NationStates Jolt Archive

Poll:)

How colonial.

Yeah, so where's the poll?

LOL, NationStates, like most web communities, is going to be embarrassingly young, male and white. It says more about Internet accessibility and use than anything else.

Irish/Scottish/Whelsh/German/French/Finnish. Now do yer homework.

Yeah, so where's the poll?
i dont know......

Earthling

but if you wanna split hairs, Okinawan.

Occidental.
Although i could imply a different starting vowel. *nods*

Oh wait, is my answer supposed to be,
"We're ALL 'god's' children!" ?

Scots-Irish.

Irish, Cherokee, German, Dutch, French, Mahican. A real Amerimutt.

I had to look up what ethnicity actually meant. But it seems I can get away with 'geek', under the cultural clause.

English and Welsh. Bit of German and some Scottish somewhere in there as well.

33 white male

Irish, German, Austrian, and Lichensteinian(sp)

Majorly Jewish (Sephardic on one side, Ashkenazic on the other), but other stuff mixed in (West African, Scandinavian, Anglo-Saxon, and Native American to name a few)

White English/Nigerian, Dual Nationality

Ukrainian, Irish, Welsh ..and if you go back far enough French.

(A Ukranian in Alberta... what are the odds?)

Siciliano and Calabrese

Primarily English (Norman, Saxon), German (Saxon), and Welsh (Celt)... approximately 40/40/20

there's some ancient Scottish, Pictish and French blood there too

Poland.

14/16 English, 1/16 Welsh, 1/16 Irish.

Irish/English/French/Norse.
Yup, I'm a viking.

Scandinavian, half of both the uralic and the germanic type.

Pervert.

Germanic Scandinavian (Norse), with English, French and Irish background. Follower of Heathenism.

100% makadonski

Ashkenazi Jew, 3rd generation American.

50% Italian, 50% Swiss German (or German Swiss). 100% New England.

Irish, German, Austrian, and Lichensteinian(sp)

Lichtensteinian? So you have ancestors from Lichtenstein?

Lichtenstein means literally: To collect the last drop of beer by extending one's tongue into the glass...

I have a few friends like that...

Ethnicity: what I say to someone when they ask if something is downtown after I have bitten my tongue...

Irish/German/English/Scottish w/ a tiny bit of French.

Scandinavian, half of both the uralic and the germanic type.
I'm sorry, but there's no "Uralic" type. There's no DNA evidence for significant genetic relations between different groups of Uralic language speakers. Finns, for example, are closest related to Belgians or Germans. The Sami are aboriginal European-origin isolates. Some Asian people also speak Uralic languages. But, the logic isn't watertight: many people of African origin speak languages related to Norwegian, therefore the Norwegians are Africans.

I'm sorry, but there's no "Uralic" type. There's no DNA evidence for significant genetic relations between different groups of Uralic language speakers. Finns, for example, are closest related to Belgians or Germans. The Sami are aboriginal European-origin isolates. Some Asian people also speak Uralic languages. But, the logic isn't watertight: many people of African origin speak languages related to Norwegian, therefore the Norwegians are Africans.
:eek: Isn't ethnicity about culture?

:eek: Isn't ethnicity about culture?It's about various forms of heritage, including racial, national, religious, linguistic and (other) culture.

Just English like Yorkshire Pudding or Chicken Tikka Masalla....... invented in Birmingham..great!

Irish/Scottish/Commanche

German, Spanish, (Byelo)Russian, and possibly Scandinavian. There may be more, but if so I have no idea what it is.

:eek: Isn't ethnicity about culture?
Yep, that's even more proof why "Uralic" isn't an ethnicity.

Good point, now that you mention it. Sami languages separated from Baltic Finnic in 1000-1500 BC, so a "Finno-Samic ethnicity" would be comparable to a "Germanic ethnicity". Are the Swedes, Englishmen, Germans the same?

Ashkenazi Jew, 3rd generation American.

You know that by being an Ashkenazi Jew your ethnicicity would actually be...German/Polish/Russian/French...whatever. Ashkenazi is not an ethnic group, its a name given to Jews that come from Europe.

Where as Sephardic Jews would actually be Spanish/Lebanese...etc

As an example. I am an Ashkenazi too aslo, but my ethnicity is German (from Berlin, Prussia), Austrian (From Vienna) and some Russian.

American.............

You know that by being an Ashkenazi Jew your ethnicicity would actually be...German/Polish/Russian/French...whatever. Ashkenazi is not an ethnic group, its a name given to Jews that come from Europe.

Where as Sephardic Jews would actually be Spanish/Lebanese...etc




A 2000 study by Hammer et al[10] indicated that the Y chromosome of both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews is of Middle Eastern origin, similar to DNA types of Palestinians, Lebanese, or Syrians. Since the Y chromosome can only be passed from father to son, it is used to trace paternal lineage (male ancestors). In this study, the male ancestors of the Ashkenazi population were traced primarily to the Middle East.

a 2006 study by Behar et al[6] that examined mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) (which can only be passed from mother to child and is therefore used to trace maternal origins (female ancestors)) indicated that about 40% of the current Ashkenazi population are descended matrilineally from just four women. These four "founder lineages" were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi#Population_genetics


I'd say that those studies would pretty much show that an ashkenazi jew from germany (like me) and others from germany are of different ethnic origins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi#Population_genetics


I'd say that those studies would pretty much show that an ashkenazi jew from germany (like me) and others from germany are of different ethnic origins.

All that show is that Ashkenazi Jews may contain slightly higher chances of getting some diseases. Which is obvious because there was alot of Ashkenazi intermarriage...so duh.

Also, the rest is just saying that they think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than non Jewish Europeans, because of the situations presented to the Jews in Europe and the jobs they needed to do were more mentally chanllening.

That still has nothing to do with race or ethnicity or whatever.

That still has nothing to do with race or ethnicity or whatever.
did you read the part (which I put on my message) about how studies have shown that the ashkenazi jews are ethically originally from the middle east?

Aryan-Scot

Mostly dutch, with some english and greek blood.

Mostly German, Italian, and French.

I like to joke about how the German side of me wants to take over the world, the Italian side can drink and fight with the best of 'em, and the French side hates me for the American bastard that I am xp

My dad was adopted and he never found out who his birth parents were.

My mother side of the family is Irish and German, so that's the half of me I know.

Physically, my dad was kinda a mutt. Swarthy, but not brown skin. Black hair. Large nose. Smallish chin. Largish lips. I inherited the nose, a small part of the coloration and the lips. Could have been White/Middle Eastern mix. Could have been White/Native American. Could have been Eastern European.

Ah well, I'll never know.

Polish. I think down the line there may have been some Lithuanian blood as well, but I'm not sure.

Im 25% Italian, 25% Polish, 10% German(the percent that largely controls my mind, and keeps wanting me to wipe out half the world so I can rule it), and the rest are unknown percents of English, Scotch-Irish, Swedish, Dutch, and Czech-Slovakian.

I am most Italian and Irish but if you want to be technical then I'm 100% Native American (I was born in the USA :p )

Italian/Armenian/Sirian/Slav/Portuguese but born in Brasil

did you read the part (which I put on my message) about how studies have shown that the ashkenazi jews are ethically originally from the middle east?

Ok, first of all.."indicated that about 40% of the current Ashkenazi population are descended matrilineally from just four women. These four "founder lineages" were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" Thats not even half so it hardley speaks for everyone.

Second of all...its not proven, its just an assumption. Hence the *likely*.

Third of all...Even if it was true it wouldnt mean anything because if you want to go back to origins, we are all sub sahran Africans, I think. So even if this was true, which it may or may not be, and even if it was true, it doesnt even apply to half the Ashkenazi, what would be your point?

White British/Irish person.

I'm a chink. :D

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Third of all...Even if it was true it wouldnt mean anything because if you want to go back to origins, we are all sub sahran Africans, I think. So even if this was true, which it may or may not be, and even if it was true, it doesnt even apply to half the Ashkenazi, what would be your point?
:p That would be going 60 000 years back.

I have always found ethnicity polls or questions to be largely inadequate. What differencitates hispanic and white.. they can be the same <.<

Im Greek, and Argentinean... so what does that make me ?

I have always found ethnicity polls or questions to be largely inadequate. What differencitates hispanic and white.. they can be the same <.<
Yes, I don't get that distinction either. Some hispanics have different blood to caucasians due to mixing with other ethnicities in South America, yet many have purely caucasian lineages.

Im Greek, and Argentinean... so what does that make me ?
Greco-argentinian? :p

I am Yugoslavian and German.

I am African American. But I'm also Asian American.... so I guess that makes me a Blasian American :)

More specifically, I'm one-half Chinese, one quarter black, and one quarter white. But I think I might have some Native American in me, but as far as I know, and I'll reiterate, I'm half Asian, a quarter black and a quarter white.

French-Huguenot background.

I'm sorry, but there's no "Uralic" type. There's no DNA evidence for significant genetic relations between different groups of Uralic language speakers. Finns, for example, are closest related to Belgians or Germans. The Sami are aboriginal European-origin isolates. Some Asian people also speak Uralic languages. But, the logic isn't watertight: many people of African origin speak languages related to Norwegian, therefore the Norwegians are Africans.

Well, The Genographic Project (https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html) appears to think there is a genetic link. Look for LLY22G.

I'm not sure where you got this information you appear put so much confidence in, but to me you're just some bloke on the internet. No offence meant, but I cannot consider you a reliable source of information It is more reasonable from my position to rely on what National Geographic reports about DNA traces between Uralic speakers, not to mention what I've been taught in school. It would only be reasonable anyway, as you yourself point out that they all speak Uralic languages, which would indicate a cultural link. Even more so than genetic markers, I would say. And when I talk about Uralic ethnicity, I mean, of course, culture, not genetics.

I'm not familiar with who these African speakers you talk about are, but I assume you do not mean Africans who have immigrated to countries where indo-european languages are spoken and learned one of those languages, or Africans living in or near land settled by colonists speaking indo-european tongues. This leaves me somewhat at a loss as to how you can reasonably explain why these Africans would speak a language related to indo-european, unless these Africans are of indo-european descent, i.e. the descendants of some indo-european tribe that migrated all the way to Africa. In which case, they would share genetic markers with Norwegians.

Anyway, your arguments are thin. I still think it's reasonable to use the term "Uralic".

Yep, that's even more proof why "Uralic" isn't an ethnicity.

Good point, now that you mention it. Sami languages separated from Baltic Finnic in 1000-1500 BC, so a "Finno-Samic ethnicity" would be comparable to a "Germanic ethnicity". Are the Swedes, Englishmen, Germans the same?

Well. Yes, basically. There are not very great differences, neither in language nor in culture. The split between different Germanic languages didn't really come until well into the AD, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Well, The Genographic Project (https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html) appears to think there is a genetic link. Look for LLY22G.


I'm not familiar with who these African speakers you talk about are, but I assume you do not mean Africans who have immigrated to countries where indo-european languages are spoken and learned one of those languages, or Africans living in or near land settled by colonists speaking indo-european tongues. This leaves me somewhat at a loss as to how you can reasonably explain why these Africans would speak a language related to indo-european, unless these Africans are of indo-european descent, i.e. the descendants of some indo-european tribe that migrated all the way to Africa. In which case, they would share genetic markers with Norwegians.
lol he actually believes Norwegians are Africans? :p Maybe 60 000 years ago.




Well. Yes, basically. There are not very great differences, neither in language nor in culture. The split between different Germanic languages didn't really come until well into the AD, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Germanic languages do indeed share much in common, and Germanic cultures are not that different one from the other.

1/2 German, 1/4 Swedish, 1/8 Irish,and a jumbled up mess of everything from French, to Norwegian, to English, to Canadian Indian. What did they all have in commmon? I'm sure they were all poor peasant farmers who couldn't support themselves due to falling agricultural prices during the industrial revolution. That's what America is, a combination of Europe's failures.

lol he actually believes Norwegians are Africans? :p Maybe 60 000 years ago.

Errr.. I hope that's not me you think thinks Norwegians are Africans.

100% Extraterrestrial

Errr.. I hope that's not me you think thinks Norwegians are Africans.
Then I would refer to you specifically, and not the third person. :)

Cracker, various assorted types.

I am African American. But I'm also Asian American.... so I guess that makes me a Blasian American :)

More specifically, I'm one-half Chinese, one quarter black, and one quarter white. But I think I might have some Native American in me, but as far as I know, and I'll reiterate, I'm half Asian, a quarter black and a quarter white.

I've always thought you were rathe blase`.

(looks at the post count,)

Well, not really. But I can't resist a pun.

You tell me. (http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2755/minime2pv.jpg)

Silly question.

Alemannic German and Ukrainian.

Ukrainian, Irish, Welsh ..and if you go back far enough French.

(A Ukranian in Alberta... what are the odds?)

Pretty good, I've heard. My dad gets Ukrainian radio from Alberta.

:p That would be going 60 000 years back.

My point exactly. Any more than even 1000 years is just pointless.

My point exactly. Any more than even 1000 years is just pointless.
Well I would put it back to 6000 years, around when the first civilisations began emerging and national identities, of a sort, began forming.

Well I would put it back to 6000 years, around when the first civilisations began emerging and national identities, of a sort, began forming.

Yeah, on second thought, maybe not 1000 years...Actually that doesnt seem that long ago, in hindsight...sort of.

Yeah, on second thought, maybe not 1000 years...Actually that doesnt seem that long ago, in hindsight...sort of.
Exactly. 6000 years ago, or approximately around that, marks the beginning of the first major civilisations.

100% Dutch, with a little bit of Hugenot French.

100% Dutch, with a little bit of Hugenot French.

Math is fun!

Age:22

Sex: Female

Ethnicity: White. Not blonde-haired and blue eyed in the slightest.

Ancient Heritage: At one time, possibly Spanish/Italian. No resemblance as such runs in the family.

Born: Wegburg, Germany.

Family History: Links to Eyam Plague and the Pre-Raphaelite painters. Lucky gits, back then....

Citizen of: Britain. Was born abroad as father was a RAF engineer. Sister was born in Wales. Both parents British born and bred for generations.

Religion: Was christened, but if Id had the choice would not have been. I dont favour any religion in particular, but am perfectly OK with people practising theirs (unless violence, death and torture is involved. Then Human Rights plays a part....). Was christened so I could marry in a church. Marry? Hello? And in a church? get real. Im not shuffling down an aisle of twittering, bitching relatives looking like a mobile meringue...Im going to raise my future children out of wedlock, and let my fathers family sue me.

At the very basic level, we're all human. Period. End of subject. You dont see elephants or chuffing pidgeons ostracise a member for being an odd colour (I personally like seeing that one brown and white pidgeon in the sea of grey) so I dont see why people should. We all evolved, and live on a planet with an abundance of weathers, terrains and foodstuffs, so obviously there will be diferences. Get over it.

My fathers family would have a heart attack if I married someone who wasnt pure-as-the-driven-snow white. Wouldnt matter if he was a convicted pedephile and worshipped Hitler.
My maternal grandmother would have a bigger heart attack-my mum would be open-minded but wary for me and my spouse. She is her mothers daughter, after all.

For some people this is too big a deal. Hence this poll, I suspect....

German/English/Scottish/Irish/Dutch/French Hugenot and probably some other things I don't even know about. i.e. Mutt American...

100% Dutch, with a little bit of Hugenot French.

You need to recheck your math. 100% Dutch leaves no space for other little bits.

1/2 English, 1/4 Croatian and 1/4 German. I've got that dual nationality dealy, American and English. Born and raised in the USA though.

Euro mongrel :D

Irish-English-Scottish-Norweigen-Swiss. Mostly Irish, though my name is Scottish and I look quite heavily Scandanavian (with the exception of my hair, which is very muddy, and my eyes, which aren't really any colour).
And I'm female, which alot of people seem to be confused about.

Scottish and Polish.....