NationStates Jolt Archive


Superbowl!

Eastern Coast America
06-02-2006, 04:17
21-10 Steelers!
IDF
06-02-2006, 04:18
More like 21-10 REFS
M3rcenaries
06-02-2006, 04:24
More like 21-10 REFS
I know... So many BS calls.
Naturality
06-02-2006, 04:24
The missed feild goals didn't help either. But they were still robbed.
Man in Black
06-02-2006, 04:27
Sore losers are the best kind! SO much fun to laugh at! HAHAHA:D
Valori
06-02-2006, 04:28
Yay Steelers!

*waves around Terrible Towel*
IDF
06-02-2006, 04:29
Sore losers are the best kind! SO much fun to laugh at! HAHAHA:D
I'm not a sore loser. I'm a Bears fan so I had no interest in this game. I'm neutral, but I know bad officiating when I see it.
Minoriteeburg
06-02-2006, 04:30
Sore losers are the best kind! SO much fun to laugh at! HAHAHA:D


i was waiting for your feedback MIB :p


Go Bus. Retire in style
Undelia
06-02-2006, 04:30
More like 21-10 REFS
Somebody's grouchy.
I’ve never understood you people who blame the officials. What do they have to gain by siding with one team over another? I’m sure they’re so sick of the game; they could care less who wins.
Harlesburg
06-02-2006, 04:32
More like 21-10 REFS
Only 3..................
It isn't like it was New England or anything.....
Naturality
06-02-2006, 04:36
I'm not a sore loser. I'm a Bears fan so I had no interest in this game. I'm neutral, but I know bad officiating when I see it.

I'm no fan lol. I don't have a certain team at all. I tend to like individual players more so than a team. No one in my family was ever into any sport, so I don't have roots in any.
Myrmidonisia
06-02-2006, 04:36
What amazes me is how difficult it is to actually fumble a ball. There are a lot of things that look like fumbles, but just aren't. The NFL needs to reconsider that rule.

The Seahawks need to trade Stevens. How many catches did he blow?
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 04:37
WTG Pittsburgh.

Thank you for winning it for Mr. Bettis.
Ssaulabi
06-02-2006, 04:38
Yay Steelers!

*waves around Terrible Towel*

YEAH BABY! WOO!! People need to realize that that game was the fairest called in any game the steelers played in this post season! And every one went to the other team. They were fair calls, made on dumb plays by both teams.
Fleckenstein
06-02-2006, 04:39
Somebody's grouchy.
I’ve never understood you people who blame the officials. What do they have to gain by siding with one team over another? I’m sure they’re so sick of the game; they could care less who wins.

coughgamblingdebtscough

yeah, i'm a philly fan. i had deja vu with seattle's clock management/play selection at the end
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
06-02-2006, 04:39
I'm a Jaguars fan, I didn't really care about the game participants. After all, the Jags beat them both this year. :p

I'm not going to say that the refs were bought or anything. I know someone will make a case for it because ALL you saw for the past two weeks was about the Steelers beating the #1,2, and 3 seeds in the AFC, and Bettis and his stupid parents.

But the officials DID make some truly horrible calls. I can think of four BIG ones, and they all went against Seattle. Not the same as the BlackSox, but I hate to see the superbowl get decided by the zebras instead of settled on the field.
Naturality
06-02-2006, 04:40
What amazes me is how difficult it is to actually fumble a ball. There are a lot of things that look like fumbles, but just aren't. The NFL needs to reconsider that rule.

The Seahawks need to trade Stevens. How many catches did he blow?

The missed fgs and the bad calls and missed calls hurt the Seahawks on top of their own mistakes.

Edit: You were right about Jeremy, he did drop quite a bit. The officiating in this game was horrible though. Something needs to be done. Still happy for Pittsburgh. But the bad calls and missed calls really hurt Seattle. The td in first half that got taken back would've made it 21 17. Still not sure on that td by pitts QB. Debateable. Over now though. Grats Steelers. And boooo to Montana and Bradshaw for not showing, assholes.
Krilliopollis
06-02-2006, 04:43
Well if sore losers make you laugh you'd be roaring at me. Everyone that saw those replays know deep down that the calls were flawed. Even the half-time announcers reiterated that some of the calls were weak. Seattle made it this far only to be robbed of victory by lousy refs.

We all know that someone is making a healthy donation to each refs favorite charity by midnight.(thier kids college funds):mad:
OntheRIGHTside
06-02-2006, 04:47
The refs raped seattle.

Seattle screwed up a bit

and

Pitt. had at least 2 badass plays.

Seattle would've done better if their asses weren't sore from all the rapage though.




The biggest 2 dissapointments of this year's superbowl: The adds... well... blew.

And

The Rolling Stones, specifically, Mick Jagger's tiny sparkle shirt.
Tikallia
06-02-2006, 05:01
Good game Steelers, but the officials did a shitty job.

They definitely had it in for Seattle. Bastards cost me $6!

Anyways, I'm saying it here: Patriots are winning XLI.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
06-02-2006, 05:09
Anyways, I'm saying it here: Patriots are winning XLI.

Um, no.

Actually, it all depends on what happens with the CBA.

If the CBA gets extended, then Washington will win it all next year. If not, my money is on Denver.
Tikallia
06-02-2006, 05:29
Um, no.

Actually, it all depends on what happens with the CBA.

If the CBA gets extended, then Washington will win it all next year. If not, my money is on Denver.

I think there's at least one more year left on the current CBA.

Either way I'm still betting on my Pats. It will definitely not be Denver, because Belichick wants revenge. Go Pats; the dynasty continues!
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:30
What's this cba thing?
The Ohio State Axis
06-02-2006, 05:39
Collective Bargaining Agreement. It has to do with the money, salary cap, etc. It can greatly effect teams' rosters.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:45
Collective Bargaining Agreement. It has to do with the money, salary cap, etc. It can greatly effect teams' rosters.

Thanks.
Tikallia
06-02-2006, 05:46
What's this cba thing?

CBA = Collective Bargaining Agreement

I might be wrong on some parts, but basically its the contract between the league and the players' union. Its covers things like free agency rules, contracts, trades, arbitration, salary caps, etc. Its also the Achilles heel of American pro sports, as every time there's been a strike or work stoppage in any of the big four leagues its usually been because the CBA expired and they had to negotiate a new one.
Tikallia
06-02-2006, 05:46
Damnit, beat me to it.
Harlesburg
06-02-2006, 05:49
Jeremy caught more then he didn't, iirc. JJ and that other WR ,cant remember his name, got most the action. Seahawks played well. Played better then the Steelers, but that just wasn't enough to get it. The missed fgs and the call(s) hurt.
You mean Jackson as the other WR?
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
06-02-2006, 05:53
I think there's at least one more year left on the current CBA.

That doesn't mean anything. You seriously need to read up on the CBA. With an uncapped 2007, all sorts of cap rules apply to 2006. If a new CBA is not agreed upon by March 3rd, any team in salary cap trouble or that has a lot of "dead money" in bonus amortization is seriously screwed. You can't cut a player and have their remaining amortization put onto the following cap year like usual. It will all accelerate onto 2006. You will have to dump large amounts of salaried players. New England, Tennessee, Philly and other teams with "healthy, yet mortgaged" caps will have to dump several high salaried players, not to mention having to get other players to take pay cuts if they even wish to sign their draft class. Washington and Indianapolis, who are in the worst shape, will have to dump almost half their teams, and will just about have to field practice squad players and cheerleaders. Only teams with very healthy caps and lots of spending room (Jacksonville, Denver, Arizona, etc) will be able to keep their squads together. AND, they will be able to pick up some high priced talent for cheap because no one else will have the cap room. The situation is much more severe than many people realize.
DMG
06-02-2006, 05:55
Is anyone going to make the argument of why the refs screwed up the game or are you all just going to say, They did and then point a finger at them.
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
06-02-2006, 05:56
seahawks did get some crappy calls(especially the offensive pass interference in the end zone, and that holding call at the beginning of the fourth, the steelers td was awful close, he might have broken the plane before he was pushed back a half foot), but they didn't play a stellar game either. it was a competative game and the seahawks have nothing to be ashamed of but the steelers won fairly if luckily and they are worthy champions.
Krilliopollis
06-02-2006, 06:07
Is anyone going to make the argument of why the refs screwed up the game or are you all just going to say, They did and then point a finger at them.

Who knows why they did it? Maybe they were bribed? Perhaps family members put money on it? Per chance even they put money on it? Possibly they were bought off? Again, who can really tell? It is clear that they did make questionable calls.
First quarter. Seattle gets a td only to have it taken away for a weak call of offensive pass interference. Gimme a break puhleeaase.
Steelers snag a third down td. The play is reviewed and it is clear that the ball did not cross the goal line. Yet they were awarded the td?
I don't remember the actual play but they also called holding when there was absolutely none to be found.
OntheRIGHTside
06-02-2006, 06:09
Is anyone going to make the argument of why the refs screwed up the game or are you all just going to say, They did and then point a finger at them.


At least 2 times, there was an obvious offsides by the steeler's defence, and the refs just ignored it.

And there were a lot of really screwed up pass interference calls on the seahawk's offence.



Plus the refs didn't seem to know the definition of what "possession" and "touching" are. at least, not until the steelers were on offence.


EDIT: OH!!!! WHY

Most likely because the croud was nearly 90% steelers fans? Hardly a neutral location, if you ask me. Maybe it had a big effect on the refs.
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
06-02-2006, 06:10
Who knows why they did it? Maybe they were bribed? Perhaps family members put money on it? Per chance even they put money on it? Possibly they were bought off? Again, who can really tell? It is clear that they did make questionable calls.
First quarter. Seattle gets a td only to have it taken away for a weak call of offensive pass interference. Gimme a break puhleeaase.
Steelers snag a third down td. The play is reviewed and it is clear that the ball did not cross the goal line. Yet they were awarded the td?
I don't remember the actual play but they also called holding when there was absolutely none to be found.
the holding call was on a pass down inside the ten at the beginning of the fourth, it was followed by a sack then a steelers score on their next possession leading to the final score of 21-10 steelers instead of a likely score of 17-14 seahawks with 10 minutes left in the game.
Krilliopollis
06-02-2006, 06:12
[QUOTE=OntheRIGHTside]At least 2 times, there was an obvious offsides by the steeler's defence, and the refs just ignored it.

(snip)

I saw these offsides offences also! I thought they were getting called on it but then they gave Seattle a penalty instead! Two right in a row! And he even sacked Hasselback on one of 'em.
OntheRIGHTside
06-02-2006, 06:13
[QUOTE=OntheRIGHTside]At least 2 times, there was an obvious offsides by the steeler's defence, and the refs just ignored it.

(snip)

I saw these offsides offences also! I thought they were getting called on it but then they gave Seattle a penalty instead! Two right in a row! And he even sacked Hasselback on one of 'em.


It was even the same guy twice in a row! Practically a full second before the hut, the guy charges in! It was horrible calling, really.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
06-02-2006, 06:15
For those of you who do not understand the salary cap and the importance of getting a new CBA:

This site focus on the Jaguars, but it is the best source of info on the cap. Go through the Salary Cap 101 series to learn all the lingo and rules.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/FeatureSeries.asp

Vic Ketchman started "Ask Vic", but had it stolen by another Vic, Vic Carrucci (of NFL.com). This question & answer series also focuses on the Jaguars, but you can see all the questions and problems with the CBA in the last couple of weeks. Vic is funny as hell and heaps on the sarcasm. But he is very worried about the status of the game, and he talks a lot about the problems coming up. The last week or so in January are good dates to look for CBA talk.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/AskVic.asp

The NFL is only alluding to the problem, because the possibility of a non-capped NFL, or a strike, or a lockout would be very detrimental to the game. Just look what happened last time. Or what happened to the NHL recently. Baseball STILL hasn't recovered from the last strike.
http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9206628
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9204548
Harlesburg
06-02-2006, 07:53
Is anyone going to make the argument of why the refs screwed up the game or are you all just going to say, They did and then point a finger at them.
Is that how it works?
Do we need evidence?
Can't we just blame the officials?
Boofheads
06-02-2006, 08:11
Not the most impactful miscall in the game, but the stupidest call was flagging Hasselback for an illegal block below the waist when he was tackling (!!!) the ball carrier. How in the world did none of the refs on the field see what actually happened?

All in all, the officiating during the regular season games I watched was pretty good. But the officiating in the playoffs was awful.
Harlesburg
06-02-2006, 08:14
For those of you who do not understand the salary cap and the importance of getting a new CBA:

This site focus on the Jaguars, but it is the best source of info on the cap. Go through the Salary Cap 101 series to learn all the lingo and rules.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/FeatureSeries.asp

Vic Ketchman started "Ask Vic", but had it stolen by another Vic, Vic Carrucci (of NFL.com). This question & answer series also focuses on the Jaguars, but you can see all the questions and problems with the CBA in the last couple of weeks. Vic is funny as hell and heaps on the sarcasm. But he is very worried about the status of the game, and he talks a lot about the problems coming up. The last week or so in January are good dates to look for CBA talk.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/AskVic.asp

The NFL is only alluding to the problem, because the possibility of a non-capped NFL, or a strike, or a lockout would be very detrimental to the game. Just look what happened last time. Or what happened to the NHL recently. Baseball STILL hasn't recovered from the last strike.
http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9206628
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9204548
I eagerly await th next NFL or MLB player strike because the idea of Rugby or Cricket being played or watched across America is fantastic.
Durhammen
06-02-2006, 10:48
I missed the game because I had to work. :mad:
OceanDrive3
06-02-2006, 13:58
Not the most impactful miscall in the game, but the stupidest call was flagging Hasselback for an illegal block below the waist when he was tackling (!!!) the ball carrier.exactamente.
Jello Biafra
07-02-2006, 08:35
I missed the game because I had to work. :mad:I missed most of the second half, so I can't say anything about the ref calls then, but the calls against Seattle in the first half were perfectly justified. It's as though the people are complaining because Seattle tried to play dirty and got caught at it.
Intangelon
07-02-2006, 15:22
The NFL needs to have a Super Bowl champion team from a large market, which led to incredibly biased and fucked-up refereeing. David Letterman shaves Ben Roethlisberger's straggly mug on "Late Night" -- what could he possibly have done with Matt Hasselbeck? Now I'm no conspiracy theorist, but holy living fuck, those calls were horrid. That "push off" called on D-Jack shows me that those refs have OBVIOUSLY never played any 3-on-3 in the streets. Let that prick come up here and I'LL show the son-of-a-bitch a fuckin' push-off. And calling an illegal block on Hasselbeck after the interception? HE TACKLED THE SON-OF-A-BITCH WHO ACTUALLY HAD THE BALL! That's illegal now?!?

Yeah, I'm a little bitter, but I'm over it. I'm mostly pissed at Jerramy "Buttafingas" Stevens. He opened his big mouth and then proceeded to screw the pooch without either a reach-around or lubrication. I was originally just tickled to death that the 'Hawks made it to the Big Game. I figured, honestly, that we'd get ploughed under like Columbia Basin soil, and I'd be content with the appearance. But when we began pimp-slapping the Steeelers up and down the field, and the refs started realizing they had to step in if they wanted their bosses' Bettis-dream to come true, well, I started to get a little mad. I realize it's mostly partisan disappointment talking, but you gotta admit, that was no TD on the Vinny-Testeverde-like run by Big Ben. I'm happy for The Bus, but he should be at least a little disturbed that his dream had to come true with the help of yellow not on his team's uniforms.

I guess I'm so disgruntled because I know the track record of Seattle pro sports management. If the Sonics can piss off Nate MacMillan after the season he posted last year with no expectations, and the Mariners can scare away Lou Pinella along with Junior, The Unit, A-Rod and Tino, I KNOW we're not going to get at least four key players back from this championship run. I am most afraid that the biggest casualty will be Shaun Alexander. Our teams have a history, and it has always left fans feeling like either abused children or like Kif Croaker, the long-suffering first officer to Captain Zap Brannigan from "Futurama".

Oh well. Just wait 'til next...thirty...year...s.