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Is this true ?

Beer and Guns
02-02-2006, 15:19
Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information..........

It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie ans! wered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in
Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.



This is from one of those endless chain E- mails that are always being passed around . I seem to remember the " Ollie " thing but not the Atta being arrested for bombing.
Anyone know for sure ?
BogMarsh
02-02-2006, 15:20
This is from one of those endless chain E- mails that are always being passed around . I seem to remember the " Ollie " thing but not the Atta being arrested for bombing.
Anyone know for sure ?

I don't BUY it! He would have had to be, say, 12 years old in 1986?
Fass
02-02-2006, 15:21
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

One search on Snopes for "Oliver North" is all it took. Just one. :rolleyes:

It also links to the false story about Atta. (http://www.snopes.com/rumors/atta.asp)
Valdania
02-02-2006, 15:25
Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta was the bus bomber is 1986; Mohammed Atta of the 9/11 attacks is/was not the same person.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:27
"Is this true?'

Snopes says no: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:31
I did find this quote from LTC. North on Snopes interesting:

"I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED)."
Beer and Guns
02-02-2006, 15:50
Thanks for the quick response ...my bullshit detector was singing an aria..but I lost snopes when I got my new computer..it WAS in my favorites...I knew I could count on you guys ..:D I even have my snopes back thanks to the links...makes you wonder why so many people are convinced that Saddan Hussein was involved in 9-11......:rolleyes:


I added a line at the end of the E-mail that says "this is bullshit " and sent it on into the midgetsphere ..or wherever spam travels..along with the snopes link..:D
Unified Home
02-02-2006, 15:59
Unfortunately the CIA have know about and in fact had dealings with Bin Laden since the Soviet Campaign in Afghanistan in the 1980's. They supplied Stinger Missiles to shoot down Hinds (Mi-24's) and gave further funding.

In the first Gulf war Bin Laden (Not sure if in person) asked a member of the Saudi Royal Family if he could launch a "Jihad" against Saddam with his Fighters he trained in Afghanistan. When the US got Involved Bin Laden took it as a "deep Insult" that the "Infidels" would fight a Muslim nation instead of his fighters who had trained to fight a "Jihad".

After the war Bin Ladens Goals were to Remove all Westerners from all of Arabia and Topple the Saudi Royal Family. After these announcements Western Intelligence lost Contact with him deep in the Mountains of Afghanistan.
BogMarsh
02-02-2006, 16:00
Ah... thank you all for debunking the bull.
Deballing the bull?
Anyway, thank you for getting ryth of a silly urban myth.
Good Lifes
02-02-2006, 18:01
The part of the hearings I remember is Ollie commited TREASON at the direction of the president. They sold arms to the enemy and then used the money to fund a group that congress specifically said not to fund. In the Constitution, Congress is specifically given the power to spend money. What could be more treasonous? The thing that saved them was everyone in power realized that Reagan was at the end of his term and that his mind was going. When Reagan was put on a witness stand, all he could say was "I don't remember". They felt it was best for the country just to let his term expire.

What is really amazing is Ollie is making millions as a hero of "Patriotic" Americans.