ADL Statement on cartoons
http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/default.htm
ADL Statement on Danish Cartoons Depicting Mohammed
New York, NY, February 2, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) issued the following statement in response to the controversy stemming from the twelve cartoons depicting Mohammed featured in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten and reprinted in other European newspapers:
ADL is opposed to religious, racial and ethnic stereotyping in the media. We found some of the cartoons in Jyllands-Posten troubling, particularly the direct linkage of Mohammad and violence.
At the same time, we are gravely concerned by the extreme violent reaction these cartoons have generated in Muslim communities in Europe, and particularly in the Middle East. It is certainly the right of individuals and governments to express their disagreement with these depictions. However, the use of violence, threats, boycotts and other extreme reactions are highly inappropriate and bode ill for future debates involving Islam, democracy and free speech.
What has been overlooked in the controversy is the fact that despicable anti-Jewish caricatures appear daily in newspapers across the Arab and Muslim world. While invoking the supposed "freedom of the press" in their countries, Arab and Muslim leaders have refused to take any action to stem the drumbeat of anti-Semitism in widely circulated newspapers, many state-sponsored. Indeed, leaders of regimes such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia have virtually ignored appeals from the United States and Jewish organizations to put an end to incitement in their media, excusing it in the name of "freedom of the press." One would hope that leaders of Arab and Muslim countries would turn all of the anger being aimed at the European press into a larger lesson for their own people about the power of images.
ADL is strongly committed to free speech and freedom of the press – principles we consider the cornerstones of democracy. In a democratic society, newspapers need to be free to publish controversial content without fear of censorship or intimidation of their writers and editors. At the same time, newspapers and all media outlets should to take into account the sensitivities of racial, ethnic and religious groups.
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.
http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/arab_media_portrayal_jews.htm
This is a good one
I like this one, its urging tact but not calling for legislature forcing it; brilliant. Good on them for pointing out the double-standard, but is this really unexpected?
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 04:38
I just printed those out and I'm going to bring them into school tomorrow.
I'm going to show them to my liberal arab-loving teachers, and show them to all my friends.
I just printed those out and I'm going to bring them into school tomorrow.
I'm going to show them to my liberal arab-loving teachers, and show them to all my friends.
Tell me what the hypocrites say.
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 04:45
Tell me what the hypocrites say.
Of course. :p
Oh man, I cant wait.
I always knew that the a-rabs posted this kinda shit, I just never saw it first hand before.
Of course. :p
Oh man, I cant wait.
I always knew that the a-rabs posted this kinda shit, I just never saw it first hand before.
http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/arab_media_portrayal_jews.htm
These cartoons are some of the sickest examples. The ADL has thousands of examples on their site. They keep a good record of it. Too bad the rest of the media won't show these to completely discredit the Muslims.
Their articles they write are just as bad. They treat the bullshit forgery "Protocols of Elder Zion" as a real publication. They justify their positions based on the fact they believe it is a true plan for Jewish control of the world. Every true historian has claimed the Protocols is pure bullshit written by Czarist Russia to justify and incite pogroms.
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 05:27
I dont think your title was good because your not getting any posts on this thread. You suck at advertising, lol. This is upsetting, its one the most important posts on here right now, and no one is posting on it.
Lacadaemon
09-02-2006, 05:30
How reasonable, and not all 'burning random unrelated shit down' of them. I am shocked at the moderate 'lack of death threats and calls for beheadings' response.
Oh wait....I'm not.
Lacadaemon
09-02-2006, 05:32
Though it does explain why there are going to be demonstrations at the danish consulate in NY tomorrow.
I hope Keruvlia condemns that, given NYCs utter lack of involvment in the whole thing.
I dont think your title was good because your not getting any posts on this thread. You suck at advertising, lol. This is upsetting, its one the most important posts on here right now, and no one is posting on it.
Probably true. There is a reason I'm studying Nuclear Engineering instead of marketing.
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 23:31
Well, I brought these cartoons into school today.
The Chinese Republics
09-02-2006, 23:35
Well, I brought these cartoons into school today.I don't think it is a really good idea... :eek:
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In other news...
Stop reprinting Muhammad cartoons, UN chief pleads (http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/02/09/cartoons-annan060209.html)
Last Updated Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:02:42 EST
CBC News
United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan wishes editors wouldn't get so worked up about freedom of expression that they feel justified reprinting the Muhammad cartoons that have enraged some Muslims in recent days.
"Let me say that, honestly, I do not understand why any newspaper will publish the cartoons today," Annan told reporters in New York City on Thursday.
"It is insensitive. It is offensive. It is provocative, and they should see what has happened around the world.
"This does not mean that I am against freedom of speech, or freedom of the press. Yes, I am for that.
"But as I have indicated in the past, freedom of speech is not a licence. It does entail exercising responsibility and judgment, and quite honestly I cannot understand why any editor will publish cartoons at this time, which inflames and pours oil on the fire."
The 12 cartoons, published in a Denmark newspaper in September, have been reprinted in more than 20 countries since a series of sometimes violent protests erupted in Muslim countries in the past two weeks. In Canada, they have appeared in Montreal's Le Devoir and The Cadre, the student paper at the University of Prince Edward Island.
Many Muslims consider any depiction of Muhammad to be blasphemous and reject ideas of fair comment where he is concerned. In one of the cartoons, Muhammad is shown wearing a turban in the shape of a bomb with a burning fuse. In another, he is seen telling suicide bombers arriving in heaven that there are no virgins left.
In the past week, at least 11 Afghans died in protests – some of them shot by police as a mob stormed a camp where Norwegian and Finnish troops are based. Demonstrators also set fire to the Danish Embassy in Beirut and the embassies of Denmark and Norway in Damascus.
U.S. officials, among others, have suggested the protests are being stage managed by radical groups and anti-Western governments such as Syria's, which is not known for tolerating spontaneous demonstrations.
Annan declined to be drawn into that argument.
"As to the question of whether some governments are manipulating this, it's difficult for me to say," he said. "I have no evidence to that effect.
"This is so widespread, and it is unfortunate that we all need to take steps to calm the situation. And whatever the anger of those concerned, violence is not the answer.
"They should not attack innocent civilians. They should not attack people who are not responsible for the publication of the cartoons. Whether it is a general condemnation of Denmark, or Europeans, it is wrong. They should really avoid doing that and violence must be condemned as unacceptable."
Annan was similarly agnostic on questions of free expression.
"I often say it is a bit like religion. If there is a problem, it is not with the faith, but the faithful. It is not the text, it is the way we interpret it."
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I agree with him.
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 23:37
I don't think it is a really good idea... :eek:
No, it was a great idea. I showed it to all my classmates and teachers. I made sure my arab loving teachers saw what the arabs publish in their magazines. Some of my teachers are so blinded my political correctness its INSANE.
The Chinese Republics
09-02-2006, 23:42
No, it was a great idea. I showed it to all my classmates and teachers. I made sure my arab loving teachers saw what the arabs publish in their magazines. Some of my teachers are so blinded my political correctness its INSANE.Good thing you didn't get suspended for that. ;)
The Atlantian islands
09-02-2006, 23:52
Good thing you didn't get suspended for that. ;)
Are you kidding, my teachers were shocked. They were so appalled by what the Arabs do and of the hypocrisy of it. I only had one teacher that still sided with the arabs over it....shes the biggest political correctness freak ever, AND she double majored in French in college, lol.
The kids were shocked too....they never saw those cartoons before.
Anyway no teachers reported me, most of them agreed with me ;)
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 00:09
I don't think it is a really good idea... :eek: I agree with him.
Eh, too late. Anyway, the pictures I'm talking about are the ones that the arabs posted about the Jews in the arab media...click on the links that are posted in the Orginal Post.
Atlantian Islands: I don't say this much about people, but you my friend have serious balls. Good job bringing that in to school today.
Europa Maxima
10-02-2006, 02:20
No, it was a great idea. I showed it to all my classmates and teachers. I made sure my arab loving teachers saw what the arabs publish in their magazines. Some of my teachers are so blinded my political correctness its INSANE.
Yeah, it annoys me too. Even at uni, PC is rampant. :headbang:
Yeah, it annoys me too. Even at uni, PC is rampant. :headbang:
Especially on campuses. Campuses are full of PC people. I'm the anti-PC man. I will say that I'm surprised no one has called me a baby killer when they've seen me in uniform, but then again Purdue is one of the more conservative campuses in America.
Europa Maxima
10-02-2006, 02:26
Especially on campuses. Campuses are full of PC people. I'm the anti-PC man. I will say that I'm surprised no one has called me a baby killer when they've seen me in uniform, but then again Purdue is one of the more conservative campuses in America.
Yes, I am careful sometimes not to say too much, because people are sooo quick to label you. I do get quite vocal on certain things though, regardless of how people act.
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:05
Yes, I am careful sometimes not to say too much, because people are sooo quick to label you. I do get quite vocal on certain things though, regardless of how people act.
Eh...I've been labeled far right all the time...including tonight when we were arguing about the Rabs and their cartoons of Jews....some liberal even called me a Neo-Nazi once...I just told her I was Jewish and she got real quiet so, eh...I'll continue fighting PC, liberalism...and arab loving, where ever I can find it.
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:06
Atlantian Islands: I don't say this much about people, but you my friend have serious balls. Good job bringing that in to school today.
Eh, you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm still in high school but I'm sure the whole liberal, arab loving community only gets worse when I get to college.
Keruvalia
10-02-2006, 07:06
Wow ... someone actually listens to the ADL?
Awesome.
Well, ok ... suit yourself ... nothing like a collaborative collective telling you what to be offended by.
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck the ADL.
*coff*
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:11
Wow ... someone actually listens to the ADL?
Awesome.
Well, ok ... suit yourself ... nothing like a collaborative collective telling you what to be offended by.
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck the ADL.
*coff*
Or...maybe I have to go them to find the anti semetic articles and Nazi propaganda the arab world posts because our left wing media wont show it.
Fuck the A-rabs.
*coff*
Keruvalia
10-02-2006, 07:13
Or...maybe I have to go them to find the anti semetic articles and Nazi propaganda the arab world posts because our left wing media wont show it.
They show it all the time ... or did you forget, the US is at war with the Arabs ...
Fuck the A-rabs.
Good thing I'm not Arab ... I'm you people's worst nightmare ... a White, Blue Eyed, Jewish Muslim ... you can't isolate me as "The Enemy" ... :eek: What're you gonna do in the airport?! :D
[/sarcasm]
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:18
They show it all the time ... or did you forget, the US is at war with the Arabs ...
Good thing I'm not Arab ... I'm you people's worst nightmare ... a White, Blue Eyed, Jewish Muslim ... you can't isolate me as "The Enemy" ... :eek: What're you gonna do in the airport?! :D
[/sarcasm]
How can you be a Jewish muslim?
Thats like saying your a Hindu Christian.
The Similized world
10-02-2006, 07:25
Well, ok ... suit yourself ... nothing like a collaborative collective telling you what to be offended by.
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck the ADL.
*coff*Remind me, weren't you pushing a list of Qu'ran reasons explaining why the JP drawings offends you - just yestoday?
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck whatever religions you blindly obey.
And here's a drawing for you, my friend.
_o_
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Muhammed
If you want to be respected, show respect in turn.
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:28
Remind me, weren't you pushing a list of Qu'ran reasons explaining why the JP drawings offends you - just yestoday?
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck whatever religions you blindly obey.
And here's a drawing for you, my friend.
_o_
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Muhammed
If you want to be respected, show respect in turn.
Omg....that drawing...quoted :D
The Similized world
10-02-2006, 07:33
Omg....that drawing...quoted :D
Try using [ center] [/ center] tags ;)
Andaras Prime
10-02-2006, 07:37
These muslims do not recognise Origin, soon those heretics will be purged, hallowed are the Ori!
The Atlantian islands
10-02-2006, 07:38
Try using [ center] [/ center] tags ;)
Ah, better, thanks.
Eh, you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm still in high school but I'm sure the whole liberal, arab loving community only gets worse when I get to college.
Join Hillel when you go to college. Then you will be surrounded by Jews. Purdue is pretty right wing for a university. Most of the students here voted for Bush. I haven't seen any large anti-war rallies since I've gone to Purdue. I'm in NROTC and Jewish so I would normally be a magnet for liberal hate, but I don't see it here much. Besides, people are pissed off at the Arabs for the crap they've done the past few weeks. It's hard to defend them and I'm laughing at how their protests backfired.
Oh, if you want to go greek, join Alpha Epsilon Pi. They are the Jewish frat. They are a cool group and one of the few frats that is actually respected as a good organization (unlike the Tekes who were caught dealing drugs at Purdue LOL.)
Wow ... someone actually listens to the ADL?
Awesome.
Well, ok ... suit yourself ... nothing like a collaborative collective telling you what to be offended by.
Personally, I'll take my own opinion, thanks. Fuck the ADL.
*coff*
Of course you hate the ADL. They show us examples of how much hate your religion generates. Compare those 12 cartoons you are huffing and puffing over to the tens of thousands on that link I posted.
Europa Maxima
10-02-2006, 15:13
How can you be a Jewish muslim?
Thats like saying your a Hindu Christian.
Apparently not, because Jewish is a culture much like the Amish. I am not sure if you are even Jewish, given your ethnic bloodline. If you aren't a practising Jew, I wonder if you are. :confused:
Eh...I've been labeled far right all the time...including tonight when we were arguing about the Rabs and their cartoons of Jews....some liberal even called me a Neo-Nazi once...I just told her I was Jewish and she got real quiet so, eh...I'll continue fighting PC, liberalism...and arab loving, where ever I can find it.
So far people know I'm a Monarchist and rather right wing. And I shall fight alongside you btw :) Someone has to put an end to all this trash.
Apparently not, because Jewish is a culture much like the Amish. I am not sure if you are even Jewish, given your ethnic bloodline. If you aren't a practising Jew, I wonder if you are. :confused:
Judaism is a religion. Keruvalia is no Jew. He was born Jewish, but he converted and became a Muslim.
Europa Maxima
10-02-2006, 15:18
Judaism is a religion. Keruvalia is no Jew. He was born Jewish, but he converted and became a Muslim.
:confused: So how can he remain Jewish? Argh, this is frustrating! People keep on saying, "no, they're not a Jew because its a religion." Fine. Then others go and say "Oh but they are a Jew because its a cultural group." Make up your minds. :p If its a religious group you cannot be both, unless you practise some weird amalgam of two (or more) religions.
I totally agree with the OP's posted article.
http://www.adl.org/NR/rdonlyres/enae2z3usmvko4ulblej2vxpvblpyp5oekhwt7az5xchwcw2bdsylfaocytzdqrzth26x3slofz7ia/02annefrank1.jpg
I found this image from that other link especially disgusting.
Cataduanes
10-02-2006, 15:40
..So far people know I'm a Monarchist and rather right wing. And I shall fight alongside you btw :) Someone has to put an end to all this trash.
OOC:Monarchist, which king do you support or do you support all Kings?
Europa Maxima
10-02-2006, 15:46
OOC:Monarchist, which king do you support or do you support all Kings?
None in particular. I admire Elisabeth, Louis XIV, Catherine the Great, Napoleon, Alexander and some other Kings and Queens due to their personalities and achievements, yet my liking for Monarchy is more ideological than based on any single person.
Man in Black
10-02-2006, 16:15
I found this image from that other link especially disgusting.
I think I'm gonna sketch up some cartoons of Mohamed just after he has been fucked by a Knight from the Crusades. Let's see how they like that!
SHAENDRA
11-02-2006, 00:25
:confused: So how can he remain Jewish? Argh, this is frustrating! People keep on saying, "no, they're not a Jew because its a religion." Fine. Then others go and say "Oh but they are a Jew because its a cultural group." Make up your minds. :p If its a religious group you cannot be both, unless you practise some weird amalgam of two (or more) religions.Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't you automatically Jewish if your mother is Jewish?