NationStates Jolt Archive

Sat Feb 11, 6:02 AM ET

TEHRAN (Reuters) -
Iran may reconsider its membership of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) if it feels its enemies are using the accord to put unfair pressure on it, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday.

"The Islamic Republic's policy has been to follow its nuclear efforts in the framework of the (International Atomic Energy) Agency and the NPT," he told a huge crowd on the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic revolution.

"However, if we find out they are going to take advantage of these regulations to destroy the rights of the Iranian people, you should know that the Iranian nation will reconsider its policy," he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060211/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_dc;_ylt=AvkhEVHX6HxSbSimrXkvm2mOe8UF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4b3FrcXQ0BHNlYwMxNjkz

my heart bleeds for them...........:rolleyes:

Might as well have said "We want nukes and we want them now!" Honestly, if they get nukes, I will be somewhat frightened, because you never know what fundies will do.


Though, I really wish that my own nation would obey the terms of the various nuclear weapons/energy treaties it has signed, too.

Might as well have said "We want nukes and we want them now!" Honestly, if they get nukes, I will be somewhat frightened, because you never know what fundies will do.
But that is not any different from all other countries possessing nuclear weapons. Living in western Europe I was frightened all through the eighties because of what came out of the White House. Talk like of "Evil Empire" and "We begin bombing in five minutes" or more recently "Axis of Evil" does not really further de-escalation.

Though, I really wish that my own nation would obey the terms of the various nuclear weapons/energy treaties it has signed, too.
Indeed.

But that is not any different from all other countries possessing nuclear weapons. Living in western Europe I was frightened all through the eighties because of what came out of the White House. Talk like of "Evil Empire" and "We begin bombing in five minutes" or more recently "Axis of Evil" does not really further de-escalation.



Well, I'm not a fan of the president we had in the 80's. Or of the one we have now. However, Iran honestly does worry me. So does North Korea. And so does my own government.

Well, I'm not a fan of the president we had in the 80's. Or of the one we have now. However, Iran honestly does worry me. So does North Korea. And so does my own government.
Regime change begins at home. :)

Regime change begins at home. :)


That it does. I was grossly disappointed in my fellow Americans in their decision in 2004. I am still disappointed in them.

First off, it's never a good idea to give nukes to a dictator, and how dare people compare the US to corrupt North Korean Dictatorship or the Soviet Empire, which murdered millions of it's own people. And ya know, that's the great thing about a republic, the government has accountability to the people, not the other way around.

Surprised yet?

but...but...but I thought they never signed it anyway as Our Constitution told us in the thread Truth: The Islamic Republic of Iran is *NOT* a Signatory of the NNPT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466486&) just about a week ago.

Sat Feb 11, 6:02 AM ET

TEHRAN (Reuters) -
Normally you ought to say something other than just copy+paste an article.

Might as well have said "We want nukes and we want them now!" Honestly, if they get nukes, I will be somewhat frightened, because you never know what fundies will do.


Sure you do, look at Ronnie Raygun. He decided he wanted cool space lasers on top of his big pile 'o nukes.

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And Olantia, resident trustworthy (since largely unbiased) authority in things concerning international law pointed him out to be wrong.

But this pretty much confirms what the West has suspected, because withdrawing from the NPT frees them from all obligations regarding not building weapons. Which means that they either want to build bombs, or that they are incredibly untalented when it comes to public relations.

But this pretty much confirms what the West has suspected, because withdrawing from the NPT frees them from all obligations regarding not building weapons. Which means that they either want to build bombs, or that they are incredibly untalented when it comes to public relations.

It also would be a very aggressive move to take. And a very counterproductive one. One which would, I am sure, give Israel the green light to bomb any suspected nuclear installations in Iran. While Iran keeps up the appearances of only researching for power needs, the country has a level of leeway. Were it to abandon the NPT, however, the veil would be lifted and not just Israel, but NATO would be obligated to act.

Normally you ought to say something other than just copy+paste an article.Last time I added a short comment .. The Anti-Ocean-League went on a 200 posts rampage about how I had supposedly "implied bad things" (:rolleyes: they are pathetic)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467706

You still want my official comments about Iran?,
ok.. how about this for now? "I told you so.. didnt I?"

Sure you do, look at Ronnie Raygun. He decided he wanted cool space lasers on top of his big pile 'o nukes.
Fortunately, that didn't get very far.

Besides, Reagan wasn't a fundamentalist so much as a cunning politician who made the odd "God" comment purely in order to attract gullible religious voters.

At least the giant space lasers were supposed to shoot down nukes, which is probably the least bad thing you could use a space laser for.

Iran doesnt seem to unbderstand that nuclear weapons are supposed to be a deterrant, not an overt threat. if they get them they will just try to bully the rest of the middle east. We should act now and remove their capacity to create weapons while we still can. If we leave it too late we may have no choice but to destroy the entire country. and no one wants that.

First off, it's never a good idea to give nukes to a dictator, and how dare people compare the US to corrupt North Korean Dictatorship or the Soviet Empire, which murdered millions of it's own people. And ya know, that's the great thing about a republic, the government has accountability to the people, not the other way around.

Nope, the US doesn't murder its own people, only foreigners...

I actually think the Iran enrichment issue has been somewhat overblown and is being exploited both by the US and its allies and by the Iranians for political gain.

The US can hold it up as an example of how they are 'serious about getting tough with rogue states'. The Iranians can hold it up as an example of how they're 'getting tough with the infidel'.

I actually don't think Iran really wants nuclear weapons, merely nuclear power. Nuclear weapons are expensive to research and maintain. Perhaps more importantly nuclear weapons would give the Iranians an awful lot of grief from the international community, more than they are willing to take on while giving them very little in the way of strategic advantages.

Bear in mind, nuclear weapons are pretty useless without adequate delivery systems. North Korea may have nuclear weapons now, but their ability to launch them further than south korea is questionable. Iran would have to put undue effort into getting delivery systems that would allow them to reach Israel, let alone Europe or the US.

Iran has been rather open about its nuclear ambitions. Its uranian mining and enrichment programmes were conducted with a fair amount of openness and observation. I honestly think that Iran is currently looking for nuclear power and is simply taking the opportunity to sure up support at home by sticking two fingers up to the west. It simply hasn't been secretive enough about its activities to be worried about them.

First off, it's never a good idea to give nukes to a dictator..
#1- I agree.. it is not a good idea.
#2- He was elected.