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Personal sentiments, aside (go an debate the permutations in another thread), how many posters have actually seen the recent cartoons. The link is below:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698

Having observed the below, how many posters now consider the frankly fallacious recation of the Islamic world in the slightest justified, or the publication of the cartoons to be wrong?

No, I think the reaction is absurd and just making things much worse overall. I find the rape of little girls, the endorsement of domestic violence, warmongering, etc. offensive, myself.

The Muslim reaction has been absurd.

However, you've got to take into account the fact that those harmless cartoons published in a regional Danish newspaper in September probably aren't what caused the outcry, the fake cartoons added by the Islamic Society of Denmark when it toured the Dar al Islam to raise awareness probably are.

Cartoons depicting Mohammed as:

Being sodomized by a dog while praying.

A turbaned pig.

A "paedophile demon" with strangled infants in his hands.

The organisation added these cartoons to "draw a line under the incident", apparently. Lovely.

The cartoons are rather stupid, for the most part. They're not actually offensive, but neither do they have any point besides being offensive. They're like "your mamma" jokes.

The cartoons are rather stupid, for the most part. They're not actually offensive, but neither do they have any point besides being offensive. They're like "your mamma" jokes.
Yo prophet jokes? I like it!

I condemn the violent protestors but I also condemn those who deliberately inflame tensions between groups for no valid reason.

Yo prophet jokes? I like it!

Yo prophet so fat the mountain goes to him?;)

Yo prophet so fat the mountain goes to him?;)
LOL nice.

No, I think the reaction is absurd and just making things much worse overall. I find the rape of little girls, the endorsement of domestic violence, warmongering, etc. offensive, myself.

I find the rape of little girls, the endorsement of domestic violence, warmongering, etc. offensive, myself.

Probably don't like the Church much either then, eh?

When a film of Christ comes out that portray him as a real man there are protests by those who haven't even seen the film.
The Catholic church won't permit the filming of 'The DaVinci Code' in any church because they find it offensive.
A cartoon portraying Christ in a real situation is shown there are protests.
The only difference in the reaction of the portrayal of Mohammed is the level of reaction. I do not support the destruction of property and the rioting, but there ARE similarities in the reaction to what is offensive to them.
Think about it........

When a film of Christ comes out that portray him as a real man there are protests by those who haven't even seen the film.
The Catholic church won't permit the filming of 'The DaVinci Code' in any church because they find it offensive. A cartoon portraying Christ in a real situation is shown there are protests.
The only difference in the reaction of the portrayal of Mohammed is the level of reaction. I do not support the destruction of property and the rioting, but there ARE similarities in the reaction to what is offensive to them.
Think about it........

No, because the Da Vinci Code is full of shit. It was written by a drunk, incontinent chimp.

My personal opinion of course :)

The only difference in the reaction of the portrayal of Mohammed is the level of reaction.
And that is precisely the point. We can all get offended in some way, but we aren't all going to firebomb embassies because of it.

No, because the Da Vinci Code is full of shit. It was written by a drunk, incontinent chimp.

My personal opinion of course :)

Ah, but he was talking about the catholic church's opinion.

Wait... Are you the pope? The pope is on NS!



Anyway, the picture with the multiple suspects was a rather clever way of avoiding the depicting prohibition, I think.

When a film of Christ comes out that portray him as a real man there are protests by those who haven't even seen the film.

I know it is a real shame since The Last Temptation of Christ is a faithful rendition of the book, and a beautiful piece of work in its own right.

Yo prophet jokes? I like it!
That needs it's own thread if not it's own massivly popular site.

Yo prophet so fat, he prayed for God to part the sea and was miracled a diving board.

When a film of Christ comes out that portray him as a real man there are protests by those who haven't even seen the film. ......The Jews went bananas about the Movie.. (Before the Movie was finished)

and since it was the Jews.. the US slaped it with an R rating..

I just found out something veeeerry interesting. If we didn't have about 10,000 Cartoon-Threads already, I'd start a new one.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,399653,00.html
This all would have been very well if the paper had a long tradition of standing up for fearless artistic expression. But it so happens that three years ago, Jyllands-Posten refused to publish cartoons portraying Jesus, on the grounds that they would offend readers. According to a report in the Guardian, which was provided with a letter from the cartoonist, Christoffer Zieler, the editor explained back then, "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them." When confronted with the old rejection letter, the editor, Jens Kaiser, said, "It is ridiculous to bring this forward now. It has nothing to do with the Muhammad cartoons." But why does it not? Can you offend Muslim readers but not Christian readers? "In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons," Kaiser said. "That's the difference."

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,399840,00.html

No, it got an R rating because he gets the holy hell beat out of him with greusome, and pretty bad, special effects. The people who set the ratings are evangelical soccer moms. If people like me were responsible for film ratings there'd be none or G and everything else. Any film with a prolonged scene of torture in it will get an R. TPoTC has more than it's share.

No, it got an R rating because he gets the holy hell beat out of him with greusome, and pretty bad, special effects.Have you seen the movie?

Yes, the scourging scene was easily enough to get the R rating on it's own.

An Egyptian paper ran the cartoons in October.
http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

Ahem... dropping the movie deal, this whole cartoon thing has been a complete disgrace to the Muslim population. That's been said by the Muslim leaders themselves.

I honestly don't think any recent Christian protect (if any) could amount to the embarrassment that the Muslim religion is gaining right now through these protests. While there are Christian extremists, I think there seem to be far more Muslim extremists who don't have a sense a humor.

Which, in some cases, can be a good thing.

What amazes me more than anything else is the intense media outcry against the violent reactions the cartoons have caused and the complete absence of the inclusion of the cartoons, or even a link to them for that matter, in their articles. Actually, this thread is the first place I have found a link to the cartoons and have seen them for myself.

One would think that mainstream media is being cowed by Muslim extremists.

Personal sentiments, aside (go an debate the permutations in another thread), how many posters have actually seen the recent cartoons. The link is below:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698

Having observed the below, how many posters now consider the frankly fallacious recation of the Islamic world in the slightest justified, or the publication of the cartoons to be wrong?

#1: isn't funny or offensive. I don't get it.
#2: Saying he is dead and an angel...why is that offensive?
#3: What does that mean?
#4: Well he was a warrior at one point so maybe they are showing that image. I think they are saying: he is blind to force the women to cover up. Though, he didn't. This practice was started after he died.
#5: This one was funny. I mean, telling the suicide bombers, " we ran out of virgins" is funny. That is why they do it and all.
#6: is making fun of the newspaper not islam.
#7: Isn't funny or offensive...
#8: I don't think I get that one...
#9: Or that...
#10: Not offensive...
#11: Offensive, but aimed at terrorist I think. Unless it is a ticking time bomv. And I agree no prophetic succession and just caliphs was a ticking time bomb for bad news.
#12: This says it is a PR stunt.

An Egyptian paper ran the cartoons in October.
http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.htmlAnd then there's this- http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/.