NationStates Jolt Archive

Or maybe that's just my interpretation of it. There's this federal homeland security family site (http://www.ready.gov/kids/family/dad.html) that's supposed to be useful for families to help plan for emergencies, and to appeal to kids, they've put together this family of cartoon characters--mountain lions, to be exact. Rex, the dad, Purcilla, the wife, Rory the child (no son--interesting), and Hector the hummingbird friend. I think I've figured out why there's only one child, though.

http://www.ready.gov/kids/_images/illustrations/dad.gif

That's Rex, the Mountain Lion Dad. :D

Way to appeal to a stereotype I thought was beneath you, The Nazz. Perchance, next thread, you'll have fun with minstrels? :rolleyes:

That's an interesting choice of animal. I always read about joggers and other outdoor enthusiasts getting mauled, sometimes to death, in the mountain urban sprawl out West. Not very friendly, or a good way to get a point across, in my opinion.

Way to appeal to a stereotype I thought was beneath you, The Nazz. Perchance, next thread, you'll have fun with minstrels? :rolleyes:
Like it or not Fass, stereotypes exist because on some level, they're based in reality. Getting offended by them doesn't change that.

Like it or not Fass, stereotypes exist because on some level, they're based in reality. Getting offended by them doesn't change that.

And your piss-poor rationalisation doesn't change the nature of your post. "OMFG, it looks GAY! Bwahaha! Let's all laugh at the GAY mountain lion because it's GAY!!!!!".

Like it or not Fass, stereotypes exist because on some level, they're based in reality. Getting offended by them doesn't change that.

Man that is about the most narrowminded thing I have seen in a while. It is a clever excuse for biggotry too. Anyone who judges people by the group is an idiot. People are individually diverse and stereotypes are a form of passive prejudice.

Stereotypes exist because someone didn't like something that and individual did and decided to assume that every member of the group that individual belongs to acts in the same manner without any basis for the assumption.

People who do not take the time to know individuals stereotype and therefore discriminate against people by the group.

Way to appeal to a stereotype I thought was beneath you, The Nazz. Perchance, next thread, you'll have fun with minstrels? :rolleyes:
i personally enjoy using "minstrels" or "merry minstels" as a fairly obvious code word for gay men. it doesn't have all that much cultural baggage, but its still seems kinda amusing to me.

And your piss-poor rationalisation doesn't change the nature of your post. "OMFG, it looks GAY! Bwahaha! Let's all laugh at the GAY mountain lion because it's GAY!!!!!".
You really think that's what I was going for? You never stopped to consider that maybe I was pointing out that the most homophobic government in the civilized world is using gay stereotypes on the page that's ostensibly about preserving homeland security, and by extension, the traditional family, and that that's just a bit odd?

You really think that's what I was going for? You never stopped to consider that maybe I was pointing out that the most homophobic government in the civilized world is using gay stereotypes on the page that's ostensibly about preserving homeland security, and by extension, the traditional family, and that that's just a bit odd?

On the contrary, they aren't the ones using the stereotype. You are. You are the one that started a thread about it "looking gay."

Way to appeal to a stereotype I thought was beneath you, The Nazz. Perchance, next thread, you'll have fun with minstrels? :rolleyes:
Can't be an American, the creature isn't packing a gun.

Can't be an American, the creature isn't packing a gun.

Probably since it isn't listed in the kit. (http://www.ready.gov/kids/_downloads/familylist.pdf)

Can't be an American, the creature isn't packing a gun.
Yeah, it looks like its from Down Under without an Old West hip shootin' Winchester. :p

Probably since it isn't listed in the kit. (http://www.ready.gov/kids/_downloads/familylist.pdf)
Perhaps because they already know that most American adults own one.

Perhaps because they already know that most American adults own one.

Or because the site isn't geared towards adults at all.

Or because the site isn't geared towards adults at all.
My daughter and sons have their own guns, too.

Way to appeal to a stereotype I thought was beneath you, The Nazz. Perchance, next thread, you'll have fun with minstrels? :rolleyes:
Great idea!

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/images/vcvg57.jpg

Dude, laughing at a stereotype doesn't make one hatefull. And the minstrel show image is funny to me because people were just so damn ignorant in the past. At some point we've got to get over our squeamishness and laugh at the dumb racist, sexist and homophobic ideas of the past.

My daughter and sons have their own guns, too.

Sure they do, should they exist.

Sure they do, should they exist.
Do you exist, or are you just my puppet?

Great idea!

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/images/vcvg57.jpg

Dude, laughing at a stereotype doesn't make one hatefull. And the minstrel show image is funny to me because people were just so damn ignorant in the past. At some point we've got to get over our squeamishness and laugh at the dumb racist, sexist and homophobic ideas of the past.

The homophobic idea is not the one of the Government here, but that of The Nazz.

Do you exist, or are you just my puppet?

"Puppet discussions" are not allowed. Had I been your puppet, Fass would have been deleted a long time ago.

"Puppet discussions" are not allowed. Had I been your puppet, Fass would have been deleted a long time ago.
You shouldn't refer to your hypothetical, alternate-universe self in the third person, it makes one of you sound arrogant.
And you should quit thinking so hard about frivolous things. You've got to save some energy for making sandwiches.

The homophobic idea is not the one of the Government here, but that of The Nazz.
You're seriously accusing me of homophobia?

Please people!

The courgar looks gay. It's funny.

You're seriously accusing me of homophobia?

In this thread, yes, I am accusing you of appealing to a homophobic stereotype.

well you know the old cartoon mountain lion snagglepuss always seemed a bit gay, or at least very campy.

Can't be an American, the creature isn't packing a gun.

It's an ironic choice for a mascot of a concerned fatherhood. Mountain lions are solitary animals with no paternal instinct. It should have been a wolf, but Georgie boy used wolves as a symbol of evil.

It's an ironic choice for a mascot of a concerned fatherhood. Mountain lions are solitary animals with no paternal instinct. It should have been a wolf, but Georgie boy used wolves as a symbol of evil.

Wolves just don't have the demenor of cougars. How many times has a wolf went up to a hiker and given them a friendly nip in the kidneys?

You're seriously accusing me of homophobia?
Now you know what "political correctness" feels like Nazz.

This whole thread made my day. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about stereotypes of any kind.

We're definitely living in a world where a stand-up comic will not be permitted to make any jokes at anyone's expense. Probably not worth going to the show.

I just don't see it. I mean.. I guess maybe the scarf and the way he's standing, but I wouldn've thought that, if you hadn't mentioned what you did. And what's the difference in the kid being a girl, or boy? The only thing that popped into my mind of a hidden meaning, was that Hector the hummingbird is the US Gov., but a child (or anyone else probably.. being that I am somewhat paranoid of big brother)isn't going to think that lol. I think they're cute toons.

Are we there yet?

i think this is more on the side of rediculous and stupid than gay. in fact, i don't see anything homosexual about it.

i think this is more on the side of rediculous and stupid than gay. in fact, i don't see anything homosexual about it.
For me: It's the scarf, and the fact that he has femminine eyes.

Can't be an American, the creature isn't packing a gun.
...or denouncing everyone ELSE as "un-patriotic"!
;)

My daughter and sons have their own guns, too.
Are they children?