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At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats as they have shown that not even a funeral will stop them from bashing Bush. Jeez.

This is not the only disrespect for the dead. Every once in a while, when a famous person dies, or anyone for that matter. I always hear the too common phrase "Thank God (or Yay) she/he's dead." Wow... That is just crude. I mean just because you may not agree with a person point of view on issues, doesn't mean you should be happy that they are dead. Comon people, let's show more respect to the dead than we currently do.

I think one's funeral should honor one's life.

She was a political activist. I can think of no better tribute to her than to continue the fight against corruption and malfeasance.

I say ROCK ON.

I think one's funeral should honor one's life.

She was a political activist. I can think of no better tribute to her than to continue the fight against corruption and malfeasance.

I say ROCK ON.

Yea, God forbid they actually talk about HER! :rolleyes:

they just want to take every opportunity to prevent bush from being reelected.

they just want to take every opportunity to prevent bush from being reelected.

Understandable!

Who the hell is Coretta Scott King?

Who the hell is Coretta Scott King?

Wife of Martin Luther King

At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats
Wow, why wasn't I informed that Rev. Joseph Lowery and Jimmy Carter constituted the entire Democratic party?

Wow, why wasn't I informed that Rev. Joseph Lowery and Jimmy Carter constituted the entire Democratic party?

More to the point, it's not as though there's any love lost between the attendees that you would expect to be there, and President Bush.

The head of the NAACP never loses a second chance to describe Bush as Hitler, and I would have been surprised if they hadn't said something vitriolic.

I'm wondering why people are surprised. It's their icon that died, their church, their audience, their sympathizers - what did you expect them to say? That they love Bush?

Wow, why wasn't I informed that Rev. Joseph Lowery and Jimmy Carter constituted the entire Democratic party?
What?! You weren't aware of that? Those two HAVE been the Dems since 1978. They just use disguises and mirrors to make it look like there's more of them. Kerry was really Carter in disguise and Hilary is just Lowery in drag.

they just want to take every opportunity to prevent bush from being reelected.
Uhm....two term limit?

Uhm....two term limit?
Shhhh... they want the illusion that even the Repulicans don't want Bush when his name's not on the ballot.

More to the point, it's not as though there's any love lost between the attendees that you would expect to be there, and President Bush.

The head of the NAACP never loses a second chance to describe Bush as Hitler, and I would have been surprised if they hadn't said something vitriolic.

I'm wondering why people are surprised. It's their icon that died, their church, their audience, their sympathizers - what did you expect them to say? That they love Bush?I would rather, they spoke of the acheivements this woman has done.

not use it as a political platform... even if she was a political figure.

More to the point, it's not as though there's any love lost between the attendees that you would expect to be there, and President Bush.

The head of the NAACP never loses a second chance to describe Bush as Hitler, and I would have been surprised if they hadn't said something vitriolic.

I'm wondering why people are surprised. It's their icon that died, their church, their audience, their sympathizers - what did you expect them to say? That they love Bush?
Quick, Slander-boy! To the Tangent-mobile!

I would rather, they spoke of the acheivements this woman has done.

not use it as a political platform... even if she was a political figure.

Most political figures (and a lot were invited to speak) have a flame generating organ installed at birth.

They can't help it, any more than Rush can help what he says on his show.

Probably the nicest thing said at the funeral was by Clinton, who said that he was wondering what her children were thinking - what were they remembering about their mother.

Yes, as was said in the movie Primary Colors, I can't tell if he really believes the stuff he says, or is a bullshitter, but it sounds nice. A lot nicer than the other stuff I heard.

Quick, Slander-boy! To the Tangent-mobile!
If I had said that they loved Bush, that would be slander in their eyes.

They only spoke about what was on their minds - that they hate Bush. It's probably a more emotional subject for them than any dead person - in fact, it's probably salt in their grieving to have Bush show up.

appaling acts like this just proves that I made the right choice when I became a Libertarian.

appaling acts like this just proves that I made the right choice when I became a Libertarian.
Well, if you're really a libertarian, then you should be right up with the idea of free speech, which includes their right to be angry, offensive, and talk about anything and everything that springs to mind and comes out of their mouths.

Well, if you're really a libertarian, then you should be right up with the idea of free speech, which includes their right to be angry, offensive, and talk about anything and everything that springs to mind and comes out of their mouths.

I am, but theres a time to show your hatred of Bush, and there is time to show revrence for the dead. Guess which time it was during the funeral.

I am, but theres a time to show your hatred of Bush, and there is time to show revrence for the dead. Guess which time it was during the funeral.
Like I said, I'm not surprised, and I really don't care if they want to say things like that.

Like I said, I'm not surprised, and I really don't care if they want to say things like that.

It's just bad taste, that's all it is, just bad taste.

Shhhh... they want the illusion that even the Repulicans don't want Bush when his name's not on the ballot.

I think that the 2006 mid-term election will decide that, don't you? :)

To be honest, I very much doubt the deceased is losing any sleep over it... or, considering her history, that she would have lost sleep over it if she'd known in advance...

Eh? So it was alright when Bush tried to turn the death of 2000th american soldier into a political platform?

"Each loss of life is heartbreaking. And the best way to honor the sacrifice of our fallen troops is to complete the mission and lay the foundation of peace by spreading freedom." - Bush

edit: the biggest honour you can bestow upon the dead is carry on with their work. It sends out the message that what did was of incredible importance.

Eh? So it was alright when Bush tried to turn the death of 2000th american soldier into a political platform?

"Each loss of life is heartbreaking. And the best way to honor the sacrifice of our fallen troops is to complete the mission and lay the foundation of peace by spreading freedom." - Bush

And.. while we are on that subject... was I the only person who felt somewhat sickened to see the Republicans campaigning just before the last elections, practically IN the remains of the WTC?

I am, but theres a time to show your hatred of Bush, and there is time to show revrence for the dead. Guess which time it was during the funeral.
Miller time?

I didn't see, probably because I don't live in the US.

I didn't see, probably because I don't live in the US.
It was six hours long. Most people didn't watch the whole thing.

At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats as they have shown that not even a funeral will stop them from bashing Bush. Jeez.

This is not the only disrespect for the dead. Every once in a while, when a famous person dies, or anyone for that matter. I always hear the too common phrase "Thank God (or Yay) she/he's dead." Wow... That is just crude. I mean just because you may not agree with a person point of view on issues, doesn't mean you should be happy that they are dead. Comon people, let's show more respect to the dead than we currently do.
Good luck w-dat. Lack of restraint seems to be rampant in the political arena these days. IMHO, this is the end result of people constantly carping "we never have any real choices!" Well, now you do. Of course you also have attack ads, mud-slinging, vituperation, and people using anything ( even funerals ) as a bloody political pulpit.

Oh yeah, and people who threaten to leave the country when their particular mud-slinger isn't elected. Madness. Just madness. :headbang:

I think one's funeral should honor one's life.

She was a political activist. I can think of no better tribute to her than to continue the fight against corruption and malfeasance.

I say ROCK ON.
Mrs. King lived a life attempting to change government. A life dedicated to the evils of government. I know it's hard for those that don't remember the era of 1963-1974 to believe that people actually tried to change government to make it more moral, more truthful, more in tune to the common people, more equal, more dedicated to the Christian ideal of peace and fairness. That is the era that was being remembered. I don't remember once where Dr. King ever turned down an opportunity to tell the leaders the evils of their actions. I don't think the speaches were anti Bush as much as anti evil policy, anti unnecessity of war as a first option, anti punishment of the weak and poor for the benefit of the rich and strong, anti massive debt for the children and grandchildren in order to make the rich richer,...............

What type of memory would you want for a person that spent her life fighting evil than to tell people of the work that still is before us. Work that has waned in the last 25 years. Work that is the only real memorial to a great person.

Would it be better to say "she's dead the dream is dead"? We are now going to ignore the evils of government. No one need try to improve the future.

It was six hours long. Most people didn't watch the whole thing.
Public funerals are really overblown: come on, how long does it take to chuck someone in the ground and say a few nice things about them?

Public funerals are really overblown: come on, how long does it take to chuck someone in the ground and say a few nice things about them?

I would quote a line from a song in the musical Oklahoma, but I am afraid that it will be considered in too bad taste.

Unlike most political situations, there's a moderator here.

Eh? So it was alright when Bush tried to turn the death of 2000th american soldier into a political platform?

"Each loss of life is heartbreaking. And the best way to honor the sacrifice of our fallen troops is to complete the mission and lay the foundation of peace by spreading freedom." - Bush

edit: the biggest honour you can bestow upon the dead is carry on with their work. It sends out the message that what did was of incredible importance.


I would just a quick snap at Bush for that. The bottom line is, it's not right to use a person's death for your own political gain. I hate Bush for doing it, I hate Cindy Sheehan for doing it and I hate these two people at Scott King's funeral for doing it.

Jimmy Carters' attempt to bash Bush backfired on him. He slandered the Kennedy administration and Bobby Kennedy when he said they wiretapped the phones of MLK Jr. And the funny thing was, Teddy Kennedy was sitting right there, and Carter said it anyway. You would think old Ted would be furious at Carter for bashing his dead brother, but then he is very confused about intercepting cell phone calls, which use the same airwaves that radio or tv use, and phone taps, which are on landbased wires.

Remember when those folks in Florida heard a cell phone call between two republicans, and gave it to Baghdad Jim McDermit, who in turn gave the recording to the NY Times. The silent rage, from the democrats, on this invasion of privacy, was just deafening.

At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats as they have shown that not even a funeral will stop them from bashing Bush. Jeez.

This is not the only disrespect for the dead. Every once in a while, when a famous person dies, or anyone for that matter. I always hear the too common phrase "Thank God (or Yay) she/he's dead." Wow... That is just crude. I mean just because you may not agree with a person point of view on issues, doesn't mean you should be happy that they are dead. Comon people, let's show more respect to the dead than we currently do.

As others have said, she was a political figure. So there was a place for politics, and if she disapproved of Bush (I don't know if she did or not), then they're fine.

Of course I can be happy someone I hate is dead. I don't owe someone I hate my respect. That same goes for other people, too.

As others have said, she was a political figure. So there was a place for politics, and if she disapproved of Bush (I don't know if she did or not), then they're fine.

Of course I can be happy someone I hate is dead. I don't owe someone I hate my respect. That same goes for other people, too.

Well She did speak out for affirmative action so in that aspect yes......

At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats as they have shown that not even a funeral will stop them from bashing Bush. Jeez.


Eh? Shrubby is doing the same thing with all his "praise" of her.

Eh? Shrubby is doing the same thing with all his "praise" of her.
I agree. It's my opinion that by offerring her praise while ignoring the ideals she and her husband both fought for proffers much more disrespect than critisizing a political official for betraying those ideals. People spend way too much time ignoring many of the things that the Kings fought for.

I'm talking about gay rights, and affirmative action, of government accountability and truth, and of welfare programs. People like to pretend that the Kings' struggles were limited solely to the civil rights movement, when in reality they fought for all of these things. Martin Luther King was also an outspoken anti-war activist during the vietnam war. He also had a tendency to deliver politically charged eulogies. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/8/133111/3227

Coretta Scott King spent much of her life denouncing many Republican policies. I do not think it is innapropriate to speak against some of those same policies at her funeral, but instead the best way to honor her life and struggles.

At Coretta Scott King funeral, Jimmy Carter and the Rev. Joseph Lowery used her funeral as a place to critize Bush. I mean comon, can't we just put aside politics for ONE freakin day to honor Coretta Scott King? Apparently not. This is a new low for the Democrats as they have shown that not even a funeral will stop them from bashing Bush. Jeez.

This is not the only disrespect for the dead. Every once in a while, when a famous person dies, or anyone for that matter. I always hear the too common phrase "Thank God (or Yay) she/he's dead." Wow... That is just crude. I mean just because you may not agree with a person point of view on issues, doesn't mean you should be happy that they are dead. Comon people, let's show more respect to the dead than we currently do.

You know, something is seriously wrong when the most respectful speaker at a civil rights icon's funeral is Bill Clinton. That's just... mind-blowing.

Yea, God forbid they actually talk about HER! :rolleyes:


Its not about her- its always about them. And I love how they can all argue thats the way she would have wanted it.

All smug, self serving, opportunistic scum-bags. Some eulogy, huh?

I'll admit that Bill Clinton was the most dignified. Can you imagine depending on him to remind people that there was a deceased lady their to honor and respect? He's the one reminding of common decency?

President Bush and his father were decent and respectful.

The rest were deplorable low lifes.

Its not about her- its always about them. And I love how they can all argue thats the way she would have wanted it.

All smug, self serving, opportunistic scum-bags. Some eulogy, huh?

I'll admit that Bill Clinton was the most dignified. Can you imagine depending on him to remind people that there was a deceased lady their to honor and respect? He's the one reminding of common decency?

President Bush and his father were decent and respectful.

The rest were deplorable low lifes.


Yes, Clinton's remarks were the best.

What I'm appalled by from both black political groups and Democrats alike is this psuedo-history - that Republicans are, were, always have been, and always will be, enemies of the blacks and that Democrats have always, always been the friends of the blacks.

I've shocked more than one black person by informing them that Lincoln was a Republican.

This web page has some interesting tidbits on the nature of the pseudohistory that the Democrats have been playing as real:

http://members.tripod.com/%7EGOPcapitalist/democratrecord.html

I think that at the funeral of a political activist, it is appropriate to discuss and remember what she had fought for.

But I do think that statements made about Iraq were inapropriate.

I think that at the funeral of a political activist, it is appropriate to discuss and remember what she had fought for.

But I do think that statements made about Iraq were inapropriate.

It's never stopped anyone in the past.