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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, his spokeswoman said Sunday.

Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong.

Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.

Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, said the vice president was with Whittington, a lawyer from Austin, Texas, and his wife at the hospital on Sunday afternoon.


OMG he is an 3v1l Nazi!121!!! He shot an old man!

But seriously..I wonder if it was really an "accident" :p

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????
http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/quail.jpg

accident my ass

OMG he is an 3v1l Nazi!121!!! He shot an old man!

But seriously..I wonder if it was really an "accident" :p
I wonder what he did after? Probably just grumbled, put down his shotgun and went back to his cave to play with his precious ring.

..with a shotgun. couldn't it have been a pistol or something mortal? then we'd never see him again..

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????
http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/quail.jpg

accident my ass


That's what i am saying...must be some big ass quail

Well we all know it wasn't an accident..If it was the shock would of hit him so hard, his heart would have imploded.

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????Yes, actually, you do.

That's what i am saying...must be some big ass quail


...or maybe it was Dan Quayle hunting season


Yes, actually, you do.

but wouldn't a rifle do justice? a shotgun seems too messy. they're too small.

but wouldn't a rifle do justice? a shotgun seems too messy. they're too small.
shotguns make it easier, because bird hunters are lazy.

...or maybe it was Dan Quayle hunting season


lol...that'd be something funny to see..Dan Quayle shot by Vice President Cheney...jeez...

shotguns make it easier, because bird hunters are lazy.

Does that make Cheney lazy??

lol...that'd be something funny to see..Dan Quayle shot by Vice President Cheney...jeez...

would anyone notice if Cheney shot Quayle? Cheney would be a hero.

Does that make Cheney lazy??

of course. :D

of course. :D

Well at least now we have proof of it.

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????
http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/quail.jpg

accident my ass
Shotguns are very versatile weapons--The term 'Shot' referes to the pellet load in the shell--A 'BUckSHot' shell is made to bring down a buck--
Most standard bird shot is hardly intimidating--The ONLY way to hunt foul is with a shotgun--the velocity of a hunting rilfe round would turn the bird into paste.
Not to mention, hitting the bird properly.

I could shoot you with a load of bird shot at 30 meters and you would laugh, and ask for some tweezers.

My concern is that Cheney's hunting partner had to be close--at close range bird shot can inflict horrible if superficial damage to a person.

I suppose thats what you get going hunting with a politician.
Shot in the back.
I wonder if he has checked his wallet yet.

This is why even though I never hunted quail, pheasants and other such birds, why i approve of it; Accidents. These are probably the hunters most likely to accidentally shoot eachother. Makes me happy.

I know what some of you might be thinking; 'Wow. How cold and heartless!' Not at all. I am not hoping the hunters die. I am merely glad that an activity likethat is properly risky. After all, it's not like the birds themselves can fight back. :p

But there are laws against negligence in hunting. I wonder if this will be blown all out of proportion by the Democrat.


...Nah. :p

This is why even though I never hunted quail, pheasants and other such birds, why i approve of it; Accidents. These are probably the hunters most likely to accidentally shoot eachother. Makes me happy.

I know what some of you might be thinking; 'Wow. How cold and heartless!' Not at all. I am not hoping the hunters die. I am merely glad that an activity likethat is properly risky. After all, it's not like the birds themselves can fight back. :p


Youre not cold and heartless, because I totally agree with you. Go after something your own size.

So...will there be an investigation?

Another reason for which no one should have firearms... firearms are not toys, they are weapons. Tools of murder.

Armstrong said Whittington was mostly injured on his right side, with the pellets hitting his cheek, neck and chest, and was taken to the hospital by ambulance.


Ouch.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????

accident my ass
Accident my ass is right. Even dipshit hunters wouldn't be able to pull something like this off.

Another reason for which no one should have firearms... firearms are not toys, they are weapons. Tools of murder.

Would it make you feel better if the man was shot with an arrow?

Another reason for which no one should have firearms... firearms are not toys, they are weapons. Tools of murder.


firearms are toys and kids love em

http://www.usip.org/events/images/2003/sleone_gun.jpg

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????
http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/quail.jpg

accident my ass

You don't shoot the quail point blank, you use the spray pattern in order to hit them, and it's still difficult.

You sure as hell don't use a rifle. Bitch to hit and would destroy most if not all of the meat.

accident my ass
If Cheney had decided to play the msot dangerous game, he wouldn't have gone after the man with birdshot, he'd have used a couple barrels proper 12 gauge buckshot.
As much as you all may find it hard to believe, this shit happens all the time. Back when I lived in Ass End of the Woods, Virginia, we had two or three accidents every deer season (and a fatality every couple years). Hell, you'd even have a lot of people defending the hunter, accusing the victim of wearing white in the woods, etc.
Shit happens to everyone, there is nothing sinister about it.

You don't shoot the quail point blank, you use the spray pattern in order to hit them, and it's still difficult.

You sure as hell don't use a rifle. Bitch to hit and would destroy most if not all of the meat.
The last reported quail hunt that was conducted with a rifle was by Annie Oakley. She would shoot the heads off, so the meat wasn't ruined.

Well we all know it wasn't an accident..If it was the shock would of hit him so hard, his heart would have imploded.

Or maybe he has no heart. Was probaby replaced with clockwork parts...

Ouch.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

"And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good."
Hehe.

Accident my ass is right. Even dipshit hunters wouldn't be able to pull something like this off.

Mistaking a dog in a fenced in yard for a deer and shooting its jaw off.

Mistaking a child playing in the woods near its house for a deer and killing him/her.

That's why anyone with any sense teaches their children not to shoot unless they've got a confirmation as to what they're actually shooting at.

The last reported quail hunt that was conducted with a rifle was by Annie Oakley. She would shoot the heads off, so the meat wasn't ruined.

Your point being?

Mistaking a dog in a fenced in yard for a deer and shooting its jaw off.

Mistaking a child playing in the woods near its house for a deer and killing him/her.

That's why anyone with any sense teaches their children not to shoot unless they've got a confirmation as to what they're actually shooting at.
Those are different situations.

Your point being?


point is you can use a rifle

Your point being?
Just that quail have been hunted with a rifle, but not very often.

I was serious when I asked: Will the police investigate this incident? Shouldn't it, like, matter if some dude shoots some other dude?

If Cheney had decided to play the msot dangerous game, he wouldn't have gone after the man with birdshot, he'd have used a couple barrels proper 12 gauge buckshot.
As much as you all may find it hard to believe, this shit happens all the time. Back when I lived in Ass End of the Woods, Virginia, we had two or three accidents every deer season (and a fatality every couple years). Hell, you'd even have a lot of people defending the hunter, accusing the victim of wearing white in the woods, etc.
Shit happens to everyone, there is nothing sinister about it.


Hey...We know what really happened...it was really a liberal conspiracy to make cheney look bad:rolleyes:

I was serious when I asked: Will the police investigate this incident? Shouldn't it, like, matter if some dude shoots some other dude?


It doesn't seem to be that way.

Or maybe he has no heart. Was probaby replaced with clockwork parts...


Yeah I hear he is really a robot...With the soul of satan controlling him..

Yeah I hear he is really a robot...With the soul of satan controlling him..

*hides Atari joystick*


Huh? What?

Now thats just ridiculous!

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>.>

about!

As a "Dipshit" hunter, I'm amazed at the level of ignorance exhibited by this thread so far. According to statistics, hunting is much safer than football, skiing, snowboarding, driving a car, and any number of other activities we engage in on a daily basis. Regarding Dick Cheney, he should have known better and SHAME ON HIM!! Regarding talking crap SHAME ON MOST OF YOU!

*hides Atari joystick*


Huh? What?

Now thats just ridiculous!

<.<

>.>


what is the one button on the joystick for then hmmm?

Hey...We know what really happened...it was really a liberal conspiracy to make cheney look bad:rolleyes:
No, it was a minor hunting accident. Anyone who read the articles would notice things like their comment about the man "not getting any in his eye."
Now, if he had been seriously hurt (as everyone seems to be assuming), do you really think they'd care about getting any in his eye? When a man is set on fire, no one says "Well, it's a good thing he didn't get any propane in his eyes. That stuff can sting"? No, they say "a man has serious burns over 90% of his body and may well die."
Finally, allow me to point out that Hollywood shotguns are incredibly exaggerated. Even a 12 gauge with buckshot won't pull off most of the stuff you see in action movies, and this man was shot with birdshot (which means there is a chance the shotgun was only a 16 gauge) on accident.
I doubt this will matter, as the man shot will probably not press charges, and I doubt it will count as a big enough deal for the police to prosecute anyway.

Those are different situations.

True, but someone who is antsy with a trigger could just whirl around, thinking that a covey had been flushed and *BAMPH* right into the shoulder/face/chest.

My dad when he was young once hunted with a guy, and never again, who one had to be very careful to avoid being between him and whatever he decided to shoot at next...

what is the one button on the joystick for then hmmm?


Simple..When pressured you press the button and cheney will do something random..Like have a heart attack...or shoot someone

Simple..When pressured you press the button and cheney will do something random..Like have a heart attack...or shoot someone


I was hoping it was the self destruct button ;)

point is you can use a rifle

If you're a semi-mythic figure and you have reflexes that are superfluous to the most efficient way of the task.

Not to mention you need the right terrain in order to see them before they're flushed.

I was hoping it was the self destruct button ;)


:D

Neat! Someone look it up ... is this a Vice Presidential first?

what is the one button on the joystick for then hmmm?

Cloaking device. :)

Neat! Someone look it up ... is this a Vice Presidential first?

Nope. Aaron Burr, the second Vice-President of the United States shot and killed Alexander Hamilton, the first Treasurer of the United States in a duel.

Neat! Someone look it up ... is this a Vice Presidential first?


Well if you are an ultra conspiracist..You'd say that LBJ used a magic invisible rifle to kill kennedy.

Nope. Aaron Burr, the second Vice-President of the United States shot and killed Alexander Hamilton, the first Treasurer of the United States in a duel.


Oh yeah i forgot about that one.

Nope. Aaron Burr, the second Vice-President of the United States shot and killed Alexander Hamilton, the first Treasurer of the United States in a duel.
Those were the good old days: When two gentlemen could wander into the woods, and when only one of them ever came out alive, people just accepted it.
Now they have all these "investigations" and "criminal hearings" that you gotta deal with. So uncivilized.

I was serious when I asked: Will the police investigate this incident? Shouldn't it, like, matter if some dude shoots some other dude?
No way! It was an accident. It's just like car accidents. Do those get investigated? No th- oh wait. I don't know specifically, but do police normally investigate this type of thing? Hunter dudes, anyone know?

Wedding Crashers anyone? :p

You have fun hitting the small bird with a rifle.

Wedding Crashers anyone? :p

You have fun hitting the small bird with a rifle.


Lmao...I love that movie..."Yeah he died in a hang glidding accident. What an idiot!"

No way! It was an accident. It's just like car accidents. Do those get investigated? No th- oh wait. I don't know specifically, but do police normally investigate this type of thing? Hunter dudes, anyone know?

Having never accidentally shot anyone, been shot by anyone, nor knowing anyone who has either accidentally shot someone or been shot by someone, I can safely say, My no know.

.

but wouldn't a rifle do justice? a shotgun seems too messy. they're too small.


You do not use a rifle while hunting birds. Most likely he was using a 410 shotgun or maybe a 20 gauge. His buddy will be fine I'm sure. Can this be an accident. Of course it can, hunting accidents happen frequently.

Those were the good old days: When two gentlemen could wander into the woods, and when only one of them ever came out alive, people just accepted it.
Now they have all these "investigations" and "criminal hearings" that you gotta deal with. So uncivilized.

I blame the insurance companies. *nod*

i would like to sea some sources cited vefore i take this anywhere.
i am perfectly ok with beleiving he ould do this... but i would like to se a relaible web page.

i would like to sea some sources cited vefore i take this anywhere.
i am perfectly ok with beleiving he ould do this... but i would like to se a relaible web page.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

Cnn is reliable,no?

i would like to sea some sources cited vefore i take this anywhere.
i am perfectly ok with beleiving he ould do this... but i would like to se a relaible web page.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html


Haha...i beat you :p

That's what i am saying...must be some big ass quail
That was no quail...it was Quailman
http://www.beautiful-illusion.net/images/quailman.jpg

Haha...i beat you :p

Want to go hunt some quail with me? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, his spokeswoman said Sunday.

Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong.

Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.

Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, said the vice president was with Whittington, a lawyer from Austin, Texas, and his wife at the hospital on Sunday afternoon.
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident)

ZOMG Cheney purposefully tried to kill someone!!! He is teh evil, and so are demonic guns!!! RepubliKKKans must be stopped now!!111
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:D

funny funny funny...

I come on Cheney he's wearing an orange vest! I don't think anything in the wild is bright orange!! And now we know why Cheney isn't fighting in Iraq.

Intelligence reports at the time indicated that that man had a cache of quails under his vest. Quayle's action was preemptive hunting.

Intelligence reports at the time indicated that that man had a cache of quails under his vest. Quayle's action was preemptive hunting.

very nice...

funny funny funny...

I come on Cheney he's wearing an orange vest! I don't think anything in the wild is bright orange!! And now we know why Cheney isn't fighting in Iraq.
Actually, that would be attributed to him being a vindictive, evil, manipulative coward, easily enough ...
or, his status as recipient of the "Lifetime Deferrment Award".
Besides, he's not done making Halliburton and the oil folks megabillionaires while getting his cut.

I like how they try to make it out to be the other guys fault:

Whittington "came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn't signal them or indicate to them or announce himself," Armstrong said.

"The vice president didn't see him," she continued. "The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good."

Is a neocon ever personally responsible for anything?

THIS WAS A THREAD EARLIER IN THE DAY. LOOK AROUND. YOU'LL SEE IT.

:p

I like how they try to make it out to be the other guys fault:



Is a neocon ever personally responsible for anything?
Nope. They're the bastion of justice in a crazy liberal world. :rolleyes:
That's why they don't think twice about f*cking the rest of the world for their righteous goals. Even some perversion of some religious texts allows them that.


BTW, no sign of you on the polar bear thread. Whassup w/that?

THIS WAS A THREAD EARLIER IN THE DAY. LOOK AROUND. YOU'LL SEE IT.

:p
...probably a consequence of wordcraft...

THIS WAS A THREAD EARLIER IN THE DAY. LOOK AROUND. YOU'LL SEE IT.

:p
I just read it in the Mexican newspaper. And as soon as I did I turned to see if there was a thread of it on NS General, and sure enough, here it was.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident)

ZOMG Cheney purposefully tried to kill someone!!! He is teh evil, and so are demonic guns!!! RepubliKKKans must be stopped now!!111
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:D

Well, at least he's up front about it. It's not like that many people who live and work in the DC area believe that Vince Foster killed himself.

Good for him!

Moral of the story: Don't fuck with Dick!

Well, at least he's up front about it. It's not like that many people who live and work in the DC area believe that Vince Foster killed himself.

Good for him!

No, a Republican's tinfoil hat reached sentience and killed Vince Foster.

It was a quiet and unremarked upon precursor to the great Foil Revolt of 2015.

Well, at least he's up front about it. It's not like that many people who live and work in the DC area believe that Vince Foster killed himself.

Good for him!

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/vince-foster/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Foster

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/clinton.htm

Heck, when such luminaries as Ken Starr and Ann Coulter both say the Vince Foster conspiracy theory is bupkis, you gotta wonder how whacky YOU are to believe it.

Well, at least he's up front about it. It's not like that many people who live and work in the DC area believe that Vince Foster killed himself.

Good for him!

Don't you like, suffer some kind of punishment even for accidental shootings of other people? Take away your license and stuff like that? I know that if you cause a car crash, similar penalties follow suit.

I do seem to remember a case of a fatal shooting of a police officer when a man thought he was being burgled because the police broke down his door at night without announcing themselves and rushed in. The person got the death penalty. Cheney didn't kill Whittington, but that kind of thing isn't something you just laugh off.

Oops. I shot you by accident. No hard feelings?

Who wants to bet that Cheney won't even get a slap on the wrist?

Who wants to bet that Cheney won't even get a slap on the wrist?

Anyone who bets against that is a fool. Of course Cheney won't be punished.

Who wants to bet that Cheney won't even get a slap on the wrist?
You know that an action like that could result in a cardiovascular arrhythmia, resulting in the assassination of the VP. Although i could have a clear conscience about it, i don't think i'd get anything short of the chair for it. Especially given my variable intelligence and Bush's track record for capital punishment as a Governor ...

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/09/texas.double.execution.03/

You know that an action like that could result in a cardiovascular arrhythmia, resulting in the assassination of the VP. Although i could have a clear conscience about it, i don't think i'd get anything short of the chair for it.

Now that's bollocks and you know it. Bush didn't have the baker executed for attempted assassination because of his pretzels now did he? :p

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11312757/


wow this is the guy who's 1 life fro m the presidenticy.

Always assume that unless the news story has come out less than 30 seconds ago, there are already a bunch of threads about it here, and we don't need another one..

Sure we do. Cheney's a psycho. Not surprising it happened.

If he shoots his friends, imagine what he does to his enemies…

Wow! All I have to do to get three freakin' threads in my honor is shoot someone with birdshot! F'awesome yo!

US Vice President Dick Cheney = World's most retarded gun owner/hunter

I imagine Cheney's thought process went something like this:
Hunting quail.
Dan Quayle was VP under Bush.
I'm a VP under another Bush.
Quayle was a dumbass.
So's my Bush.
Bush hates Iraq.
Iraq's got a q in it.
Like quail.
Or Quayle.
Fire!

Sorry--funny's really not my gig.:D

US Vice President Dick Cheney = World's most retarded gun owner/hunter

Believe it or not, this sort of thing is not entirely uncommon... accidents are statistically precluded to occur.

Something tells me that this little "accident" is gonna disappear pretty soon...Oh well. That's one of the incredibly numerous problems with governments: being above the law.

Something tells me that this little "accident" is gonna disappear pretty soon...Oh well. That's one of the incredibly numerous problems with governments: being above the law.

well govenrment does kind of make the law, im sure you wont find a country in the world that considers its government under the law

your probably meant government officials.

I picked this thread because it was the longest and furthest back. I hope it's the oldest, but I can't be bothered to check. I knew it would have been posted about a dozen times by the time I got home...

I know it was an accident, and accidents happen etc. etc., but damn this is funny.

I mean, it was Cheney...

I guess if you're going to get shot by a fellow hunter it might as well be by the Vice President, he has all those dudes around him to keep him alive, help is right there.

Don't get so excited; Cheney only shot a laywer.

Best thing the Bush Administration's ever done.

I wonder what the "Right" would be saying now if Kerry shot someone while hunting?

I wonder what the "Right" would be saying now if Kerry shot someone while hunting?
I wonder what your mom would say if I started speaking in meaningless and unprovable hypotheticals while juggling elephants? I bet she'd throw a frying pan at you immediatley before raping a goat.

I wonder what your mom would say if I started speaking in meaningless and unprovable hypotheticals while juggling elephants? I bet she'd throw a frying pan at you immediatley before raping a goat.

Hard for her to do. She's dead, ya see.

Anyway, I only asked a question. Based on what the "Right" said when Kerry merely muffed catching/throwing a football.

Shooting someone > sucking at sports.

I didn't even present posited phrases and overblown examples.

Ah well. Carry on with the defensiveness. I give you points for originality and wording though.

Alex Trebek: Okay, you've chosen "Vice-Presidential oddities" for $800. And the anwer is...Cheney shoots somebody.

Contestant: Uh...what is the first entry every day in Cheney's diary?

Alex Trebek: Oh, I'm sorry. You should have noticed that it wasn't phrased in the form of 1st person perspective. No, the correct question is:

What is #3 on the itinerary of an Abramoff-funded vactaion?

I wonder if Cheney has a case coming up before the court soon--you know, he and Scalia like to duck hunt, and maybe this was a message. :D

must have been dang hungry.


(such a BAD joke.) (apologies cheney and family, people think you are fat, it was a fat person joke, nothing personal, atleast I didn't draw you with a bomb turban.

Guy survived. If he got to keep the pellets each one of them could prolly be sold on ebay for the price of one of his clients.

They need GPS body systems tied in with barel direction, and a little speaker system.

Warning Republican in feild of fire, HALT!
Warning Republican in feild of fire, HALT!
Warning Republican in feild of fire, HALT!
Democrat in field of fire,all clear, fire at will.


I wonder if cheney got the quail.

Or maybe no one told the other guy that they were 'defending' the quail convoys, not hunting them!!!

Then well naturally he hits one and they think it is friendly fire or an implanted enemy agent set to kill all the quail they were trying to protect.. spin comon baby spin.

-snip-

Clearly, it was a failure of intelligence.

Wait a second....You use a shotgun to hunt Quail??????????
http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/quail.jpg

accident my ass
Yes, you do, actually. You use birdshot, as opposed to buckshot (for deer).

Hard for her to do. She's dead, ya see.
And now, you've thought to much about the whole thing. It would be hard for me to juggle elephants under any circumstances.
Anyway, I only asked a question. Based on what the "Right" said when Kerry merely muffed catching/throwing a football.

Shooting someone > sucking at sports.
That was during campaign season. Nobody really cares that much about Kerru anymore, he fumbled the proverbial football a couple years ago, and he's out of the game for the forseeable future.
I didn't even present posited phrases and overblown examples.
A great failure on your part, and one which I strived to counter with my own overblown example and direct attack, on the hopes that the exchange would even out.
Ah well. Carry on with the defensiveness. I give you points for originality and wording though.
I'm not being defensive (although I am tired of every little thing being politicized, scandalised, sexed up and sensationalized. Life isn't a big conspiracy, in reality, there is just a handful of people doing "their own thing" for their own purposes. Sometimes those purposes coincide, but most events have no grand cause and effect link) I'm being combative.
I only engage in politics because I want a fight, and so I always go in shooting. If I wanted thoughtful and enlightening discussion, I wouldn't use the 'net, and I sure as Hell wouldn't come here.

Yes, you do, actually. You use birdshot, as opposed to buckshot (for deer).
Which is why the guy's doing okay in the hospital. If he'd been hit with buckshot, maybe no so good.

Want to go hunt some quail with me? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif


Sure...should i use the camo that looks like a bird?

lol...that'd be something funny to see..Dan Quayle shot by Vice President Cheney...jeez...
To be fair, the prey has a comparable intelligence quotient.
*nods, sighs*

Would it make you feel better if the man was shot with an arrow?
Do you know how much bandwith would be committed to procuring the photos? :D

I imagine Cheney's thought process went something like this:


Sorry--funny's really not my gig.:D
Would've made a good stand-up! :D

Now that's bollocks and you know it. Bush didn't have the baker executed for attempted assassination because of his pretzels now did he? :p
Actually he was classified as a terrorist and moved out of normal communications. You need a special order to talk to him.
As well, the Segway dealer in Crawford has been "moved" into a different line of work.
Also, three Italian Police officers have since moved on to jobs in the service industry.
And ... if i remember correctly, he had devices made in China removed from his house.
But as far as i know he hasn't issued any orders of fatwa against the pretzel industry!

Don't you like, suffer some kind of punishment even for accidental shootings of other people? Take away your license and stuff like that? I know that if you cause a car crash, similar penalties follow suit.

I do seem to remember a case of a fatal shooting of a police officer when a man thought he was being burgled because the police broke down his door at night without announcing themselves and rushed in. The person got the death penalty. Cheney didn't kill Whittington, but that kind of thing isn't something you just laugh off.

Oops. I shot you by accident. No hard feelings?

Who wants to bet that Cheney won't even get a slap on the wrist?


In most states you need a hunting license to hunt (and the license is granted by the individual state, and not the federal government). Maybe he loses the hunting license, but it looks like he already went hunting, so...

If it's ruled an accident by the investigators, no criminal charges will be filed.

Only an idiot shoots someone like that - that's right up there with knowing where your friends are when you get ready to make the shot.

That, and birds are usually rising into the air - your friend is standing on the ground.

Most states require no license for the possession of a shotgun. Because it's not concealable, and because with most loads it's not lethal past 10 yards, it is usually regarded as "more lethal than a BB gun" but "far less lethal than a rifle" and "not involved in criminal activity as much as a handgun".

His hunting partner could sue him. I know I would.

Luckily in the UK we have strict control on the use of politicians for hunting.

On the bright side.... at least SOMEONE has the good sense to profit from all this! (http://www.cafepress.com/bloodyt.47560534)

:D :p :D

Can you imagine if it had been Kerry shooting someone by accident during one of his duck-hunting photo shoots last year?

The right-media would have been all over it with comments about how he is too incompetent to even hold a weapon, enherently untrustwrthy, flip-flopped on what to shoot, and probably had faked his supposed hunting credentials. the Swift Hunters For Truth would have been out telling about how four other hunters died the day Kerry bagged his first turkey.

It would have been a nasty, ugly, mess.


So I suppose that it's no wonder that they tried to hush this up. They naturally asumed that Dick would be treated that way.



So as not to dissappoint them, I'd just say that this incident is indicitive of the general ability of this administration to set proper sights.


Take aim at a bird? Shoot a friend....
Take aim at Al Qaeda? Blow the hell out of IRaq.


See! It's all part of a pattern.... :D

morals of the story:

1)Don't sneak up on a guy with a gun

2)Don't shoot until you're certain that the path is clear of humans

morals of the story:

1)Don't sneak up on a guy with a gun

2)Don't shoot until you're certain that the path is clear of humans


Well, you know how it is... after you kill 400 or so animals in a day, it gets hard to keep your concentration.... (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/2693558/detail.html)


Monday's hunting trip to Pennsylvania by Vice President Dick Cheney in which he reportedly shot more than 70 stocked pheasants and an unknown number of mallard ducks at an exclusive private club places a spotlight on an increasingly popular and deplorable form of hunting, in which birds are pen-reared and released to be shot in large numbers by patrons. The ethics of these hunts are called into question by rank-and-file sportsmen, who hunt animals in their native habitat and do not shoot confined or pen-raised animals that cannot escape.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported today that 500 farm-raised pheasants were released yesterday morning at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township for the benefit of Cheney's 10-person hunting party. The group killed at least 417 of the birds, illustrating the unsporting nature of canned hunts. The party also shot an unknown number of captive mallards in the afternoon.

"This wasn't a hunting ground. It was an open-air abattoir, and the vice president should be ashamed to have patronized this operation and then slaughtered so many animals," states Wayne Pacelle, a senior vice president of The Humane Society of the United States. "If the Vice President and his friends wanted to sharpen their shooting skills, they could have shot skeet or clay, not resorted to the slaughter of more than 400 creatures planted right in front of them as animated targets."


It's how chickenhawks satisfy their bloodlust...

the only real way to hunt is to go to the deer not bring the deer to u. thats just sick when the penn them up and have no chance of escape.

These topics really show who has any experience with hunting.

Which is why the guy's doing okay in the hospital. If he'd been hit with buckshot, maybe no so good.
Not as bad as if he had been hit with Lawyer-shot

Oh dont worry it was a liberal's fault Im sure. Everything is to the bush administration.

Well, you know how it is... after you kill 400 or so animals in a day, it gets hard to keep your concentration.... (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/2693558/detail.html)




It's how chickenhawks satisfy their bloodlust...

Remember when we had this kind of President (http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/kidscorner/tr_teddy.htm)-
Nearly 100 years ago, President Theodore Roosevelt, went on a bear hunt. He enjoyed nature and being out in the woods where animals lived. Because he was the President of the United States, the people organizing the hunt wanted to make sure the hunt was successful.

But after 3 days of walking and climbing and riding, no bears were found. Now what? The President's bear hunt would be a failure!

The next day the hunt guide and his hunting dogs finally found an old bear. The dogs and guide followed the bear for quite a distance until the bear was very, very tired. The dogs attacked and injured the old bear. The guides tied the bear to a tree and called for the President. Here was a bear for him to shoot!

President Roosevelt looked at the poor old bear and said "no!" No one would shoot this old bear for sport. That would not be right. However, the bear was injured and suffering. President Roosevelt ordered that the bear be put down to end its pain.
http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/graph%20harv%20col/p18%20copy.jpg
(Okay, I don't 'remember' that either, I'm not over 100 years old...)

"In related news, President Bush has cancelled an upcoming hunting trip with the vice president, instead scheduling a impromptu visit to Baghdad and Mogadishu, Somalia. When asked about the sudden change of plans, the president cited safety concerns as the reason for the switch."

Remember when we had this kind of President (http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/kidscorner/tr_teddy.htm)-


I don't remember it personally, but there certainly is a difference between those two mindsets about sportsmanship.

News reports are now coming out that Dick had neglected to buy his stamp, and so was in violation of Texas game laws at the time of the incident.


All told, he has a lot of egg on his face on this one - which I suppose is still preferable to being shot in the face....

I don't remember it personally, but there certainly is a difference between those two mindsets about sportsmanship.

News reports are now coming out that Dick had neglected to buy his stamp, and so was in violation of Texas game laws at the time of the incident.


All told, he has a lot of egg on his face on this one - which I suppose is still preferable to being shot in the face....
I think that this will be nothing more than embarassing, along the lines of throwing up on the Japanese Prime Minister, which is appropriate really. As funny as it is (understanding that the shot guy is going to be okay) it's really just that. The bit about him hunting tame stocked animals does speak to character, but a lot of things about Cheney already point to that...

I think that this will be nothing more than embarassing, along the lines of throwing up on the Japanese Prime Minister, which is appropriate really. As funny as it is (understanding that the shot guy is going to be okay) it's really just that. The bit about him hunting tame stocked animals does speak to character, but a lot of things about Cheney already point to that...

Nah, they'll fight through the embarassment with a counterattack. Actually, after thinking it through I realized that under the terms of the permission given the White House by the Senate to engage in "military action" to protect the nation from terrorists, the Vice President has the right to shoot a 78-year-old man who he believes is a threat to the American people.

Clearly this man was holding a gun capable of shooting the Vice President, and was within firing range of the Vice President, which means he was a threat and had to be taken out.

Failing that as an explanation, 500 pen-raised quail had been seen in the area, all of which could conceivably carry bird flu, so Vice President Cheney was emerely engaging in the 'War on Flu' when he fired his shot. And as we know, in times of war there will inevitably be civilian loss.

And - at the end of the day - you go to war with the six-pack, beef jerky, millionaire buddies and rifle you have, not the six-pack, beef jerky, milionaire buddies and rifle you want.

:p

Nah, they'll fight through the embarassment with a counterattack. Actually, after thinking it through I realized that under the terms of the permission given the White House by the Senate to engage in "military action" to protect the nation from terrorists, the Vice President has the right to shoot a 78-year-old man who he believes is a threat to the American people.

Clearly this man was holding a gun capable of shooting the Vice President, and was within firing range of the Vice President, which means he was a threat and had to be taken out.

Failing that as an explanation, 500 pen-raised quail had been seen in the area, all of which could conceivably carry bird flu, so Vice President Cheney was emerely engaging in the 'War on Flu' when he fired his shot. And as we know, in times of war there will inevitably be civilian loss.

And - at the end of the day - you go to war with the six-pack, beef jerky, millionaire buddies and rifle you have, not the six-pack, beef jerky, milionaire buddies and rifle you want.

:p
Quality

this is the police report i found here (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0213061cheney1.gif

*Game Law Violated? P&W Code 43,652
What does that mean?

And why is it unknown whether Cheney is an certified hunter or not?

What does that mean?

And why is it unknown whether Cheney is an certified hunter or not?

I was asking myself the same thing.

Yes, actually, you do.

Is it necessary?

What does that mean?

And why is it unknown whether Cheney is an certified hunter or not?

He didn't buy his quail stamp or some such little shit. Mind you, I question why a guy who's leeching off the tax-payer has the time to go lolly-gaggin round the country shooting at small game birds in the first place.

But it's not like he failed his 'gun-school' or anything. (I also heard that all he has to do is pay the license fee. Anyone else would be fined and crap. Typical. Next time I get stopped with in an improperly registered vehicle I am just going to tell the cop that I'm the vice-president, so I didn't 'get round' to it, but don't worry my office will send it in.)

Man, if I was VP, everyday would be pizza and movie day.

He didn't buy his quail stamp or some such little shit. Mind you, I question why a guy who's leeching off the tax-payer has the time to go lolly-gaggin round the country shooting at small game birds in the first place.

But it's not like he failed his 'gun-school' or anything. (I also heard that all he has to do is pay the license fee. Anyone else would be fined and crap. Typical. Next time I get stopped with in an improperly registered vehicle I am just going to tell the cop that I'm the vice-president, so I didn't 'get round' to it, but don't worry my office will send it in.)

Man, if I was VP, everyday would be pizza and movie day.
And if you was prez, you'd take as many vacations as possible. Oh, wait .... (!)

I liked the picture of him getting the gun from the NRA.

when they said cheny shoots quail i thought they were talking about nixxon's vp!

so the rift in the uneasy coellition between the bizdroid and pseudoreligeous fanatic factions of pseudoconservatism has finally opened that wide.

sigh. just another stupid hunting accident.

but wait; never forget kiddies, hunting 'accidents' ARE a form of denieability.

and no one loves denyability more then a pseudoconservative.

=^^=
.../\...

when they said cheny shoots quail i thought they were talking about nixxon's vp!

so the rift in the uneasy coellition between the bizdroid and pseudoreligeous fanatic factions of pseudoconservatism has finally opened that wide.

sigh. just another stupid hunting accident.

but wait; never forget kiddies, hunting 'accidents' ARE a form of denieability.

and no one loves denyability more then a pseudoconservative.

=^^=
.../\...

Why would quail make you think of Spiro Agnew?

First VP to shoot someone since Burr and Hamiliton went at it...

You think this would make a good case for gun control, but it wont. They'll just tell us to arm ourselves cause Cheney's on the loose.

:sniper: :sniper:

:mp5:

Why would quail make you think of Spiro Agnew?

oops, i knew i was getting muddle headed in my old age. argh, i was of course thinking of DAN QUAIL, whoever's vice p he was, or was that some alternative universe, i forget.

=^^=
.../\...

The punchline ain't that good, but I love the expression on the hunter's face:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinion/ssi/images/Toles/c_02142006_520.gif

We should hand Cheney a nice big gun, and make him go hunting with all the whitehouse lawyers. That should get rid of some lawyers.

oops, i knew i was getting muddle headed in my old age. argh, i was of course thinking of DAN QUAIL, whoever's vice p he was, or was that some alternative universe, i forget.

=^^=
.../\...
I think you have proved the point that no one has made, yet. Vice Presidents just don't matter.

We should hand Cheney a nice big gun, and make him go hunting with all the whitehouse lawyers. That should get rid of some lawyers.
I was thinking he should organize a quail hunt for the next ABA convention. Or maybe just the trial lawyers.

Anyone heard the rumours that Cheney was drunk at the time and supposedly that's why they wouldn't let the local cops interview him until the next day?

Cheney shoots a guy in the face and Paris Hilton is offered the role of Mother Teresa in an upcoming movie. I think I need to go pray.

I think you have proved the point that no one has made, yet. Vice Presidents just don't matter.
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter,"

Tee, hee.
So, there's more ... McClellan stand-up! A new career?

*ahem*

McClellan Takes Aim at Cheney

By Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 14, 2006; 12:12 PM

After a not-entirely-successful effort on Monday to explain the vice president's hunting accident, press secretary Scott McClellan reloaded this morning and took aim at Dick Cheney himself.

President Bush, he announced, would be on the South Lawn with the national champion University of Texas football team. "The orange they're wearing is not because they are concerned that the vice president will be there," he deadpanned.


The reporters, so recently his tormenters, guffawed. "Although," he continued, pointing to his orange tie, "that's why I'm wearing it, so hopefully none of y'all will --''

If McClellan finished that thought, it was lost in more laughter. But the goodwill ended quickly.

Terry Hunt of the AP wanted to know if President Bush has spoken with the shooting victim (he hasn't) and how often Cheney goes hunting ("on a fairly frequent basis.") CBS's Bill Plante asked if Cheney's office would be providing a fuller account of what happened over the weekend. "I think we pretty much covered it all yesterday," McClellan said.

NBC's Kelly O'Donnell wondered if Cheney would be offering any statement himself, even one of regret for the shooting. "You've heard from the vice president's office," McClellan replied.

The spokesman seemed grateful when Helen Thomas hectored him about Hamas, or when another wondered if Bush still has confidence in embattled Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

The New York Times's Elisabeth Bumiller tried to sort out the shooting timeline. "Why didn't the vice president call the president?" she pressed. "I don't get it."

"Karl [Rove] spoke with the vice president."

"He's not the president."

O'Donnell tried a different tack on the lack of a phone call between Bush and Cheney. "Should we interpret that there's any strain in the relationship?

"No," McClellan said with a forced laugh, "you shouldn't."

The irrepressible Ken Herman of Cox News challenged: "Why don't they go hunting together?"

The spokesman wouldn't nibble at a question about how the shooting would have been handled if Cheney had been the victim rather than the shooter ("I don't engage in hypotheticals")[/I], and he wouldn't say firmly that Cheney had not been involved in other accidents or medical problems that weren't disclosed. "Not that I know of," he said. "You'd want to check with his office on that."


The New York Post's Deb Orin, no Cheney antagonist, tried to sum up what "we're all trying to get at" with the questioning. [I]When Bush accidentally shot a protected bird called a Kildee, he took immediate and public responsibility. Orin wondered why "the vice president has failed in any way to stand up and say, 'I made a mistake.' "

"He has commented through his spokeswoman," McClellan offered, his orange tie failing him.

"But why haven't we heard from him?" interjected Plante.

"I don't think he had any public events scheduled," McClellan replied.

"He could schedule one," Plante persisted. "It would be easy. If he wanted to come over here, you'd probably let him. We would turn up."

McClellan was done taking advice. "OK, then you can start running the vice president's office, Bill."

The spokesman spun and walked away from the podium.

Anyone heard the rumours that Cheney was drunk at the time and supposedly that's why they wouldn't let the local cops interview him until the next day?
I thought he wasn't going to ace a drug test. His vision was blurred 'cuz some coke flew into his sighting eye.

Why would quail make you think of Spiro Agnew?
Ever heard the guy's stand-up routine? Hilarious!

EDIT:
Not so funny. The fella just had a heart attack. Complications.

Indeed. Current reports state that the victim has pellets lodged in his heart - which is a far cry from the sort of cosmetic face and neck damage that was initally suggested when the story broke.

Indeed. Current reports state that the victim has pellets lodged in his heart - which is a far cry from the sort of cosmetic face and neck damage that was initally suggested when the story broke.
It is staggeringly, profoundly irritating that the neocon populace is SO AMAZINGLY incapable of simple, honest integrity. *grrr*

It is staggeringly, profoundly irritating that the neocon populace is SO AMAZINGLY incapable of simple, honest integrity. *grrr*

I just found it out, and I see it's already been mentioned... so I'll just post my link:

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

"The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had "a minor heart attack" Tuesday morning, hospital officials said. The victim, Harry Whittington, was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit for further treatment".

This lawyer guy... he isn't involved in any of the cases of Republican scandal at the moment, I trust...?

I just found it out, and I see it's already been mentioned... so I'll just post my link:

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

"The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had "a minor heart attack" Tuesday morning, hospital officials said. The victim, Harry Whittington, was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit for further treatment".

This lawyer guy... he isn't involved in any of the cases of Republican scandal at the moment, I trust...?
I haven't seen his name mentioned before this situation. Admittedly, i haven't looked hard enough.

I haven't seen his name mentioned before this situation. Admittedly, i haven't looked hard enough.

Maybe it's not been out there, really... I didn't actually look for it, either... but I find it a little suspicious that the name increases in visibility as it becomes more likely the guy might 'kick it'... trying to backtrack on the 'whitewash', maybe?

Maybe it's not been out there, really... I didn't actually look for it, either... but I find it a little suspicious that the name increases in visibility as it becomes more likely the guy might 'kick it'... trying to backtrack on the 'whitewash', maybe?
Unfortunately, it's gotten to the point that i am indeed suspicious of ANY news issue with anyone in the admin. I originally didn't think they had much story here. Now i have to guess and snoop a bit more to satisfy my curiosity.