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A new era?

Europa alpha
04-02-2006, 14:08
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.
JuNii
04-02-2006, 14:11
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.
I have a feeling it will change when they have bills to pay, a morgage and a family to feed.
Myrmidonisia
04-02-2006, 14:14
I have a feeling it will change when they have bills to pay, a morgage and a family to feed.
Don't put such a damper on his idealism. Without a doubt, one aspect of American society will change forever. My kids are hardly taught anything about the customary measurement units like inches, gallons, and pounds. We undoubtedly slip into that metric morass of meters, kilograms, and liters. That, and we'll all speak Spanish.
JuNii
04-02-2006, 14:17
Don't put such a damper on his idealism. Without a doubt, one aspect of American society will change forever. My kids are hardly taught anything about the customary measurement units like inches, gallons, and pounds. We undoubtedly slip into that metric morass of meters, kilograms, and liters. That, and we'll all speak Spanish.
well... if and when we do adopt the Metric system... they better give alot of warning...

cus I certanly don't wanna go Bungee jumping then...
Alpha Aura
04-02-2006, 14:23
What? Atheists and political extremists (myself, at 21, admittedly being both) hold a massive majority? What world, I dare ask, are you looking at? We may tend to be more vocal, but your everyday youth, it seems to me, is fairly moderate politically (with an expected bias towards the left, though most certainly not too extreme), and just as much so religiously. There is indeed a global trend towards secularization (God is running out of mysteries to hide behind), but there is surely no massive atheist youth majority. Do you know how hard it is to find a non-Christian girl??

I suppose my idea of politics may very well change with age, though I don't suspect I'll be finding God in my lifetime...

And what sort of first post would this be if I didn't have smileys making out? :fluffle:
JuNii
04-02-2006, 14:25
What? Atheists and political extremists (myself, at 21, admittedly being both) hold a massive majority? What world, I dare ask, are you looking at? We may tend to be more vocal, but your everyday youth, it seems to me, is fairly moderate politically (with an expected bias towards the left, though most certainly not too extreme), and just as much so religiously. There is indeed a global trend towards secularization (God is running out of mysteries to hide behind), but there is surely no massive atheist youth majority. Do you know how hard it is to find a non-Christian girl??

I suppose my idea of politics may very well change with age, though I don't suspect I'll be finding God in my lifetime...

And what sort of first post would this be if I didn't have smileys making out? :fluffle:

welcome to NS General AA. may your ideals survive the experience. :D
Europa alpha
04-02-2006, 14:25
What? Atheists and political extremists (myself, at 21, admittedly being both) hold a massive majority? What world, I dare ask, are you looking at? We may tend to be more vocal, but your everyday youth, it seems to me, is fairly moderate politically (with an expected bias towards the left, though most certainly not too extreme), and just as much so religiously. There is indeed a global trend towards secularization (God is running out of mysteries to hide behind), but there is surely no massive atheist youth majority. Do you know how hard it is to find a non-Christian girl??

I suppose my idea of politics may very well change with age, though I don't suspect I'll be finding God in my lifetime...

And what sort of first post would this be if I didn't have smileys making out? :fluffle:

Its easy to find a non-christian. You just shout "GAY RIGHTS" and see who stays behind :D
PS im on about the YOUNGINS 14-18 year old.
Helioterra
04-02-2006, 14:26
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.
I'm lost. What political extremists? In which country? What's wrong with bigger middle-class? Should there be more poor than there is now? Are people in middle-class more pro-war than others? Are EU-supporters more pro-war?
Europa alpha
04-02-2006, 14:29
I'm lost. What political extremists? In which country? What's wrong with bigger middle-class? Should there be more poor than there is now? Are people in middle-class more pro-war than others? Are EU-supporters more pro-war?

Noooo
i mean people are getting richer and more educated, and at the risk of sounding a biggot, with education comes tolerance and left-wing ideals :)
The U.K btw
Eternal Green Rain
04-02-2006, 14:34
Noooo
i mean people are getting richer and more educated, and at the risk of sounding a biggot, with education comes tolerance and left-wing ideals :)
The U.K btw
Oh no,
we're doomed to be tolerent and idealistic.
What kind of future will that bring?
sounds good to me.
Alpha Aura
04-02-2006, 14:38
Ah, well, if we're talking about the UK, I really don't have an accurate idea of the religious and political spectrum there. Oh, what folly, to be born an American...
Kamsaki
04-02-2006, 14:44
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
You'll see...
The Atlantian islands
04-02-2006, 15:29
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.

Your wrong. Atheists dont hold a massive majority in any country.
Politicals extremists dont hold a majority in any country, let alone a BIG majority.
In most countries, the middle class is getting smaller.
And as for people becoming ore friendly towards the EU, well I think this is your own personal opinion.
I would like to see where the hell you get your facts from?
The Atlantian islands
04-02-2006, 15:31
Noooo
i mean people are getting richer and more educated, and at the risk of sounding a biggot, with education comes tolerance and left-wing ideals :)
The U.K btw

Thats not true at all. In America, the most rich and educated are usually republicans. While most of the left wing voters are poor uneducated minorities that only vote left because their favorite rappers tell them to do so. I beleive P.Diddy used the phrase, Vote or Die...:rolleyes:

Again, I dont know where you are getting your facts.
Kamsaki
04-02-2006, 15:35
Thats not true at all. In America, the most rich and educated are usually republicans. While most of the left wing voters are poor uneducated minorities that only vote left because their favorite rappers tell them to do so. I beleive P.Diddy used the phrase, Vote or Die...:rolleyes:

Again, I dont know where you are getting your facts.
In Britain, Left-leaners are almost always middle-class and reasonably well off, while the more nationalistic are typically those in the unskilled jobs market.
Colin World
04-02-2006, 15:55
The Wigro population is just a fad. Once they realize that they have tyo get off their lazy asses to realize they can't live by sitting around getting their parents to do everything for them, they'll either kill each other off, or go to jail. Then, society can continue.
The Atlantian islands
04-02-2006, 17:01
In Britain, Left-leaners are almost always middle-class and reasonably well off, while the more nationalistic are typically those in the unskilled jobs market.

Well, you could be right, but then if this thread only applies to England I think he should have put IN ENGLAND.....etc. Because it certianly is not like this in other places in the world.
Fass
04-02-2006, 17:12
Well, you could be right, but then if this thread only applies to England I think he should have put IN ENGLAND.....etc. Because it certianly is not like this in other places in the world.

Doesn't it suck when people like him don't limit themselves to a country? I mean, US posters are so good at not assuming everything to be about the US, kind of like you just did.
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 17:15
Doesn't it suck when people like him don't limit themselves to a country? I mean, US posters are so good at not assuming everything to be about the US, kind of like you just did.
The whole talk about a middle class being bigger and the EU kinda gave me the red flag. Point?
Jedebo
04-02-2006, 17:21
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.

And because there are more atheists there will be more war? That seems very onlogical to me because a lot af wars have something to do with religion.

Oh yeah it's also really dangerous to be EU friendly. Europeans fight all the time, or...am I so wrong or are it the Americans that bomb Irak, Iran and Afghanistan? :rolleyes:
Randomlittleisland
04-02-2006, 17:23
In the UK it's quite hard to find out people's religous beliefs anyway unless you know them very well.
The Atlantian islands
04-02-2006, 17:36
Doesn't it suck when people like him don't limit themselves to a country? I mean, US posters are so good at not assuming everything to be about the US, kind of like you just did.

Yeah...what can I say. We dont think the world revolves around us at all. :rolleyes: :p
Tomasalia
04-02-2006, 19:04
Well, you could be right, but then if this thread only applies to England I think he should have put IN ENGLAND.....etc. Because it certianly is not like this in other places in the world.
He later clarified that he meant the UK. So read the thread, and improve your geography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK
Vetalia
04-02-2006, 19:12
Of course we're entering a new era...the rapid development of technology in international communications and the implementation of international economic policy will lead to the creation of a true "one-world" economy at some point in the future. Not to mention this diffusion of ideas will lead to greater freedoms worldwide; the difficulty that China has in censoring the Internet, even at this comparatively primitive step in its development, is proof of the trend towards democratization and freedom that technology is bringing us.

The key now is to resist the dead ideas of protectionism and isolationism and embrace a new internationalist approach to foreign and economic affairs. We all stand to benefit from this change, as long as we pursue it with full commitment.
Eternal Green Rain
04-02-2006, 19:35
In Britain, Left-leaners are almost always middle-class and reasonably well off, while the more nationalistic are typically those in the unskilled jobs market.
I think you're stereotyping just a bit there.
I'm in the UK and don't see it the way you do which would suggest a fairly broad spread of beliefs here for us both to be right.
No?
Eternal Green Rain
04-02-2006, 19:40
Of course we're entering a new era...the rapid development of technology in international communications and the implementation of international economic policy will lead to the creation of a true "one-world" economy at some point in the future. Not to mention this diffusion of ideas will lead to greater freedoms worldwide; the difficulty that China has in censoring the Internet, even at this comparatively primitive step in its development, is proof of the trend towards democratization and freedom that technology is bringing us.

The key now is to resist the dead ideas of protectionism and isolationism and embrace a new internationalist approach to foreign and economic affairs. We all stand to benefit from this change, as long as we pursue it with full commitment.
WOW, are you sure you really are in the US ;)
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 19:51
WOW, are you sure you really are in the US?
American sterotypes, like we're dumb or something.... ;)
Eternal Green Rain
04-02-2006, 20:07
American sterotypes, like we're dumb or something.... ;)
Well I asked for that didn't I.
Sorry.
But I'm still impressed.

So there.

:D
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 20:12
But I'm still impressed.
Damn straight you are! :p

Off topic: I just realized I've gotten peanut butter all over the keyboard...oppsan....
Novoga
04-02-2006, 20:15
As much as I would love a world full of moral atheists who believe in science not religion, it is not going to happen soon.

I would also love to think that if it did happen, all nations would donate half of their defence budget on a Global Space Initiative for the manned and unmanned exploration of Space, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Why worry about the future? The world ends in 2012.
Vetalia
04-02-2006, 20:19
Well I asked for that didn't I.
Sorry.
But I'm still impressed.

So there.

:D

Thanks. :cool:

I'm one of an increasing number of people who have realized that the future is international; of course, this sentiment is more common in places where there is a lot of international commerce...and Cleveland is definitely a major port for foreign goods. Hopefully, this sentiment will take hold on a national level in the next few years, but it will be tough...
Novoga
04-02-2006, 20:33
Thanks. :cool:

I'm one of an increasing number of people who have realized that the future is international; of course, this sentiment is more common in places where there is a lot of international commerce...and Cleveland is definitely a major port for foreign goods. Hopefully, this sentiment will take hold on a national level in the next few years, but it will be tough...

Cleveland rocks!

I just stole that from the once great Drew Carey Show. Although maybe that was from the bad seasons?
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 20:36
I'm one of an increasing number of people who have realized that the future is international; of course, this sentiment is more common in places where there is a lot of international commerce...and Cleveland is definitely a major port for foreign goods. Hopefully, this sentiment will take hold on a national level in the next few years, but it will be tough...
Well, its in Michigan.
Vetalia
04-02-2006, 20:39
Cleveland rocks!
I just stole that from the once great Drew Carey Show. Although maybe that was from the bad seasons?

Well, they used it at the end of the opening song, so it was on both the good and bad seasons. I assume it was in reference to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.;)

Cleveland is really a model for the Rust Belt in general; we've made ourselves more competitive and have attracted new industries like biotech, IT, and telecoms while steadily rebuilding our manufacturing sector. We're also one of the the most connected cities in the US in terms of municipal Internet infrastructure and have an incredible healthcare system as well.
That's how the US will remain competitive.

Of course, "Mistake on the Lake" is in reference to the waterfront area, although all of the redevelopment going on makes the moniker quite inaccurate now.
Novoga
04-02-2006, 20:39
Well, its in Michigan.

You mean Ohio?
Kzord
04-02-2006, 21:07
Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

On the internet maybe. Not in the real world.
Droskianishk
04-02-2006, 21:33
As i look around at the youngin's i see a pattern emerging.

Atheists hold a massive majority
Political Extemeists hold a majority, a BIG majority
The middle-class seems to actual be bigger than the others :confused:
And people are becomming more and more E.U friendly.

My question is...
Will this die down when they reach adulthood,
Or will this signal a new era!
...one with more Wars probobly.


Your from europe yes? Do not assume to speak for the rest of the world, Europe is not a majority. Would you say South America is atheist? Africa? The Middle East? The US? Asia? I can only speak for the US but only 12% or so in the US proclaim themselves as atheist, the other 88% proclaim themselves to be "religious" (80% or so Christian). Much of the rest of the world is far more religious then the US, so I doubt an atheist majority at all.

The middle class has always been large and always held a great deal of power in Royalist days and in the emergence of democratic rule.

EU friendly because they are being raised with the EU in existence, it is becoming normal.

Radical majority? Perhaps, but most of them will probably mellow out when they move out and get jobs and start paying taxes (though that could very well be wrong).

This isn't anymore of a new era then any other, people always think that a new horrible era is dawning, when that is simply untrue. That belief shows that the world really hasn't changed all that much, and that there is no "new era".