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Im not an expert upon other countries, but It seems to me Britain is the most racially acceptive of the lot. Im sure there will be plenty of people disagreeing with me, but when I saw the news today about those cartoons (anti-islam) being printed everywhere in europe except Britain, I began to think along these lines.

And the New-Orleans tragedy, when supposedly the American's were not as quick to help the black people as they would to help white people.

And loads of other incidents.

So what you think?

I don't know about Britain (or very many countries for that matter), but to my understanding Canada isn't doing half bad about being racially accepting.

Actually I can Imagine that.

Actually, they were shown on BBC and Channel 4 News, but I missed it.

I haven't een them in Ireland either. But yes, I believe someone on this forum once broke down the figures and found that Britian was more diverse per capita than the United States.

Im not an expert upon other countries, but It seems to me Britain is the most racially acceptive of the lot. Im sure there will be plenty of people disagreeing with me, but when I saw the news today about those cartoons (anti-islam) being printed everywhere in europe except Britain, I began to think along these lines.

And the New-Orleans tragedy, when supposedly the American's were not as quick to help the black people as they would to help white people.

And loads of other incidents.

So what you think?
Correction, they were not as quick to help POOR people as they would to help RICH people. It's more about class than race in the USA.

And the New-Orleans tragedy, when supposedly the American's were not as quick to help the black people as they would to help white people.

And loads of other incidents.

Are you KIDDING me??? The Mayor of New Orleans said they didn't need help! Friggin not helping black people. You do realize that New Orleans is not exclusively made up of black people, right? Then, as they were getting their butts kicked, and it got worse, they didn't report to anyone. Follow that up with New Orleans LYING about the size of their police force, and it's easy to see why what happened, happened.

I think "acceptance" is a tough thing to quantify, and I think that you can find incidences of bigotry everywhere - including in Britain. And I don't see that a single instance of self-censorship (or assertions of racially-motivated incompetence with respect to Katrina) is a very good barometer of a trend.


Now, if acceptance is defined in the form of willingness to let people become citizens, then Canada wins as there are more immigrants gaining citizenship per capita in Canada than in any other country, with the US ranked 8th and the UK 13th according to the most recent OECD data.


The social issues around how new citizens are treated by society is, however, impossible to rank. We all have our national instances of crosses to bear in this regard sometimes.

Correction, they were not as quick to help POOR people as they would to help RICH people. It's more about class than race in the USA.

New Orleans is a MAJOR city. If they needed help, help would have been rushed there. However, when you hear "We don't need help!" you believe it. Turns out the mayor was busy trying to hide his corruption.

I don't know about us Canadians being the most accepting. Have you seen what we did to the natives canadians? Pretty much fucked up their lives. We're still trying to straighten that out.

Correction, they were not as quick to help POOR people as they would to help RICH people. It's more about class than race in the USA.

It's more about class in Britain as well. The people who are most disliked are the so-called "chavs", who are white badly educated people with no civilised manners.

Also, the government's attempt to promote "multiculturalism" seems to be backfiring.

And the New-Orleans tragedy, when supposedly the American's were not as quick to help the black people as they would to help white people.

Im not an expert upon other countries Exactly, if you state that you dont know about other countries, why talk about what you dont know? I live in South Florida and we have had way more hurricanes that New Orleans has, but we know how to handle our shit, and pulled together just fine, without all this wish wash about the Federal Government. New Orleans is a corrupt, welfare craving city and its no wonder they couldnt handle themselves. It obviously has nothing to do with other races in general as we have plenty of blacks in South Florida and like I said before, we did just fine.

Also, in case you didnt know, when help did come for those stranded, they shot at their rescuers...ie, policemen. Anyone who shoots at our policemen deserves to be left to die, thats pathetic.

And loads of other incidents.

Oh, yeah? Please, name some....Would one of those incidents be the black riots in L.A. when they were mad because a CRIMINAL got convicted, so they car jacked and beat up/killed anyone who was white, all while burning their own city (Watts) to the ground? What could those "loads of other incidents" be, I wonder?

Britain is one of the most racially accepting countries in the world. Thats why in 50 years it will become anything but British(itll be a black,islamic,asian melting pot)

Yes us brits are the most racially accepting.
In fact we are the BEST at racially accepting, all the other countries are crap compared to OUR tolerance! ;p

I don't know if it is the most racially accepeting country, but I think we(Britain) are getting better, the 'Neds have almost completely disappeared, and I havn't heard of any racially motivated attacks for a long time.

But on the other hand we still have heavily culturaly divided areas and rich poor divides. For instance Luton (voted the cr*ppest city in Britian..or so i read) also has one of the highest coloured communities, whereas where I live (something like the 10th richest town in England) is almost exclusivly white and has roughly 30,000 people living in it. So there are still divides if not actual racial hatred.

all the other countries are crap compared to OUR tolerance! ;p

was that deliberatly ironic?

Ok relax some of you guys, you really got stressed over nothing. Especially you The Atlantian islands, please note the supposedly in my sentence. I dont actually believe that the Americans delayed help (if they did delay help) over race, but I can understand why some people think that. You have to be more open minded man.

was that deliberatly ironic?

undoubtfully

undoubtfully

Yeeh.
I think us Brits are Quite Tolerant.
The Lefties and Centrists i mean.
Anyone further right than Lib-Dems needs to be watched with suspiscion...

Ok relax some of you guys, you really got stressed over nothing. Especially you The Atlantian islands, please note the supposedly in my sentence. I dont actually believe that the Americans delayed help (if they did delay help) over race, but I can understand why some people think that. You have to be more open minded man.

I'm not open minded to stupid ideas. :p

Anyway my point is that all I heard for like months after Katrina is that America hates black peoples...from (liberal) Americans too, not just Euros. That city was a piece of shit, and its their fault what happend to them. You know why the leeves broke, because they were sent money by the federal government to update them to better leeves, but the corrupt government there pocketed the money instead.

Anyone who thinks Britain is racially tolerant has never met my brother and his mates :(

At my college I can see it, we have poles (Crewe has become major immigration spot for polish people), bangladeshis (Totally mispelt), Indians, Pakistanis, Chinease. But everywhere I go I meet a undercurrent of tension that I fear will explode one day soon :(

Anyone who thinks Britain is racially tolerant has never met my brother and his mates :(

At my college I can see it, we have poles (Crewe has become major immigration spot for polish people), bangladeshis (Totally mispelt), Indians, Pakistanis, Chinease. But everywhere I go I meet a undercurrent of tension that I fear will explode one day soon :(

Good. Let the correct reactions begin.

Good. Let the correct reactions begin.Geh weg. "Troll" in einen anderen Ort.

Good. Let the correct reactions begin.

I see somebody has totally given up on multiculturalism, just a guess? :p

Everyone faces different experiences, so I doubt there is going to be any overall agreement (I never expected one, seeing as this is NS after all: Find me one debate with a decisive conclusion. Just one).

At my school, there is no racial tension. None. And there are plenty of asian, black, chinese everyone. But thats me.

Everyone faces different experiences, so I doubt there is going to be any overall agreement (I never expected one, seeing as this is NS after all: Find me one debate with a decisive conclusion. Just one).

At my school, there is no racial tension. None. And there are plenty of asian, black, chinese everyone. But thats me.

At my school theres tons. This is how it breaks down, in a nutshell.

Blacks are seclusive "ghetto" wanna be thugs that try to act all hard and basically fail all their classes.

Hispanic kids are all seclusive soccer or baseball players that generally dont hang out with anyone other than their spanish teammates.

Asians are seclusive little number crunchers that take the hardest classes, but dont talk to anyone while they are doing it.

Arabs try to act all "cool" and "ghetto" to fit in with the "cool" and "ghetto" blacks. Needless to say it doesnt work.

Meanwhile Whites are sort of thrown into the whole thing and are either, stoners, nerds, jocks, or the eclectic group.

Crazy, huh?

Hell we have all those groups, and ok they might not mingle much but there is no racial hatred against any one group......

Im not an expert upon other countries, but It seems to me Britain is the most racially acceptive of the lot. Im sure there will be plenty of people disagreeing with me, but when I saw the news today about those cartoons (anti-islam) being printed everywhere in europe except Britain, I began to think along these lines.

And the New-Orleans tragedy, when supposedly the American's were not as quick to help the black people as they would to help white people.

And loads of other incidents.

So what you think?

Hang on a minute, there's a brittain? and I hear talk of a United Kingdom too?

Really the legacy of New Labour is that it has been "too" accepting. Our government has focussed so so much on being politically correct that it has destroyed any form of patriotism. So yes, I would say that England, Wales and Scotland are very accepting, but it's thanks to this obsessive political correctness and a blind fear that being in any way patriotic to Britain and the United Kingdom may offend people of other religions within the country that we have lost a sense of what makes Brittain Brittain.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be accepting, I think it's a wonderfull thing that we are. I just think we should have maintained our traditions at the same time (being proud of our monarchy, celebrating our saints days and so on) since those are a massive part of the spirit of Brittain. We shouldn't cut back on our society just to make it less offensive for those of a different society. If they want to live here then they need to join in and be part of our society rather than create seperate communities cut off from the rest of the country. While we are very accepting there is still a racial divide.

Assuming you mean ethnically accepting, I certainly see your point. Perhaps it is partly because of the vast British Empire and what is now the Commonwealth. And the fact that Britain has been overall stable since 1066.