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Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:24
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:33
Is that in character or out of character? If out of character, my first suggestion would be putting it in character. If In character, I suggest tweaking your presentation a bit.


OK, Krakozha is expecting it's population to increase by one third in the next nine months
Pure Metal
06-02-2006, 02:34
congratulations :)
Ritlina
06-02-2006, 02:36
Get Earplugs. I Have A Year Old Nephew. I Know What It's Like. Get BIG Earplugs.
Kzord
06-02-2006, 02:36
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!

Er... be glad you wanted to get pregnant?

OK, Krakozha is expecting it's population to increase by one third in the next nine months

You post this in an RP forum by accident?
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 02:38
Congratulations.

Oh, say good bye to being comfortable for the next 9 months and being able to sleep for the next two years. ;)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:38
Get Earplugs. I Have A Year Old Nephew. I Know What It's Like. Get BIG Earplugs.


Ah, good advice my friend! I've already planned the purchase of duck tape to tape the sprog to the far wall should he/she annoy me enough...
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 02:39
congrats. Get this book---------> What to expect when you are expecting, (http://www.mamashealth.com/book/preg2.asp) it's kinda cliche but it really does cover just about everything, ween yourself off caffiene if you are going to stop, don't just stop all at once, it's no fun esp. when pregnant. don't buy maternity clothes until you absolutly have to, buy regular clothes in a larger size that way right after you have the baby you will have regular clothes until you lose all the weight, since by the time you have the kid you will want to burn the maternity clothes (they will be ugly to you by then and make you wanna puke) speaking of puking, carry a toothbrush, toothpaste, wet wipes, and peppermint in your purse now, morning sickness is no fun without them and peppermint is a pregant woman's wonder drug it helps nausea, and heartburn, and it's a stress reliever. Get a good OB asap, it's fundamental. Take your prenatals every single day, get the chewable ones if you need to, they taste good, and won't make you puke.

TG me if you need anything :D
Jewish Media Control
06-02-2006, 02:40
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven. So freaked out and happy all at the same time. Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!

Advice: get married. Did you know your ENDORPHINS increase by 10x when you're pregnant? ;) GOOD JOB!! Oh, yeah.. and quit smoking crack, that's my advice.
Iztatepopotla
06-02-2006, 02:42
I told you those were sugar pills :)

Congrats! Name your kid after NationStates.
Franberry
06-02-2006, 02:44
Comgratulations :)
THE LOST PLANET
06-02-2006, 02:46
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!Advice? Enjoy the excitement and happiness you're feeling right now.


It will wear off all too soon...
Ritlina
06-02-2006, 02:47
I told you those were sugar pills :)

Congrats! Name your kid after NationStates.
Nah, Name Him After Max Barry. Max Barry Krakozha.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:47
Advice: get married. Did you know your ENDORPHINS increase by 10x when you're pregnant? ;) GOOD JOB!! Oh, yeah.. and quit smoking crack, that's my advice.

Too late, married one year over Christmas!

GODDAMNIT, how will I cope without the crack?!? :confused: ;)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:49
Nah, Name Him After Max Barry. Max Barry Krakozha.

How about Barry Max Krakozha? Give him/her a little bit of independence! I mean, the kid's going to be typing up smart answers to other NS leaders before he/she learns how to walk, I mean, I don't want him to get a swelled head thinking he's THE Max Barry or anything....
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 02:50
Advice? Enjoy the excitement and happiness you're feeling right now.


It will wear off all too soon...


True. And my clothes still fit. And I haven't started puking yet.

The other half is here buying pregnancy books for fathers here beside me, it's funny to see a man freak out more than a woman about these things...
Ardchoille
06-02-2006, 03:00
Advice? Yeah: DON'T LISTEN TO ADVICE!

Otherwise you'll end up waking the poor little thing up so it can feed at four-hourly intervals; not waking the poor little thing up and freaking out your mother-in-law; worrying because it's crying; worrying because it's not crying; weaning it early; weaning it late; (whenever you do it, someone will tell you it's the wrong time, and doing it when you did it will make the kid obese/anorexic later); swaddling it to ensure restful sleep; not swaddling it to ensure proper bone development; taking it into your bed to shut it up; not taking it into your bed to teach it good sleeping habits ...

It's a baby, or it will be. Babies have got through millions of years without (insert latest cause of discord here). You're its parent, you decide.

That said, I swear by the following old wives' tales; I got them from a couple of old midwives and applied them most successfully:

Guinness Milk Stout really does bring your milk in; cabbage-leaves in the bra really do help inflamed breasts (eww but true) if there's no pharmacy open; and a tiny bit of Nestle Condensed Milk in a tube, properly applied, solves all problems with latching-on.

Speaking of which, youngling, I demand on behalf of all of my generation who fought the fight to make it possible to breast-feed in public that you do so at least once. Otherwise we'll slip back to the days of perching painfully in a toilet cubicle to, shock horror, feed a kid.

But if you do end up bottle-feeding, do it proud. Natural Nursing Nazis are just as bad as any other kind.

Oh, and disregard all the preceding post.
THE LOST PLANET
06-02-2006, 03:09
True. And my clothes still fit. And I haven't started puking yet.

The other half is here buying pregnancy books for fathers here beside me, it's funny to see a man freak out more than a woman about these things...;) Use it. Catch him now while he's weak.

Get him to make promises about care after birth that you'll be thankful for later. Make him think it's so he can be 'involved'...

One suggestion, get him to agree that since you're the one actually feeding the baby (assuming you'll breastfeed), he should be the one who gets up, changes the baby and brings it to you when it wakes up in the middle of the night. Tell him it's only fair as he can then go back to sleep and you'll be the one who has to stay awake and feed the child. If you pull this one off you'll thank me a million times later...;)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 03:14
Advice? Yeah: DON'T LISTEN TO ADVICE!

Otherwise you'll end up waking the poor little thing up so it can feed at four-hourly intervals; not waking the poor little thing up and freaking out your mother-in-law; worrying because it's crying; worrying because it's not crying; weaning it early; weaning it late; (whenever you do it, someone will tell you it's the wrong time, and doing it when you did it will make the kid obese/anorexic later); swaddling it to ensure restful sleep; not swaddling it to ensure proper bone development; taking it into your bed to shut it up; not taking it into your bed to teach it good sleeping habits ...

It's a baby, or it will be. Babies have got through millions of years without (insert latest cause of discord here). You're it's parent, you decide.

That said, I swear by the following old wives' tales; I got them from a couple of old midwives and applied them most successfully:

Guinness Milk Stout really does bring your milk in; cabbage-leaves in the bra really do help inflamed breasts (eww but true) if there's no pharmacy open; and a tiny bit of Nestle Condensed Milk in a tube, properly applied, solves all problems with latching-on.

Speaking of which, youngling, I demand on behalf of all of my generation who fought the fight to make it possible to breast-feed in public that you do so at least once. Otherwise we'll slip back to the days of perching painfully in a toilet cubicle to, shock horror, feed a kid.

But if you do end up bottle-feeding, do it proud. Natural Nursing Nazis are just as bad as any other kind.

Oh, and disregard all the preceding post.


Hey thanks! Well, I've got four others younger than me, so I have a little bit of experience with handling young'uns, but it's not the same as having your own. And never fear, I am a liberated woman, I will reserve my right to let my boobs hang out in public to ease my baby's gastric needs!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 03:15
;) Use it. Catch him now while he's weak.

Get him to make promises about care after birth that you'll be thankful for later. Make him think it's so he can be 'involved'...

One suggestion, get him to agree that since you're the one actually feeding the baby (assuming you'll breastfeed), he should be the one who gets up, changes the baby and brings it to you when it wakes up in the middle of the night. Tell him it's only fair as he can then go back to sleep and you'll be the one who has to stay awake and feed the child. If you pull this one off you'll thank me a million times later...;)


Ah, excellent advice. Then again, guess who wears the pants in this relationship ;) ;)
Katganistan
06-02-2006, 03:19
Get as much sleep in now as you can. :)
Ashmoria
06-02-2006, 03:23
congratulations!

this is a special time for you and your....husband?... dont spoil it with worrying about everything. babies have been being made for a long long time and as long as you keep a reasonable diet, take your vitamins and do a bit of exercise it will be FINE.

the advice i was given when i was needing to pick a doctor and hospital and all was to check the C-section rate of both the dr and the hospital. if your dr or hospital have a very high rate, you will end up with a C-section. so shop around and dont be afraid to ask questions.

dont expect to be able to script your pregnancy and delivery. ive known women who have a minute by minute expectation of how the delivery would go and are very upset when nature has its own schedule.

take lamaze classes even if you plan a C-section or to be drugged out of your mind. it will help you immensely. dont be afraid to take pain drugs if necessary. if the dr says you need a C-section, go with it. its not the "best" solution but its better than going 36 hours THEN getting it done.

give breast feeding a try. even if you can only do it for a few weeks, its good for the baby. if it doesnt go well, dont beat yourself up over it. babies do FINE on formula.

dont eat any more tuna.

try to relax and enjoy the changes your body is going through. its the coolest thing ever. youre going to love it.

whens the due date??
Minoriteeburg
06-02-2006, 03:24
Congratulations!
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 03:34
The other half is here buying pregnancy books for fathers here beside me, it's funny to see a man freak out more than a woman about these things...
Well, it makes sense. I mean, we've done our job and are more or less usless until labor when mommy wants to strangle us for doing this to her. But that still leaves us 9 months to try and come up with SOMETHING to help out (er, something that actually makes sense and doesn't gross us out).
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 03:52
Hey thanks! Well, I've got four others younger than me, so I have a little bit of experience with handling young'uns, but it's not the same as having your own. And never fear, I am a liberated woman, I will reserve my right to let my boobs hang out in public to ease my baby's gastric needs!
good. I was always surprised at the people that had a problem with me breastfeeding in public, once my OB got embarassed because I was feeding the kid when he came in to give me my birth control shot. :rolleyes: My theory, when the kid has to eat then the kid has to eat. ;)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 03:58
congratulations!

this is a special time for you and your....husband?... dont spoil it with worrying about everything. babies have been being made for a long long time and as long as you keep a reasonable diet, take your vitamins and do a bit of exercise it will be FINE.

the advice i was given when i was needing to pick a doctor and hospital and all was to check the C-section rate of both the dr and the hospital. if your dr or hospital have a very high rate, you will end up with a C-section. so shop around and dont be afraid to ask questions.

dont expect to be able to script your pregnancy and delivery. ive known women who have a minute by minute expectation of how the delivery would go and are very upset when nature has its own schedule.

take lamaze classes even if you plan a C-section or to be drugged out of your mind. it will help you immensely. dont be afraid to take pain drugs if necessary. if the dr says you need a C-section, go with it. its not the "best" solution but its better than going 36 hours THEN getting it done.

give breast feeding a try. even if you can only do it for a few weeks, its good for the baby. if it doesnt go well, dont beat yourself up over it. babies do FINE on formula.

dont eat any more tuna.

try to relax and enjoy the changes your body is going through. its the coolest thing ever. youre going to love it.

whens the due date??


Due date: Oct 13th
THE LOST PLANET
06-02-2006, 03:59
Due date: Oct 13thFriday the 13th... Cool:cool:
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 03:59
good. I was always surprised at the people that had a problem with me breastfeeding in public, once my OB got embarassed because I was feeding the kid when he came in to give me my birth control shot. :rolleyes: My theory, when the kid has to eat then the kid has to eat. ;)

Oh so true. I plan to go back to work though, did you? How did you manage work day feeds/expressing?
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:01
Friday the 13th... Cool:cool:

:eek: OMG, I hadn't looked that up:eek:

Ah well, a friend of mine turned 13 on Friday the 13th, he say's it's a lucky day fo him. So far nothing bad's ever happened to me on a Friday the 13th, just my luck this kid will be demon spawn or something
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 04:05
Oh so true. I plan to go back to work though, did you? How did you manage work day feeds/expressing?
I still haven't been back to work and my kids are 2 and 4 LOL. I have friends who went back to work while breast feeding and they would pump inbetween feedings the few weeks before to up thier milk production and also so they could store some. It seemed to work out great for them, although they had to pump at work, but thier offices gave them use of an office that was private and lock-able so that they didn't have to do it in the bathroom (yuck) most employers will work with you. Get an electric pump and practice with it a few times before you actually "have" to do it, because it takes some getting used to. I rented an electric for about $30 a month it was well worth the $ believe me.

Don't let the La Leche League guilt you either, if you can breast feed great, anything is better than nothing, but if you can't don't worry about it, I couldn't with my 2nd kid because I was on anti-seizure meds, and they never did let up, they kept saying "you are endagering your child by taking those meds, instead of nursing". :rolleyes: They are great when you need help. but don't let them guilt you one way or the other, you are the mom now, and you know what's right.

;)
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 04:06
:eek: OMG, I hadn't looked that up:eek:

Ah well, a friend of mine turned 13 on Friday the 13th, he say's it's a lucky day fo him. So far nothing bad's ever happened to me on a Friday the 13th, just my luck this kid will be demon spawn or something
my first date with my husband was on Friday October 13, 2000 it's a very lucky day :D It's magic :)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:10
I still haven't been back to work and my kids are 2 and 4 LOL. I have friends who went back to work while breast feeding and they would pump inbetween feedings the few weeks before to up thier milk production and also so they could store some. It seemed to work out great for them, although they had to pump at work, but thier offices gave them use of an office that was private and lock-able so that they didn't have to do it in the bathroom (yuck) most employers will work with you. Get an electric pump and practice with it a few times before you actually "have" to do it, because it takes some getting used to. I rented an electric for about $30 a month it was well worth the $ believe me.

Don't let the La Leche League guilt you either, if you can breast feed great, anything is better than nothing, but if you can't don't worry about it, I couldn't with my 2nd kid because I was on anti-seizure meds, and they never did let up, they kept saying "you are endagering your child by taking those meds, instead of nursing". :rolleyes: They are great when you need help. but don't let them guilt you one way or the other, you are the mom now, and you know what's right.

;)

Alas, I work in academia, I don't have an office, my desk is on the corridor, and even if I did have an office, I'll be sharing it with at least one other person. Looks like the bathroom for me then. Hey, cool about the electric breast pump rentals though, might look into that!
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 04:12
Alas, I work in academia, I don't have an office, my desk is on the corridor, and even if I did have an office, I'll be sharing it with at least one other person. Looks like the bathroom for me then. Hey, cool about the electric breast pump rentals though, might look into that!
don't let it gross you out(the rental) all the parts that actually touch your breast are replaceable so you will have new stuff, new tubing ect. just the motor is the rentable part LOL.


The bathrooms not so bad, sometimes. If that's what you gotta do you know.
Ashmoria
06-02-2006, 04:31
you have SO many wonderful times ahead. the first time you feel the baby move. the ultrasound pics, watching his elbow move across your abdomen from the inside, seeing her for the first time, that first real smile.....

wonderful days

when the time comes to decide when and if you are going back to work, do what seems best to you. staying home with your baby can be fun and rewarding but it just isnt for everyone. if you are good parents (and i have no doubt you will be) then daycare will have no bad effects on your child and may have several good ones. go with your heart and it will be FINE.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 04:32
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!

I'm having my first baby too.
Megaloria
06-02-2006, 04:42
I don't know what sort of advice I could give at this point besides buying some sweet Transformers for the kid in advance.

Why is everyone getting pregnant?! I just found out twenty minutes ago that a girl I loved who moved away and I lost contact with popped out a baby girl and is back home. Dad's out of the picture though. That means she's officially a MILF, to me, I guess.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:46
don't let it gross you out(the rental) all the parts that actually touch your breast are replaceable so you will have new stuff, new tubing ect. just the motor is the rentable part LOL.


The bathrooms not so bad, sometimes. If that's what you gotta do you know.

I suppose. On the plus side, I've got free and easy access to many, many fridges. OK, most of them have gross things like severed rats heads, disembodied brains and paraformadehyde in them, but at least two are suitable for food...
And, yeah, I guessed for hygiene purposes that all that kinda stuff would have to be replaced between renters, otherwise they wouldn't do much business. How long does it take to pump the required amount. I know they say about 20 minutes by hand/normal feeding time, does the electric pump work more quickly?
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:47
I'm having my first baby too.

HEY!!! Congrats!!! How far along are you?!? Maybe you can give me pointers as to what to expect over the next few months!!! :D
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:49
I don't know what sort of advice I could give at this point besides buying some sweet Transformers for the kid in advance.

Why is everyone getting pregnant?! I just found out twenty minutes ago that a girl I loved who moved away and I lost contact with popped out a baby girl and is back home. Dad's out of the picture though. That means she's officially a MILF, to me, I guess.

Well, considering the big baby boom in Ireland in the mid seventies, I suppose it's being passed onto this generation. I mean, we're all at that age now...
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 04:49
HEY!!! Congrats!!! How far along are you?!? Maybe you can give me pointers as to what to expect over the next few months!!! :D

About 6 weeks if what the doc told was correct 2 weeks ago or so. Stay close to a bathroom. I know I have to right now!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 04:58
About 6 weeks if what the doc told was correct 2 weeks ago or so. Stay close to a bathroom. I know I have to right now!

I'm hoping that I'll go the way of my mother - no morning sickness. All I have so far is a little nausea when I haven't eaten anything. But I will be investing in some ginger snap cookies. I had a box of them after my gall bladder surgery, they're great for upset stomach. If you can handle it, though, a small bit of raw ginger root is better...but obviously not first thing in the morning...
Danmarc
06-02-2006, 04:58
About 6 weeks if what the doc told was correct 2 weeks ago or so. Stay close to a bathroom. I know I have to right now!

Ahh, my friend has returned. It sounds as if you are leaning towards keeping the baby. Very good decision. My wife is currently 22 weeks pregnant, I may be able to give you some pointers, although they would be coming from a male perspective of what my wife is going thru. Please let me know if I can do anything to help.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:03
Ahh, my friend has returned. It sounds as if you are leaning towards keeping the baby. Very good decision. My wife is currently 22 weeks pregnant, I may be able to give you some pointers, although they would be coming from a male perspective of what my wife is going thru. Please let me know if I can do anything to help.

Yes, we are going to keep the baby. :) And thanks for your offer Danmarc! :)

I'm hoping that I'll go the way of my mother - no morning sickness. All I have so far is a little nausea when I haven't eaten anything. But I will be investing in some ginger snap cookies. I had a box of them after my gall bladder surgery, they're great for upset stomach. If you can handle it, though, a small bit of raw ginger root is better...but obviously not first thing in the morning...

Crackers have been helping mine but sometimes, I still can't keep things down.
Danmarc
06-02-2006, 05:08
Yes, we are going to keep the baby. :) And thanks for your offer Danmarc! :)

Any time... :)

Crackers have been helping mine but sometimes, I still can't keep things down.

My wife seems to do better when she takes things very slow, and if you normally eat 3 full size meals a day, cut it to 6 half size meals. that keeps you constantly getting nutrients for you and the baby, plus, if you don't keep it down, you are only losing a little bit, so you'll be getting more nourishment before long. Do you want a boy or girl?
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:09
My wife seems to do better when she takes things very slow, and if you normally eat 3 full size meals a day, cut it to 6 half size meals. that keeps you constantly getting nutrients for you and the baby, plus, if you don't keep it down, you are only losing a little bit, so you'll be getting more nourishment before long. Do you want a boy or girl?

To be honest, I do not know. I would love to have a girl I think though I know my bf wants a boy.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:10
Yes, we are going to keep the baby. :) And thanks for your offer Danmarc! :)

Crackers have been helping mine but sometimes, I still can't keep things down.

Well, apparently the morning sickness goes away towards the end of the first trimester. Try the ginger thing, even make one of your morning crackers a ginger snaps, see if it helps. And if it doesn't, at least it hasn't hurt...

You were going to abort? Hope you're feeling more hopeful about things now. Hey, if you ever need someone else to talk to, I'll be more than happy to share the ups and downs with you... :)
Danmarc
06-02-2006, 05:12
To be honest, I do not know. I would love to have a girl I think though I know my bf wants a boy.
That's ok, just keep the positive thoughts of "I want a healthy baby" and whether it is a boy or a girl you will be very happy.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:13
Well, apparently the morning sickness goes away towards the end of the first trimester. Try the ginger thing, even make one of your morning crackers a ginger snaps, see if it helps. And if it doesn't, at least it hasn't hurt...

I shall try that.

You were going to abort? Hope you're feeling more hopeful about things now. Hey, if you ever need someone else to talk to, I'll be more than happy to share the ups and downs with you... :)

My bf and I weren't sure what we were going to do. My parents helped a little but they decided to leave the decision totally up to me. So my bf and I continued to talk and pray together and we made the decision together to keep it.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:14
That's ok, just keep the positive thoughts of "I want a healthy baby" and whether it is a boy or a girl you will be very happy.

Yea! I am keeping that thought in my mind.
Ritlina
06-02-2006, 05:14
Wait Krakozha! I Have An Excellent (Here) Idea! (Comes) Have (The) An (Flames) Abortion!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:20
My bf and I weren't sure what we were going to do. My parents helped a little but they decided to leave the decision totally up to me. So my bf and I continued to talk and pray together and we made the decision together to keep it.

I'm glad you worked it out, I'm sure everything will fall into place as time goes on. And your bf will love this kid even if it's not exactly what he was planning. After all, it's half his fault too!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:21
Wait Krakozha! I Have An Excellent (Here) Idea! (Comes) Have (The) An (Flames) Abortion!

:eek: Why?!? I've been trying since last Sept!!!
Ritlina
06-02-2006, 05:22
:eek: Why?!? I've been trying since last Sept!!!
Oh, You Want It? I Thought It Was An Accident! Ok Then... Nevermind.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:23
Oh, You Want It? I Thought It Was An Accident! Ok Then... Nevermind.

OK, I'll forgive you.... ;)
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 05:26
I suppose. On the plus side, I've got free and easy access to many, many fridges. OK, most of them have gross things like severed rats heads, disembodied brains and paraformadehyde in them, but at least two are suitable for food...
And, yeah, I guessed for hygiene purposes that all that kinda stuff would have to be replaced between renters, otherwise they wouldn't do much business. How long does it take to pump the required amount. I know they say about 20 minutes by hand/normal feeding time, does the electric pump work more quickly?
once you get used to it, you can get it done in about 10 minutes, but at first it feels weird, and fake, and awkward, and gross, so your milk may not let down as easy, that's why I said to practice before you really "have" to get it done....

One thing I remember about breastfeeding is to always start on the breast you finished on, it sounds weird, but there are 2 "kinds" of milk in there, the first milk is thin and easy and the second thick and more nutritious, it's easier to get them to eat it when they are hungry, so each feeding say they empty your right and then get half way through the left, then next time start on the left (for the thick milk) and then let them finish the right that way they get more good (well, super good I guess) milk and you won't get as engorged. LOL.

You will be a little lopsided, but your baby will be healthier, and besides we are all a little lopsided now, and nobody notices but us........at least if they do they don't mention it.

I hope I am not grossing out the non-breastfeeders........:eek: :p
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:27
I'm glad you worked it out, I'm sure everything will fall into place as time goes on. And your bf will love this kid even if it's not exactly what he was planning. After all, it's half his fault too!

That was why we talked about together. Mostly in private away from our friends and parents. I know he'll love the baby as much as I will. I'm just glad he is still with me. I was afraid he was going to leave but he didn't.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:31
once you get used to it, you can get it done in about 10 minutes, but at first it feels weird, and fake, and awkward, and gross, so your milk may not let down as easy, that's why I said to practice before you really "have" to get it done....

One thing I remember about breastfeeding is to always start on the breast you finished on, it sounds weird, but there are 2 "kinds" of milk in there, the first milk is thin and easy and the second thick and more nutritious, it's easier to get them to eat it when they are hungry, so each feeding say they empty your right and then get half way through the left, then next time start on the left (for the thick milk) and then let them finish the right that way they get more good (well, super good I guess) milk and you won't get as engorged. LOL.

You will be a little lopsided, but your baby will be healthier, and besides we are all a little lopsided now, and nobody notices but us........at least if they do they don't mention it.

I hope I am not grossing out the non-breastfeeders........:eek: :p


Ah, sure, I don't mind being lop sided, I'll just stuff my bra with extra cabbage leaves!!!

Good tip though, cheers!!
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:31
Ah, sure, I don't mind being lop sided, I'll just stuff my bra with extra cabbage leaves!!!

Good tip though, cheers!!

agreed :D
Armandian Cheese
06-02-2006, 05:32
Anybody suggests anything even vaguely sounding like "abortion" and I will personally come to your home and give you one, whether you are pregnant or not. Gender doesn't matter either. -_-
Ritlina
06-02-2006, 05:33
Anybody suggests anything even vaguely sounding like "abortion" and I will personally come to your home and give you one, whether you are pregnant or not. Gender doesn't matter either. -_-
Like I Said, Here Comes The Flames.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:34
That was why we talked about together. Mostly in private away from our friends and parents. I know he'll love the baby as much as I will. I'm just glad he is still with me. I was afraid he was going to leave but he didn't.

Well, he's a decent guy then, I know plenty of men who upped and left as soon as they found out. Given that he was willing to sit and talk to you was a good sign. My mother got pregnant 11 years ago, and didn't tell my Dad till she was 5 months gone. Well, he flipped because he didn't want any more kids, but when my little sister was born, he doted over her so much, and still does. She's everyone's favourite, she's the good one. So, even if the worst happened, there's still a good chance that he'll at least want to be involved in the kids life afterwards, but I'm glad for both of you that he's sticking it out...
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:36
Anybody suggests anything even vaguely sounding like "abortion" and I will personally come to your home and give you one, whether you are pregnant or not. Gender doesn't matter either. -_-

Hmm, not shy are you?!? :p
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:36
Well, he's a decent guy then, I know plenty of men who upped and left as soon as they found out. Given that he was willing to sit and talk to you was a good sign. My mother got pregnant 11 years ago, and didn't tell my Dad till she was 5 months gone. Well, he flipped because he didn't want any more kids, but when my little sister was born, he doted over her so much, and still does. She's everyone's favourite, she's the good one. So, even if the worst happened, there's still a good chance that he'll at least want to be involved in the kids life afterwards, but I'm glad for both of you that he's sticking it out...

He's even going to be treating me to a wonderful valentines dinner. I'm just so happy right now. And I can see that your happy too :)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:39
He's even going to be treating me to a wonderful valentines dinner. I'm just so happy right now. And I can see that your happy too :)

Hey, that's cool! Yeah, I'm happy, cried a bit when that second line popped up on the test, so did my husband. Sounds like your other half is looking forward to the two of you becoming the three of you! And enjoy being spoiled while it lasts...!;)
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 05:42
Hey, that's cool! Yeah, I'm happy, cried a bit when that second line popped up on the test, so did my husband. Sounds like your other half is looking forward to the two of you becoming the three of you! And enjoy being spoiled while it lasts...!;)
on that note, whenever I was tired or cranky, or moody when I was pregnant and someone even so much as looked at me sideways I would say "I AM GROWING A HUMAN BEING, LEAVE ME ALONE" it works for a while, use it if you need to, it's true after all.

I have to go to bed now, seriously though TG me if you have any questions I know quite a bit, I am an information junkie, I read like 50 pregnancy books first time round and about 20 second time through, I love pregnancy, I am not having any more kids, but I think I might be a midwife.....LOL....so I can be around the pregnant people (pathetic right?;))
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:42
Hey, that's cool! Yeah, I'm happy, cried a bit when that second line popped up on the test, so did my husband. Sounds like your other half is looking forward to the two of you becoming the three of you! And enjoy being spoiled while it lasts...!;)

Giggles!

His parents do like me too but they aren't happy about this but they do respect the decision that was made. My parents are just going with it because they did say the choice was mine and will help me either way I went.

Its just going to put a cramp in school. I already missed a couple of days because of morning sickness. Luckily my bf gets my homework assignments for me to do so I'm not really behind at all.

And yea, I'll enjoy being spoiled :D

I also cried when I found out I was pregnant. Was scared too. Just glad I had people to talk to and pray with.
New Stalinberg
06-02-2006, 05:50
Please tell me your married...
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:50
on that note, whenever I was tired or cranky, or moody when I was pregnant and someone even so much as looked at me sideways I would say "I AM GROWING A HUMAN BEING, LEAVE ME ALONE" it works for a while, use it if you need to, it's true after all.

I have to go to bed now, seriously though TG me if you have any questions I know quite a bit, I am an information junkie, I read like 50 pregnancy books first time round and about 20 second time through, I love pregnancy, I am not having any more kids, but I think I might be a midwife.....LOL....so I can be around the pregnant people (pathetic right?;))

Thank you so much, will probably ask you for plenty of advice over the next 8 1/2 months!!! I'll keep you in mind, definitely! Yeah, bed here sounds pretty good too, exhausted!

Night!
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:51
Thank you so much, will probably ask you for plenty of advice over the next 8 1/2 months!!! I'll keep you in mind, definitely! Yeah, bed here sounds pretty good too, exhausted!

Night!

Night Krakozha. Feel free to telegram me if ya want :)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:52
Giggles!

His parents do like me too but they aren't happy about this but they do respect the decision that was made. My parents are just going with it because they did say the choice was mine and will help me either way I went.

Its just going to put a cramp in school. I already missed a couple of days because of morning sickness. Luckily my bf gets my homework assignments for me to do so I'm not really behind at all.

And yea, I'll enjoy being spoiled :D

I also cried when I found out I was pregnant. Was scared too. Just glad I had people to talk to and pray with.

There's the option of taking a year out, with all the stress and hassle of pregnancy, a year out, or at least some time out might do you some good. Plus, you might have to repeat anyway if you miss too much and fail your exams. But again, entirely up to you, you know best!

OK, I'm off to bed, but do PM me if there's anything I can help with, or any advice you can give me. Best of luck with everything though!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:53
Please tell me your married...

Yes I am, happily, but even if I wasn't, its not that big a deal any more...

OK, I'm doing right by the baby, and going to sleep now, good night!
New Stalinberg
06-02-2006, 05:54
Giggles!

His parents do like me too but they aren't happy about this but they do respect the decision that was made. My parents are just going with it because they did say the choice was mine and will help me either way I went.

Its just going to put a cramp in school. I already missed a couple of days because of morning sickness. Luckily my bf gets my homework assignments for me to do so I'm not really behind at all.

And yea, I'll enjoy being spoiled :D

I also cried when I found out I was pregnant. Was scared too. Just glad I had people to talk to and pray with.

You are how old?
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:55
There's the option of taking a year out, with all the stress and hassle of pregnancy, a year out, or at least some time out might do you some good. Plus, you might have to repeat anyway if you miss too much and fail your exams. But again, entirely up to you, you know best!

I'm afraid my situation is a tad more complicated than that. So far, I haven't failed a test yet :D

OK, I'm off to bed, but do PM me if there's anything I can help with, or any advice you can give me. Best of luck with everything though!

You 2. PM me as well Krakozha :)
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 05:55
I hope I am not grossing out the non-breastfeeders........:eek: :p
Grossing out no, scaring someone who is planning on having a family in a bit, yes. :p
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 05:55
You are how old?


26, almost 27...I'm old enough to know what I want...
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:56
You are how old?

I'm not giving out my age New Stalinberg.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 05:57
26, almost 27...I'm old enough to know what I want...

He was talking to me I believe :D
Qwystyria
06-02-2006, 05:59
I can't believe you're actually asking for advice - if you're anything like how I was, I got SO much unsolicited advice it was really irritating. I mean, perfect strangers would come up and want to touch my belly, and tell me to play baby mozart on my stomach to make the baby smarter. I can't look THAT approachable, but I guess being pregnant is like having a dog - it makes everyone feel like you belong to the world.

I'm the opposite of Smunkee on this one - I read like one pregnancy book, and thought "boy, this is stupid - it says everything that's common sense, and I'm not real worried anyway" and quit reading all the books everyone gave me. Take your vitimins, take care of yourself, drink enough, and eat little bits of food frequently for as long as your morning sickness lasts, if you can. Oh, and find someone to cook for you, if you're like me - I'd walk into the kitchen some days, and have to turn around and walk out becuase I was gagging just from a smell nobody else could smell.

Breastfeeding is really great. I'm still breastfeeding my 2 year old. (Ducks and flinches for everyone saying I'm a freak... I'm not, and the world-wide average age to stop breastfeeding is approximately 3 currently. A hundred years ago it was higher. A thousand, I'll bet it was even higher.) I still like breastfeeding. They look up at you with these huge trusting eyes... and you just melt. *grin* Pumping takes some getting used to, but then so does breastfeeding in general. I had to get the nurses to help me get her latched on for the first few days - I couldn't get her to drink ANYTHING without help. After that, I got really sore, but that went away too. Then it was wonderful. They both can be challenging at first, but it's worth it to keep trying and figure it out. If you can. If not, just feed the baby. That's what really matters.

Make sure you enjoy all the extra attention you get. As soon as that little one is born, everyone will stop asking how you are, and start asking how the baby is. *grin* but by that time you won't feel left out because they've spent 9 months acting as if your health were a matter of public concern.
New Stalinberg
06-02-2006, 06:01
Truly pathetic. It sounds like you could be between the 7th and 12th grade. You decide to have unprotected sex between I'm assuming between the ages of 13 through 18. My god I have absolutly no respect for people like you. Your child is a bastard. He will lead a crappy life. Oh wait, your poor parents are going to care for him. Do you really think that's fair to them? Do you even have a job? Medical care? Dental? I doubt it. The fact that you are "excited" about having a kid when your around 15 is even more bothersome. I simply can't believe this. If I were in your situation, seipiku would be the only way out. I would deserve no less.
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 06:04
Truly pathetic. It sounds like you coule be between the 7th and 12th grade. You decide to have unprotected sex between I'm assuming between the ages of 13 through 18. My god I have absolutly no respect for people like you. Your child is a bastard. He will lead a crappy life. Oh wait, your poor parents are going to care for him. Do you really think that's fair to them? Do you even have a job? Medical care? Dental? I doubt it. The fact that you are "excited" about having a kid when your around 15 is even more bothersome. I simply can't believe this. If I were in your situation, seipiku would be the only way out. I would deserve no less.
Dude, take your flaming somewhere else. It is neither wanted or appriciated here.
New Stalinberg
06-02-2006, 06:12
Sorry "dude" I just don't have any tolerance or respect for teenage parents.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 06:12
Truly pathetic. It sounds like you coule be between the 7th and 12th grade. You decide to have unprotected sex between I'm assuming between the ages of 13 through 18. My god I have absolutly no respect for people like you. Your child is a bastard. He will lead a crappy life. Oh wait, your poor parents are going to care for him. Do you really think that's fair to them? Do you even have a job? Medical care? Dental? I doubt it. The fact that you are "excited" about having a kid when your around 15 is even more bothersome. I simply can't believe this. If I were in your situation, seipiku would be the only way out. I would deserve no less.

Ya know? My mother always said that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

This is borderline insulting if not totally insulting. Am I scared? Most definitely but I do have a loving bf who is going through this with me. He is standing by my side through it all. He and I made this decision TOGETHER! Quite remarkable really. Yes it was a stupid mistake and this is the consequence of that one dumb mistake. I really do not care what you think.

My parents will be sticking by me and they respect the decision I made. They put no undo pressure on me and I prayed, yes prayed, about it constently till I settled on a decision. My bf prayed with me and I was glad he did.

So you can take your insults elsewhere because they will not hurt me. Only thing they do is make you look like a childish person.
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 06:15
Sorry "dude" I just don't have any tolerance or respect for teenage parents.
That's nice. I don't have respect for people coming in and telling a pregnant woman she should kill herself either, esepcially when you don't know her age or situation.

But as an FYI, the Moderators really dislike postings such as yours. Please keep that in mind and come up with more constructive ways to say what you want.
New Stalinberg
06-02-2006, 06:17
Ya know? My mother always said that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

This is borderline insulting if not totally insulting. Am I scared? Most definitely but I do have a loving bf who is going through this with me. He is standing by my side through it all. He and I made this decision TOGETHER! Quite remarkable really. Yes it was a stupid mistake and this is the consequence of that one dumb mistake. I really do not care what you think.

My parents will be sticking by me and they respect the decision I made. They put no undo pressure on me and I prayed, yes prayed, about it constently till I settled on a decision. My bf prayed with me and I was glad he did.

So you can take your insults elsewhere because they will not hurt me. Only thing they do is make you look like a childish person.

I truly pity your ignorance.
OntheRIGHTside
06-02-2006, 06:19
Ya know? My mother always said that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

This is borderline insulting if not totally insulting. Am I scared? Most definitely but I do have a loving bf who is going through this with me. He is standing by my side through it all. He and I made this decision TOGETHER! Quite remarkable really. Yes it was a stupid mistake and this is the consequence of that one dumb mistake. I really do not care what you think.

My parents will be sticking by me and they respect the decision I made. They put no undo pressure on me and I prayed, yes prayed, about it constently till I settled on a decision. My bf prayed with me and I was glad he did.

So you can take your insults elsewhere because they will not hurt me. Only thing they do is make you look like a childish person.


Most teen fathers will end up ignoring the fact that they are teen fathers.


I'm 15 too, and I realize that having a kid at this age is easily of the stupidest things I could do.

I figured it was common sense.
NERVUN
06-02-2006, 06:22
Most teen fathers will end up ignoring the fact that they are teen fathers.


I'm 15 too, and I realize that having a kid at this age is easily of the stupidest things I could do.

I figured it was common sense.
The fact that he is sticking with her this long is unusal, and gives hope that he'll stay longer.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 06:22
Most teen fathers will end up ignoring the fact that they are teen fathers.


I'm 15 too, and I realize that having a kid at this age is easily of the stupidest things I could do.

I figured it was common sense.

Trust me, we did not plan this. it is a stupid thing but ya know? I made my decision with my bf and I think that is why I'm not feeling guilty about keeping the baby.
Ogalalla
06-02-2006, 06:24
Truly pathetic. It sounds like you could be between the 7th and 12th grade. You decide to have unprotected sex between I'm assuming between the ages of 13 through 18. My god I have absolutly no respect for people like you. Your child is a bastard. He will lead a crappy life. Oh wait, your poor parents are going to care for him. Do you really think that's fair to them? Do you even have a job? Medical care? Dental? I doubt it. The fact that you are "excited" about having a kid when your around 15 is even more bothersome. I simply can't believe this. If I were in your situation, seipiku would be the only way out. I would deserve no less.
You are perfectly allowed to disapprove of WesternPA, but there is no reason to go to that kind of extreme. What good does one accomplish in lashing out at a mother-to-be? I am sure she will do her best to raise the child and the child will very likely turn out to be a productive member of society. She has obviously put a lot of thought into this and every one of us should respect her for that.
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 06:26
You are perfectly allowed to disapprove of WesternPA, but there is no reason to go to that kind of extreme. What good does one accomplish in lashing out at a mother-to-be? I am sure she will do her best to raise the child and the child will very likely turn out to be a productive member of society. She has obviously put a lot of thought into this and every one of us should respect her for that.

Yea I did put a lot of thought into it. Two weeks worth of thought.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 06:29
I can't believe you're actually asking for advice - if you're anything like how I was, I got SO much unsolicited advice it was really irritating. I mean, perfect strangers would come up and want to touch my belly, and tell me to play baby mozart on my stomach to make the baby smarter. I can't look THAT approachable, but I guess being pregnant is like having a dog - it makes everyone feel like you belong to the world.
I used to hate it when they would come up and touch my stomache, complete strangers, about half way through my 2nd trimester I started reaching out and touching thiers back, they would get this look on thier face like they had been violated and then this look of "oh, crap, she doesn't like that either" and then appologize, or turn red and walk off.

I'm the opposite of Smunkee on this one - I read like one pregnancy book, and thought "boy, this is stupid - it says everything that's common sense, and I'm not real worried anyway" and quit reading all the books everyone gave me. Take your vitimins, take care of yourself, drink enough, and eat little bits of food frequently for as long as your morning sickness lasts, if you can. Oh, and find someone to cook for you, if you're like me - I'd walk into the kitchen some days, and have to turn around and walk out becuase I was gagging just from a smell nobody else could smell.
I agree with all of that, it's like I said I am an information junkie, I research stuff to the extreme, everything, I have to look it up, know it. It's crazy. I suggested what I thought was the most comprehensive book, it should suffice for almost anything you need to know at 3am.

Breastfeeding is really great. I'm still breastfeeding my 2 year old. (Ducks and flinches for everyone saying I'm a freak... I'm not, and the world-wide average age to stop breastfeeding is approximately 3 currently. A hundred years ago it was higher. A thousand, I'll bet it was even higher.) I still like breastfeeding. They look up at you with these huge trusting eyes... and you just melt. *grin* Pumping takes some getting used to, but then so does breastfeeding in general. I had to get the nurses to help me get her latched on for the first few days - I couldn't get her to drink ANYTHING without help. After that, I got really sore, but that went away too. Then it was wonderful. They both can be challenging at first, but it's worth it to keep trying and figure it out. If you can. If not, just feed the baby. That's what really matters.
totally agree. I would have nursed my 1st one longer if I could have, but I had to go back on meds that were bad for babies. I didn't get to breast feed my 2nd and kinda felt like we didn't bond as well, like I had to work harder, but it turned out okay in the end, she still loves me. ;)

Make sure you enjoy all the extra attention you get. As soon as that little one is born, everyone will stop asking how you are, and start asking how the baby is. *grin* but by that time you won't feel left out because they've spent 9 months acting as if your health were a matter of public concern.
yep, about 3 weeks before your due date all anyone will ever say to you is "didn't you have that baby yet?!" they think it's cute but it isn't. Oh, and your parents/inlaws/friends will assume any time you call them after the end of your second trimester that you are calling because you are in labor,

"are you having the baby?"
"no, I am only at 31 weeks!"
"oh...." (they sound so sad here)

oh, one more thing, don't listen to the 'baby name people', they have stupid ideas for baby names (someone wanted me to name my first "Maryella Rayanne" :rolleyes: )
OntheRIGHTside
06-02-2006, 06:34
When I do have kids... my firstborn son will be named Jesse (JessEE pronunciation). My first born daughter will be named Jessie.


The first one's middly name will be John, and the second's middle name will be... uh...

hmm.


Hole.
Ardchoille
06-02-2006, 07:15
On the name thing: Be careful who you tell it to. You don't want to hear, "Oh, that's cute!" and then find out a week later that they've given their new puppy your baby's name.

On the book thing: With our first we both read every book we could lay hands on, listened to every medical person we could grab and wrenched all conversations round to, "What was X like when he was little?" so we could get the birth stories. Our first turned out to be colicky, opinionated and curious from birth, bless her, sleeping about two hours in daylight and in reluctant four-hour stretches at night.

Our second, her No 1 brother, was placid, quiet and slept whenever he was horizontal. It was just like having a sleeping-eyed doll. We were desperately worried. We knew from experience that this wasn't the way a normal baby behaved. He was physically healthy, but mentally ... ? We took him to our GP.

"Yes, he does have a serious problem," said the GP, looking sombre. HE stood up; began to pace; then turned to us and yelled: "He's got two bloody literate parents! Now will you two kindly go home and chuck all your baby books out, and don't let me set eyes on any of you again until it's time for his shots!"

Twenty-one years later, that baby's seeking a UN ... I dunno what you call it -- apprenticeship? -- and about to do a University exchange with a French uni. Where he got this work ethic from I just don't know.

Maybe we were right about him all along?

(Somewhere in there Nos 3, 4 and 5 arrived. But by then we'd figured out that the default setting on kids is 'awake and up to something', and anything else is sheer good luck.)

BTW, you're both welcome to TG me, too. The way the timezones work out, I'm likely to be cheerfully awake when you're soggily awake. It's soo-o-o easy to type while breast-feeding!
Harlesburg
06-02-2006, 08:00
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!
John Thomas (Last name Here) is a good name.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:14
I truly pity your ignorance.

Hey, shit happens, people make mistakes. She's doing right by herself, her bf and her child. It obviously wasn't an easy decision to make, and both she and her bf have shown that they are mature enough to make it, and therefore know the consequences of their actions. I just say congrats to WesternPA, hope everything goes really well for you, hope you have a healthy, happy bouncing baby in 8 months, and I know you won't regret it once that baby's born. Sounds like her parents both think she's up for the challenge, if they approve of her choice, it's proof enough for me that she is mature enough to get through this.
Eutrusca
06-02-2006, 18:18
OH MY GAWD!!! I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Knocked up. Baking a bun in the oven.
So freaked out and happy all at the same time!

Man. Anyone got any advice, it's my first!
Yeah ... relax. Women have been having babies for millennia. Besides, they have some really great drugs to make the pain go far, far away. :D
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:19
oh, one more thing, don't listen to the 'baby name people', they have stupid ideas for baby names (someone wanted me to name my first "Maryella Rayanne" :rolleyes: )

Yeah, ahve to agree, that is one bad choice of name! Never fear, I've already got names picked out. To avoid the bad luck thing of naming the child before it's born, we've decided not to know what the sex is till the big day. OK, it won't have frilly pink stuff if it's a girl or blue stuff if it's a boy for a couple of months, but white, green and yellow baby gro's, blankets and binkies will all work just as well for a couple of weeks till the pressies come in!!! ;)
Eutrusca
06-02-2006, 18:21
I can't believe you're actually asking for advice - if you're anything like how I was, I got SO much unsolicited advice it was really irritating. I mean, perfect strangers would come up and want to touch my belly, and tell me to play baby mozart on my stomach to make the baby smarter. I can't look THAT approachable, but I guess being pregnant is like having a dog - it makes everyone feel like you belong to the world.

I'm the opposite of Smunkee on this one - I read like one pregnancy book, and thought "boy, this is stupid - it says everything that's common sense, and I'm not real worried anyway" and quit reading all the books everyone gave me. Take your vitimins, take care of yourself, drink enough, and eat little bits of food frequently for as long as your morning sickness lasts, if you can. Oh, and find someone to cook for you, if you're like me - I'd walk into the kitchen some days, and have to turn around and walk out becuase I was gagging just from a smell nobody else could smell.

Breastfeeding is really great. I'm still breastfeeding my 2 year old. (Ducks and flinches for everyone saying I'm a freak... I'm not, and the world-wide average age to stop breastfeeding is approximately 3 currently. A hundred years ago it was higher. A thousand, I'll bet it was even higher.) I still like breastfeeding. They look up at you with these huge trusting eyes... and you just melt. *grin* Pumping takes some getting used to, but then so does breastfeeding in general. I had to get the nurses to help me get her latched on for the first few days - I couldn't get her to drink ANYTHING without help. After that, I got really sore, but that went away too. Then it was wonderful. They both can be challenging at first, but it's worth it to keep trying and figure it out. If you can. If not, just feed the baby. That's what really matters.

Make sure you enjoy all the extra attention you get. As soon as that little one is born, everyone will stop asking how you are, and start asking how the baby is. *grin* but by that time you won't feel left out because they've spent 9 months acting as if your health were a matter of public concern.
Excellent advice, IMHO.

And, just to set the record straight, your health while pregnant IS a matter of public concern. Be glad. :)
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 18:21
Hey, shit happens, people make mistakes. She's doing right by herself, her bf and her child. It obviously wasn't an easy decision to make, and both she and her bf have shown that they are mature enough to make it, and therefore know the consequences of their actions. I just say congrats to WesternPA, hope everything goes really well for you, hope you have a healthy, happy bouncing baby in 8 months, and I know you won't regret it once that baby's born. Sounds like her parents both think she's up for the challenge, if they approve of her choice, it's proof enough for me that she is mature enough to get through this.

Thank you Krakozha. And I thank you for sticking up for me :)

You are right that it was not an easy decision.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:24
Yeah ... relax. Women have been having babies for millennia. Besides, they have some really great drugs to make the pain go far, far away. :D

Yeah, but geez! It hurts like hell. Someone once said that gall stones hurt more, and I had them removed in September. Yeah, they hurt a lot, but I doubt it was as bad as labour. OK, well, epidural, here I come!
IL Ruffino
06-02-2006, 18:24
1. No dead baby jokes.
2. No smoking.
3. Name your first born kid after me.
4. Fluffle thy kideths.
5. Lottsa cookies. :D
Eutrusca
06-02-2006, 18:26
Yeah, but geez! It hurts like hell. Someone once said that gall stones hurt more, and I had them removed in September. Yeah, they hurt a lot, but I doubt it was as bad as labour. OK, well, epidural, here I come!
Even though most women say the pain is quickly forgotten after you hold the little person, if you want the relief, it's there. I've talked with any number of women who have had both kidney stones and babies. They said they would take the pain of having a baby ANY time. :)
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:26
Thank you Krakozha. And I thank you for sticking up for me :)

You are right that it was not an easy decision.

You're welcome :)

It's tough enough when it's a kid you've planned, but it's tougher when it was unexpected. Seriously, I've heard of people in their 40's getting pregnant by accident too, so don't just consider it a fault due to age and innocence, it could happen to anyone. Just take care of yourself! And that little one with you!
Europa alpha
06-02-2006, 18:27
Give up ALL vices.
And dont eat crap :P
Lots and lots of fish and protein cos that helps the babies brain.
...im ASSUMing you know who the father is, and that your ...semi-prepared for a baby.
Tell him get a house and be middle class dammit!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:27
1. No dead baby jokes.
2. No smoking.
3. Name your first born kid after me.
4. Fluffle thy kideths.
5. Lottsa cookies. :D

Have to agree with rule number 5, man. I bought a box of gourmet cookies with my pregnancy tests. My hubbie thought it was hilarious but then helped me polish them off.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:29
Even though most women say the pain is quickly forgotten after you hold the little person, if you want the relief, it's there. I've talked with any number of women who have had both kidney stones and babies. They said they would take the pain of having a baby ANY time. :)

Well, I'll go as long as I can without the pain meds. My mother told me that if you just think, as you're going through all that pain, that the following day, it'll all be over, then it makes the pain bearable.

?Still really don't like pain though....
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 18:29
You're welcome :)

It's tough enough when it's a kid you've planned, but it's tougher when it was unexpected. Seriously, I've heard of people in their 40's getting pregnant by accident too, so don't just consider it a fault due to age and innocence, it could happen to anyone. Just take care of yourself! And that little one with you!

Believe me, I'm doing all I can to take care of myself. If I didn't, my bf would be displeased. :D
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 18:30
Give up ALL vices.
And dont eat crap :P
Lots and lots of fish and protein cos that helps the babies brain.
...im ASSUMing you know who the father is, and that your ...semi-prepared for a baby.
Tell him get a house and be middle class dammit!


I'm married, living with Daddy, who cried with joy when he found out, BTW, he's a doctor (not MD though), takes care of me really well, and yes, this one was planned, we've been trying since sept!
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 19:14
Believe me, I'm doing all I can to take care of myself. If I didn't, my bf would be displeased. :D

Ah, guilt trip him into taking care of you a bit more...

Hey, might give you some hope. My cousin had a kid when she was sixteen. Of course, the boyf freaked out and ran, but within two weeks, he was back to take care of both of them. That little baby is now sixteen herself, doing well in school, etc, etc, image of her mum, and both of her parents are still together, very happy and planning to get married soon! And the boyfriend is everyone's best friend, my aunt and uncle are crazy about him, even my grandmother loved him when she was alive, despite the tattooes! I think you'll both do well, he know's what he's in for now...

Well, I suppose you've gotten a Valentines meal out of him so far, try to keep up the 'spoil me' look, I plan to! He's happy about the whole thing, have to admit, even though I'm happy, I'm absolutely terrified, especially of the giving birth thing...
Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 19:43
Well, I suppose you've gotten a Valentines meal out of him so far, try to keep up the 'spoil me' look, I plan to! He's happy about the whole thing, have to admit, even though I'm happy, I'm absolutely terrified, especially of the giving birth thing...
don't worry about the giving birth thing now, you have so much fun 1st and 2nd trimester stuff to worry about (morning sickness, edema,being tired all the time,crazy cravings, ect.)

I was in labor for like 65 hours with my first kid, no drugs, it was fine (not fine while it was going on, but I lived through it) take the drugs if you need them (if they will let you) the pain is forgotten after you have the kid, I still don't really think it was that bad, I was only in labor with my second for 20 hours, it was a peice of cake, I ended up having C-Sections both times though, and that's not great fun (major surgery plus postpartum :()

it will be fine, go to a childbirth class ( I never did, but my sister in law says they are good) and see what will happen that will either calm your fears or freak you out............
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 20:45
don't worry about the giving birth thing now, you have so much fun 1st and 2nd trimester stuff to worry about (morning sickness, edema,being tired all the time,crazy cravings, ect.)

I was in labor for like 65 hours with my first kid, no drugs, it was fine (not fine while it was going on, but I lived through it) take the drugs if you need them (if they will let you) the pain is forgotten after you have the kid, I still don't really think it was that bad, I was only in labor with my second for 20 hours, it was a peice of cake, I ended up having C-Sections both times though, and that's not great fun (major surgery plus postpartum :()

it will be fine, go to a childbirth class ( I never did, but my sister in law says they are good) and see what will happen that will either calm your fears or freak you out............

I'm hoping that my experiences are similar to my mother's. When the fourth child was born, I was 10, and I ran into the hallway, being chased by my little sister, then 7. And my mother, who was leaning up against the wall with one hand, said through gritted teeth, 'Get your father now'. So he bundled all three of us into the car, the youngest being 2, and drove WAYYYYY too fast to the maternity hospital 5 minutes away. 20 minutes later, he came back out and announced that we had a new baby brother. That was fast. I hope this one goes well. Apart from me, she never had problems giving birth, possibly the wide hips help somewhat, and I'm wider than her. So here's hoping....

Apparently, my mum, who had a c-section on the fifth (developmental problems, it was advised for the baby's sake) say's that c-section is probably better than natural childbirth. No pain during, although the down side was that you've got post operative pain to deal with and a longer recovery period....
Deep Kimchi
06-02-2006, 20:58
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Smunkeeville
06-02-2006, 21:01
Apparently, my mum, who had a c-section on the fifth (developmental problems, it was advised for the baby's sake) say's that c-section is probably better than natural childbirth. No pain during, although the down side was that you've got post operative pain to deal with and a longer recovery period....
yeah there is no pain during the actual surgery, but the labor before and the pain after I think made up for it, there is a lot of pressure though since they still push the baby out, I thought they were going to crush my chest, you are awake the whole time and you can't feel pain, but you can feel pressure and pulling and such, it's really weird.
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 21:22
yeah there is no pain during the actual surgery, but the labor before and the pain after I think made up for it, there is a lot of pressure though since they still push the baby out, I thought they were going to crush my chest, you are awake the whole time and you can't feel pain, but you can feel pressure and pulling and such, it's really weird.

Yeah, I think that would be the worst part. Feeling them doing something aweful to you behind that sheet and not being able to do anything about it. Geez, it was bad enough when they cut a mole off under local anaesthetic, it felt horrible, can't imagine having my abdomen dissected while I'm awake, but it is better for the baby, I know...here's keeping my fingers crossed that a c-section is not in the cards for me, I doubt I could handle it awake...
Krakozha
06-02-2006, 21:23
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That's funny. And kinda true...........:rolleyes:
WesternPA
06-02-2006, 22:16
Ah, guilt trip him into taking care of you a bit more...

Will do :)

Hey, might give you some hope. My cousin had a kid when she was sixteen. Of course, the boyf freaked out and ran, but within two weeks, he was back to take care of both of them. That little baby is now sixteen herself, doing well in school, etc, etc, image of her mum, and both of her parents are still together, very happy and planning to get married soon! And the boyfriend is everyone's best friend, my aunt and uncle are crazy about him, even my grandmother loved him when she was alive, despite the tattooes! I think you'll both do well, he know's what he's in for now...

Thanks :) I do have a feeling that all three of us will be just fine! He really does adore me.

Well, I suppose you've gotten a Valentines meal out of him so far, try to keep up the 'spoil me' look, I plan to! He's happy about the whole thing, have to admit, even though I'm happy, I'm absolutely terrified, especially of the giving birth thing...

hehe. Spoil me look. I like that. Yea, I'll do that.
Ardchoille
06-02-2006, 23:36
Ridiculous though it may seem ... RL's not smooth going at the moment, but last night I found myself feeling repeated little stabs of happiness because you two (whom I don't even know) are having babies.

Is this grandmotherhood?
Van de Kerkhof
07-02-2006, 00:57
That's funny. And kinda true...........:rolleyes:

Hi everyone, let me introduce myself, especially as this is my first post - I'm Krakozha's husband! She's been bouncing off the walls with excitement since we found out - but I must clarify that she's eaten all the cookies and I've not ate in over 24 hours.....
Smunkeeville
07-02-2006, 01:02
Hi everyone, let me introduce myself, especially as this is my first post - I'm Krakozha's husband! She's been bouncing off the walls with excitement since we found out - but I must clarify that she's eaten all the cookies and I've not ate in over 24 hours.....
get used to it, she is growing a human, and it's all your fault, she was walking around 'not pregant' before you :p (just kidding)

When I was in labor with my first they wouldn't let me eat, and my hubby didn't want to eat in front of me, and didn't one to leave me, so he went 65 hours without eating, just drinking water (which I couldn't have either) I don't think he went to the bathroom even :eek:
Van de Kerkhof
07-02-2006, 01:12
get used to it, she is growing a human, and it's all your fault, she was walking around 'not pregant' before you :p (just kidding)

When I was in labor with my first they wouldn't let me eat, and my hubby didn't want to eat in front of me, and didn't one to leave me, so he went 65 hours without eating, just drinking water (which I couldn't have either) I don't think he went to the bathroom even :eek:

I know - she's trying on the 'Go away, I'm growing a person' line on me, but with not a lot of success ;)

Poor lad, sounds like he was in need of hospitalisation himself!
Smunkeeville
07-02-2006, 01:18
I know - she's trying on the 'Go away, I'm growing a person' line on me, but with not a lot of success ;)
oh, cut her a little slack, from day one the kid has been changing her body, her hormones, her chemicals, messing with her sleep, eating, ect. I read once that in the first 3 months the baby takes 15% of your blood supply and uses 10% of your oxygen, her body is trying hard to compensate, it's going to make her tired and crazy, and unable to concentrate, and irritable, for a while, then the more noticable symptoms appear. It's okay 2nd trimester is super fun for all involved, her body will have caught up to the baby, and she will have more energy and feel great. You just have to stick it out, you can make it I promise.

Poor lad, sounds like he was in need of hospitalisation himself!
yeah, he went once when I was about 2 months pregnant on a search for the specific animal cookies I wanted, there was 1 ft. of ice on the roads, and he drove around for 2 hours until he found them. He was great. He stayed home for 3 weeks after both kids were born to split the nights with me, I would feed and he would change diapers and rock the baby so that I could get some rest. When he went back to work we would take the nights in shifts, before 2am was me and after was him. It was great. :D
NERVUN
07-02-2006, 01:26
Even though most women say the pain is quickly forgotten after you hold the little person, if you want the relief, it's there. I've talked with any number of women who have had both kidney stones and babies. They said they would take the pain of having a baby ANY time. :)
I think that has more to do with the fact that afterwards you can cuddle up to the baby, but I've NEVER heard of anyone doing the same with a kidney stone. ;)
Van de Kerkhof
07-02-2006, 01:26
oh, cut her a little slack, from day one the kid has been changing her body, her hormones, her chemicals, messing with her sleep, eating, ect. I read once that in the first 3 months the baby takes 15% of your blood supply and uses 10% of your oxygen, her body is trying hard to compensate, it's going to make her tired and crazy, and unable to concentrate, and irritable, for a while, then the more noticable symptoms appear. It's okay 2nd trimester is super fun for all involved, her body will have caught up to the baby, and she will have more energy and feel great. You just have to stick it out, you can make it I promise.



I feel guilty - shhhh, don't tell her though ;)

Then again, she really knows how I feel about it, so don't worry :D
Krakozha
07-02-2006, 01:58
get used to it, she is growing a human, and it's all your fault, she was walking around 'not pregant' before you :p (just kidding)


Hear hear!!
Krakozha
07-02-2006, 01:59
Ridiculous though it may seem ... RL's not smooth going at the moment, but last night I found myself feeling repeated little stabs of happiness because you two (whom I don't even know) are having babies.

Is this grandmotherhood?


Aw, so sweet, thank you!!
Krakozha
07-02-2006, 02:02
I think that has more to do with the fact that afterwards you can cuddle up to the baby, but I've NEVER heard of anyone doing the same with a kidney stone. ;)

But kidney stones are so small and cute! I mean, how can anyone not find kidney stones cuddly?!?

OK, maybe the emotional bit's coming out a bit too much now...
Smunkeeville
07-02-2006, 02:04
But kidney stones are so small and cute! I mean, how can anyone not find kidney stones cuddly?!?

OK, maybe the emotional bit's coming out a bit too much now...
oh yeah, about that, I got the teary eye thing going with my 2nd (I would cry over cell phone commercials :rolleyes: ) it's a good idea when you are having a teary day to watch a sad movie, that way you can get your good cry out and move on, otherwise you could spend a few weeks on the verge of tears for no good reason.
Krakozha
07-02-2006, 02:08
oh yeah, about that, I got the teary eye thing going with my 2nd (I would cry over cell phone commercials :rolleyes: ) it's a good idea when you are having a teary day to watch a sad movie, that way you can get your good cry out and move on, otherwise you could spend a few weeks on the verge of tears for no good reason.

OK, well noticed today that I almost burst into tears about stupid things like, I don't know, the vendor I was going to buy something for the lab from was charging too much. It was easy to find the vendor I bought it from the last time, but it would have been on the verge of theatrical if I hadn't told myslef to cop on.
As for the sad movies, I'm a big softy. I bawl my eyes out every time I watch Shakespeare in Love, the ending really gets to me every time...take it that would be a good one to keep on hand then..
WesternPA
07-02-2006, 04:52
Hi everyone, let me introduce myself, especially as this is my first post - I'm Krakozha's husband! She's been bouncing off the walls with excitement since we found out - but I must clarify that she's eaten all the cookies and I've not ate in over 24 hours.....

*waves to Krakozha's husband while nibbling on a cookie*
WesternPA
07-02-2006, 04:54
But kidney stones are so small and cute! I mean, how can anyone not find kidney stones cuddly?!?

OK, maybe the emotional bit's coming out a bit too much now...

Hey? I'm already emotional :D
WesternPA
07-02-2006, 05:07
Ridiculous though it may seem ... RL's not smooth going at the moment, but last night I found myself feeling repeated little stabs of happiness because you two (whom I don't even know) are having babies.

Is this grandmotherhood?

Thank you :)

That means alot! Thanks :)
Krakozha
07-02-2006, 21:11
Hey? I'm already emotional :D

Well, we're allowed at this time of our lives! Plus, we're girls being emotional is our God given right!
WesternPA
08-02-2006, 00:00
Well, we're allowed at this time of our lives! Plus, we're girls being emotional is our God given right!

Here here :)

I agree 100%! Of course, it does irritate my bf but he is taking it in stride :D
Legless Pirates
08-02-2006, 00:02
Don't drop the kid
WesternPA
08-02-2006, 00:08
Don't drop the kid

Now this is good advice :D
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 17:17
Don't drop the kid

I was dropped on my head when I was a baby, it didin't do me any harm...

Who are you again?

WHAT?!? I'm pregnant?!?


;)
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 17:20
Um, to the ladies with kids (both born and unborn) out there, when you found out about your little bundle of joy, did your husband/boyfriend/partner make that little extra effort to, well, you know, annoy the shit out of you?!? He's claiming that it's to entertain me, I'm not sure yet he understands about the mood swings associated with early pregnany.

Should I warn him?
Gift-of-god
08-02-2006, 17:26
First off, don't listen to other people's advice (except that thing about dropping the baby, maybe).

Youhave to find what's right for you. We decided to deliver the baby ourselves, not use diapers, have the kids sleep in our bed, breastfeed, etc.

All the happy hippie things!

Does this work for everyone? No, but it worked for us. If you have any questions and doubts, do the research, and talk to people who agree and disagree with whatever it is you are considering.

You are a woman, therefore God or evolution has designed you to do this. Believe in yourself. The rest is details.

By the way, if you have any questions about any of the above practices, let me know.
Eutrusca
08-02-2006, 17:34
Well, I'll go as long as I can without the pain meds. My mother told me that if you just think, as you're going through all that pain, that the following day, it'll all be over, then it makes the pain bearable.

?Still really don't like pain though....
Just a word of caution: saddle blocks don't work fast enough to help you if you decide you need one after the pain begins. If you think you're not going to want the pain, then decide early on and let your doctor know.
Lunatic Goofballs
08-02-2006, 17:35
Rest up. Conserve your strength. Enjoy eight hour sleeps while you still can.

Oh, and don't underestimate the value of those 'sounds of nature' white noise generators. They are worth their weight in cocaine-encrusted diamonds. :)
Eutrusca
08-02-2006, 17:37
I think that has more to do with the fact that afterwards you can cuddle up to the baby, but I've NEVER heard of anyone doing the same with a kidney stone. ;)
ROFLMFAO!!

Uh ... anyone who cuddles up with a kidney stone should be watched very, very closely! :D
Eutrusca
08-02-2006, 17:39
Ridiculous though it may seem ... RL's not smooth going at the moment, but last night I found myself feeling repeated little stabs of happiness because you two (whom I don't even know) are having babies.

Is this grandmotherhood?
Perhaps a pale shadow of it. :)
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:07
First off, don't listen to other people's advice (except that thing about dropping the baby, maybe).

Youhave to find what's right for you. We decided to deliver the baby ourselves, not use diapers, have the kids sleep in our bed, breastfeed, etc.

All the happy hippie things!

Does this work for everyone? No, but it worked for us. If you have any questions and doubts, do the research, and talk to people who agree and disagree with whatever it is you are considering.

You are a woman, therefore God or evolution has designed you to do this. Believe in yourself. The rest is details.

By the way, if you have any questions about any of the above practices, let me know.

How did you manage without using diapers?
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:09
Just a word of caution: saddle blocks don't work fast enough to help you if you decide you need one after the pain begins. If you think you're not going to want the pain, then decide early on and let your doctor know.

Oh man, pain and me don't mix well, it's epidural all the way! I know it means that it'll take longer to push out the baby when you can't feel what's going on, but I'm of the opinion that if there's a way of getting me OUT of screaming agony, why not take advantage of that option!
Smunkeeville
08-02-2006, 19:09
How did you manage without using diapers?
I am going to guess they used cloth diapers, or maybe if they were "really brave" used the straw sack, you use a reusable sack of straw and then turn the waste into compost, I know someone who was going to do that, the first poop from the baby though and they switched to cloth, that first baby poop (first week or so) is toxic.
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:16
ROFLMFAO!!

Uh ... anyone who cuddles up with a kidney stone should be watched very, very closely! :D

Well, if the pain's as bad as childbirth, why not harbour an affection for your new born calcified material!
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:20
I am going to guess they used cloth diapers, or maybe if they were "really brave" used the straw sack, you use a reusable sack of straw and then turn the waste into compost, I know someone who was going to do that, the first poop from the baby though and they switched to cloth, that first baby poop (first week or so) is toxic.


Yeah, I remember my younger brothers (not my baby sister though, she was 3 weeks old coming home from the hospital - spina bifida). The stuff was dark green. My mother used terry cloth nappies for the first one, mostly because it was cheaper than disposibles, but the smell of the disinfectant alone was enough to make her change tactics!

But sack of straw? I can't imagine that it's very comfortable! My grandparents own a small piece of land and occassionally raise cattle on it, so keep straw and hay, both of which I've rolled around it, and I used to spend days picking the stuff out of my clothes and hair, even through to my underwear!
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:21
I am going to guess they used cloth diapers, or maybe if they were "really brave" used the straw sack, you use a reusable sack of straw and then turn the waste into compost, I know someone who was going to do that, the first poop from the baby though and they switched to cloth, that first baby poop (first week or so) is toxic.

Actually, before I forget again. With breastfeeding, the baby passes less stools and has less gas and wet burps than a baby on formula? I think Sinahue mentioned that before, but a confirmation from another mother would be helpful!
Smunkeeville
08-02-2006, 19:25
Actually, before I forget again. With breastfeeding, the baby passes less stools and has less gas and wet burps than a baby on formula? I think Sinahue mentioned that before, but a confirmation from another mother would be helpful!
they are definatly less gassy, and they don't spit up as much, the stools though I think are about the same volume wise, breastfed babies go more often than formula fed, but I think they go about the same, although breastfed baby poop is easier to clean up and not quite as smelly ;)

I was going to use cloth diapers, but read that all the chemicals and laundry and such make about the same impact on the environment, so I did disposables.;)
Krakozha
08-02-2006, 19:31
they are definatly less gassy, and they don't spit up as much, the stools though I think are about the same volume wise, breastfed babies go more often than formula fed, but I think they go about the same, although breastfed baby poop is easier to clean up and not quite as smelly ;)

I was going to use cloth diapers, but read that all the chemicals and laundry and such make about the same impact on the environment, so I did disposables.;)


Yeah the disposibles are easier to handle, easier to clean up. Very funny story though. I was 16 when my youngest sister was born, and I used to babysit a lot. Well, my mother worked part time, and on Friday she'd have to go to work before I got home from school, so my grandmother used to come in for an hour. Well, one day, I came home from school, and my grandmother asked me to take a look at the baby to make sure she'd put the disposible nappy on properly. So I picked up the baby, who was completely sodden from head to toe, big smile though! So I stripped her, and checked the nappy, thinking it had opened up or something. Unfortunatley, it hadn't, but I did find the problem. Not only was the nappy backwards, it was on inside out! The poor child had been peeing onto waterproof plastic for aver an hour, and it had nowhere to go but straight down her legs! Well my grandmother is STILL laughting over it all, she learned how to change her pretty quickly after that!
Ardchoille
09-02-2006, 01:17
Perhaps a pale shadow of it. :)

Okay, it's a pale shadow -- but I won't have to babysit! ;)

Look, about the pain ... do American hospitals give you pain relief as a gas you breathe in, or do they inject it?

If they give it to you as gas, you can get into a rhythm: breathe gas in just before the pain hits, ride it out totally zonked, breathe in before next pang. Not only does it make you happy, happy, happy -- and you can get all uninhibited and scream into the gas-mask, because, dammit, I'M HAVING A BABY AND I DON"T SEE WHY I SHOULD PRETEND THAT IT DOESN'T HURT! -- but the small amount of concentration you need to find that rhythm and stick to it actually does take the peak off the pain. Screaming a bit seems to help get the right muscles organised, too.

That said, there ain't nothin' like the relief of an epidural, but you may end up with stitches if they do a forceps delivery, and it makes life a bit difficult when you can't really sit down or walk for a week ... or two, or three. (I'm trying not to be too graphic here.)

I've delivered with an epidural, with gas and without anything. Epidural was best for no pain, worst for recovery. Drug-free wasn't intentional, it was just that things suddenly speeded up. The pain was over quickly, but it sure was intense, and it took me longer to connect with the baby afterwards, we were both so whacked. Gas worked out best for me.

In short: you can't decide until it's time to decide. You may not even have the chance to decide. Don't worry about it until you have to.
Krakozha
09-02-2006, 02:09
Okay, it's a pale shadow -- but I won't have to babysit! ;)

Look, about the pain ... do American hospitals give you pain relief as a gas you breathe in, or do they inject it?

If they give it to you as gas, you can get into a rhythm: breathe gas in just before the pain hits, ride it out totally zonked, breathe in before next pang. Not only does it make you happy, happy, happy -- and you can get all uninhibited and scream into the gas-mask, because, dammit, I'M HAVING A BABY AND I DON"T SEE WHY I SHOULD PRETEND THAT IT DOESN'T HURT! -- but the small amount of concentration you need to find that rhythm and stick to it actually does take the peak off the pain. Screaming a bit seems to help get the right muscles organised, too.

That said, there ain't nothin' like the relief of an epidural, but you may end up with stitches if they do a forceps delivery, and it makes life a bit difficult when you can't really sit down or walk for a week ... or two, or three. (I'm trying not to be too graphic here.)

I've delivered with an epidural, with gas and without anything. Epidural was best for no pain, worst for recovery. Drug-free wasn't intentional, it was just that things suddenly speeded up. The pain was over quickly, but it sure was intense, and it took me longer to connect with the baby afterwards, we were both so whacked. Gas worked out best for me.

In short: you can't decide until it's time to decide. You may not even have the chance to decide. Don't worry about it until you have to.

Hey, thanks for the info. To be honest, like I said, pain terrifies me, I don't handle it well, but I know that having an epidural has it's own complications - takes longer, poor timing when pushing, etc, etc, etc. If they could give me a semi epidural - take the worst of the pain away but let me feel when things are happening. I'd like to be able to walk around too, it helps speed things along, and I really don't believe that birthing while lying flat on your back is the best way to go, so no epidural does have it's upsides. Then again, if I'm highly stressed at the time I pop, it'll make things worse if I go au naturelle. But at this moment in time, I have a long time to weigh both sides of those arguements and decide which is best for me...

It's so annoying, not having anything to compare possibe pain level to. I've had gallstones, and that was bad enough, bad enough to warrant a call to 911, some people say that they're worse than childbirth, but I don't want to go in thinking that I got through the gall stones, so giving birth will be a doddle compared....

Sorry, my rant done for the day. I think..... :rolleyes: