2006, 23:36
You see, he meant Peech and Fass:(

I tend to be a 'binge' type personality when it comes to sex. So I guess Carn's got me right.


No matter how things go, I'm never wrong.

later
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:37
Ah, i see now. Makes sense.
*nods*

Even in lechery there are morals.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-02-2006, 23:39
oh man, everyone posting in this thread are being so deep kimchi.

I Carnivorous Lickers in your general direction

yeah? well Man in Black to you too you big piece of Sumamba Buwhan
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:41
Even in lechery there are morals.
I imagine Quills rubbed you the right way, then? :D
(seriously, i dug the flick)
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:43
oh man, everyone posting in this thread are being so deep kimchi.

I Carnivorous Lickers in your general direction

yeah? well Man in Black to you too you big piece of Sumamba Buwhan
What are you Straughning on about?
And it's Honky in Black. Don't forget that.
Daein
13-02-2006, 23:43
You Spoony Bard!
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:43
I imagine Quills rubbed you the right way, then? :D
(seriously, i dug the flick)

I never saw it. I can't stand Geoffrey Rush.
Straughn
13-02-2006, 23:48
I never saw it. I can't stand Geoffrey Rush.
As in the Pirates of The Caribbean Rush? Or one of the others?
'cuz he does a particularly fitting job in Quills. *nods*
Worth it for that.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-02-2006, 23:49
I imagine Quills rubbed you the right way, then? :D
(seriously, i dug the flick)


Awesome movie!
Sumamba Buwhan
13-02-2006, 23:50
What are you Straughning on about?
And it's Honky in Black. Don't forget that.

I'm just Fassing ya :p ;) :D
Fass
13-02-2006, 23:51
As in the Pirates of The Caribbean Rush? Or one of the others?
'cuz he does a particularly fitting job in Quills. *nods*
Worth it for that.

I've hated him in evey roll he's had. He just gives me the creeps. Marquis de Sade didn't - he did.
Man in Black
13-02-2006, 23:58
Granted. *bows*
Of course, you know this means i'm not liable to argue with you nearly as much.
Somehow, I'm sure we'll fnd a way! :D
Straughn
14-02-2006, 00:00
Somehow, I'm sure we'll fnd a way! :D
No we won't!
:eek:
My mod, what am i saying?!? *sobs*
Straughn
14-02-2006, 00:00
Awesome movie!
Seconded!
Straughn
14-02-2006, 00:02
I've hated him in evey roll he's had. He just gives me the creeps. Marquis de Sade didn't - he did.
What about Philip Seymour Hoffman, then? (theory)

EDIT:BTW, i think Rush was a love interest (and a relatively normal one at that) in one movie *other than Quills, of course* :eek:
Straughn
14-02-2006, 00:03
I'm just Fassing ya :p ;) :D
:eek:
Only for $. That kind of respect you're gonna have to purchase ... :D
Man in Black
14-02-2006, 00:04
No we won't!
:eek:
My mod, what am i saying?!? *sobs*
*pats Straughn on the head*

There there. I'm right, and your wrong. Do you feel better now? :D
Notaxia
14-02-2006, 00:14
yeah- nothing takes the hope outta yer rope quicker than two people politely deferring to which end of the stick they'll be on.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/ThreeFingerPete/Misc/Goofy_Gophers.png
"please, be my guest!"
"Oh no, I must insist, you must go first!"
Straughn
14-02-2006, 04:57
*pats Straughn on the head*

There there. I'm right, and your wrong. Do you feel better now? :D
You knew i'd lose it sooner or later, Honky. I thought i'd be a bigger man ... *sobs again*


EDIT: Argh, i mean, Honky in Black. Moddamn i'm all flustered now!
Straughn
14-02-2006, 05:08
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/ThreeFingerPete/Misc/Goofy_Gophers.png
"please, be my guest!"
"Oh no, I must insist, you must go first!"
WTH? Seeing two gophers being so accomodating is A MAJOR turn-on!
Sheesh, y'all got no class ...
Liverbreath
14-02-2006, 05:58
I prefer the term "honky", myself. Anyone know the origin? Honky-tonk? What more is there to it?
Brokeback honky ... whoa, am i gonna get deated for that?

Honky is a term derived from the ethnic nickname of Hunky, a self description by 2nd generation Hungarian and Yogosalvian working class individuals living in close knit ethnic neighborhoods that usually bordered or intermixed with black neighborhoods. Honkey became the equivilent and counter slur to the term ******, however, neither carried the offensive language taboo's of today's PC parinoid population. In short, Honkey is now any white person.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 06:09
Honky is a term derived from the ethnic nickname of Hunky, a self description by 2nd generation Hungarian and Yogosalvian working class individuals living in close knit ethnic neighborhoods that usually bordered or intermixed with black neighborhoods. Honkey became the equivilent and counter slur to the term ******, however, neither carried the offensive language taboo's of today's PC parinoid population. In short, Honkey is now any white person.
Wow. Thank you! I pretty much grew up on that term, thinking it was largely meaning something else!
*bows*
Liverbreath
14-02-2006, 06:17
Wow. Thank you! I pretty much grew up on that term, thinking it was largely meaning something else!
*bows*
Nicknames and slang in general tend to have a life of their own, many of which get lost to time unless of course you have lived long enough to remember their origon. It just so happened that I grew up in one of those neighborhoods where nicknames for each others ethnic groups didn't mean a thing.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 06:31
Nicknames and slang in general tend to have a life of their own, many of which get lost to time unless of course you have lived long enough to remember their origon. It just so happened that I grew up in one of those neighborhoods where nicknames for each others ethnic groups didn't mean a thing.
...it kind of prompts me, though, to wonder why you chose the nom de plume, Liverbreath?
Liverbreath
14-02-2006, 07:51
...it kind of prompts me, though, to wonder why you chose the nom de plume, Liverbreath?

Have you ever heard of the online game called "A Tale in the Desert"? If not it is a goal oriented civilization game that requires a larger degree of smarts, and a high degree of mutual cooperation between players than most others. One of the goals that lead to the greater good is marriage. The downside to marriage is that there is no such thing as divorce and your partner literally gains access your your persona and account. They can actually log on under your name. Needless to say, there was a vast ocean of people looking to talk someone into the marriage ceremony.
"Liverbreath" was derived as my attempt to name myself something so disgusting that it would minimize the number of proposals I would recieve on a daily basis. It actually seemed to work for awhile, but later as my claim on Egypt grew it worked against me because it was so easy to remember. If you like that sort of game I recommend it, but there is a large time investment in it and there is no war, killing, shooting or things of that nature.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 09:51
Have you ever heard of the online game called "A Tale in the Desert"? If not it is a goal oriented civilization game that requires a larger degree of smarts, and a high degree of mutual cooperation between players than most others. One of the goals that lead to the greater good is marriage. The downside to marriage is that there is no such thing as divorce and your partner literally gains access your your persona and account. They can actually log on under your name. Needless to say, there was a vast ocean of people looking to talk someone into the marriage ceremony.
"Liverbreath" was derived as my attempt to name myself something so disgusting that it would minimize the number of proposals I would recieve on a daily basis. It actually seemed to work for awhile, but later as my claim on Egypt grew it worked against me because it was so easy to remember. If you like that sort of game I recommend it, but there is a large time investment in it and there is no war, killing, shooting or things of that nature.
Ah! No, i haven't heard of the game, but that's a pretty good strategy. The closest thing i know to it is Fable, where the only way out of your marriage is abuse (or at least that's the way the guy showing it to me made it seem).
And, to prove some point i don't remember making myself, his gf took over the controls (as he was shorn) and got his male character to marry & conjugate with a man. Then came the abuse. She said the best part of that little ditty was the sound effects. ( :eek: ) She must've liked 'em a lot, 'cuz she did it 2 more times before i left.
Thanks for indulging me, btw. *bows*
Carnivorous Lickers
14-02-2006, 15:27
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a213/ThreeFingerPete/Misc/Goofy_Gophers.png
"please, be my guest!"
"Oh no, I must insist, you must go first!"


Thats great! I never expected to have an illustration with my comment.

Thanks
Liverbreath
14-02-2006, 18:48
Ah! No, i haven't heard of the game, but that's a pretty good strategy. The closest thing i know to it is Fable, where the only way out of your marriage is abuse (or at least that's the way the guy showing it to me made it seem).
And, to prove some point i don't remember making myself, his gf took over the controls (as he was shorn) and got his male character to marry & conjugate with a man. Then came the abuse. She said the best part of that little ditty was the sound effects. ( :eek: ) She must've liked 'em a lot, 'cuz she did it 2 more times before i left.
Thanks for indulging me, btw. *bows*

Fable huh! I've never played the remake of it, but I really liked the origonal version. It was a game way ahead of it's time and funny as it could be. Brits made great games and Fenwick was absolute genius. I will have to see if the newer version carries on the same degree of wit and exploration.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 19:47
Fable huh! I've never played the remake of it, but I really liked the origonal version. It was a game way ahead of it's time and funny as it could be. Brits made great games and Fenwick was absolute genius. I will have to see if the newer version carries on the same degree of wit and exploration.
Certainly has an angle of exploration about it ... and kicking chickens (wit?), but i can't say much more than that. The guy was planning on qualifying his evil alignment with a few acts so that he could engage some spells, and then he had to get his haircut - so then his gf took over and turned the game into aggrevated buggery *shrug*.
"Oh, gosh!"
Pantygraigwen
14-02-2006, 19:48
"Brokeback Mountain", a good movie about two homosexuals and their inability to put their lives together, is now officially a slur.

http://www.kirotv.com/sports/7011667/detail.html?rss=sea&psp=sports

The worst slur on earth is "ginger"

<covers head>
Anarchic Conceptions
14-02-2006, 19:54
If the two characters had been a man and a woman, in ancient times, committing adultery, they would have suffered from the same climate of fear and the same inability to make their relationship really open.

Hasn't that been done?

Similarly it could have been done in Wales, but it wasn't.

btw, didn't the two look after sheep, which would make them shepherd not cowboys? No I haven't seen the film.
Pantygraigwen
14-02-2006, 19:57
Hasn't that been done?

Similarly it could have been done in Wales, but it wasn't.

btw, didn't the two look after sheep, which would make them shepherd not cowboys? No I haven't seen the film.

It was done in Wales, about a welshman and a welsh jewess having to hide their love affair. "Solomon and Gynor" i believe, nominated for best foreign language oscar about three/four years back.

Brokeback Mountain looks terribly tedious and worthy, to be honest. Unless there's things blowing up in it, i won't go see it.
Anarchic Conceptions
14-02-2006, 20:03
It was done in Wales, about a welshman and a welsh jewess having to hide their love affair. "Solomon and Gynor" i believe, nominated for best foreign language oscar about three/four years back.

Oh yes, I remember hearing about that.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 20:03
The worst slur on earth is "ginger"

<covers head>
Brokeback gingerbread honky?
Pantygraigwen
14-02-2006, 20:05
Brokeback gingerbread honky?

Thems fighting words where i come from, so i'll just go call out ma ginger brother, ma ginger dad and ma ginger sister (and she's scarier than the lot of us) and we'll meet you and your posse at a venue of your choice...

;)
BackwoodsSquatches
14-02-2006, 20:17
I prefer the term "honky", myself. Anyone know the origin? Honky-tonk? What more is there to it?
Brokeback honky ... whoa, am i gonna get deated for that?


You may enjoy "The racial slur database".

Google it. not hard to find.
Even some good ones for "whitey", and thats not easy to do.
Very funny.

As for Brokeback.....I enjoy taking the piss out of anything, and everything, so this doesnt worry me too much.
If asshole people want to use it as an insult, they can only offend those willing to be offended.
Straughn
14-02-2006, 20:22
Thems fighting words where i come from, so i'll just go call out ma ginger brother, ma ginger dad and ma ginger sister (and she's scarier than the lot of us) and we'll meet you and your posse at a venue of your choice...

;)
Funny, fightin' words where i come from are more like,
"Be honest. Do you think these heels compliment my shapely calves?"
and
"Your turn in the barrel."
and
"How many times to i have to tell you, that ISN'T edible!"

Anyway, sure, how 'bout a get together .... what about IHOP?
Straughn
14-02-2006, 20:24
You may enjoy "The racial slur database".

Google it. not hard to find.
Even some good ones for "whitey", and thats not easy to do.
Very funny.

As for Brokeback.....I enjoy taking the piss out of anything, and everything, so this doesnt worry me too much.
If asshole people want to use it as an insult, they can only offend those willing to be offended.
Righto! *bows*