NationStates Jolt Archive


The Most Outrageous Hoax

New Granada
07-02-2006, 06:23
Of all the medical chicanery and hucksterism in recorded history, almost nothing compares to "homeopathic medicine," which is straightforward in acknowledging that it sells purified water as "medicine."

Homeopathy, for those who are unaware, is the belief that by diluting a substance out of existance in water, the water 'remembers' that substance, and ingesting the water causes a strong reaction in the body opposite to what the substance would normally do.

It is believed by "homeopaths" that the more strongly you dilute the substance in water, ie, the more you purify the water, the stronger its 'homeopathic effect' will be.
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 06:25
My favorite hoax has always been 'Tuesday Lobsang Rampa'.
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 06:43
While I think of it, the 93 that wine spectator gave Jonesy Tawny Port, was completely baseless.
Stone Bridges
07-02-2006, 06:44
I liike the Bigfoot hoax.
New Granada
07-02-2006, 06:46
While I think of it, the 93 that wine spectator gave Jonesy Tawny Port, was completely baseless.


Thats why you should drink Taylor Fladgate.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
07-02-2006, 06:48
Thats why you should drink Taylor Fladgate.

*projectile vomits*
Colodia
07-02-2006, 06:49
I like the Moon Landing Hoax. *nod*

*random American flag goes through my bleeding heart*
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 06:49
Thats why you should drink Taylor Fladgate.

I normally do. (Though I recieved a most pleasing bottle of Warre's over the holiday).

Unfortunately I have a weakness for trying new things. Thus the Jonesy's.
New Granada
07-02-2006, 06:49
*projectile vomits*


I couldnt care less if you like it or not, its my tawny-of-choice and to hell with you ruffians.
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 06:50
*projectile vomits*

Blasphemy. It's one of the finest drinks in the world.
New Granada
07-02-2006, 06:50
I normally do. (Though I recieved a most pleasing bottle of Warre's over the holiday).

Unfortunately I have a weakness for trying new things. Thus the Jonesy's.


I had some warres 1977 (i think) vintage when i was in london last winter, was some very, very tasty stuff.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
07-02-2006, 06:51
I couldnt care less if you like it or not, its my tawny-of-choice to to hell you with ruffians.

Ha! I see your port and raise you a first-growth bordeaux.
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 06:52
I had some warres 1977 (i think) vintage when i was in london last winter, was some very, very tasty stuff.

The 1983 is excellent. I've not had the 77. Thank's for the tip, I'll keep an eye out.
New Granada
07-02-2006, 06:55
Ha! I see your port and raise you a first-growth bordeaux.


Yeah, well, not all of us sit on piles of cash we can throw around to drink yquem like it was water.

Some of us have to settle for tawny port :D
Hiel jo
07-02-2006, 06:58
I liike the Bigfoot hoax.

hey i saw big foot
New Granada
07-02-2006, 07:00
Back to the matter at hand, i suppose.

According to homeopathic hoodoo, one drop of vintage yquem or port, diluted in the ocean, if consumed, would cause crippling agony and unhappiness, the opposite of the ecstatic joy caused by those two marvelous substances.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
07-02-2006, 07:03
Yeah, well, not all of us sit on piles of cash we can throw around to drink yquem like it was water.

*dry heaves*

Stop, man, stop! I can't take it no more.

You definately have a sweettooth. The only wine as sweet as a port or that expensive ass sludge called D'quem that I can tolerate would be a German Eiswein.

Give me a bottle of Ch. Margaux (if I can afford it), or some Pavillon Rouge. There are a few Cali's that are good too, most notibly Guenoc Langtree.
Stone Bridges
07-02-2006, 07:08
hey i saw big foot

The Monster Truck doesn't count.
Domici
07-02-2006, 07:10
Back to the matter at hand, i suppose.

According to homeopathic hoodoo, one drop of vintage yquem or port, diluted in the ocean, if consumed, would cause crippling agony and unhappiness, the opposite of the ecstatic joy caused by those two marvelous substances.

Well then I think you would be made miserable to see it spilled into the ocean, no?
Domici
07-02-2006, 07:15
Of all the medical chicanery and hucksterism in recorded history, almost nothing compares to "homeopathic medicine," which is straightforward in acknowledging that it sells purified water as "medicine."

Homeopathy, for those who are unaware, is the belief that by diluting a substance out of existance in water, the water 'remembers' that substance, and ingesting the water causes a strong reaction in the body opposite to what the substance would normally do.

It is believed by "homeopaths" that the more strongly you dilute the substance in water, ie, the more you purify the water, the stronger its 'homeopathic effect' will be.

Wasn't homeopathy originally based on the idea that when you take a mood altering substance, you eventually end up feeling worse than before you took it? Like when coke wears off you crash, when liquor wears off you get a hangover etc. By extension, if you take a chemical that causes a problem that you suffer from for an extended period, then stop taking it, you'll end up feeling healthy.

e.g. If you suffer from nausea you could take syrup of ipecac, and when you get used to the syrup you can stop taking it and end up feeling less nauseous than you did before you started taking it.

But in order for this to work you have to dilute the solution so that you don't overdo it. e.g. You don't take a big dose of Ipecac and vomit all over the place, you take a diluted dose and get as nauseous as you can possibly tolerate. Hence the confusion on the point of medecine working better if you dilute it.

I'm not saying that I think it works mind you. There's a world of difference between stressing a muscle so that it gets stronger and poisoning a system so that it gets stronger.
The Lone Alliance
07-02-2006, 07:18
Sorry but the biggests hoax, (In effect) Was the 1938 War of the Worlds Radio show. Best Hoax ever? I think when you have people fleeing into the woods for fear of flying Saucers being driven by Martians.
(And by some peoples beliefs at the time they thought the Martians were summoned by Hitler.)

The fact that people were fleeing their homes, and people getting on their knees at the end of the program and praying that their death would be quick. That's a big big hoax.
Stone Bridges
07-02-2006, 07:19
Sorry but the biggests hoax, (In effect) Was the 1938 War of the Worlds Radio show. Best Hoax ever? I think when you have people fleeing into the woods for fear of flying Saucers being driven by Martians.
(And by some peoples beliefs at the time they thought the Martians were summoned by Hitler.)

The fact that people were fleeing their homes, and people getting on their knees at the end of the program and praying that their death would be quick. That's a big big hoax.

Hmmm, you got a point.
Katzistanza
07-02-2006, 08:08
this is gatta be the highest-brow NS topic I ever did see :)

My experiences with wine are limited to those jugs of it you can get for like 12 bucks. ::is poor::
Lacadaemon
07-02-2006, 08:13
this is gatta be the highest-brow NS topic I ever did see :)

My experiences with wine are limited to those jugs of it you can get for like 12 bucks. ::is poor::

You can actually get some very drinkable wine for $12. Nothing superlative of course, but decent stuff for just drinking. It entails avoiding those jugs and boxes however.
Durhammen
07-02-2006, 08:32
Definitely War of the Worlds. That was classy.
Forfania Gottesleugner
07-02-2006, 08:39
Sorry but the biggests hoax, (In effect) Was the 1938 War of the Worlds Radio show. Best Hoax ever? I think when you have people fleeing into the woods for fear of flying Saucers being driven by Martians.
(And by some peoples beliefs at the time they thought the Martians were summoned by Hitler.)

The fact that people were fleeing their homes, and people getting on their knees at the end of the program and praying that their death would be quick. That's a big big hoax.


Last I checked that wasn't a hoax at all. The radio did not intend the broadcast to be taken seriously it just happens that the book is written in a serious manner and has radio in it so that when you read it on the radio idiots think it is real.

Hoax:
1. An act intended to deceive or trick.
2. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means

That broadcast is not a hoax. Shows how dumb people are though and that makes it entertaining.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-02-2006, 09:20
Well, offhand I would say the 2000 Presidential Election.

The assassination of President Kennedy, is probably on a much more grand scale.

But for all time greatest acheivement in hoaxery, its the death, ressurection, and ascension of Christ.

Best
Hoax
Ever.
Jello Biafra
07-02-2006, 09:21
Probably the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" which led to increased U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

Or, for the more cynical, the "Saddam had W.M.D.s" statements.
Forfania Gottesleugner
07-02-2006, 09:22
Your birth.
Harlesburg
07-02-2006, 09:35
The Magical Balls in my hand.
They don't actually see into the future.:(
Damor
07-02-2006, 10:07
Of all the medical chicanery and hucksterism in recorded history, almost nothing compares to "homeopathic medicine," which is straightforward in acknowledging that it sells purified water as "medicine."There's often a lot of alcohol in it actually (if it's liquid).
And at the time it was a great advance in medicine; seeing as most other medicines would just make you more ill, pure water was a definite improvement. :p
I can't fathom why people would prefer a placebo over actual proven medicine these days though. I mean, at least for illnesses that don't pass in two weeks anyway.
Damor
07-02-2006, 10:09
The Magical Balls in my hand.
They don't actually see into the future.:(Sure they do, you just don't know how far. If you ask it a question now, you'll get an answer for a question that'll be asked in the future ;)
Zero Six Three
07-02-2006, 12:05
*cups Halesburg's balls*
What day is it tomorrow?
Keruvalia
07-02-2006, 12:44
9/11 .... the towers are actually still there ....

<.<
>.>

*runs*
New Granada
07-02-2006, 16:11
There's often a lot of alcohol in it actually (if it's liquid).
And at the time it was a great advance in medicine; seeing as most other medicines would just make you more ill, pure water was a definite improvement. :p
I can't fathom why people would prefer a placebo over actual proven medicine these days though. I mean, at least for illnesses that don't pass in two weeks anyway.

"chicanery and hucksterism" combined with a large dose of vitamin Gullible and a deficiency in sense and reason. har dee har har