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Coretta King's Funeral Comments

Ninja Revelry
08-02-2006, 07:48
Mmm, satire. (http://blacklight-ninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/truth-behind-hurricane-katrina.html)
Stone Bridges
08-02-2006, 08:19
Mmm, satire. (http://blacklight-ninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/truth-behind-hurricane-katrina.html)

LOL, that was rich.
Shurely
08-02-2006, 08:30
What I thought was really funny was when Jimmy Carter said what he said about Bobby Kennedy wiretaping the phone of MLK, with Bobby Kennedy's
brother Ted setting right there. Way to go President Carter. And the crowd there just loved it.. Did you ever see such yelling and screaming??? I bet old Ted was beside himself.. ;)
Lacadaemon
08-02-2006, 08:33
What I thought was really funny was when Jimmy Carter said what he said about Bobby Kennedy wiretaping the phone of MLK, with Bobby Kennedy's
brother Ted setting right there. Way to go President Carter. And the crowd there just loved it.. Did you ever see such yelling and screaming??? I bet old Ted was beside himself.. ;)

Was ted sober enough to realize what was said?
Shurely
08-02-2006, 18:10
You could tell that the crown was very hostle to President Bush. I honestly don't think anyone realized that Jimmy Carter had just put his foot in his mouth.
The way he phrased it, if one didn't know a little history, one would think that Bush did the wiretap on MLK. And the way the crowd was wooping and yelling, I think most of them thought he did.

The liberal left sure knows how to throw a funeral. I didn't see a dry eye in the house.. from laughing. If anything, that so called funeral, was a disgrace to Mrs. King's memory.

I live in Martin Luther King Jr. County, Washington State. The county has to pay the MLK Jr. estate close to $1,000,000 a year to use his name. Prior to 2005 it was simply King County. Named after some guy from Alabama who ran for Vice President, and who happened to own a few slaves back in the 1800's. The named was changed before the politicians realized MLK Jr.'s estate wanted money for the use of his name and image.
Ninja Revelry
08-02-2006, 19:08
I expected more pissed people posting in this thread. I mean come on, the image isn't exactly tasteful.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1321/761/320/racist_hurricanes.jpg
Myrmidonisia
08-02-2006, 19:34
You could tell that the crown was very hostle to President Bush. I honestly don't think anyone realized that Jimmy Carter had just put his foot in his mouth.
The way he phrased it, if one didn't know a little history, one would think that Bush did the wiretap on MLK. And the way the crowd was wooping and yelling, I think most of them thought he did.

The liberal left sure knows how to throw a funeral. I didn't see a dry eye in the house.. from laughing. If anything, that so called funeral, was a disgrace to Mrs. King's memory.

I live in Martin Luther King Jr. County, Washington State. The county has to pay the MLK Jr. estate close to $1,000,000 a year to use his name. Prior to 2005 it was simply King County. Named after some guy from Alabama who ran for Vice President, and who happened to own a few slaves back in the 1800's. The named was changed before the politicians realized MLK Jr.'s estate wanted money for the use of his name and image.
Lowry's comments were completely uncalled for. As far as I know, all of the guests at the funeral were invited. It's pretty damn poor manners to insult your guests.

Second, this was a funeral. This was a time to contemplate the life of Ms King, not to carry on a partisan political battle.
Silliopolous
08-02-2006, 19:55
Second, this was a funeral. This was a time to contemplate the life of Ms King, not to carry on a partisan political battle.

In that respect, it would have been an ommission NOT to expound on the political views that defined the struggle Mrs. King fought her whole life for. The fact that they are at odds with the current president notwithstanding.

What you are suggesting is akin to the notion that a service for Mother Theresa shouldn't have mentioned poverty had some of the guests been poor.
Quiilan
08-02-2006, 20:06
I expected more pissed people posting in this thread. I mean come on, the image isn't exactly tasteful.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1321/761/320/racist_hurricanes.jpg

sat·ire n. 1a. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit. 1b. The branch of literature constituting such works. See also caricature. 2. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.

sense of humor n. the trait of appreciating (and being able to express) the humorous; "she didn't appreciate my humor"; "you can't survive in the army without a sense of humor" (syn: humor, humour, sense of humour)

And on a totally unrelated note, the bit about "you can't survive in the army without a sense of humor" is quite true. :rolleyes:
Sumamba Buwhan
08-02-2006, 20:14
I expected more pissed people posting in this thread. I mean come on, the image isn't exactly tasteful.

So you posted with the expectation of pissing people off? Why?
Silliopolous
08-02-2006, 20:17
But on a totally RELATED note, shall we all remember how GW used Reagan's funeral as a vehicle to try and quell any nay-saying of his "Freedom is on the MArch" premise and the upswell of the "so - ummmm - where ARE those WMD you kept talking about?" questions that were becoming louder right about then?

Let us refresh our memories of his speech shall we?

He was optimistic that a strong America could advance the peace, and he acted to build the strength that mission required. He was optimistic that liberty would thrive wherever it was planted, and he acted to defend liberty wherever it was threatened.

And Ronald Reagan believed in the power of truth in the conduct of world affairs. When he saw evil camped across the horizon, he called that evil by its name. There were no doubters in the prisons and gulags, where dissidents spread the news, tapping to each other in code what the American President had dared to say. There were no doubters in the shipyards and churches and secret labor meetings, where brave men and women began to hear the creaking and rumbling of a collapsing empire. And there were no doubters among those who swung hammers at the hated wall as the first and hardest blow had been struck by President Ronald Reagan.



To recap: Da Prez is da toughest hombre on the range. Freedom is on the march. There are Axis of Evil out there, and the Prez gets to point the finger. Doubt me not. Doubt me not. Doubt me not.



Hey, if GW gets to be opportunistic over a warm body, then so do his opposition.
Muravyets
08-02-2006, 22:09
But on a totally RELATED note, shall we all remember how GW used Reagan's funeral as a vehicle to try and quell any nay-saying of his "Freedom is on the MArch" premise and the upswell of the "so - ummmm - where ARE those WMD you kept talking about?" questions that were becoming louder right about then?

Let us refresh our memories of his speech shall we?




To recap: Da Prez is da toughest hombre on the range. Freedom is on the march. There are Axis of Evil out there, and the Prez gets to point the finger. Doubt me not. Doubt me not. Doubt me not.



Hey, if GW gets to be opportunistic over a warm body, then so do his opposition.
Nice. :D

I gotta say, I just loved the political revival meeting that funeral turned into. Mrs. King was no wallflower herself. I think it was entirely appropriate. Before the funeral, I saw an AP article about how civil rights activists are starting to realize that they are slacking on the job -- they spend more time honoring past accomplishments than fighting current injustices. Mrs. King spent most of her life fighting the good fight, and I'd like to think she would have approved of using her funeral to jump start a movement that is still sorely needed here and abroad.

And, all right, I admit it -- I enjoyed watching Bush take it. I enjoy anything that makes my enemies uncomfortable, even just a little. I'm evil that way. :D
Bolol
08-02-2006, 22:30
To be honest, the comments stated at Mrs. King's took me a little by surprise.

I might be old fashioned, but I do not think political posturing belongs in a funeral.
Workers Dictatorship
08-02-2006, 23:11
Mmm, satire. (http://blacklight-ninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/truth-behind-hurricane-katrina.html)

Of course, the issue with Hurricane Katrina was that the avoidable social catastrophe in the wake of this natural disaster hit poor Black people disproportionately. When Hurricane Dennis hit the city of Havana, a city of 1 million, it was a category IV storm. Because the government had organized evacuation and rescue efforts, 4 people died. When Hurricane Katrina hit the city of New Orleans, a city of 500,000, it was also a category IV storm. Thousands of people died--because levees were not in place to prevent flooding, because evacuation efforts were not in place, because in the aftermath the government focused more on preventing "looters" from finding food and water for themselves than on getting people out of there, or indeed making sure that people had food and water. And the brunt of the social decision to allow a hurricane--a foreseeable natural event--to turn into a disaster of this magnitude fell on poor Black people.
Silliopolous
09-02-2006, 01:58
To be honest, the comments stated at Mrs. King's took me a little by surprise.

I might be old fashioned, but I do not think political posturing belongs in a funeral.


And I think if you are honouring a person for their political activism, then it would be a dishonour NOT to remind people what it was she was fighting for.

Turning any normal funeral into such an event, and I would agree with you. But Coretta wasn't just anyone. She WAS the face of political activism to a lot of people. And that is why she was being remembered in the way she was.
Bobs Own Pipe
09-02-2006, 02:12
Right ON Jimmy Carter. He's always been my kinda President. Good on you!:)
The Lone Alliance
09-02-2006, 02:23
Right ON Jimmy Carter. He's always been my kinda President. Good on you!:)
Like people say, he's the best Ex-President around. I actually burst out laughing from some of the comments.
Dinaverg
09-02-2006, 02:25
Bah, funerals shouldn't be about the death anyways, I don't want to cry about them gone, want to hear how they lived, and respect it, maybe even make it a humorous situation.
Bobs Own Pipe
09-02-2006, 02:38
Bah, funerals shouldn't be about the death anyways, I don't want to cry about them gone, want to hear how they lived, and respect it, maybe even make it a humorous situation.
I agree. I've been to funerals like that; they generate much good will and good humour. I've also been to funerals that weren't like that - and you know, the mind is a funny thing... I notice how little I remember clearly of the bad, the traumatic... and how much more clearly I recall the positive.

I say accentuate the positive, even in Death.
Ninja Revelry
09-02-2006, 04:22
Of course, the issue with Hurricane Katrina was that the avoidable social catastrophe in the wake of this natural disaster hit poor Black people disproportionately. When Hurricane Dennis hit the city of Havana, a city of 1 million, it was a category IV storm. Because the government had organized evacuation and rescue efforts, 4 people died. When Hurricane Katrina hit the city of New Orleans, a city of 500,000, it was also a category IV storm. Thousands of people died--because levees were not in place to prevent flooding, because evacuation efforts were not in place, because in the aftermath the government focused more on preventing "looters" from finding food and water for themselves than on getting people out of there, or indeed making sure that people had food and water. And the brunt of the social decision to allow a hurricane--a foreseeable natural event--to turn into a disaster of this magnitude fell on poor Black people.
I love how you're comparing Cuba to the United States.

1. Cuba's communist, and communist governments have a history of censoring information to make themselves look better than they really are.
2. Cuba didn't have a war pulling their funds away either.
3. Cuba doesn't have a State government with some liability as well.

But if you exclude facts, I guess you're right.
Bobs Own Pipe
09-02-2006, 04:36
Cuba's communist, and communist governments have a history of censoring information to make themselves look better than they really are.
My God! You mean Bush and his administration are COMMUNIST on top of everything else??

Well, like you said - if you exclude facts, I guess you're right.
Ninja Revelry
09-02-2006, 04:53
My God! You mean Bush and his administration are COMMUNIST on top of everything else??

Well, like you said - if you exclude facts, I guess you're right.

That's different. The uncontrolled media was giving away the positions of soldiers, which greatly increases the probablility that their brains will be forcably removed from their skulls with Iraqi weaponry.
If anything, Bush is making himself look worse, especially since the possible location of the WMDs has been revealed (http://www.nysun.com/article/26514?page_no=1). Not that he even needs that (http://blacklight-ninja.blogspot.com/2006/01/why-war-was-great.html).