NationStates Jolt Archive


I'm very conflicted.

Kievan-Prussia
04-02-2006, 17:10
What the hell am I meant to believe in?
Ritlina
04-02-2006, 17:12
Uhh.... What? What Do You Mean As "Believe In"? As In Religion, Or Political Theory? What? But It Really Doesn't Matter Either Way. Believe In What You Want To Believe, And Don't Let Anyone Take That Away From You.
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 17:13
What the hell am I meant to believe in?
Whatever you want.

Unless you want us to tell you.
Which is a bad idea.
Logout. Now!
Kievan-Prussia
04-02-2006, 17:13
Uhh.... What? What Do You Mean As "Believe In"? As In Religion, Or Political Theory? What? But It Really Doesn't Matter Either Way. Believe In What You Want To Believe, And Don't Let Anyone Take That Away From You.

Too late.
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:14
Go Atheist and we'll give you a set of golf clubs.
Go Socialist and we'll give you a humourous mug.

Join both at once and we'll send you a novelty set of billiard balls as well.
Druidville
04-02-2006, 17:14
Start with peace and rationality, they have so few adherants these days...
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:16
What the hell am I meant to believe in?
Sometimes finding a value system in which to place your trust and in which to believe requires a bit of work. I struggled with mine for many years before finally realizing that I was "meant" to build my own. Wise is the man or woman who realizes that belief is a choice, not an inheritance.
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:16
What the hell am I meant to believe in?
Believe in Nihilism.
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:16
Go Atheist and we'll give you a set of golf clubs.
Go Socialist and we'll give you a humourous mug.

Join both at once and we'll send you a novelty set of billiard balls as well.
Also if you go gay, apparently you get a toaster oven.
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 17:17
Sometimes finding a value system in which to place your trust and in which to believe requires a bit of work. I struggled with mine for many years before finally realizing that I was "meant" to build my own. Wise is the man or woman who realizes that belief is a choice, not an inheritance.
Someone's goin' shopping, only to realize that they gotta bake those cookies themselves. :p
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:17
Believe in Nihilism.
Heh! That's like saying, "Believe in alcholoism but don't enjoy alcoholic drinks!" :p
Kievan-Prussia
04-02-2006, 17:18
Start with peace and rationality, they have so few adherants these days...

I tried rationality. Other users spun it around my head and convinced me that I was a Nazi. Then I felt evil, then I tried to be evil, then it wasn't working out for me so now I'm fucked up.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:18
Someone's goin' shopping, only to realize that they gotta bake those cookies themselves. :p
You are not far from true wisdom, Grasshopper! :D
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:18
Also if you go gay, apparently you get a toaster oven.

Frankly it's a bit tacky and it breaks down if you try to do cheese on toast. You'd be much happier with the humourous mug.
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:19
Frankly it's a bit tacky and it breaks down if you try to do cheese on toast. You'd be much happier with the humourous mug.
Last week Fass said it works pretty well for making pizza on a bagel.
Ashmoria
04-02-2006, 17:19
what am i meant to believe in? implies that there is some outside entity that wants you to believe in one thing or another

take control over your own life. you arent MEANT to do anything. do what seems right to YOU. live life to you OWN standards. look for what pleases YOU.

you only get one life. live it as best you can to your own standards.
Ritlina
04-02-2006, 17:20
I tried rationality. Other users spun it around my head and convinced me that I was a Nazi. Then I felt evil, then I tried to be evil, then it wasn't working out for me so now I'm fucked up.
Listen Man, DO NOT Listen To What Others Say About You. Listen To What Your Head And Your Heart Say.
Dogburg II
04-02-2006, 17:21
Believe that Ambrose E Burnside (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Ambrose_Everett_Burnside.jpg) is your spirit guide and personal saviour.
Ashmoria
04-02-2006, 17:22
I tried rationality. Other users spun it around my head and convinced me that I was a Nazi. Then I felt evil, then I tried to be evil, then it wasn't working out for me so now I'm fucked up.
welp theres 2 things you dont have to bother with again. now get busy and work out the rest.

dont expect things to be handed to you, you have to do the work yourself
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:23
I tried rationality. Other users spun it around my head and convinced me that I was a Nazi. Then I felt evil, then I tried to be evil, then it wasn't working out for me so now I'm fucked up.
Then you need to work on your courage, Grasshopper. Do not allow others to decide for you what you believe.
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:25
Last week Fass said it works pretty well for making pizza on a bagel.

Meh; homosexuality, atheism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive you know.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:26
Last week Fass said it works pretty well for making pizza on a bagel.
Anyone who tries to make pizza on a bagle should be shot at dawn! :p
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:28
Listen Man, DO NOT Listen To What Others Say About You. Listen To What Your Head And Your Heart Say.
Huh?? But wouldn't that mean that he shouldn't listen to you either?

"Do not listen to what others tell you, including me." This does not compute! :p
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:30
Meh; homosexuality, atheism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive you know.
Yeah, but I don't need a toaster oven that badly.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:30
Meh; homosexuality, atheism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive you know.
True, BUT ...

"Homosexuality, atheism and socialism" ARE mutually exclusive with "heterosexuality, spirituality and regulated capitalism." :p
Kievan-Prussia
04-02-2006, 17:30
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:31
Anyone who tries to make pizza on a bagle should be shot at dawn! :p
Well, have fun shooting Fass.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:31
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.
Then they should be shot at dawn! [ nods ]
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:32
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.
Try adding logic, reason and critical thinking.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:32
Well, have fun shooting Fass.
Uh ... no. He would interpret that as being some sort of sexual thing! Heh! :D
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:33
Yeah, but I don't need a toaster oven that badly.
LOL! :D
JuNii
04-02-2006, 17:38
I tried rationality. Other users spun it around my head and convinced me that I was a Nazi. Then I felt evil, then I tried to be evil, then it wasn't working out for me so now I'm fucked up.
the problem was, or is, is not what you believed in, but the fact that you were discounting and dimissing what others believe in.

some believe in Religion, others don't
some believe in the government, others don't
some want to instill their belief on others...

the thing is. for something like Morals, you have to find the ones that fit you. and don't worry what morals others are using. Just maintain yourself and by deed, you will pursuade others your convictions on how you live.
The Atlantian islands
04-02-2006, 17:39
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.

I assume you are more right wing than anything right? Well....most people here are left wing and if they think ones ideas are too far to the right, they will simply call you a Nazi...dont read too far into it. Just like if someone on here is really far left, some people will call them commies, but again, I'm sure they dont look to far into it.

Anyway, point is, if your a conservative and you come on a predominatly left forum, dont expect to win any popularity contests with your ideas, but dont go changing your ideas to fit other peoples views either.
JuNii
04-02-2006, 17:40
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.
The problem with common sense, is that it isn't

Common sense says one should look both ways before crossing the street, and to use the designated crossing area.

common sense says poisoning your body with harmful chemicals is not smart

look around. watch how people cross the streets and how many people are smoking?

where does common sense fit when one orders a bacon double cheeseburger, Super Sized fries and a DIET soda?
Mylinia
04-02-2006, 17:41
Common sense does not equalte with Fascism, but false logic does. I recommend a healthy diet of Plato, Aristotle, and Cofucious before trying to live your life according to rationality. Some of it is obviously worng, and you'll see that, and some of it has a little bit of truth to it, and you'll be able to see that. Hopefully you'll learn from it all.
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:41
True, BUT ...

"Homosexuality, atheism and socialism" ARE mutually exclusive with "heterosexuality, spirituality and regulated capitalism." :p

True but does spirituallity offer a free set of golf clubs?

Kudos to the first person to link Landoverbaptist's 'Accept Jesus as your personal saviour and get a free Playstation 2' offer.
JuNii
04-02-2006, 17:42
Also if you go gay, apparently you get a toaster oven.
Wait a minute... I have a Toaster oven.... does that mean...
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:42
Common sense does not equalte with Fascism, but false logic does. I recommend a healthy diet of Plato, Aristotle, and Cofucious before trying to live your life according to rationality. Some of it is obviously worng, and you'll see that, and some of it has a little bit of truth to it, and you'll be able to see that. Hopefully you'll learn from it all.

I found that Plato was a bit vague, he often uses analogy instead of logic.
Ashmoria
04-02-2006, 17:43
I try to run my life around three basic ideas: Liberty, justice and common sense. But if I use the last one, people call me a Nazi.

perhaps you need to listen to WHY they call you a nazi and adjust your common sense accordingly.

if it seems "sensible" to you that massive numbers of people be wiped off the face of the earth for being a certain religion or ethnicity, then you ARE a nazi and might want to think it through a bit more.

if their objections make no sense to you. as in "wanting to go to the college of your choice makes you a nazi" then ignore them.
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:43
Wait a minute... I have a Toaster oven.... does that mean...
Not necessarily. There are other ways to get a toaster oven.
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:44
Not necessarily. There are other ways to get a toaster oven.

You could have told me that two weeks ago.:(
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:45
where does common sense fit when one orders a bacon double cheeseburger, Super Sized fries and a DIET soda?
Hey! I LIKE Diet Pepsi, and I always have it with my Bacon Double-Cheeseburger and Super Sized Fries! :p
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 17:47
Wait a minute... I have a Toaster oven.... does that mean...
Yes. Anyone who owns a toaster oven has to be gay; it's right in the instructions. :D
K Don
04-02-2006, 17:49
[QUOTE=Kievan-Prussia]What the hell am I meant to believe in?

BELIEVE IN MAYBERRY
Drunk commies deleted
04-02-2006, 17:50
Yes. Anyone who owns a toaster oven has to be gay; it's right in the instructions. :D
Wait, my parents had a toaster oven. Holy Crap! I was reared by homosexuals!
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 18:14
Wait, my parents had a toaster oven. Holy Crap! I was reared by homosexuals!
No wonder you turned out so ... um ... interesting! :D
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
04-02-2006, 18:16
Wait, my parents had a toaster oven. Holy Crap! I was reared by homosexuals!
At least all they did was rear you.
Eutrusca
04-02-2006, 18:16
At least all they did was rear you.
Oh, GROAN! LOL! :D
JuNii
04-02-2006, 19:01
so Kievan-Prussia, did you find your answer?
Lunatic Goofballs
04-02-2006, 19:06
What the hell am I meant to believe in?

Believe whatever gives you comfort. Just keep it to yourself.
Keruvalia
04-02-2006, 19:07
What the hell am I meant to believe in?

Yourself.
Kievan-Prussia
05-02-2006, 01:09
so Kievan-Prussia, did you find your answer?

Pretty much. Unfortunately, it puts me in the same boat as Roosevelt and Eisenhower.
JuNii
05-02-2006, 10:44
Pretty much. Unfortunately, it puts me in the same boat as Roosevelt and Eisenhower.
at least you have company... :)
Pantygraigwen
05-02-2006, 10:46
What the hell am I meant to believe in?

Pixies.
The Chinese Republics
05-02-2006, 10:55
What the hell am I meant to believe in?Ask iGod (http://www.titane.ca/igod/main.html). :D
Pantygraigwen
05-02-2006, 10:57
Ask iGod (http://www.titane.ca/igod/main.html). :D

that is the most badly programmed chat-bot i have ever encountered.
The Chinese Republics
05-02-2006, 11:02
that is the most badly programmed chat-bot i have ever encountered.It would've been much worst if it's programmed in java.
The Most Glorious Hack
05-02-2006, 11:19
I believe in swordfish.
Pantygraigwen
05-02-2006, 11:20
I believe in swordfish.

the film where Hally Berry gets her narks out?
The Most Glorious Hack
05-02-2006, 11:35
the film where Hally Berry gets her narks out?
No:

Some people believe in astrology
Others believe in technology
Some people believe in all those "ologies"
But I believe in swordfish
He believes in swordfish

I believe in Happy Days
I believe in Joanie Loves Crotchie
I believe in all that TV crap
And I believe in swordfish
He believes in swordfish

Came up from the ghetto with the help of my stiletto
Every day I hear the people groan:
Why should we buy postage stamps?
We can make our own

We may be doing something wrong
We could be running a little too long
I guess we better end this song
I say I believe in swordfish
He believes in swordfish
Pantygraigwen
05-02-2006, 11:36
No:

Rather Halle Berry's narks than the Dead Milkmen. No offence.
The Most Glorious Hack
05-02-2006, 11:39
Rather Halle Berry's narks than the Dead Milkmen. No offence.No accounting for taste, I suppose.
JuNii
05-02-2006, 12:08
No accounting for taste, I suppose.
Taste? hmmm.... would rather 'eat' Halle Berry than a milkman...

now a milkwoman... :D
Bodies Without Organs
05-02-2006, 12:34
Pixies.

Believing in rock and roll > believing in pixies.

The question is where belief in The Pixies fits into this equation.
Bodies Without Organs
05-02-2006, 12:36
What the hell am I meant to believe in?

Sound like we have another latent philosophy student on our hands here. Obviously we need to crank up the juice on the orbital mind control lasers. Someone stick another shilling in the meter, would you?
SuperQueensland
05-02-2006, 12:44
just find some all-consuming computer game and then you wont have to think about that anymore
Wildwolfden
05-02-2006, 12:48
What the hell am I meant to believe in? in what respect religion ?