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Did I mention the girl was only 14?


Man Faces 50 Years for Marriage to 14-Year-Old
Tuesday, December 13, 2005

FALLS CITY, Neb. — A 22-year-old man pleaded guilty Tuesday to a sexual assault charge filed after he impregnated and then married a 14-year-old girl, and he could face up to 50 years in prison.

Matthew Koso legally married the girl in Kansas, which has no minimum age for marriage, after she became pregnant. The girl, Crystal Koso, now 15, gave birth Aug. 24 to a 7-pound, 1-ounce girl named Samara.

Nebraska, however, requires people to be at least 17 before they can marry and prohibits people 19 or older from having sex with anyone under age 16.

Koso had pleaded not guilty in August. As he left the courtroom with his wife, he would not say why he changed his plea.

The Associated Press generally avoids naming victims of sexual assault, but the couple has spoken freely about the charges, and the girl's name has been widely reported.

His attorney, Willis Yoesil, said he believed possible Koso could be sentenced to probation. He would not say why he advised Koso to change his plea.

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning said his office would not make a recommendation to the judge about Koso's sentence.

>>FULL STORY (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178608,00.html)

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Just an offhand question...

Imagine that you are the parent of a 14 year old girl.

Now imagine that you see her dating a 22 year old man.

Is this ok? Just fine? No problem?

I know you can't always controll what a 14 year old does, but it makes me wonder if this problem is better addressed by parents than by laws and courts.

Just an offhand question...

Imagine that you are the parent of a 14 year old girl.

Now imagine that you see her dating a 22 year old man.

Is this ok? Just fine? No problem?

I know you can't always controll what a 14 year old does, but it makes me wonder if this problem is better addressed by parents than by laws and courts.

"After the girl became pregnant, her mother gave permission for Koso to take her daughter across the state line to Hiawatha, Kan. There is no minimum age for marriage in Kansas, but state law requires anyone under 18 to have permission to marry from both parents, a guardian or a judge.

Koso's lawyer, Yoesil, has said the girl's mother and Koso's parents approved of the marriage. The girl's father has not lived with the family for some time."

"After the girl became pregnant, her mother gave permission for Koso to take her daughter across the state line to Hiawatha, Kan. There is no minimum age for marriage in Kansas, but state law requires anyone under 18 to have permission to marry from both parents, a guardian or a judge.

Koso's lawyer, Yoesil, has said the girl's mother and Koso's parents approved of the marriage. The girl's father has not lived with the family for some time."

Well, in my case, he would have been picking buckshot out of his ass.

Well, in my case, he would have been picking buckshot out of his ass.


definitely if that was my kid

Just an offhand question...

Imagine that you are the parent of a 14 year old girl.

Now imagine that you see her dating a 22 year old man.

Is this ok? Just fine? No problem?

I know you can't always controll what a 14 year old does, but it makes me wonder if this problem is better addressed by parents than by laws and courts.

Whoa, another thing I agree on. This is getting scary.

Just an offhand question...

Imagine that you are the parent of a 14 year old girl.

Now imagine that you see her dating a 22 year old man.

Is this ok? Just fine? No problem?

I know you can't always controll what a 14 year old does, but it makes me wonder if this problem is better addressed by parents than by laws and courts.

Its social Standing see.

14-22 is only an 8 year gap.
34 year old dates a 42 year old. Noone cares.
15 year old dates a 17 year old its taboo!
It makes me want to cry we've gotten this bad about it.
Provided she consented and he didnt rape her i say let him free

Is it wrong that I have the sudden urge to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis?

Well, in my case, he would have been picking buckshot out of his ass.

Now I know you're lying. You wouldn't use buckshot on him. A slug maybe, or a "Pitbull", but not buckshot.

Now I know you're lying. You wouldn't use buckshot on him. A slug maybe, or a "Pitbull", but not buckshot.
You're right, it would have been a rifle.

Probably my 45-70.

If I aim low enough, I just take off a leg.

You're right, it would have been a rifle.

Probably my 45-70.

If I aim low enough, I just take off a leg.

take off both then watch him try to run on his stubs.

Its social Standing see.

14-22 is only an 8 year gap.
34 year old dates a 42 year old. Noone cares.
15 year old dates a 17 year old its taboo!
It makes me want to cry we've gotten this bad about it.
Provided she consented and he didnt rape her i say let him free

There is a pretty serious difference in both physical maturty (especially neurological maturity) and life experiance between a 14 year old and a 34 year old. There is a reaosn people that young do not get to consent to sex, vote, drive a car, drink alcohol, own a fire arm, go to war, or enter into legal contracts.

The relationship between a 22 year old and a 14 year old is always slanted, there is always an imbalance of power and an element of coercion. The 14 year old is simply not yet mature enough to make that descision. It is very similar to the reason that sex between a psychologist and a patient is ALWAYS considered rape: one of the parties is unable to consent in any meaningful way.

If I ever have a daughter, I'd pity the fool who thought he could seriously date her at 14, I don't give a shit how old he is. If I found out she was pregnent, I'd have a very hard time staying out of prison...

"After the girl became pregnant, her mother gave permission for Koso to take her daughter across the state line to Hiawatha, Kan. There is no minimum age for marriage in Kansas, but state law requires anyone under 18 to have permission to marry from both parents, a guardian or a judge.

Koso's lawyer, Yoesil, has said the girl's mother and Koso's parents approved of the marriage. The girl's father has not lived with the family for some time."
I mean, the parent DID consent...So... What exactly is the problem when the mother is aware?

I mean, the parent DID consent...So... What exactly is the problem when the mother is aware?
The problem here is not the law - the problem is her father was absent and her mother had rocks for brains.

The problem here is not the law - the problem is her father was absent and her mother had rocks for brains.
Well, at least there was someone there to love the girl.

Just an offhand question...

Imagine that you are the parent of a 14 year old girl.

Now imagine that you see her dating a 22 year old man.

Is this ok? Just fine? No problem?

I know you can't always controll what a 14 year old does, but it makes me wonder if this problem is better addressed by parents than by laws and courts.

As far as legality is concerned, constitutionally states are required to recognize marriages performed in other states. They were legally married in Kansas, and Nebraska can't just say "Sorry, you can't do that"

Exactly, the problem is in Kansas not in this relationship. I don't disagree that a 14 year old of either gender is not mature enough to get married but if they can under Kansas law (and they can) and they did (let's check with the judges...yup they did) no one has any right to hold this man on sexual abuse charges. Marriage is just a contract and contracts from one state are, as the previous poster pointed out, by consitutional law valid in all states.

(On the other hand I Biorifle whatever redneck's idea it was to have no age of consent [to marriage] in Kansas)

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As far as legality is concerned, constitutionally states are required to recognize marriages performed in other states. They were legally married in Kansas, and Nebraska can't just say "Sorry, you can't do that"

Sorry, I don't leave all of my life decisions to what is or isn't legal.

Its social Standing see.

14-22 is only an 8 year gap.
34 year old dates a 42 year old. Noone cares.
15 year old dates a 17 year old its taboo!
It makes me want to cry we've gotten this bad about it.
Provided she consented and he didnt rape her i say let him free
There is a huge difference between even 14 and 18, if you are 14 you don't notice it much but when you are a senior in highschool looking at the freshmen it's quite clear that there is a lot of "growing up" that happens in just a few years.

I can't really talk much since my husband is 7 years older than me, but I was way more mature at 18 than I was even at 16 (we started dating when I was 18)

I don't think a 14 year old can really be an "equal" in a relationship with someone who is 22, there is a lot of wisdom/experience that a 22 year old has that a 14 year old just hasn't been able to round up yet.

34 to 42 isn't as much of a big deal because a 34 year old has had a lot more time to figure stuff out.

just my opinion though.

As far as legality is concerned, constitutionally states are required to recognize marriages performed in other states. They were legally married in Kansas, and Nebraska can't just say "Sorry, you can't do that"

The issue is that he got her pregnant BEFORe they were married. Even if that hadn't been the case, caselaw regarding statutory rape and marriage is spotty.

If I ever have a daughter, they guys who try to date her (and everyone will, having my genes, she would be beautiful, duh) are gonna have to get through her daddy, and his friends (me and some hitmen). So if the guy dosent end up dead, or with several limbs missing, or scared shitless, well, then he can date her. but just once, if he wants a second one, well, we go throught the same process, except twice as long.