NationStates Jolt Archive


Internationalism and Globalisation

Jerusalas
07-02-2006, 05:49
Just a little feeler to see what people think about globalisation and internationalism. (Poll soon)
Jerusalas
07-02-2006, 06:20
What? No one has any feelings on this issue? That's funny given the fact that the last time the WTO met there were demonstrations outside the building. And the last time the G8 met. I've lost count of the number of threads written by people bemoaning the effects of globalisation and I also know for a fact that there are a number of opinionated Libertarians out here.

So... why the silence?
Neu Leonstein
07-02-2006, 06:36
Meh. It's a given, it can't be avoided, and neither should we try.

At some point we'll have to think about global laws regarding commerce, which will dilute the power of the national governments - Good Thing

More trade, travel and communication will bring people together, diluting nationalism and the power of national governments - Good Thing

And on aggregate, the economic case suggests that humanity as a whole will be more productive and wealthier, allowing the new unified mankind to go and explore the stars - Good Thing

So yeah, I'm in favour of globalisation, although some of the companies have been misbehaving, and that needs to be sorted out.
Free Soviets
07-02-2006, 07:02
define 'globalization'. cause i'm a part of a global justice movement, but the papers tend to style us as anti-globalization. or they did before they forgot about us.
Jerusalas
07-02-2006, 07:11
define 'globalization'. cause i'm a part of a global justice movement, but the papers tend to style us as anti-globalization. or they did before they forgot about us.

Globalization

The tendency of investment funds and businesses to move beyond domestic and national markets to other markets around the globe, thereby increasing the interconnectedness of different markets.

That I think would be a defination that most people would agree upon to describe the socio-economic movement known as "globalisation".
Soheran
07-02-2006, 07:16
In the serious meanings of the terms, I enthusiastically support both globalization and internationalism.

I oppose the unaccountable centers of power in the world, and support a redistribution of wealth and power along democratic egalitarian lines.
Free Soviets
07-02-2006, 07:22
That I think would be a defination that most people would agree upon to describe the socio-economic movement known as "globalisation".

sure. but does supporting that mean supporting the ridiculous expansions of intellectual 'property' law? or or the mass transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich? or the propping up 'business friendly' dictators? the policies of the imf and wb? and all the other insane bullshit that gets called globalization?

and while we're at it, does it exclude when we 'anti-globalization' types organize systems to support worker-occupied workplaces and worker-owned coops on the other side of the planet?

cause what i support could very easily be called globalization. but i bitterly oppose the current system.
Jerusalas
07-02-2006, 07:24
sure. but does supporting that mean supporting the ridiculous expansions of intellectual 'property' law? or or the mass transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich? or the propping up 'business friendly' dictators? the policies of the imf and wb? and all the other insane bullshit that gets called globalization?

and while we're at it, does it exclude when we 'anti-globalization' types organize systems to support worker-occupied workplaces and worker-owned coops on the other side of the planet?

cause what i support could very easily be called globalization. but i bitterly oppose the current system.

Then you're probably an internationalist. Probably. Or so I think.