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Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!

Looks like a fault of the Japanese for accepting this "crap culture."

Makes as much sense as some fatass suing McDonalds because it made that person too fat.

You'd think that the Japanese would have sense enough to resists... come on though it happened in the UK too... I don't go to London to shop at the Gap but that's what the world is coming to. When some other nation becomes more economically powerful than the US, it will be that nation's culture that's exported to the rest of the world.

Looks like a fault of the Japanese for accepting this "crap culture."

Makes as much sense as some fatass suing McDonalds because it made that person too fat.


Yep.

As with most people fighting wars of culture, this one has an enemy to hate and piles it all on top of 'em. Not impressive. It's the same with white americans who are afraid the Mexicans will overrun the US.

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Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!

I seem to remember some history of globalization before the US became a Superpower.

In fact, didn't Japan try its own little version?

If hating the big US bogeyman makes you sleep better at night, I guess you're welcome to your opinion.

I seem to remember some history of globalization before the US became a Superpower.

In fact, didn't Japan try its own little version?
Yeah, it was funny really, my great grandpa was bombed in Burma and my grandfather was forced to learn Japanese in school.

Oh no wait, that wasn't funny at all. Huh!

I think Kishijoten's profile:"Location: Born In Takayama, Japan But Raised in the US. I am still Japanese for life!" has less meaning to it now.

Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but didn't Japanese people buy the stuff? Imean, the companies wouldn't be there otherwise, there has to be somebody buying it if businesses are staying there.

So, unless you call something voluntary a genocide, there isn't one going on that I know of.

I suggest boycotts and embassy burnings.

I seem to remember some history of globalization before the US became a Superpower.

In fact, didn't Japan try its own little version?

If hating the big US bogeyman makes you sleep better at night, I guess you're welcome to your opinion.

Yeah, that rings a bell TCT, lemme think..

...hmmm, China in the 1930's? Invasion of China? Pearl Harbour, invasion of the Far East 1933-45? Sounds like globalisation to me....so they have nothing to whine about. The US is just succeeding at it.

You'd think that the Japanese would have sense enough to resists... come on though it happened in the UK too... I don't go to London to shop at the Gap but that's what the world is coming to. When some other nation becomes more economically powerful than the US, it will be that nation's culture that's exported to the rest of the world.



Its just as bad and I feel sorry for you. I don't think just because some nation gets rich we should all adopt its ways just to kiss its ass.

I seem to remember some history of globalization before the US became a Superpower.

In fact, didn't Japan try its own little version?

If hating the big US bogeyman makes you sleep better at night, I guess you're welcome to your opinion.



Do you really think america hasn't done anything to justify being hated?

あの。。。　すみません、でも、これは東京です。

That's Tokyo. Tokyo is the largest city on earth and acts as LA +New York +Washington DC rolled into one. It's very cosmopolitan.

Out here in inaka land, life is still very, very Japanese. Don't confuse the two.

As well as Japan is, as I have stated before, doing what it always has done, taking in what it likes, discarding what it doesn't, then implanting a Japanese heart.

There's a city next to me that holds the largest Halloween Festival in Japan (it was started by a JET Programme member). We get about 5,000 kids to partisapate. It's less Halloween and much more like a Japanese fall shrine fest, with Halloween laid over it. The same booths I see at shrine festivals selling the same food and toys were there. And the kids were much more likely to dress up as Japanese monsters, or anime char, than the traditional American dresses (Though there's a bit of confusion, a number of the kids came dressed as Santa Claus).

Again, it is far more Japanese in texture and flavore than it is American.

Now if Japan follows what it normally does and shuts itself off from the world to digest what it took in is a good question, I'm not sure it can any more.

But the fact that it will change, but still remain Japanese isn't under dispute.

Kishijotenさん, before you make such startling pronoucements about how far Japan has fallen, perhaps you should return here and see what I mean.

Globalization happens because people buy the stuff.

And those of you who are giving Kishijoten shit about Japanese actions in WWII... that's not really cool, people... he wasn't even born when it happened, why are you taking out your anger on him?

Do you really think america hasn't done anything to justify being hated?

Japan did some godawful stuff in the '30's and '40's in the Far East, so don't try a guilt trip about that. The US is simply swapping roles now.

I think Kishijoten's profile:"Location: Born In Takayama, Japan But Raised in the US. I am still Japanese for life!" has less meaning to it now.



Why?

Globalization happens because people buy the stuff.

And those of you who are giving Kishijoten shit about Japanese actions in WWII... that's not really cool, people... he wasn't even born when it happened, why are you taking out your anger on him?
Hey, I'm not. I'm just pointing out that while he's saying he hates America for its exporting of its culture and the Japanese happily accepting it, the Japanese had their own little turn in history.

Do you really think america hasn't done anything to justify being hated?

You are going to have to be more specific.

Moreoever, although I think America has done some deplorable things in its history, it is overall not much worse than any other country in this respect.

Do you really think america hasn't done anything to justify being hated?
Individual leaders, yes.

In any case, practically every nation fits the bill of doing something worth being hated over.

Hey, I'm not. I'm just pointing out that while he's saying he hates America for its exporting of its culture and the Japanese happily accepting it, the Japanese had their own little turn in history.

Indeed. The US is simply taking it's turn now, and people are accepting it, although not all, judging by NERVUNs post.

Globalization happens because people buy the stuff.

And those of you who are giving Kishijoten shit about Japanese actions in WWII... that's not really cool, people... he wasn't even born when it happened, why are you taking out your anger on him?


Thank you. But I am female and I didn't even like what Japan did during WW2.

Globalization happens because people buy the stuff.

And those of you who are giving Kishijoten shit about Japanese actions in WWII... that's not really cool, people... he wasn't even born when it happened, why are you taking out your anger on him?

So history is only relevant to the extent it fits within the age of each individual poster?

What nice blinders you like to wear.

EDIT: I merely raised the irony of someone berating American "globalization" from a Japanese perspective.

Some of you may be too young to remember the 1980s, when Japan was seen as controlling the global economy as much or more than the US.

Point taken, but if he doesn't like what's happening in Japan, that's his right - although last time I was there it was absolutely nothing like the US.

I know. At least Japan used to have some truly redeeming elements, even if it was imperialistic, genocidal, etc. It once had rich musical and philosophical traditions, but now, it seems the koto has been replaced by the electric guitar. Indeed, I'd say Japan is a shell of its former self, every gain countered by a great loss.

Its just as bad and I feel sorry for you. I don't think just because some nation gets rich we should all adopt its ways just to kiss its ass.

dont you wish others agreed with you? you know what would be good? tell some people, say, i dont know, in japan? i dont care - but if you wanted america to stop changing japan's culture, wouldnt it be easier if japan agreed with you?

just a thought.

Hey, I'm not. I'm just pointing out that while he's saying he hates America for its exporting of its culture and the Japanese happily accepting it, the Japanese had their own little turn in history.



What makes you think we all happily accepted American crap culture? And I am a GIRL!

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Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!
yeah its been really expensive sending troops to japan to go house to house to force the locals to eat mcdonalds but its been worth it!

there are those who said we should have left them with the shattered remnants of a failed global military empire or even back in the 19th century but *I* say that this policy of shoving american culture down the throats of unwilling people have saved them the trouble of making their own choice of how to adapt to the modern world.

Well, I don't care what you say, we're not giving Hello Kitty back.

What makes you think we all happily accepted American crap culture?
Simple rules of business. If people weren't buying, the American companies would back off, because they'd be wasting their money. Of course not everybody likes what's been imported, but there are plenty of people who do.

Well, I don't care what you say, we're not giving Hello Kitty back.

Damn straight.

Japan still has a long way to go before it turns into a miniature US. It's still really damn cool.

And nobody in their right mind would give back Hello Kitty after getting it.

Well, I don't care what you say, we're not giving Hello Kitty back.



Ewww. You can have it. :mad:

Simple rules of business. If people weren't buying, the American companies would back off, because they'd be wasting their money. Of course not everybody likes what's been imported, but there are plenty of people who do.

And thats the godhonest truth. Many Japanese people like this stuff. Some don't, just like in all societies, but the majority do. The US isn't forcing anyone to like it, and many Japanese seem happy to remain traditional, ala NERVUNs post.

So why the whining? Japan isn't the only place it's happening, and Japan had its chance to do the same type of thing

japanese have been adapting to other cultures throughout history, first to the korean, then the european, now the american and it has helped them to survive, while other nations were simply colonized by european powers, japan fought off such attempts, because it had changed. change isnt bad and looking at the japs society from a standpoint of modern western moral, i would even say, that the demise of the old autocratic system, that called for complete obedience and demeaned women is positive.

And thats the godhonest truth. Many Japanese people like this stuff. Some don't, just like in all societies, but the majority do. The US isn't forcing anyone to like it, and many Japanese seem happy to remain traditional, ala NERVUNs post.

So why the whining? Japan isn't the only place it's happening, and Japan had its chance to do the same type of thing


At what point in time did we ask them to import their crap? It wasn't the people but the government who let this happen. The world should be mad as the Amerikkka is doing this to us all and making us all miniamerikkkas.

Well, I don't care what you say, we're not giving Hello Kitty back.
Give her back? Please, KEEP HER! That damn cat stares at me all the time here. Hell, I think I'm still mentally damaged from seeing that Hello Kitty personal vibrator.

either way, arent their two sides to this coin? i couldnt live without my sony products, and god knows how many people i know who talk about the same anime crap on a daily basis. then the american cartoons that have come as anime wanna-bes.

it happens in every country.

EDIT:

im going to a sushi place later on. gojo's.

At what point in time did we ask them to import their crap? It wasn't the people but the government who let this happen. The world should be mad as the Amerikkka is doing this to us all and making us all miniamerikkkas.

At what point in time did the West ask you to import Hello Kitty, Anime and other such Japanese stuff?

Oh, thats right - because people like it, just as the Japanese must like US stuff. Supply and demand - if the people didn't want it, it wouldn't be there, as it isn't profitable.

Give her back? Please, KEEP HER! That damn cat stares at me all the time here. Hell, I think I'm still mentally damaged from seeing that Hello Kitty personal vibrator.



*shutters*

I'd just like to point out that the last paragraph of the listed article discusses the effect Japanese culture has had upon the REST of the world, for example anime on America.

It's a two way street.

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

At what point in time did we ask them to import their crap? It wasn't the people but the government who let this happen. The world should be mad as the Amerikkka is doing this to us all and making us all miniamerikkkas.
When Japan decided that it was rich enough to afford designer brands. When Japan found out that beef tastes damn good, when cooked Japanese style (Two types of hamburgers in Japan, raw and charcoal). When Japan decided that it liked American entertainment better than anything being produced out of its own movie studios (though, at the local cinema, it's an even split between Hollywood and Japanese films). When Japanese decided that Christmas made a great excuse to spend MORE money (the reason why I laugh at the whole Merry Chistmas/Happy Holiday bit, because it is all about money in Japan). When Japanese felt that western style weddings were more romantiku than the previous "Here's your new husband, go live with him" bit.

The Japanese made these decisions. Not the goverment. And again, in many cases the Americaness has been mutated to suit Japanese tastes.

At what point in time did we ask them to import their crap?
Before they moved in, obviously. Somebody had to sell them land, and somebody has to have bought their products, otherwise they wouldn't be there.
It wasn't the people but the government who let this happen.
Are you saying that the Japanese government shouldn't let people buy American things?
The world should be mad as the Amerikkka is doing this to us all and making us all miniamerikkkas.
America isn't doing a thing, and all American corporations are doing is selling people things they chose to buy.

Japan still has a lot of uniquely Japanese stuff: manga, traditional Japanese music, the Japanese language, etc. On the other hand, all three are in an uncertain position for various reasons (competition from pop, English loan words).

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.
*BWAHAHAHAHAHA* Yes it does! Sorry, that old trick of saying America does not have its own culture is so false and out of date that it's become funny.

Besides, if we didn't have a culture, what are you complaining that we're exporting to Japan?

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

How exactly do you explain that then? Or are you just getting angry? The US has just as much culture as any other country - it's merely the most successful in expanding. Again,

If the majority of Japanese people did not want it, it would not be there

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.
Forgive me if I don't understand?
Maybe it would help if you defined "culture" first.

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

Jazz, Cajun food, Rock and Roll.

All uniquely American. Often imitated, but never quite right.

The American culture runs passionate and deep. If you don't understand it, sorry, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can't expect much out of gaijin, though.

*BWAHAHAHAHAHA* Yes it does! Sorry, that old trick of saying America does not have its own culture is so false and out of date that it's become funny.

Besides, if we didn't have a culture, what are you complaining that we're exporting to Japan?



You have been away too long! Amerikkka's culture is nothing then a watered down ripped off version of the worlds. Amerikkka is diverse.

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because I suppose jazz doesn't exist, nor western country music, or rap, or most film making, lots of modern classical music, modern art.... none of that is part of a "real" culture according to Your Great Wisdom.

How would you feel if someone made a Japan-bashing "I hate Japan" thread? You know, mentioning crap like the Rape of Nanking, allying with Nazi Germany, tentacle rape anime and using to stereotype Japanese culture? You wouldn't like it. Yet you feel it's acceptable to do so with America. Get over yourself.

Jazz, Cajun food, Rock and Roll.

All uniquely American. Often imitated, but never quite right.

The American culture runs passionate and deep. If you don't understand it, sorry, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can't expect much out of gaijin, though.



Isn't cajun food taken from French?

Jazz, Cajun food, Rock and Roll.

All uniquely American. Often imitated, but never quite right.

Actually, from what I've heard, jazz and rock both exist outside the US.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because I suppose jazz doesn't exist, nor western country music, or rap, or most film making, lots of modern classical music, modern art.... none of that is part of a "real" culture according to Your Great Wisdom.

How would you feel if someone made a Japan-bashing "I hate Japan" thread? You know, mentioning crap like the Rape of Nanking, allying with Nazi Germany, tentacle rape anime and using to stereotype Japanese culture? You wouldn't like it. Yet you feel it's acceptable to do so with America. Get over yourself.

This is exactly what I've been trying to say, but the OP doesn't seem to be listening.

America has a rich and diverse culture that has now spread wide and far. Claiming that it is 'Amerikkka' and is diverse means nothing. The US is just the most successful.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because I suppose jazz doesn't exist, nor western country music, or rap, or most film making, lots of modern classical music, modern art.... none of that is part of a "real" culture according to Your Great Wisdom.

How would you feel if someone made a Japan-bashing "I hate Japan" thread? You know, mentioning crap like the Rape of Nanking, allying with Nazi Germany, tentacle rape anime and using to stereotype Japanese culture? You wouldn't like it. Yet you feel it's acceptable to do so with America. Get over yourself.


Japan isn't killing your "culture" and rap and country are not something to be proud of. So get over yourself.

Isn't cajun food taken from French?

Hell no! As a Cajun, I can tell you we're not French and the French couldn't produce food a pig would eat.

Some French in the bloodline, sure, but the culture is pure Louisiana swamp.

Actually, from what I've heard, jazz and rock both exist outside the US.



Yes, all 3 do.

Actually, from what I've heard, jazz and rock both exist outside the US.

As exports. Both were invented in the US.

People can forget that globalization is a 2-way street and actually can be enriching. I live in the US, and even here there is no defined culture everyone must accept, and in fact it is one of the most diverse in the world. Glancing around my apartment, I see a Chinese scroll, a pet fish once native to thailand, Japanese fans, things friends brought back from Kuwait and France...
On my iPod, music from not just America but Germany, South Africa, France, Haiti, Cuba, Mexico, India and Lebanon plays. In the streets, shops owned by and selling the goods of Brazil, Morroco, Nepal and Poland, just to name a few, are relatively easy to find. When I sit down to dinner, I often am eating the same things my ancestors brought over from Eastern Europe a century ago. You see, globalization brings new things to all of us and, when we choose to accept them, it is often positive things that we recieve. That does not mean it will overwhelm us.

[R]ap and country are not something to be proud of.

Well, that's one thing you're right on.

Japan isn't killing your "culture" and rap and country are not something to be proud of. So get over yourself.

Look, the US isn't killing yours either.

A) Many Japanese people seem to be retaining their original ways, ala NERVUNs post

B) Japanese culture is having just as much an influence on US culture, ie Anime etc

C) If the majority of the Japanese population didn't want US stuff, it wouldn't be there, as it wouldn't be profitable. Plain and simple.

Hell no! As a Cajun, I can tell you we're not French and the French couldn't produce food a pig would eat.

Some French in the bloodline, sure, but the culture is pure Louisiana swamp.



The word sounds french. Of course French food does suck, but I am Japanese and eat raw fish.:)

Oh! And baseball. Let's not forget baseball. Practically a religion here. A huge culture exists around baseball.

Adapted from rounders, but rounders was invented by an American in England.

Another sign of American culture.

You have been away too long! Amerikkka's culture is nothing then a watered down ripped off version of the worlds. Amerikkka is diverse.

American culture is at least in part diversity.

But you can't have it both ways: Claiming American culture doesn't exist but also claiming American culture is ruining Japanese culture.

I'm afraid you are just a bitter youngster. Some people turn to punk music, you've turned to Japanese fetishism and America-bashing.

Japan isn't killing your "culture" and rap and country are not something to be proud of. So get over yourself.

Anime is killing our youth, actually.

But that's not the point.

We cannot define culture based on what we like. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't part of the culture.

The word sounds french. Of course French food does suck, but I am Japanese and eat raw fish.:)

And I am an American whose favorite food is sushi.

See how multiculturalism works?

Oh! And baseball. Let's not forget baseball. Practically a religion here. A huge culture exists around baseball.

Adapted from rounders, but rounders was invented by an American in England.

Another sign of American culture.


I hate Baseball.

Anime is killing our youth, actually.

But that's not the point.

We cannot define culture based on what we like. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't part of the culture.


How is anime killing your youth?

Isn't Japan responsible for its own cultural death. It ended its isolation (granted that part was forced on it), but then it decided to emulate the west and begin building its empire. Then after it was ravaged in WW2 they copied America so they could dominate economically. It was they that sought to erase their own culture so they could be more like America so that they could dominate.

And I am an American whose favorite food is sushi.
Ditto :)

Oh! And baseball. Let's not forget baseball. Practically a religion here. A huge culture exists around baseball.

Adapted from rounders, but rounders was invented by an American in England.

Another sign of American culture.

It in turn was modified into "TownBall" which more closely resembles baseball of today. It tended to get more violent though as you could bean the runner w/ the ball to get them "out". Local rules also tended to include tackling.

But I digress.

I know. At least Japan used to have some truly redeeming elements, even if it was imperialistic, genocidal, etc. It once had rich musical and philosophical traditions, but now, it seems the koto has been replaced by the electric guitar. Indeed, I'd say Japan is a shell of its former self, every gain countered by a great loss.


Yet, I am sure that you have never heard of the great Japanese Noise artists that come from this country.

America is a collection of hundreds, if not thousands of nationalities and races, and thousands of traditions have started here and been exported to other places, as have many traditions and bits of cultures from other countries been brought here.

Your claims are as arrogant as they are narrow-minded. Your profile would says you were born in Japan yet live in America. You brought your own culture from Japan with you, a perfect example of how a bit of Japanese culture became American as you became a citizen. Please to not insult this country based on its supposed lack of "diversity". You forget that 99% of the population of this country came from other lands at one point or another- the world's culture is ours too because of that.

Isn't Japan responsible for its own cultural death. It ended its isolation (granted that part was forced on it), but then it decided to emulate the west and begin building its empire. Then after it was ravaged in WW2 they copied America so they could dominate economically. It was they that sought to erase their own culture so they could be more like America so that they could dominate.



Against the will of the people.

How is anime killing your youth?

Yeah, really. I watch anime all the time and hasn't killed me.


Yet, I am sure that you have never heard of the great Japanese Noise artists that come from this country.

Don't get me started on noise music. It has all the enjoyability of Schoenberg without the craftsmanship.

Against the will of the people.

I'm sorry, but how? If the 'people' didn't want to do this, they could have voted in an isolationist government, or boycotted anything but homegrown goods.

Look, you can't complain really. If the majority of the Japanese population didn't want this stuff, it wouldn't be there.

Plain and simple as that.

I hate Baseball.

That is incidental.

I'm sorry, but how? If the 'people' didn't want to do this, they could have voted in an isolationist government, or boycotted anything but homegrown goods.

Look, you can't complain really. If the majority of the Japanese population didn't want this stuff, it wouldn't be there.

Plain and simple as that.


Amen

You have been away too long! Amerikkka's culture is nothing then a watered down ripped off version of the worlds. Amerikkka is diverse.
Does it have roots in other cultures? Yes, but they have been blended together and changed to produce something that is uniquely American. We are diverse, yes, but you forget E Pluribus Unum.

Yeah, really. I watch anime all the time and hasn't killed me.




Don't get me started on noise music. It has all the enjoyability of Schoenberg without the craftsmanship.


How far left are you? Both 9's. :eek:

Amen


Thank-you. At least someone is listening, if not the OP.

How is anime killing your youth?

Just you wait. When the 12-18 year old Anime-hounds in this country come into their sensible years, I predict bad things to come.

I blame Anime.

Japan isn't killing your "culture" and rap and country are not something to be proud of. So get over yourself.

Japan's culture is not being "killed." And who cares if rap and country are not something to be "proud" of? Is the Rape of Nanking something you're proud of?

You said America has no culture - clearly you are wrong. Could you be *gasp* wrong on anything else?

I am "over myself." I'm not whining because a culture is changing. I'm not making a thread about how I hate Japan or how I hate lesbians. Or how homosexuality is killing my culture. Or how Japan is evil.

How far left are you? Both 9's.

I'm a real-life anarchist, about as left wing as you can get.

I'm sorry, but how? If the 'people' didn't want to do this, they could have voted in an isolationist government, or boycotted anything but homegrown goods.

Look, you can't complain really. If the majority of the Japanese population didn't want this stuff, it wouldn't be there.

Plain and simple as that.


So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?

Thank-you. At least someone is listening, if not the OP.


Hey you supported my post so we're thinking along the same lines.

You have been away too long! Amerikkka's culture is nothing then a watered down ripped off version of the worlds. Amerikkka is diverse.

What are you talking about? America has created many of its own culture. Stuff originated here before anywhere else.

Just you wait. When the 12-18 year old Anime-hounds in this country come into their sensible years, I predict bad things to come.

I blame Anime.
*Pulls out a large mallet from hammer space and whaps you* Keruvaliaのバカ!

Hmm, where'd that come from? :p

So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?


Hahahhahaha your nations culture sucks. We kicked your asses so you all tried to copy us so you could become great yourself. That is part of your countries culture, copy from those that beat it so it can improve. So it can maintan honor and face. Don't blame me if your culture is obsessed with copying other cultures therefore your culture doesn't have anything that is uniquely its own.

So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?

If the majority didn't want all this US culture being imported, it wouldn't be there.

US companies only import it if the stuff is being demanded. A majority must demand it to be supplied, otherwise it would be far, far too expensive and inefficent to actually import it. Thus, the majority wishes this to happen, buys the clothes, the food, the cartoons etc.

But your culture is not dying, for crying out loud. Seeing a McDonalds on a street corner is not a sign of Japanese culture crumbling. There's one in Canterbury here, but I'm not worried about Fish and Chips going out of fashion.

There seem to be just as many Japanese people remaining faithful to their own culture, and Japanses culture is being exported overseas. No-one's culture is dying here.

So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?


Also its part of your nations culture not to desent from the majority, because without the state you are nothing. So you know what? You are part of the problem you must be destroyed you self hating Japanesse MAN or WOMAN!!!

Also its part of your nations culture not to desent from the majority, because without the state you are nothing. So you know what? You are part of the problem you must be destroyed you self hating Japanesse MAN or WOMAN!!!

Ranting and flaming will get you nowhere. Cool it, please.

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

Wait a minute. You're bitching about American culture ending up in Japan, but then saying that America doesn't have any culture when people point out that the same exchange of culture has happened in the other direction?

So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?

How long were you in Japan before you moved to America?

And common sense dictates this. NOBODY's forcing this on Japan. Obviously somebody's supporting it if it's staying around, huh?

Oh, right. Common sense? Who needs it. The same sense that says "ALL MEN ARE ASSHOLES UNIFORMLY BECAUSE I'VE MET SOME WHO ARE."

So I have to follow the masses? I can't stray from them and think differently? How do you know the majority supports this and what right do you have to tell me to not be upset about the death of my nations culture?
BECAUSE IF THE MASSES DIDN'T SUPPORT IT, IT WOULDN'T BE ON SALE IN JAPAN!

The reason why McDonalds Japan is succesful is because people EAT there. They LIKE wine and beer (oh GOD do they like beer). If they didn't like it, it simply wouldn't be here. I can't walk into my local kobini or suupaa and find American food like I would back home. If I want anything remotely resembling a burrito, I have to take a 30 minute train ride to the one store that sells tortias in a hundred km radius.

I CRAVE American style pizza, but the Japanese keep putting corn on it and dipping into mayo!

Come to Japan, and not to Tokyo, come to Nagano, and I'll be damn glad to show you how 'Americanized' things are here.

I think there's a legitimate point about the dangers of indiginous cultures being swamped by the (largely) American global culture. However, bashing America and Americans isn't going to save Japanese culture. Indiginous cultures are saved by positive, not negative efforts. Celebrating and honouring your own heritage is better than insulting someone else's. Much better.

Another thing, I absolutely hate the use of the word 'Amerikkka'. Although I'm often (in the Bush years, usually) deeply critical of American foreign policy, and certain elements of its national persona, it's really unfair to use that label. It's taking one of the very worst things ever to come out of the US 'The Ku Klux Klan' and insinuating that this is the norm in the country. It's nothing but meanspirited. Criticize it all you like, there's a lot to criticize, but at least be respectful enough to use the proper names. If nothing else, it makes your argument look stronger.

Rock and roll, blues and jazz music are American musical forms, they spread and developed elsewhere (especially the UK), but they are American musical forms. Even though the Beatles were British, they were inspired by American artists and bands. And yeah, country and rap aren't on my list of favorite cultural forms, but for the sake of this discussion, they are other American cultural forms. They have origins in other musical forms immigrants brought from other countries, but they wouldn't have evolved in the US.

Finally, I think that the Japanese culture will survive. It's not easy to undo thousands of years of culture. It will change, probably, just as Japan changes. Part of it has to do with being a modern, economically developed nation. In fact, Japan, in my opinion, is a model for integrating foreign ideas and making them Japanese.

Also, the reason why American culture is spreading so much in large part is because the United States is the dominant world power. Before the United States, it was Great Britain which tried to enforce itself on the world. Before the era of British domination, the Spaniards took nearly half a hemisphere and made it Spanish. Two thousand years ago, the Romans spread Greco-Roman culture throughout the Mediterranean and Europe. Call it a byproduct of world political and military dominance. Not to mention, globalization = money for American companies.

I think it's important for indiginous cultures to maintain themselves, because, well, the world would be boring if there was only one culture. Realistically, I think there's going to have to be a process of choosing what elements of global culture are good (some are!) and which are undesirable. Overall, I think the Japanese have done a good job of that. Enough so that they managed to become a PRODUCER of global culture.

Anyways, I can feel myself rant, so I shall end.

If people didn't want American products or American culture, they wouldn't buy it. Obviously, they like American things and therefore they have embraced aspects of American culture. In the global economy, ideas and cultural concepts are spread worldwide; this isn't a bad thing by any means because it shares cultural traditions between nations and allows people to learn about the culture anywhere in the world.

Not to mention the economic benefits of cultural contact; the influence and interspersing of cultures has led to revolutions in commerce, technology, social thought, arts and literature.

America has a unique culture like anywhere else in the world; however, it is different from Asia, Africa, or Europe in that it is so young and is comprised of so many other cultures that came along with the immigrants. The same is true of Canada, or Mexico, or any nation in the "New World". Australia is the same way.

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.

But your culture is not dying, for crying out loud. Seeing a McDonalds on a street corner is not a sign of Japanese culture crumbling. There's one in Canterbury here, but I'm not worried about Fish and Chips going out of fashion.

There seem to be just as many Japanese people remaining faithful to their own culture, and Japanses culture is being exported overseas. No-one's culture is dying here.
I'm surrounded by sushi places and Chinese places, and I'm not seeing a dearth of American culture.
Oh, yeah, I forgot, we're just "diverse", not cultured. I suppose you have a point there, if we'd stuck to be gentile plantation owners and kept all those darkies, with their rap, spirituals, and hula hoops, in their place we'd still have the anachronisms and monocles that made this country great!
Face it, life is change. People change, nations change, and any group that has tried to stop the inevitable evolution and interplay between cultures has consigned themselves, and the people around them, to the ash heap of history.

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.
Are you even listening to what we have been saying?

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.

My god, I'm going to give up. You can't be reasoned with, despite multiple posters showing you why Japan has this imported culture. Cultures are not being killed, for gods sake! Japan still has a thriving culture, as shown by NERVUNs post, and from what I've read of Japan generally. The US has just as much an impact on the UK< but I'm not worried that British culture will decay - because it will adapt and retain everything that is British.

But why do I think you can't be reasoned with?

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.

So basically you just want to vent your mindless anger and aren't interested in conversation or, ya know, reading what anyone else has to say.

Like I said, get over yourself.

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.

Evasive answer and ignores the fact that it's not intentional culture-killing.

Try again?

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.
If the traditional cultures are being abandoned, it is being done by choice. People are choosing to buy American, people are choosing to stop following traditional ways of living. American companies couldn't stay if they didn't have lots of customers.

So who is doing the killing?

My god, I'm going to give up. You can't be reasoned with, despite multiple posters showing you why Japan has this imported culture. Cultures are not being killed, for gods sake! Japan still has a thriving culture, as shown by NERVUNs post, and from what I've read of Japan generally. The US has just as much an impact on the UK< but I'm not worried that British culture will decay - because it will adapt and retain everything that is British.

But why do I think you can't be reasoned with?


Do you really think British culture is still there? I went to London a while ago and parts of it looked like Pakistan!

Are you even listening to what we have been saying?


That you say traditonal Japanese culture is still there and I say It isn't?

Do you really think British culture is still there? I went to London a while ago and parts of it looked like Pakistan!

Because, of course, when something adapts another culture, it doesn't begin to resemble that part of the culture in the slightest. :rolleyes:

Do you really think British culture is still there? I went to London a while ago and parts of it looked like Pakistan!


...


WHAT?


I just officially lost my mind. What in gods name are you talking about? Do you mean the East End, where the Indina etc shops are? If so, so what? There are still British shops, british artifacts, british clothing, cultural artifacts. The hell is that supposed to mean? Tokyo looks like Times Square at times, but it doesn't mean Japanese Culture is dying.

My god, I'm going to give up. You can't be reasoned with, despite multiple posters showing you why Japan has this imported culture. Cultures are not being killed, for gods sake!

Very reasonable and correct, but the original poster just wants to be angry and arrogant. I find it deliciously hypocritical to try to get people to be sympathetic for Japanese culture while at the same time being totally insulting to "Amerikkkan" and British cultures.

Just stupid, my-culture-has-a-bigger-dick-than-yours emotive based reasoning and xenophobia. Nothing more.

Best to leave the trolly troll alone.

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.

You don't have to do that. It is entirely possible to preserve traditional culture while simultaneously embracing multiculturalism and allowing the free flow of products, culture and ideas through the nation.

Yes. Lets kill all cultures in the world for the sake of multiculturalism.
Okay, first of all, cultures don't die. they change. DEAL WITH IT.

second, Japan exports its culture too. I had sushi and green tea for dinner. It is one of my favorite foods. Not to mention the popularity of anime, corporations like Sony, Toyota, etc.

third, globalization has been going on for ever. Silk wars, italian trade routes of the renaissance, roman empire, mongolian empire, arab traders, colonization of polynesia...take your pick.

fourth, have you ever been to Japan? and I don't mean tokyo (the largest city, and inherently cosmopolitan) or tourist places, but places like Nagano (like NERVUN suggests)? If you haven't, you have zero footing to speak from.

fifth, no place is without culture. From what we eat to how we prepare it, from what we do to how we do it...it is all culture. Cajun, jazz, rock, cocktails, new england foods, southern foods, fashion, movies, music, literature, art, dance. We have forms of all which are distinctly American.

Because, of course, when something adapts another culture, it doesn't begin to resemble that part of the culture in the slightest. :rolleyes:



Did what I said go over your head? British culture is dying to, and the fact that people call parts of London londonstan prove that.

Do you really think British culture is still there? I went to London a while ago and parts of it looked like Pakistan!
Yarr, them filthy darkies be fouling up all the homes of decent white folk! We must kill them feriners to save our culture and our honourable women.
Or perhaps your a more enlightened sort who is willing to let the inferior elements go on, provided that they keep out of sight and never associate with those outside of their kind (for their own good, of course).

Did what I said go over your head? British culture is dying to, and the fact that people call parts of London londonstan prove that.

Oddly enough, when I google that, I get 226 results.

NOT MANY PEOPLE, HUH?

TRY AGAIN.

Did what I said go over your head? British culture is dying to, and the fact that people call parts of London londonstan prove that.


Oh, thats it. I'm pissed off now.

Who calls London 'Londonstan'? Quote me even one credible source that isn't you. Please,l do show me this person.

And as for British culture dying....how exactly? We still have days like Remeberance Day, Trafalgar Day; we still have british shops, companies in Britain. We have british traditions dating back centuries still around here today, as well as British cultural artifacts. So no, sorry, we're not dying off.

Oh, thats it. I'm pissed off now.

Who calls London 'Londonstan'? Quote me even one credible source that isn't you. Please,l do show me this person.

And as for British culture dying....how exactly? We still have days like Remeberance Day, Trafalgar Day; we still have british shops, companies in Britain. We have british traditions dating back centuries still around here today, as well as British cultural artifacts. So no, sorry, we're not dying off.



LondonStan is a joke, it's because alot of London is Arab and Muslims, go to the areas and ask them if they heard of the phrase, Thats what I did.

Yarr, them filthy darkies be fouling up all the homes of decent white folk! We must kill them feriners to save our culture and our honourable women.
Or perhaps your a more enlightened sort who is willing to let the inferior elements go on, provided that they keep out of sight and never associate with those outside of their kind (for their own good, of course).

LMAO.

Yarr, them filthy darkies be fouling up all the homes of decent white folk! We must kill them feriners to save our culture and our honourable women.
Or perhaps your a more enlightened sort who is willing to let the inferior elements go on, provided that they keep out of sight and never associate with those outside of their kind (for their own good, of course).


:rolleyes:

I am dark. Got that?

LondonStan is a joke, it's because alot of London is Arab and Muslims, go to the areas and ask them if they heard of the phrase, Thats what I did.

a) 226 google results. Not very common.

b) You're not a credible source.

c) You've evaded the question.

This is like debating with a turtle.

That you say traditonal Japanese culture is still there and I say It isn't?
Addressing that:

1. As you have said in other threads, you haven't been back to Japan since you were very young. Meaning, like the Nihon-philes I occasionally deal with at home, you haven't actually experianced what Japan is currently like. So your view of it is very distorted. I can say what my home state was like a year and a half ago, and I have been following the news, but I cannot state, perfectly, that I know what Nevada is like at this moment. I've missed out on a lot since I left home.

However, I see Japan every day. I see it right now. Around me I hear nothing but Japanese, I hear my students politely asking for permission to enter the teacher's room. I smell the green tea the teacher next to me is drinking. My desk is covered in Japanese materials. And I have an invite to experiance the foods of Hokkaido (not the beef however. :P ).

2. You have also stated that this is being somehow forced upon Japan and the Japanese population. You have not listened to anyone as they have stated, again and again, that the world does not work that way. People wouldn't accept it, if they didn't want it. If America was truely forcing Japan to addopt its culture, why then are most food places Japanese? Why can I not find ANY American food (beyond Oreos) at my local store? Why, when I turn on the TV, I see Hard Gay and NOT Tom Cruse (now there's a toss up on which is worse). When I teach English, the words are American, but the morals expressed in the book are very Japanese.

We have explained this over and over again, and yet you respond without acknowloging what we have said, or attapting, or even attempting to prove your point.

So yeah, you ain't listening to a word we're saying, are ya?

Addressing that:

1. As you have said in other threads, you haven't been back to Japan since you were very young. Meaning, like the Nihon-philes I occasionally deal with at home, you haven't actually experianced what Japan is currently like. So your view of it is very distorted. I can say what my home state was like a year and a half ago, and I have been following the news, but I cannot state, perfectly, that I know what Nevada is like at this moment. I've missed out on a lot since I left home.

However, I see Japan every day. I see it right now. Around me I hear nothing but Japanese, I hear my students politely asking for permission to enter the teacher's room. I smell the green tea the teacher next to me is drinking. My desk is covered in Japanese materials. And I have an invite to experiance the foods of Hokkaido (not the beef however. :P ).

2. You have also stated that this is being somehow forced upon Japan and the Japanese population. You have not listened to anyone as they have stated, again and again, that the world does not work that way. People wouldn't accept it, if they didn't want it. If America was truely forcing Japan to addopt its culture, why then are most food places Japanese? Why can I not find ANY American food (beyond Oreos) at my local store? Why, when I turn on the TV, I see Hard Gay and NOT Tom Cruse (now there's a toss up on which is worse). When I teach English, the words are American, but the morals expressed in the book are very Japanese.

We have explained this over and over again, and yet you respond without acknowloging what we have said, or attapting, or even attempting to prove your point.

So yeah, you ain't listening to a word we're saying, are ya?


I'm guessing the OP just takes a one-sided view - ie 'Amerikkka' is evil and corrupts all cultures. She doesn't take into account differing views or that people might actually want this and see it as a good thing.

As you have said in other threads, you haven't been back to Japan since you were very young. Meaning, like the Nihon-philes I occasionally deal with at home, you haven't actually experianced what Japan is currently like.

hay doez japan stil haev samurai??!?!?!?!??! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111oneoneone

I am dark. Got that?
I don't think I've ever seen someone miss the point by quite so much so quickly.
Explanation for the Sarcasm Impaired:
Fighting to maintain cultural purity to the extent that you force people to stay within certain bounds is no better than doing the same in pursuit of racial purity. Both are the pursuits of short-sighted fools with a streak of arrogance.

with a streak of arrogance.
only a streak? I'd say this is boardering on fully colored in

hay doez japan stil haev samurai??!?!?!?!??! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111oneoneone
*Pulls out another large mallet, starts whapping*
;)

*Pulls out another large mallet, starts whapping*
;)

Please, for the love of god, know I was joking. ;)

I need my internal organs!

*SNIP*
バカ...

Please, for the love of god, know I was joking. ;)

I need my internal organs!
Oh I know. I just needed to work out some stress and you're a handy target. ;)

*snip*

THAT'S AN AMERICANIZED PHRASE, STOP BEING A TOOL OF AMERICAN CULTURE.

http://nimbleswitch.com/journal/images/fu.jpg
My, how mature. I now see what you mean about the Japanese losing that little thing of respect. Unless "fuck you" now means "I concede"

edit: and stop posting it. A) its wasting bandwidth, b) its spamming, c) it is making you look even more unwilling to participate in debate and instead just sit there screaming "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" and d) its annoying.

THAT'S AN AMERICANIZED PHRASE, STOP BEING A TOOL OF AMERICAN CULTURE.
Sadly enough, some of my kids have picked it up and have attempted to use it. They have no idea what it means (beyond that it's a 'bad word'), and have NO idea when to use it either.

Hell, one of my teachers wanted to use a song that contained the lryics "fucking high" and got confused when I pointed out that might not be too good in the classroom.

I thought it was funny.
Once was annoying, twice is borderline image spam and a Mod-able offence. If you enjoy debating on this board, may I suggest that you rethink your debate methods?

*snip*
Fuck you? Oh, such a limited (and americanized) imagination!
Referencing Hellraiser, just 'cuz I can.

Once was annoying, twice is borderline image spam and a Mod-able offence. If you enjoy debating on this board, may I suggest that you rethink your debate methods?

Given she just did that, twice, in a Moderation thread, I think the OP might not be around that much longer. Seriously...she posted those images about thirty times in the thread.

http://nimbleswitch.com/journal/images/fu.jpg
http://nimbleswitch.com/journal/images/fu.jpg


So, no argument except that now? I take that to mean our points hit home, and you've got to resort to this.

Or, you know, you could continue debating seriously and refute our points.

-snipped due to...well....yeah.-
if you're going to suicide by mod, atleast do something worth while. (or better yet, just leave instead.)

Or, you know, you could continue debating seriously and refute our points.
Image spam is a proven debating method that goes back to the Ancient Greeks. It was originally invented by a young Socrates who, realizing that his debate against Gorgias was failing, proceeded to start drawing penises on the ground and screaming "LOL" at everyone near by.
It is a little known fact that this is what his killers were refering to when they accused him of "corrupting the youth."

Image spam is a proven debating method that goes back to the Ancient Greeks. It was originally invented by a young Socrates who, realizing that his debate against Gorgias was failing, proceeded to start drawing penises on the ground and screaming "LOL" at everyone near by.
It is a little known fact that this is what his killers were refering to when they accused him of "corrupting the youth."

I laughed, long and loud.

At 2:00 am in a Uni set of rooms. My room-mates may soon hunt me down and kill me, but it was worth it.

Image spam is a proven debating method that goes back to the Ancient Greeks. It was originally invented by a young Socrates who, realizing that his debate against Gorgias was failing, proceeded to start drawing penises on the ground and screaming "LOL" at everyone near by.
It is a little known fact that this is what his killers were refering to when they accused him of "corrupting the youth."

:D

バカ...
Hey, I know that one!
*feels special*

Image spam is a proven debating method that goes back to the Ancient Greeks. It was originally invented by a young Socrates who, realizing that his debate against Gorgias was failing, proceeded to start drawing penises on the ground and screaming "LOL" at everyone near by.
It is a little known fact that this is what his killers were refering to when they accused him of "corrupting the youth."
*Hands you a taiyaki* You, sir, are the master.

Looks like a fault of the Japanese for accepting this "crap culture."

Makes as much sense as some fatass suing McDonalds because it made that person too fat.
Nailed it with the first reply.

Right, debate over, class dismissed.

Fiddlebottoms, see me after class for a gold star.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11182591/site/newsweek/



Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!Question: Why do you live in the US?

Image spam is a proven debating method that goes back to the Ancient Greeks. It was originally invented by a young Socrates who, realizing that his debate against Gorgias was failing, proceeded to start drawing penises on the ground and screaming "LOL" at everyone near by.
It is a little known fact that this is what his killers were refering to when they accused him of "corrupting the youth."
I must say...
ZOMGSIG'D

Y'know, as one last thought here, I feel sorry for the OP. I mean, eventually she'll make her way to Japan, and I don't think she'll like what she finds here. The Japan she thinks exists, never did.

Kinda sad, in a way.

Being of Japanese decent myself, I can see why Kishijoten is upset. But common now, old Japanese traditions are kinda outdated. And it is our decision to buy American products and follow western ideals. Its just the changing of the times, live with it. To think of a world where I'm not able to buy my American Eagle and Volcom merchandise scares me a lot more than losing a few old traditions that I don't understand. I think this corresponds with a lot of Japanese youths now a days. Materialism beats the living shit out of traditions. So, you can't really blame the United States, it is a conscious decision accepting American culture, which ALOT of Japanese are doing now a days.

Being of Japanese decent myself, I can see why Kishijoten is upset. But common now, old Japanese traditions are kinda outdated. And it is our decision to buy American products and follow western ideals. Its just the changing of the times, live with it. To think of a world where I'm not able to buy my American Eagle and Volcom merchandise scares me a lot more than losing a few old traditions that I don't understand. I think this corresponds with a lot of Japanese youths now a days. Materialism beats the living shit out of traditions. So, you can't really blame the United States, it is a conscious decision accepting American culture, which ALOT of Japanese are doing now a days.
Now if they would only accept the taditions of insulation and central heating. I love my kotatsu, shoji, and tatami, but dear God, is it COLD!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11182591/site/newsweek/

Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!
I take it you are a "disinfranchised" NEET?

http://www.fpcj.jp/e/mres/japanbrief/jb_520.html
http://www.nri.co.jp/english/news/2004/041101.html
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print/news/nn06-2004/nn20040619f2.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3701748.stm

Wah. We want to make US Commercial Shit but don't want to be tainted by it! Oh and don't talk to me about being a Company Man either. I want to sit around in my Hello Kitty World pissing about my shitty NEET life.

Wah Wah Wah.

Grow up.

I take it you are a "disinfranchised" NEET?
Um... I believe the lady in question has noted that she is in America and indeed has been in the US for some time. Therefore, she cannot technically be a NEET.

Lol, I'm guessing your in the country side Nervun? Them country folk don't like change AT ALL.

Lol, I'm guessing your in the country side Nervun? Them country folk don't like change AT ALL.
I'm so inaka that some of the folks here have never heard of The Beatles, let alone that they broke up. ;)

Um... I believe the lady in question has noted that she is in America and indeed has been in the US for some time. Therefore, she cannot technically be a NEET.
But she so obviously wants to be one. Why not give her the solace of knowing that we think that she fits somewhere in Japanese society. :p

Edit: Alas, holding her chip on her shoulder she leapt from the deck of her Ship of Sorrows and was transformed by an act of Mod into a scuttling crab, never to know exactly how little we thought of her.

So sad.

Crab Rangoon anyone? :D

I dont know anything about current Japan, and I probably shouldn't be posting, but I just thought I would mention that I really like the Japanese history. Like, all the traditions and stuff. I love studying Japanese history, probably more around feudal Japan, though, and thats why I dont really know much about modern Japan. I'm sorta sad about it. I would really like to visit, but I dont see that happening any time soon.

Hell no! As a Cajun, I can tell you we're not French and the French couldn't produce food a pig would eat.

Some French in the bloodline, sure, but the culture is pure Louisiana swamp.

Cajun is an adaptation of Acadians the french speaking farmers who did not swear an allegiance to England, in the battle for North America. Britain deported the Acadians from the Canadian maritimes to Louisiana and Cajun food was developed in the Lousiana swamp.

Cajun is an adaptation of Acadians the french speaking farmers who did not swear an allegiance to England, in the battle for North America. Britain deported the Acadians from the Canadian maritimes to Louisiana and Cajun food was developed in the Lousiana swamp.

Yes, I know. But calling a Cajun "French" is like calling a Texan "American".

It's offensive. ;)

Yes, I know. But calling a Cajun "French" is like calling a Texan "American".

It's offensive. ;)


Thats exactly right. well, I dont know about the Cajun and French part, but I'm a Texan and I agree with that. :D Not that i mind being American, I like America. I just like Texas more.

Thats exactly right. well, I dont know about the Cajun and French part, but I'm a Texan and I agree with that. :D Not that i mind being American, I like America. I just like Texas more.
Nah, you Chechacos down in the tiny Lower 48 don't know what it's like to live in a real State.

Talk to me when you grow a Mckinley. ;)

Best thread based on a late seventies mod song about wanking ever.

Best thread based on a late seventies mod song about wanking ever.

I thought new clear days was released in 1980?

I thought new clear days was released in 1980?

The fact that the single charted in February of that year would seem to indicate that the song did actually exist in a finished form during the seventies.

Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!

don't blame us for your problems. i think the Japanese are adult enough to choose what they wanna choose. if you blame anyone, blame them for buying.

If the OP continues to refer to the people and government of the United States of America as "Amerikkka", I will be forced to come up with some sort of splicing of Japan and genocide.

Oh, wait. That would be racist, wouldn't it?

The fact that the single charted in February of that year would seem to indicate that the song did actually exist in a finished form during the seventies.

Ah..that makes sense. I actually have new clear days around somewhere. In my defense however, I was a pre-pubescent when I bought it.

If the OP continues to refer to the people and government of the United States of America as "Amerikkka", I will be forced to come up with some sort of splicing of Japan and genocide.

Oh, wait. That would be racist, wouldn't it?
Not to worry. The OP committed suicide by Mod a few hours ago.

Getting Permabanned is so cool. :rolleyes:

Not to worry. The OP committed suicide by Mod a few hours ago.

Getting Permabanned is so cool. :rolleyes:

Really? Huh. I musta missed that. What'd she do, since I seem to have missed it? The "fu.gif"s?

FYI. You can't complain about Japanese culture in amerikkka because unlike Japan, Amerikkka doesn't have a real culture.

well then what are u afraid of ? how can we import a cultrue we do not have ? lol

do u live in the US ? the sad thing about it people this is very commen amoung people that live in the US if they fail in american soicity they try to look to the past for something to "cling" to so they harken back and support policys and cultrail and social issues that no one in there right mind would support ? then they delude themselves to bring them to belive that there anstors land ... that there mom and dads fled was some how some kind of wonderful untipia ? if she went back to japan she would most likly be shocked at the fact the vast majorty of japaneses men and women dont agree with her at all .

just thinkng Kishijoten ? do u support getting rid of those Womens rights us white demons forced on to u =-P

also for the record japanese culture has had a huge impact on american culture and world culture for all we import in the u would be amazed at how much we import in culture . we are lucky cause in the US we are a young new nation so we dont have 5000 years of history as asian and euro friends have . so there is nothing holding us back or stoping us for inviting new people and cultral traits into are nations ..

u could argue american globalztion is the homomazation of all cultrals into one since the US does tend to import stuff from other nations then in a few years we look at it as american as apple pie cause it goes right to the main stream .. hence why we could have the rolling stones at the superbowl .

so maybe america is feared cause we are some what like the borg from star trek brining everyone into a world were we take from there culture what we want and dismiss the rest

and to that i say ... Restance is futile =-)

Kishijoten "? for the record u dont live in LaSalle IL do u ? i know a japnese girl that is very nice she went to college hoping some leftist prof didnt brain wash her into an anti american Crap slinger =-P

Really? Huh. I musta missed that. What'd she do, since I seem to have missed it? The "fu.gif"s?
Yep. Spaming them here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467464 and in Moderation was one of the lesser brilliant, if successful, tactics available...

Yep. Spaming them here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467464 and in Moderation was one of the lesser brilliant, if successful, tactics available...

:eek:

I can't say that I really knew her, but that is a little shocking that she'd go that far. The ignoring arguements and saying "Amerikkka is teh ebol" and "日本 pwns j00 n00bs", I could see coming a hundred miles away. But that? Wow. Just wow.

I think it's fairly safe to say that she has anger management issues.

So, no argument except that now? I take that to mean our points hit home, and you've got to resort to this.

Or, you know, you could continue debating seriously and refute our points.

Ironic, isn't it, that in 'traditional' Japanese culture, setting aside the inherent sexism, if she did such a thing she would either be missing a head to an enemy's blade or to a friend's (during seppuku).

Ironic, isn't it, that in 'traditional' Japanese culture, setting aside the inherent sexism, if she did such a thing she would either be missing a head to an enemy's blade or to a friend's (during seppuku).
Having a knock out, screaming debate like this in the first place is against Japanese culture.

Having a knock out, screaming debate like this in the first place is against Japanese culture.

Watching a debate that focuses on subtle implications would be so much more fun to watch, too!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11182591/site/newsweek/



Another reason for me to hate globalization and the greedy Americans that forced it on the world for their own monetary gain! Thank you for killing Japanese culture and making supporting Japanese culture Un-Japanese. America's cultural genocide absorbs Japan! Japan's new culture is America's crap culture!

Did you even read the article beyond the title? :rolleyes: If you had you might have realized that the things he mentioned were a bit at variance with his title. You would also have learned that the influence has been very much a twoway street. Seems to me also that if you read more manga you'd realize that Japanese culture is still very much Japanese. You might also want to keep in mind that Newsweek articles don't always have a one to one correspondance with reality. Please keep in mind that culture is what people *choose* to do and that change from the past does not undo the culture. I wish you hadn't gone and gotten yourself permbanned and I sincerely hope things get better for you in the future. If you need to talk to someone post a message at this place and I'll be glad to listen...

http://www.excelsis.com/1.0/entry.php?sectionid=6&entryid=3
Hope this helps! ^_~