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www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/02/turkish.movie.ap/index.html

From AP/CNN:
In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.
They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine-gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison -- where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

Thoughts?

[Sorry if a repost, I couldn't find this subject on the boards...]

Sounds like Kill Bill 3 or ridiculous propaganda. Either way I'd watch it.

Neat! Is there a gang rape scene in which soldiers infected with AIDS, Herpes and other STDs violate and humiliate the bride?

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

So, umm, get over it.

Sounds like a lame-ass movie trying to cash in on shock value and controversy. Sort of like how people realized The Satanic Verses were crap once they stopped chanting the word "Fatwa" over and over.

This could be the next Cannibal Holocaust! :)

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

So, umm, get over it.
No, I don't think I'll get over it. I think I'll abandon my commitment to free speech and lead a mob of armed thugs. We'll break into the Turkish embassy and hold the people there hostage while demanding a formal appology from Turkey and from everyone associated with the film. I might even call for the murder of everyone involved in the film.

No, I don't think I'll get over it. I think I'll abandon my commitment to free speech and lead a mob of armed thugs. We'll break into the Turkish embassy and hold the people there hostage while demanding a formal appology from Turkey and from everyone associated with the film. I might even call for the murder of everyone involved in the film.
But we did that last night!

But we did that last night!
Ok, well let's just phone in bomb threats and death threats.

No, I don't think I'll get over it. I think I'll abandon my commitment to free speech and lead a mob of armed thugs. We'll break into the Turkish embassy and hold the people there hostage while demanding a formal appology from Turkey and from everyone associated with the film. I might even call for the murder of everyone involved in the film.Don't forget to kill everyone who saw the film, saw the adverts for the film, and anyone who talked about the film, even those who posts on the same thread where the films been mentioned.

The story mentions the Pew Global Attitudes survey which is pretty interesting reading. Looks like the US think everyone hates them while the Canadians think other people like them.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=247

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

So, umm, get over it.

What films have you been watching? I haven't seen any "knight-in-shining-armor" depictions of the U.S. military since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Hollywood is very anti-war, and doesn't portray soldiers in the best light anymore.

What films have you been watching? I haven't seen any "knight-in-shining-armor" depictions of the U.S. military since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Hollywood is very anti-war, and doesn't portray soldiers in the best light anymore.
Come on, Platoon portrayed the US soldiers as being the most caring and compassionate of people, Apocalypse now showed Americans as sweet, pacifist humanitarians, and Full Metal Jacket's bathroom murder/suicide scene showed just how strong of a grip on sanity the average US marine has.

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

So, umm, get over it.

Or we could declare an International Day of Outrage.

Or we could declare an International Day of Outrage.
How about an international week of beating on Gary Busey? Not only is that guy a freaking weirdo, but he acts the part of a homicidal Jewish surgeon that harvests spare organs from Abu Graib prisoners in this movie.

How about an international week of beating on Gary Busey? Not only is that guy a freaking weirdo, but he acts the part of a homicidal Jewish surgeon that harvests spare organs from Abu Graib prisoners in this movie.

That's not fair. Gary Busey needs the work.

That's not fair. Gary Busey needs the work.
Come on, he made a fortune with the "Left Behind" movies and the Comedy Central show "I'm with Busey".

What films have you been watching? I haven't seen any "knight-in-shining-armor" depictions of the U.S. military since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Hollywood is very anti-war, and doesn't portray soldiers in the best light anymore.

*cough* RAMBO *cough*

*cough* RAMBO *cough*

Or a more contempory example

*cough*We Were Soldiers*Cough*

*cough* RAMBO *cough*

Rambo III- 1988.
Berlin Wall- 1989.

Suck on that.

As I said, since the end of the cold war, Hollywood has not been in love with the American military. And DcD has mentioned some Cold War era movies which do not paint a very good light on the military either.

Or a more contempory example

*cough*We Were Soldiers*Cough*
That didn't really show the US soldiers as morally superior to the Vietnamese troops. It only showed the US solders' as complete human beings with families and such. In fact, it did a pretty good job of showing the Vietnamese troops as morally equal to the Americans.

Rambo III- 1988.
Berlin Wall- 1989.

Suck on that.

As I said, since the end of the cold war, Hollywood has not been in love with the American military. And DcD has mentioned some Cold War era movies which do not paint a very good light on the military either.

Rambo IV: 2006

Suck on that.

Rambo IV: 2006


Never heard of it.

Rambo IV: 2006

Suck on that.
They're making another Rambo? What's he going to do, rescue people in a nursing home from a cruel communist nurse?

That didn't really show the US soldiers as morally superior to the Vietnamese troops. It only showed the US solders' as complete human beings with families and such. In fact, it did a pretty good job of showing the Vietnamese troops as morally equal to the Americans.

As far as I can remember, it only appeared to pay lip service to that view.

But I was drunk when I saw it, and it was a couple of years ago.

Thoughts?
I think it's terrible.

In the West, that'd be a cheap B-Movie.

I think it's terrible.

In the West, that'd be a cheap B-Movie.

... with a cult following

www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/02/turkish.movie.ap/index.html

From AP/CNN:
In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.
They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine-gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison -- where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

Thoughts?

[Sorry if a repost, I couldn't find this subject on the boards...]

cf. U-571

I can guess it's a schlock film with no real writing in it that relies on the image of United States military atrocities as an attention-grabber.

Basically it's a war movie made by Uwe Toilet Boll.

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

Hmm.. the only time I will ever agree with Fass. *retch*

It's sort of like most films from the US depict the US military as angelic good guys who only have the best interests of goodness at heart, and the people they fight are depicted as so thoroughly evil, they're the spawn of Satan.

So, umm, get over it.

Yeah like Platoon, Apocolypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, etc, etc. What films are you watching?

Rambo III- 1988.
Berlin Wall- 1989.

Suck on that.

As I said, since the end of the cold war, Hollywood has not been in love with the American military. And DcD has mentioned some Cold War era movies which do not paint a very good light on the military either.


Saving Private Ryan?

or We Were Soldiers

Jarhead didn't demonize the US military either.

Oh and let us not forget Black Hawk Down.

cf. U-571
Yeah, but U-571 was a shitty movie, not worth watching ever.

This movie on the other hand is the most expensive Turkish movie ever.

I saw it at the dollar theater, and left halfway into the movie. I couldn't decide whether it was the movie itself that annoyed me, or the guy sitting in front of me saying *gruff voice* "That's the way it was, that's the way it was."

Its sounds highly inaccurate as the US tends to bomb innocent people rather than shoot them

OK, so we have Hollywood movies that demonize the military, some that praise the military, and some that strive to be more centrist. Sounds like we've got a pretty fair and balanced attitude toward the military by Hollywood.

They shoot up a wedding? Could they get anymore cliché?

They shoot up a wedding? Could they get anymore cliché?
Yeah. I'd have gone with a pediatric clinic or a school. That way more little kids get shot up. Audiences love seeing little kids getting shot.

It sounds as accurate as any movie made in Hollywood. So not bothered.

It sounds as accurate as any movie made in Hollywood. So not bothered.

I only wish I could have invested in it. It's bound to be a huge sucess. It's getting free advertising already.

It's bound to be a huge sucess.

True.

Almost every student will own a copy.

It'll be Betty Blue all over again

www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/02/turkish.movie.ap/index.html

From AP/CNN:
In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.
They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine-gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison -- where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

Thoughts?

[Sorry if a repost, I couldn't find this subject on the boards...]


this does sound like tarrantino has something to do with this.

i would see it though.

They shoot up a wedding? Could they get anymore cliché?

I like how they used a staple of American Westerns in their anti-US movie.

Ahhh...

time for some bumpage.

I just thought it was funny. I actually laughed when I read the description.

First, American soldiers randomly kill dozens at a wedding! The survivors are taken to Abu Graib! Even worse, they're organs are removed by a Jewish doctor!
He then sells their organs to rich people in the west!

I mean, it demonizes everything these people hate (American soldiers, jews). I'm surprised this kind of film hasn't been made before.

Yeah. I'd have gone with a pediatric clinic or a school. That way more little kids get shot up. Audiences love seeing little kids getting shot.

"Michael Jackson was quoted as saying, 'the film was a heartbreaking tragedy that should inspire us all to be more humane to each other.'"

Its a Turkish version of Saving Private Ryan(which was propaganda as well)

Saving Private Ryan(which was propaganda as well)
How so?

Come on, Platoon portrayed the US soldiers as being the most caring and compassionate of people, Apocalypse now showed Americans as sweet, pacifist humanitarians, and Full Metal Jacket's bathroom murder/suicide scene showed just how strong of a grip on sanity the average US marine has.
Windtalkers comes to mind and they didn't do what they should have done with Three Kings (the torturer-guy did have a point, but in the end they just made him a savage).

They shoot up a wedding? Could they get anymore cliché?

How about taking premature babies out of incubators, dropping them on the cold hard ground and then looting the precious medical equipment... oh hang on, that sounds vaguely familiar from somewhere...

How so?

Am I right in saying that the only allies given screen time in Saving Private Ryan are Americans, and that the only real part for a German character is one who cannot be trusted?

It's a triple threat: it demonizes Christians, Jews, and Americans. Why on Earth didn't we think of this before? American companies could make a fortune making films about this shit and selling it to them; I'm waiting for The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion/Industrial Society and its Future double feature myself.

I definitely want to see this, it sounds as funny as hell. I always love a no-brain action film and it would make an amusing change to see the US army protrayed like the SS. And a Jewish doctor stealing the organs of captured civillians - I love it! I hope they go really overboard with both anti-semitic sterotypes and gore!

Am I right in saying that the only allies given screen time in Saving Private Ryan are Americans, and that the only real part for a German character is one who cannot be trusted?
And when they do show the other allies there incompetant or have ridiculous orders which jeopardise their mission (Band of Brothers - British at holland). The US doesn't seem to realise that the eastern front destroyed the Germans in WW2.

Come on, Platoon portrayed the US soldiers as being the most caring and compassionate of people, Apocalypse now showed Americans as sweet, pacifist humanitarians, and Full Metal Jacket's bathroom murder/suicide scene showed just how strong of a grip on sanity the average US marine has.

what about "Black Hawk Down" which showed brave US soldiers in a misguided mission surrounded by lots of (incredibly racistly portrayed) screaming shouting black people?

what about "Black Hawk Down" which showed brave US soldiers in a misguided mission surrounded by lots of (incredibly racistly portrayed) screaming shouting black people?
And it has become a staple of Christmas / New Year television, just like Zulu. Everyone gather around and sing Jerusalem. :rolleyes: