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Do like your life?

Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:24
Well ? I love mine and I am living it to the full

Age 37 'Old enough to know better young enough to learn'

Sex 'Yes please' Male

Eyes Brown 'Short Sighted' wear eye wear

Hair Brown 'no grey as yet'

Star Sign Pisces 'Filly Wishes'

Chinese Zodiac Sign Monkey 'nuts'

Status Married 'poor wife'

Other Information I have a disability called Muscular Dystrophy I have the Becker type and I am a full time electric wheelchair user. I was diognosed in 1977 age 9. I went into an electric wheelchair at age 15. I did a B.A. Hons Fine Art Degree at Staffordshire University from 1991 to 94 and got a 2.1. I have been married to Sheil since the 6th of March 2000 also my Birthday.
Legless Pirates
02-02-2006, 13:26
I luuuurve mine

me -> :fluffle: <- my life
Cabra West
02-02-2006, 13:26
No.
BackwoodsSquatches
02-02-2006, 13:27
Well ? I love mine and I am living it to the full


"Theres no normal life,Wyatt, theres just life."
Doc Holiday-"Tombstone".
Newtsburg
02-02-2006, 13:28
Mine fluctuates bewtween wanting to kill myself, and "could be better." I guess I'd be Bi-polar, but my mania is less than a mania, and more of a "lessor state of depression."
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:28
"Theres no normal life,Wyatt, theres just life."
Doc Holiday-"Tombstone".
cool quote thank you
Von Witzleben
02-02-2006, 13:29
It has it's moments.
Laenis
02-02-2006, 13:29
Most of the time I love my life, but occasionally I get a bit down in the dumps. Still, happens to everyone right?

So, to balance it out, I put that my life is great.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-02-2006, 13:30
Generally speaking, it's excellent. Was a bit shit last weekendish, but even that wasn't terrible.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:30
Most of the time I love my life, but occasionally I get a bit down in the dumps. Still, happens to everyone right?

So, to balance it out, I put that my life is great.


Still, happens to everyone right? yes even me
Newtsburg
02-02-2006, 13:31
No.

See someone.
Kilobugya
02-02-2006, 13:32
Well, my life could be better since I'm single (and feeling lonely sometimes... :/), but else, I'm fine with it. I know I'm among the privilegied few not worried with money, I do a job I like (software developper), I'm in good terms with my family, I've some dear friends.

And yeah, I'm pissed of with the state of the world, and sometimes I want to cry when I think about the misery, suffering, wars, ... but struggling against the neoliberal order make it much easier for me :)
Legless Pirates
02-02-2006, 13:37
Saw, and silently seconded.
I think Newtburg meant like in dating a guy. Or girl..... whichever you feel like at that moment :D
Cabra West
02-02-2006, 13:40
I think Newtburg meant like in dating a guy. Or girl..... whichever you feel like at that moment :D

Way too much hassle....
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 13:42
i like some parts, and not others.

i pretty much hate my job - the thing i do day in, day out - but don't know how to change it or what to do instead. i hate the stress. i hate living with my parents still sometimes. i hate being a uni dropout. i hate having vestigial depression. i hate being overweight and right now i hate having to wear glasses.

however i love amy, and somehow none of the rest of that matters when i talk to her :fluffle:
she helps me bother to get out of bed some mornings (when you're feeling depressed, thats a pretty awesome thing for someone to be able to do) :fluffle:


then of course there are things to be grateful for which ups the quality of my life immensely: living in a rich country, having food available and plentiful and a roof over my head, having two parents who love me, having gadgets like laptops and a car... things like that which make my life actually pretty good.

could be better though on a day-to-day basis


edit: but for 2 years or more i wanted to be dead, or wanted to kill myself on a daily basis... and now i don't. so at the least i like my life a whole lot better now. i can't remember being this happy with life in general, actually... but as i say, there's room for improvement
Legless Pirates
02-02-2006, 13:43
Way too much hassle....
But worth it IMHO
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:44
No. sorry to hear that but why??
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:46
i like some parts, and not others.

i pretty much hate my job - the thing i do day in, day out - but don't know how to change it or what to do instead. i hate the stress. i hate living with my parents still sometimes. i hate being a uni dropout. i hate having vestigial depression. i hate being overweight and right now i hate having to wear glasses.

however i love amy, and somehow none of the rest of that matters when i talk to her :fluffle:
she helps me bother to get out of bed some mornings (when you're feeling depressed, thats a pretty awesome thing for someone to be able to do) :fluffle:


then of course there are things to be grateful for which ups the quality of my life immensely: living in a rich country, having food available and plentiful and a roof over my head, having two parents who love me, having gadgets like laptops and a car... things like that which make my life actually pretty good.

could be better though on a day-to-day basis


edit: but for 2 years or more i wanted to be dead, or wanted to kill myself on a daily basis... and now i don't. so at the least i like my life a whole lot better now. i can't remember being this happy with life in general, actually... but as i say, there's room for improvement thank you for being so candid
Hullepupp
02-02-2006, 13:50
No.

needless to say what you have voted
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 13:54
needless to say what you have voted I was wondering that too ?
Hullepupp
02-02-2006, 13:56
I was wondering that too ?

I don´t wonder cause i know her better like any of you
Legless Pirates
02-02-2006, 13:59
I don´t wonder cause i know her better like any of you
That and she answered "no" and there is only one vote below "could be better" :rolleyes:
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:00
Do you like your life?
Difficult question to answer in just a few words.

I adore being alive. I love my family more than I can ever say. I love my friends, some of whom are on here. I love my two cats and my dog. I love being my age. :p I love that I'm finally able to begin paying down my bills, and that my home will be all paid for this coming September ( Yayyy! ). I love the intellectual stimulation I get on here and by reading, writing, etc. I love that I still have a sex-life. :D I like my little home and my neighborhood. I like the idea that I may finally be able to restart my Ph.D. program.

I don't like that I don't have a car and have to hoof it everywhere or bum a ride with one of my children, although I do get some good exercise walking. I don't like that I still have a couple of bills past due. I don't like the two pounds of metal holding my right leg together.

I hate that my prostate is gone and that I have to go back to the doctor TODAY to have my Prostate Specific Antigen ( PSA ) level checked to see if my cancer has returned. I hate that I can't visit my friends who live too far away. I hate that I have had to wait so long to begin running and working out again. I hate the fact that until recently I have been unable to help my children financially when they need it. I hate that I'm closer to my death than to my birth.

All in all, I suppose you could say that my life is great in most respects, but that there is lots of room for improvement. On balance, life is good. :)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 14:00
That and she answered "no" and there is only one vote below "could be better" :rolleyes: I think you are right
Hullepupp
02-02-2006, 14:02
That and she answered "no" and there is only one vote below "could be better" :rolleyes:

You know her a little bit too ;) I think we could have nice times together ... I remember .... but i do not write it....
Cabra West
02-02-2006, 14:05
needless to say what you have voted

You can all stop wondering, I didn't vote at all. ;)
I might have, if this was multiple choice.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:07
... for 2 years or more i wanted to be dead, or wanted to kill myself on a daily basis... and now i don't. so at the least i like my life a whole lot better now. i can't remember being this happy with life in general, actually... but as i say, there's room for improvement
I would say, young phoole, that your life has begun a climb that's going to last for a long, long time. I'm proud of you! :fluffle:

Let me know if you'd like some help with the career issues. I use to be a Personnel Manager for both GE and Exxon and learned a thing or two in the process. :)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
02-02-2006, 14:12
I hate that my prostate is gone and that I have to go back to the doctor TODAY to have my Prostate Specific Antigen ( PSA ) level checked to see if my cancer has returned.
Oh. I'll keep my fingers crossed, Eutrusca. :( :)
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 14:12
i'ts not too bad, i'm working on making it better. eut's advice should help in that department :D
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 14:12
I hate that my prostate is gone and that I have to go back to the doctor TODAY to have my Prostate Specific Antigen ( PSA ) level checked to see if my cancer has returned.
woah, good luck buddy :fluffle:
*rooting for good news*


thank you for being so candid
quite alright. for some reason i always babble on about my personal life on here more than most other people seem to... bah, who needs privacy anyway :P
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:15
Oh. I'll keep my fingers crossed, Eutrusca. :( :)
Thank you, nice lady. You're a gem! :fluffle:
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:17
i'ts not too bad, i'm working on making it better. eut's advice should help in that department :D
Anytime, young dweeb! ;)

Actually, that's one of the things that make my life good: the opportunity to help in whatever way I can. There's a lesson there ... when you help others, you also help yourself. :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:18
woah, good luck buddy :fluffle:
*rooting for good news*
Thank you, PM. I know you are.

You best take reeeal good care of that young lady who loves you! Don't MAKE me come over there! :D
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 14:19
woah, good luck buddy :fluffle:
*rooting for good news*



quite alright. for some reason i always babble on about my personal life on here more than most other people seem to... bah, who needs privacy anyway :P well we all need a babble now and again
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:21
well we all need a babble now and again
This is true. Unless there's some sort of hormonal imbalance, the best "therepy" is someone who cares enough to truly listen. :)
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 14:21
I hate that my prostate is gone and that I have to go back to the doctor TODAY to have my Prostate Specific Antigen ( PSA ) level checked to see if my cancer has returned.
i hope it comes out well, that way you can continue to share your knowledge with us
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 14:21
I would say, young phoole, that your life has begun a climb that's going to last for a long, long time. I'm proud of you! :fluffle:

Let me know if you'd like some help with the career issues. I use to be a Personnel Manager for both GE and Exxon and learned a thing or two in the process. :)
eut's proud of me? woohoo! :D (makes me smile...thanks man) :)
lets hope you're right...

and yeah, career issues are weird. i've basically narrowed it down to a bunch of things that are pretty much equally likely (how to choose between them then?), but many of which are really hard to make a living out of, or things that'll be really quite difficult to get into and i don't know how... and then there's the fact i live with my parents and work in a family business so i can't really just quit what i'm doing and do something else. and on top of that there's the fact that last time i went to uni i ended up majorly depressed and who's to say that won't happen again? its all rather complicated :(
BackwoodsSquatches
02-02-2006, 14:22
Thank you, nice lady. You're a gem! :fluffle:



Bah!

If you were any kind of man, you would immediately dress down any possible cancer cells, like they were insolent new recruits, a day into boot camp, just like R. Lee Ermey.

Mind you, this would mean talking to your own backside, and calling it "Pyle!", and choice insults as "Maggot!", but this IS your health were talking about.


As you were.....
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 14:22
This is true. Unless there's some sort of hormonal imbalance, the best "therepy" is someone who cares enough to truly listen. :) LOL :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:22
i hope it comes out well, that way you can continue to shae your knowledge with us
Me too. I love doing that, although just how much "knowledge" I have is open to debate. ;)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:24
Bah!

If you were any kind of man, you would immediately dress down any possible cancer cells, like they were insolent new recruits, a day into boot camp, just like R. Lee Ermey.

Mind you, this would mean talking to your own backside, and calling it "Pyle!", and choice insults as "Maggot!", but this IS your health were talking about.

As you were.....
"As I was" was almost disgustingly healthy! Thank you! :D

I already did that, several times. You best be glad your tender ears didn't hear that! LOL!

I attribute my PSA dropping to zero immediately after the operation to the sheer terror my diatribe inspired! :D
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 14:25
Thank you, PM. I know you are.

You best take reeeal good care of that young lady who loves you! Don't MAKE me come over there! :D
i fully intend to! she's incredible and deserves nothing less than being taken care of reeeeeeal well ;) :D


of course, there are dirty connotations there... but i think i'll stick to just promising to make her feel as loved and as special as she deserves every day :fluffle: :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:26
LOL :)
I'm serious as a heart attack. Just to realize that there is someone who cares enough to listen to you pour your heart out is wonderful "therepy." :)
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 14:27
Me too. I love doing that, although just how much "knowledge" I have is open to debate. ;)
more than me in many areas, but we shall see if i can't fix that, i must gain all the world's knowledge FOR IT IS POWER!!!!!!
but i digress :p
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:27
i fully intend to! she's incredible and deserves nothing less than being taken care of reeeeeeal well ;) :D

of course, there are dirty connotations there... but i think i'll stick to just promising to make her feel as loved and as special as she deserves every day :fluffle: :)
[ Grins ear-to-ear! ] There are few things in life better than finding someone you can love without reservation. Go for it, young dude! :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:28
more than me in many areas, but we shall see if i can't fix that, i must gain all the world's knowledge FOR IT IS POWER!!!!!!
but i digress :p
No shit! ROFLMAO!

You just "digress" all over the place! As a matter of fact, I think you got some of it on me! :p
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 14:29
I'm serious as a heart attack. Just to realize that there is someone who cares enough to listen to you pour your heart out is wonderful "therepy." :)
i have to agree with that, it's helped me and i've helped someone else out by listening to her before
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 14:30
[ Grins ear-to-ear! ] There are few things in life better than finding someone you can love without reservation. Go for it, young dude! :D

:D damn right
which is precisely why i said this:

however, i love amy, and somehow none of the rest of that matters when i talk to her :fluffle:
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 14:31
I'm serious as a heart attack. Just to realize that there is someone who cares enough to listen to you pour your heart out is wonderful "therepy." :) fair enough
BackwoodsSquatches
02-02-2006, 14:32
"As I was" was almost disgustingly healthy! Thank you! :D

I already did that, several times. You best be glad your tender ears didn't hear that! LOL!

I attribute my PSA dropping to zero immediately after the operation to the sheer terror my diatribe inspired! :D


I do so enjoy terrifying diatribes.

Even though I probably have nothing in common with Ermey, particularly in the realms of politics, yet possibly a general distrust of watermelons, I would consider it a personal honor, to be "dressed down" by the man.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:32
eut's proud of me? woohoo! :D (makes me smile...thanks man) :)
lets hope you're right...

and yeah, career issues are weird. i've basically narrowed it down to a bunch of things that are pretty much equally likely (how to choose between them then?), but many of which are really hard to make a living out of, or things that'll be really quite difficult to get into and i don't know how... and then there's the fact i live with my parents and work in a family business so i can't really just quit what i'm doing and do something else. and on top of that there's the fact that last time i went to uni i ended up majorly depressed and who's to say that won't happen again? its all rather complicated :(
One of the things I've learned from working with people who are considering career change is that most people aim far too low. We "misunderestimate" ourselves. ;)

Your use of the word "likely" tells me that you may be one of them. We need to work on that, Grasshopper! :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:34
I do so enjoy terrifying diatribes.

Even though I probably have nothing in common with Ermey, particularly in the realms of politics, yet possibly a general distrust of watermelons, I would consider it a personal honor, to be "dressed down" by the man.
I consider Arlee a hoot! He'll go on one of those, "Don't you go anywhere! I'm not done with you yet, maggot," rants and I just laugh like a phoole! :D
Eternal Lost Souls
02-02-2006, 14:34
You are in control of your own life, you make the decisions. If you dont like your job, change it. If you are too overweight, exercise. If you are single and wish you werent, go and meet people. There is a simple solution to every single problem in life....however, if you can't be arsed, buy a gun and shoot yourself.
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 14:34
I'm serious as a heart attack. Just to realize that there is someone who cares enough to listen to you pour your heart out is wonderful "therepy." :)
i can attest to this :)
best when it works both ways
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:35
:D damn right
which is precisely why i said this:
Ah, the women who grace our lives! Ain't they great? :D
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 14:36
i like some parts, and not others.

i pretty much hate my job - the thing i do day in, day out - but don't know how to change it or what to do instead. i hate the stress. i hate living with my parents still sometimes. i hate being a uni dropout. i hate having vestigial depression. i hate being overweight and right now i hate having to wear glasses.

however i love amy, and somehow none of the rest of that matters when i talk to her :fluffle:
she helps me bother to get out of bed some mornings (when you're feeling depressed, thats a pretty awesome thing for someone to be able to do) :fluffle:


then of course there are things to be grateful for which ups the quality of my life immensely: living in a rich country, having food available and plentiful and a roof over my head, having two parents who love me, having gadgets like laptops and a car... things like that which make my life actually pretty good.

could be better though on a day-to-day basis


edit: but for 2 years or more i wanted to be dead, or wanted to kill myself on a daily basis... and now i don't. so at the least i like my life a whole lot better now. i can't remember being this happy with life in general, actually... but as i say, there's room for improvement

Glad you made it through that rough spot-and now that you have someone significant in your life making you feel good about yourself-I bet you're glad too.
Good for you-and good for Amy.

I like to hear good news.:D
Kilobugya
02-02-2006, 14:38
i fully intend to! she's incredible and deserves nothing less than being taken care of reeeeeeal well ;) :D


of course, there are dirty connotations there... but i think i'll stick to just promising to make her feel as loved and as special as she deserves every day :fluffle: :)

Good luck, comrade ! ;)

But I'm sure she'll be happy with someone like you :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:38
i can attest to this :)
best when it works both ways
Now why, oh why do I sense an "Amy" in there somewhere? Heh!

True intimacy is found at the end of a process of mutual heart-opening. Eventually, whenever we become introspective, we discover a part of them near the core smiling back at us. Yes, it takes work, but, God, the rewards! :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:41
You are in control of your own life, you make the decisions. If you dont like your job, change it. If you are too overweight, exercise. If you are single and wish you werent, go and meet people. There is a simple solution to every single problem in life....however, if you can't be arsed, buy a gun and shoot yourself.
"Shooting yourself" should never be an option, IMHO. Life is too precious and rare to waste it.

You are correct about the rest, though with a small caveat: sometimes people need a bit of help to begin this process. No shame in that. It's very human to need a bit of encouragement.
Cloranche
02-02-2006, 14:41
I go around singing "i'm walking on sunshine, woohooo!
BackwoodsSquatches
02-02-2006, 14:41
eut's proud of me? woohoo! :D (makes me smile...thanks man) :)
lets hope you're right...

and yeah, career issues are weird. i've basically narrowed it down to a bunch of things that are pretty much equally likely (how to choose between them then?), but many of which are really hard to make a living out of, or things that'll be really quite difficult to get into and i don't know how... and then there's the fact i live with my parents and work in a family business so i can't really just quit what i'm doing and do something else. and on top of that there's the fact that last time i went to uni i ended up majorly depressed and who's to say that won't happen again? its all rather complicated :(

Lets learn from the Book of Yoda.

"Do...or do not, there is no try."

This means determination is the entire battle.
If you are determined to win, you have already won.
If you wish to stay with your family's business, a degree in business management, would go a long ways to help.
If your future lies elsewhere, you have to find what that path is.

Dont let anyone else make it for you.

I suggest mooching a pile of money from the folks, taking that pretty little lady of yours on a European backpacking trip, and proposing to her somewhere cool, like Barcelona...

..and then go back to school.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 14:44
Difficult question to answer in just a few words.

I adore being alive. I love my family more than I can ever say. I love my friends, some of whom are on here. I love my two cats and my dog. I love being my age. :p I love that I'm finally able to begin paying down my bills, and that my home will be all paid for this coming September ( Yayyy! ). I love the intellectual stimulation I get on here and by reading, writing, etc. I love that I still have a sex-life. :D I like my little home and my neighborhood. I like the idea that I may finally be able to restart my Ph.D. program.

I don't like that I don't have a car and have to hoof it everywhere or bum a ride with one of my children, although I do get some good exercise walking. I don't like that I still have a couple of bills past due. I don't like the two pounds of metal holding my right leg together.

I hate that my prostate is gone and that I have to go back to the doctor TODAY to have my Prostate Specific Antigen ( PSA ) level checked to see if my cancer has returned. I hate that I can't visit my friends who live too far away. I hate that I have had to wait so long to begin running and working out again. I hate the fact that until recently I have been unable to help my children financially when they need it. I hate that I'm closer to my death than to my birth.

All in all, I suppose you could say that my life is great in most respects, but that there is lots of room for improvement. On balance, life is good. :)

Good luck, buddy. I like to hear about your victories and your positive, determined attitude. You've had a lot to deal with, but I often notice you smiling when you've overcome.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:45
I like to hear good news.:D
How about this for "good news?" God or the universe, take your pick, loves you, else why are you here? I love you too, though in a manly sort of way, you understand. *cough* :D
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 14:54
How about this for "good news?" God or the universe, take your pick, loves you, else why are you here? I love you too, though in a manly sort of way, you understand. *cough* :D
what if god is just going to take away the good stuff just as we get it? maybe he hates us?
meh, who am i convincing? nobody. nobudy would believe that. i must stop rambling. :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 14:56
Good luck, buddy. I like to hear about your victories and your positive, determined attitude. You've had a lot to deal with, but I often notice you smiling when you've overcome.
Actually, there have been times when I was truly scared, but I attribute my "hell bent for leather" attitude primarily to my military training. Sometimes you just have to say "The HELL with this shit!" and begin to kick ass and take names with a damn short pencil! :D
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 14:57
Lets learn from the Book of Yoda.

"Do...or do not, there is no try."

This means determination is the entire battle.
If you are determined to win, you have already won.
If you wish to stay with your family's business, a degree in business management, would go a long ways to help.
If your future lies elsewhere, you have to find what that path is.

Dont let anyone else make it for you.

I suggest mooching a pile of money from the folks, taking that pretty little lady of yours on a European backpacking trip, and proposing to her somewhere cool, like Barcelona...

..and then go back to school.

My suggestion would be to get a little further along with your studies/career. Finish school or get started with the career you want. Life is easier with another when you are more of your own man-When you're responsible for yourself, you chances of being responsible for another and doing well at it are better. My advice is based in suggesting you have your own foundation first- a useful degree or resume, income, direction.
Only my opinion as there is tons of evidence all around of things working or failing both ways. I feel its better to have less complications when its time for you to make your choices-now you still have your parent's support (you may not know how great this is when all you can think about is being on your own) and things are simpler to do now than they will be.

I wont even start to mention what happens when a baby enters the picture-wether planned or not.

Either way- you're living life-enjoy it.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:00
what if god is just going to take away the good stuff just as we get it? maybe he hates us?
meh, who am i convincing? nobody. nobudy would believe that. i must stop rambling. :D
One thing I have learned to do is look back after I've slogged my way through some sort of tribulation, and ask, "Did I learn anything?" If you can honestly say yes to that question, then it serves to verify that it wasn't an act of "hate" which sent you through it, but an act of love. Attitude, Grasshopper, is at least 90% of the battle. :)
The Abomination
02-02-2006, 15:04
The world is inundated with suffering and death. My society is dying, the very air I breathe is thick with the cloying sweetness of its decay. I walk the streets and see hopeless desperation in every eye, perversion and insanity held up as the highest standards of behaviour. Words like duty, honour, righteousness... hated, despised and insulted whenever someone tries to makes a stand.

Selfish individualism has resulted in a government so monumentally corrupt we can only call it 'liberty' and claim its what we wanted all along. The only people we can call successful are the ruthless scum that use brutality, malice and cruelty to carve personal empires out of the collapse. Even our warriors, who should be paragons of the HIGHEST standards of behaviour, are succumbing to the vile decadence that sweeps away any vestige of strength and goodness.

And I love it, because I'm a sadistic bastard. My life is fantastic. When it all goes pearshaped, I'm gonna have some great memories to tide me over. I have good, likeminded friends to watch my back, decadence has its charms and I'll cheerfully exploit whoever (apart from my mates) and whatever (apart from my faith) to get ahead. And its working. Oh heavens yes its working.

Take it from someone who's been both sides; Nice guys finish last, Evil Bastards have all the fun.
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 15:04
One thing I have learned to do is look back after I've slogged my way through some sort of tribulation, and ask, "Did I learn anything?" If you can honestly say yes to that question, then it serves to verify that it wasn't an act of "hate" which sent you through it, but an act of love. Attitude, Grasshopper, is at least 90% of the battle. :)
fair enough, though that's the hardest thing to fix - bad attitude
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 15:05
How about this for "good news?" God or the universe, take your pick, loves you, else why are you here? I love you too, though in a manly sort of way, you understand. *cough* :D

Not in a prison kind of way, right?

Life's good for me too. Its had its ups and downs, but the "ups" have been a lot higher than the "downs" have been low, lately.

My family and I are all healthy. I'm selling my house for twice what I paid for it. Moving to a brand new one,still under construction with ten times the property I have now. My kids are flourishing. My job is going well with a significant advance in the works in the next two months. My wife's job is going well. She'll be going back to law school in 3 years when my youngest is in school full time.
I've dealt with some really terrible stuff in my past-but it seems like it was long ago and far away. I'm a lot tougher and more prepared under the scars-physical and mental.

Back at you, Eut. Keep taking care of yourself.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 15:08
Actually, there have been times when I was truly scared, but I attribute my "hell bent for leather" attitude primarily to my military training. Sometimes you just have to say "The HELL with this shit!" and begin to kick ass and take names with a damn short pencil! :D

We have a lot in common. Your further along a similar path.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:09
Not in a prison kind of way, right?

Life's good for me too. Its had its ups and downs, but the "ups" have been a lot higher than the "downs" have been low, lately.

My family and I are all healthy. I'm selling my house for twice what I paid for it. Moving to a brand new one,still under construction with ten times the property I have now. My kids are flourishing. My job is going well with a significant advance in the works in the next two months. My wife's job is going well. She'll be going back to law school in 3 years when my youngest is in school full time.
I've dealt with some really terrible stuff in my past-but it seems like it was long ago and far away. I'm a lot tougher and more prepared under the scars-physical and mental.

Back at you, Eut. Keep taking care of yourself.
Good for you, bro! Go for it! Grab life by the frakking balls and shake it until you have what you want! :D

Taking care of myself seems to be one of my better skills. :D

People who have been through various sorts of hell and who come out not only whole, but better, are one of my favorite sorts. Perhaps that's why I like you so much, eh? :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:13
fair enough, though that's the hardest thing to fix - bad attitude
No one promised you "easy," I hope. Because anything worth having is going to take a bit of work. With attitude, the first step is owning up to the fact that your attitude is just that ... YOUR attitude. No one else's ... yours! You own it, you helped create it ... it belongs to you. You can change things which belong to you, yes?
Missgwish
02-02-2006, 15:19
i love my life! love my friends, love my family, great job, fantastic college course! can't complain, now if only i could get my boyfriend to appriciate me more....
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 15:21
i love my life! love my friends, love my family, great job, fantastic college course! can't complain, now if only i could get my boyfriend to appriciate me more.... Nice one. Does he take you for granted?
Murderous maniacs
02-02-2006, 15:23
No one promised you "easy," I hope. Because anything worth having is going to take a bit of work. With attitude, the first step is owning up to the fact that your attitude is just that ... YOUR attitude. No one else's ... yours! You own it, you helped create it ... it belongs to you. You can change things which belong to you, yes?
yeah, i can handle that, i just need to put everything i know into practice now
The Firefly Tatsu
02-02-2006, 15:27
Well if mine didn't suck so bad, then maybe I wouldn't have selected shoot me.

After the Air Force decided to end my enlistment a year early, though honorably discharged, I am finding life on the outside hard, especially in regards to finding a job and my family of four is teetering on the brink mostly due to how quickly the military forced me out with no transistion assistance and how they provided me with little to no transisition benefits.

Been thinking hard on writing a book on the subject, how the Air Force deals with people who do not simply go along and say "go war".
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 15:28
Lets learn from the Book of Yoda.

"Do...or do not, there is no try."

This means determination is the entire battle.
If you are determined to win, you have already won.
If you wish to stay with your family's business, a degree in business management, would go a long ways to help.
If your future lies elsewhere, you have to find what that path is.

Dont let anyone else make it for you.

I suggest mooching a pile of money from the folks, taking that pretty little lady of yours on a European backpacking trip, and proposing to her somewhere cool, like Barcelona...

..and then go back to school.
determination might be half (or all) the battle, but what if you're not sure what you're determined to do? thats the problem - deciding what to aim for out of all the possibilities and fancies, which is practical, which are actually possible, which are best, etc?

i know i don't want to stay in the family business because i don't want to live to work - i want to work to live, that much is certain.

as for taking Amy round europe, i'd love to! unfortunatley she's a little young for that, and certainly a little young to propose to her!


My suggestion would be to get a little further along with your studies/career. Finish school or get started with the career you want. Life is easier with another when you are more of your own man-When you're responsible for yourself, you chances of being responsible for another and doing well at it are better. My advice is based in suggesting you have your own foundation first- a useful degree or resume, income, direction.
Only my opinion as there is tons of evidence all around of things working or failing both ways. I feel its better to have less complications when its time for you to make your choices-now you still have your parent's support (you may not know how great this is when all you can think about is being on your own) and things are simpler to do now than they will be.

I wont even start to mention what happens when a baby enters the picture-wether planned or not.

Either way- you're living life-enjoy it.
i am fully aware of how great it is to have my parents' support (and they have shown me great support all through my life and especially with the depression recently), but i wouldn't say that all i can think about is being on my own, though i do want that and would truly love to become something more of my own man - more responsible and indipendent.
problem with that though is that when i tried that at uni... i don't know... maybe i have some issues, maybe i'm just not strong enough, but i couldn't hack it.

and the other major problem is people say you've got to 'decide what you want and go for it!' but a major and fundamentally important part of that is the deciding part: deciding what it is you want, or can, do. people seem to neglect that making that decision is difficult, nay near impossible... for me at least. even going back to uni requires this sort of decision: what to study?
i'm not particularly self-confident in that i don't think "i'll be fine whatever i throw myself into", but i do know i have some skills and talents (better than i was last year when i believed i had no talents, no nothing going for me)... so its working out how to use those positively and in a way that'll lead to the above - to becoming my own man - thats important and, sadly, impossibly difficult without help. (unfortunatley my parents aren't much help as they can't really see past their own horrifically massive workload, which i continually struggle against to not get caught up in)

ergo: its complicated and difficult, and once again i've turned somoene else's thread round into PM-whine-time :headbang:
however, thank you both for your advice :)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 15:34
I go around singing "i'm walking on sunshine, woohooo! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:37
i love my life! love my friends, love my family, great job, fantastic college course! can't complain, now if only i could get my boyfriend to appriciate me more....
Make him suspect that you're thinking about leaving him. That's like a dash of cold water in the face! Just do it very subtlely, or you may get more than you bargained for. :)
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:39
yeah, i can handle that, i just need to put everything i know into practice now
And you're waiting for what? An engraved invitation? An ass-kicking? :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:40
... its complicated and difficult, and once again i've turned somoene else's thread round into PM-whine-time :headbang:
Stop that! If you can't talk openly with your friends, who the hell CAN you talk openly with? Once again: Don't MAKE me come over there! :D
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 15:42
Who voted Other?
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:44
Well if mine didn't suck so bad, then maybe I wouldn't have selected shoot me.

After the Air Force decided to end my enlistment a year early, though honorably discharged, I am finding life on the outside hard, especially in regards to finding a job and my family of four is teetering on the brink mostly due to how quickly the military forced me out with no transistion assistance and how they provided me with little to no transisition benefits.

Been thinking hard on writing a book on the subject, how the Air Force deals with people who do not simply go along and say "go war".
Every action we take has consequences.

If you have an honorable discharge, you're miles ahead of those with less than honorable ones. Let me know if you'd like some help with finding a job. Usually it's not nearly as difficult as we build it up to be in our minds. I've been unemployed several times and it sucks, but there are lots of techniques you can use to help speed the process.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:44
Who voted Other?
LOL! And more to the point: WTF, over? :D
Tolero
02-02-2006, 15:45
Has been pretty bad in the past, and I occasionally still get moments of that now, but overall at the moment it's alright.
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 15:47
Stop that! If you can't talk openly with your friends, who the hell CAN you talk openly with? Once again: Don't MAKE me come over there! :D
heh, thanks :)
just been trying to talk about it with my parents but i, once again, just get the standard blanket answer of "i can't deal with that right now"
but they can never 'deal with it'
bah! :(
JuNii
02-02-2006, 15:48
Well ? I love mine and I am living it to the full

I am male age 37 and married
Voted Could be Better.

why?

Simple. I LOVE MY LIFE... but to think that It cannot get better than this is wrong. it can always improve.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:48
heh, thanks :)
just been trying to talk about it with my parents but i, once again, just get the standard blanket answer of "i can't deal with that right now"
but they can never 'deal with it'
bah! :(
Lay it ON me, dude! I can DEAL wid it! :D
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 15:48
LOL! And more to the point: WTF, over? :D :gundge:
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:49
Voted Could be Better.

why?

Simple. I LOVE MY LIFE... but to think that It cannot get better than this is wrong. it can always improve.
Yes, and beyond that, believing that it WILL get better puts you on track to make it that way.
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:51
:gundge:
Hey! Now look what you did to my best robe! :p
JuNii
02-02-2006, 15:52
Hey! Now look what you did to my best robe! :p
Psst... club soda will get that out.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 15:52
Good for you, bro! Go for it! Grab life by the frakking balls and shake it until you have what you want! :D

Taking care of myself seems to be one of my better skills. :D

People who have been through various sorts of hell and who come out not only whole, but better, are one of my favorite sorts. Perhaps that's why I like you so much, eh? :D


I dont know how much "better" I am, but I can happily live with myself.

could be.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 15:53
Hey! Now look what you did to my best robe! :p
yeeeeeeesh:p
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:53
Psst... club soda will get that out.
Whew! I thought I might have to burn the damned thing! :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:54
yeeeeeeesh:p
LOL! Well, at least you're honest. :D
Eutrusca
02-02-2006, 15:54
I dont know how much "better" I am, but I can happily live with myself.

could be.
Did you learn anything?
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 15:56
Lay it ON me, dude! I can DEAL wid it! :D
haha well i really don't know what else to say...
besides, i am supposed to be working right about now :p

i suppose i could say that i want to do something creative and what i'm doing right now really isn't... something like photography (current favourite), architecture (4 year degree on top of the 2 i already wasted at uni, plus probably don't have the qualifications or mathematical ability), music production (no clue about music theory and dyslexic - makes it really hard to learn, and working musical theory is a required qualification/a-level for most uni degrees in it), cooking/chef (but commercial kitchens are so fucking stressful), and then the stupid ones that are as impossible to make a living out of as saying you want to be a rock-star: artist of some sort, novelist... that sort of thing.

its all a big load of toss really, and the easiest thing to do is to just stay here doing something i don't really like but at least getting paid and having support and food (and, soon, a drum kit woot!)

edit: so the question is: how to decide between those? each one will require some kind of training or going back to school, so i can only really commit to one...
Kazcaper
02-02-2006, 16:01
I voted "OK". Mostly, things are good; I have a great boyfriend, a few good and close friends who would lay down their lives for me and a good education.

The problems? Aside from having clinical depression, which is a pretty big down point in and of itself, that good education doesn't look like it's leading me anywhere - aside from love and friendships, the only major thing I really wanted out of life was a career I loved. I've amassed quite a large amount of debt in trying to get that career but, although on the face of it there is quite a lot of work in my area here, the reality is that it's all notoriously difficult to get a foot into, no matter how well qualified or enthusiastic a person is.

However, rather than be defeatist about it, I'll keep trying :) You never know. That aside, things are grand.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 16:03
determination might be half (or all) the battle, but what if you're not sure what you're determined to do? thats the problem - deciding what to aim for out of all the possibilities and fancies, which is practical, which are actually possible, which are best, etc?

i know i don't want to stay in the family business because i don't want to live to work - i want to work to live, that much is certain.

as for taking Amy round europe, i'd love to! unfortunatley she's a little young for that, and certainly a little young to propose to her!



i am fully aware of how great it is to have my parents' support (and they have shown me great support all through my life and especially with the depression recently), but i wouldn't say that all i can think about is being on my own, though i do want that and would truly love to become something more of my own man - more responsible and indipendent.
problem with that though is that when i tried that at uni... i don't know... maybe i have some issues, maybe i'm just not strong enough, but i couldn't hack it.

and the other major problem is people say you've got to 'decide what you want and go for it!' but a major and fundamentally important part of that is the deciding part: deciding what it is you want, or can, do. people seem to neglect that making that decision is difficult, nay near impossible... for me at least. even going back to uni requires this sort of decision: what to study?
i'm not particularly self-confident in that i don't think "i'll be fine whatever i throw myself into", but i do know i have some skills and talents (better than i was last year when i believed i had no talents, no nothing going for me)... so its working out how to use those positively and in a way that'll lead to the above - to becoming my own man - thats important and, sadly, impossibly difficult without help. (unfortunatley my parents aren't much help as they can't really see past their own horrifically massive workload, which i continually struggle against to not get caught up in)

ergo: its complicated and difficult, and once again i've turned somoene else's thread round into PM-whine-time :headbang:
however, thank you both for your advice :)

You're on the right track-you're intelligent and open minded and you have people that care about you involved in your life.

I dont know that this will help you any, but I'm 38 yrs old, married with three kids and still dont know what I want to be when I grow up.

Its great you recognise you're more confident and have more skills and talent than last year- Its likely that a year from now, you'll have improved even more in those areas-they often grow with momentum, that being your optimism and good attitude.

Things are looking up for you and in a way, I envy your youth and potential opporotunities.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 16:06
LOL! Well, at least you're honest. :D always ;)
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 16:09
Did you learn anything?

Hell yeah. And have often considered writing a book at the advice of friends and family. It sounds good, but I'm lazy. I have compiled some notes in case I change my mind in the future-I dont want to forget some details.
Could be a good read wether it was published as fact or fiction. I may hand it to my son somewhere down the road- he loves to write, aspires to be a writer. He could make something of it, but may look at me different when he's had a chance to digest it all.
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 16:10
You're on the right track-you're intelligent and open minded and you have people that care about you involved in your life.

I dont know that this will help you any, but I'm 38 yrs old, married with three kids and still dont know what I want to be when I grow up.

Its great you recognise you're more confident and have more skills and talent than last year- Its likely that a year from now, you'll have improved even more in those areas-they often grow with momentum, that being your optimism and good attitude.

Things are looking up for you and in a way, I envy your youth and potential opporotunities.
thank you... :)

its not really a matter of 'knowing what i want to do when i want to grow up' but more that i know i don't want to be doing what it is i'm doing now, and trying to figure out what to move on to next.
i know what you do tomorrow or the path you start on rarely becomes your 'career for life' (if there is such a thing) and the lyrics of stairway to heaven still ring true for everyone ("yes there are two paths you can go down, but in the long run, you can change the path you're on") so i'm probably blowing this decision out of proportion in my head, but its still an important decision to me. i can't really just "do a job", as in just for the money... a job really has to mean something to me for me to have any kind of motivation. maybe thats not a great attutude to have for getting on in life, but its the way i am.

but you have a family, a wife, and kids... i envy you for that, you know. maybe i'm weird but if there's one thing i want to do in life, thats raise a family as well as i can

lets hope you're right about the future :)
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 16:22
thank you... :)

its not really a matter of 'knowing what i want to do when i want to grow up' but more that i know i don't want to be doing what it is i'm doing now, and trying to figure out what to move on to next.
i know what you do tomorrow or the path you start on rarely becomes your 'career for life' (if there is such a thing) and the lyrics of stairway to heaven still ring true for everyone ("yes there are two paths you can go down, but in the long run, you can change the path you're on") so i'm probably blowing this decision out of proportion in my head, but its still an important decision to me. i can't really just "do a job", as in just for the money... a job really has to mean something to me for me to have any kind of motivation. maybe thats not a great attutude to have for getting on in life, but its the way i am.

but you have a family, a wife, and kids... i envy you for that, you know. maybe i'm weird but if there's one thing i want to do in life, thats raise a family as well as i can

lets hope you're right about the future :)

Even if you make a "wrong" choice of what to do- those choices often expose new opporotunities and make new connections.
You also have the luxury of being able to make a mistake now, without a huge penalty.

I found out the hard way how limited choices can become when you have people you're responsible for depending on you. When I was on my own, I could do almost anything-a bad choice could leave me sleeping on the floor at a friend's or in a car. When you have the family going, its a little more pressure.

you'll make the good choices-they wont be permanently binding. You have a good heart and mind and some people in your life with experience to give you advice.
just make the choice- dont fret over it so long that the choice makes itself or takes itself away. You're as capable and prepared to decide what to do with your next day as anyone.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 16:23
This thread seems very popular
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 16:33
Even if you make a "wrong" choice of what to do- those choices often expose new opporotunities and make new connections.
You also have the luxury of being able to make a mistake now, without a huge penalty.

I found out the hard way how limited choices can become when you have people you're responsible for depending on you. When I was on my own, I could do almost anything-a bad choice could leave me sleeping on the floor at a friend's or in a car. When you have the family going, its a little more pressure.

you'll make the good choices-they wont be permanently binding. You have a good heart and mind and some people in your life with experience to give you advice.
just make the choice- dont fret over it so long that the choice makes itself or takes itself away. You're as capable and prepared to decide what to do with your next day as anyone.
heh, well i'm still not so sure about that... i'd still like to make the best decision i can, and if that means fretting over it then so be it. just kinda miserable with things in the mean-time... and cos of the whole family business thing (and they need me) its gonna have to be a slow transition... complicated-like
still, thanks for your help :)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 17:03
Thank you all
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 17:28
Generally yes then
Kanabia
02-02-2006, 17:36
I've slowly struggled my way up that list over the past few years. "Could be better", I picked. Here's hoping that this year will be a good one.
The blessed Chris
02-02-2006, 17:39
Irritated by a myriad of things, far too numerous to mention.
Glitziness
02-02-2006, 17:47
Okay Huw, I can't offer the same life-experience advice that other people in this thread have but you should know that I'll be here throughout. Whatever choice you make, I'll still love you. If you choose something with crap pay but which you enjoy, if you're happy, I'll be happy. If you choose something that takes a whole load of work and means you going back to Uni, if you're happy, I'll be happy. And regardless of whether you're happy or not, I'll still love you and do all that I can to help support you in any way that I can to try and help you be happy :fluffle:

I was going to say that I don't need you to be successful. But that's untrue. The thing is though, having a well-paid, high-flying job etc etc doesn't equal success in my eyes necessarily. I think you already are successful. You're successful in dealing with all the crap life hands you and coming out the other side. And you're successful in helping me enormously - for the last few months you've stopped me sinking back into depression each time I easily could have and that's an incredible thing to. When I'm ill like I am now, that always triggers depression with me, and it would have been so easy with coursework deadlines coming up, but you spun my mood around in less than a minute and prevented that from happening. I don't know quite how simply talking to you helps me that much, but it does. If giving someone hope for the future, giving them strength to get through each day and fight depression, and giving them new confidence in themselves isn't a success, I sure as hell don't know what is.

You are generally an amazing, caring, intelligent person and that's a success in itself.

If I ever can help in any way, you know I will. I mean, if you need help with maths, I'll be studying it next year and know it at GCSE level and can help you with it. If you need help with musical theory, I can brush up on my own and help you. (If you need someone to practice your cooking on, I'll glady agree ;) ) If you just need to talk to someone, either to get stress out or to think through your options with, I'll glady listen and offer my opinion. If you need help writing applications, or someone to prepare you for interviews, or someone to look through newspapers for jobs with, or someone to do searching abou courses for universities, or someone to give you a massage when you're stressed (:p), or pretty much anything else you can think of - I'll be there. I don't know how much I can help but I'll never pass the opportunity to try.

The advice I can give is that if you're not happy (which you aren't) you have to do something. I know it's not simple to carry that out, but it is a simple enough statement and it holds true. It isn't benefitting anyone for you to be suffering in a job you hate and if your parents realised how bad it was for you I doubt they'd want you to be this unhappy. Well done for taking the first step and talking to them; now you just have to continue being pro-active (heh, I'm such a hypocrite... :P). If you can't get them to listen when face-to-face, do what I've done in the past and write it all down. It'll get all you want to say out, stem a conversation and hopefully get you thinking about what you can do.

I'm starting to ramble on now so I'll stop in a second. Basically, you are in control of your life - your life doesn't control you. If you want things to change, you have to change. That doesn't make it easy or simple or make anything magically fit into place. But you can do this. I have every faith in you. And I mean that; without a doubt in my mind I can say that you have the potential to go far in life.

All the while, I'll be here, loving you regardless and offering my full support in any choice you make. Don't forget that.
:fluffle:
Glitziness
02-02-2006, 18:09
As for my own life, I'm happy with it. It's far from perfect and so am I, but I get through it all okay, come out the other side having learnt something, and carry on. I try to make the right decisions, and I try to learn from mistakes. I do my best to help others, and I've come a long way in a short time with my relationships: I don't hold grudges anymore, I'm much more honest, I take more risks, I'm more comfortable with my friends, I seem to have got a good balance between being careful but also not mis-trustful and am generally far more healthy about relationships. I've grown a lot more confident about myself and am far more positive about myself and my future, largely due to Huw (:fluffle:). I still have plenty of flaws but I'm working on them. I still find school hard but I'm coping better with the stress and expectations. Soon enough I'll be out of compulsory education and able to have more control over my life. Family life isn't always great but it has improved.

And even if you get rid of all the other improvements in my life, the one huge improvement in my life counts for far more - Huw. Actually, I probably wouldn't see how good my life was if I didn't have Huw to help me deal with depression and help support me each and every day. My whole perspective and outlook seems to have changed just by knowing someone loves me, and a someone who's as fantastic as Huw. I can't thank him enough.

But in exactly 12 days time from now, I'll be with him at last to shower him in thanks! :p :fluffle:
The blessed Chris
02-02-2006, 18:13
As for my own life, I'm happy with it. It's far from perfect and so am I, but I get through it all okay, come out the other side having learnt something, and carry on. I try to make the right decisions, and I try to learn from mistakes. I do my best to help others, and I've come a long way in a short time with my relationships: I don't hold grudges anymore, I'm much more honest, I take more risks, I'm more comfortable with my friends, I seem to have got a good balance between being careful but also not mis-trustful and am generally far more healthy about relationships. I've grown a lot more confident about myself and am far more positive about myself and my future, largely due to Huw (:fluffle:). I still have plenty of flaws but I'm working on them. I still find school hard but I'm coping better with the stress and expectations. Soon enough I'll be out of compulsory education and able to have more control over my life. Family life isn't always great but it has improved.

And even if you get rid of all the other improvements in my life, the one huge improvement in my life counts for far more - Huw. Actually, I probably wouldn't see how good my life was if I didn't have Huw to help me deal with depression and help support me each and every day. My whole perspective and outlook seems to have changed just by knowing someone loves me, and a someone who's as fantastic as Huw. I can't thank him enough.

But in exactly 12 days time from now, I'll be with him at last to shower him in thanks! :p :fluffle:

Stop rubbing it in now....:(
Wallonochia
02-02-2006, 18:19
I attribute my PSA dropping to zero immediately after the operation to the sheer terror my diatribe inspired! :D

It should have gone something like this

Cancer.... attention!

On the command of fall out, fall out and fall back in on Paris Hilton.

Fall out!


Aynway, as for life I'd have to say that it could be worse. It's been kinda hard adjusting from being active duty military to being a student. What always helps is thinking "Well, at least I haven't been shot at in a while".

My personal philosophy is that you shouldn't worry about the things you have no control over. If a problem comes up, figure out a way to fix it. If you can't fix it, figure out what you can do, and then do that. Worrying and whining doesn't help at all. And if there is absolutely nothing to do about it, all you can do is just roll with it, right?
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 18:51
Okay Huw, I can't offer the same life-experience advice that other people in this thread have but you should know that I'll be here throughout. Whatever choice you make, I'll still love you. If you choose something with crap pay but which you enjoy, if you're happy, I'll be happy. If you choose something that takes a whole load of work and means you going back to Uni, if you're happy, I'll be happy. And regardless of whether you're happy or not, I'll still love you and do all that I can to help support you in any way that I can to try and help you be happy :fluffle:

I was going to say that I don't need you to be successful. But that's untrue. The thing is though, having a well-paid, high-flying job etc etc doesn't equal success in my eyes necessarily. I think you already are successful. You're successful in dealing with all the crap life hands you and coming out the other side. And you're successful in helping me enormously - for the last few months you've stopped me sinking back into depression each time I easily could have and that's an incredible thing to. When I'm ill like I am now, that always triggers depression with me, and it would have been so easy with coursework deadlines coming up, but you spun my mood around in less than a minute and prevented that from happening. I don't know quite how simply talking to you helps me that much, but it does. If giving someone hope for the future, giving them strength to get through each day and fight depression, and giving them new confidence in themselves isn't a success, I sure as hell don't know what is.

You are generally an amazing, caring, intelligent person and that's a success in itself.

If I ever can help in any way, you know I will. I mean, if you need help with maths, I'll be studying it next year and know it at GCSE level and can help you with it. If you need help with musical theory, I can brush up on my own and help you. (If you need someone to practice your cooking on, I'll glady agree ;) ) If you just need to talk to someone, either to get stress out or to think through your options with, I'll glady listen and offer my opinion. If you need help writing applications, or someone to prepare you for interviews, or someone to look through newspapers for jobs with, or someone to do searching abou courses for universities, or someone to give you a massage when you're stressed (:p), or pretty much anything else you can think of - I'll be there. I don't know how much I can help but I'll never pass the opportunity to try.

The advice I can give is that if you're not happy (which you aren't) you have to do something. I know it's not simple to carry that out, but it is a simple enough statement and it holds true. It isn't benefitting anyone for you to be suffering in a job you hate and if your parents realised how bad it was for you I doubt they'd want you to be this unhappy. Well done for taking the first step and talking to them; now you just have to continue being pro-active (heh, I'm such a hypocrite... :P). If you can't get them to listen when face-to-face, do what I've done in the past and write it all down. It'll get all you want to say out, stem a conversation and hopefully get you thinking about what you can do.

I'm starting to ramble on now so I'll stop in a second. Basically, you are in control of your life - your life doesn't control you. If you want things to change, you have to change. That doesn't make it easy or simple or make anything magically fit into place. But you can do this. I have every faith in you. And I mean that; without a doubt in my mind I can say that you have the potential to go far in life.

All the while, I'll be here, loving you regardless and offering my full support in any choice you make. Don't forget that.
:fluffle: gosh ;)
Glitziness
02-02-2006, 19:17
gosh ;)
That the first time you've come across a soppy rant from me to Huw? :p
I pity you either way ;) :p

Stop rubbing it in now.... :(
You'd rather read about people being unhappy?

I don't mean to "rub it in". I was asked about my life, and Huw's a part of my life so he's involved in the response.

If it's any encouragement, my life has transformed. This time a year ago, this time two years ago, me and my life were pretty messed up to say the least. Actually, as far back as I can remember life hasn't exactly been great. If my life can get better so dramatically, so can yours.

I suppose I can spare a fluffle too.... ;) :p :fluffle:
Minoriteeburg
02-02-2006, 19:19
Could be better if i had a decent job right now, but besides that life is pretty sweet. Nice and 70 degrees in february. Not too used to that.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:19
That the first time you've come across a soppy rant from me to Huw? :p
I pity you either way ;) :p


You'd rather read about people being unhappy?

I don't mean to "rub it in". I was asked about my life, and Huw's a part of my life so he's involved in the response.

If it's any encouragement, my life has transformed. This time a year ago, this time two years ago, me and my life were pretty messed up to say the least. Actually, as far back as I can remember life hasn't exactly been great. If my life can get better so dramatically, so can yours.

I suppose I can spare a fluffle too.... ;) :p :fluffle: let them eat cake ;)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:20
Could be better if i had a decent job right now, but besides that life is pretty sweet. Nice and 70 degrees in february. Not too used to that.
-2 here in the UK
Nadkor
02-02-2006, 19:20
Not really. There are a few good things, but on the whole I'm just not happy. I know why, too, but I'm really just too scared to do anything about it. Don't really feel like saying much more than that today...
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 19:25
Okay Huw, I can't offer the same life-experience advice that other people in this thread have but you should know that I'll be here throughout. Whatever choice you make, I'll still love you. If you choose something with crap pay but which you enjoy, if you're happy, I'll be happy. If you choose something that takes a whole load of work and means you going back to Uni, if you're happy, I'll be happy. And regardless of whether you're happy or not, I'll still love you and do all that I can to help support you in any way that I can to try and help you be happy :fluffle:

I was going to say that I don't need you to be successful. But that's untrue. The thing is though, having a well-paid, high-flying job etc etc doesn't equal success in my eyes necessarily. I think you already are successful. You're successful in dealing with all the crap life hands you and coming out the other side. And you're successful in helping me enormously - for the last few months you've stopped me sinking back into depression each time I easily could have and that's an incredible thing to. When I'm ill like I am now, that always triggers depression with me, and it would have been so easy with coursework deadlines coming up, but you spun my mood around in less than a minute and prevented that from happening. I don't know quite how simply talking to you helps me that much, but it does. If giving someone hope for the future, giving them strength to get through each day and fight depression, and giving them new confidence in themselves isn't a success, I sure as hell don't know what is.

You are generally an amazing, caring, intelligent person and that's a success in itself.

If I ever can help in any way, you know I will. I mean, if you need help with maths, I'll be studying it next year and know it at GCSE level and can help you with it. If you need help with musical theory, I can brush up on my own and help you. (If you need someone to practice your cooking on, I'll glady agree ;) ) If you just need to talk to someone, either to get stress out or to think through your options with, I'll glady listen and offer my opinion. If you need help writing applications, or someone to prepare you for interviews, or someone to look through newspapers for jobs with, or someone to do searching abou courses for universities, or someone to give you a massage when you're stressed (:p), or pretty much anything else you can think of - I'll be there. I don't know how much I can help but I'll never pass the opportunity to try.

The advice I can give is that if you're not happy (which you aren't) you have to do something. I know it's not simple to carry that out, but it is a simple enough statement and it holds true. It isn't benefitting anyone for you to be suffering in a job you hate and if your parents realised how bad it was for you I doubt they'd want you to be this unhappy. Well done for taking the first step and talking to them; now you just have to continue being pro-active (heh, I'm such a hypocrite... :P). If you can't get them to listen when face-to-face, do what I've done in the past and write it all down. It'll get all you want to say out, stem a conversation and hopefully get you thinking about what you can do.

I'm starting to ramble on now so I'll stop in a second. Basically, you are in control of your life - your life doesn't control you. If you want things to change, you have to change. That doesn't make it easy or simple or make anything magically fit into place. But you can do this. I have every faith in you. And I mean that; without a doubt in my mind I can say that you have the potential to go far in life.

All the while, I'll be here, loving you regardless and offering my full support in any choice you make. Don't forget that.
:fluffle:

Hey Pure Metal-

This is the little lady you're talking about?

YOU HIT THE JACKPOT,MAN !!

You guys are going to do great together!

My best wishes to you both. ;)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
02-02-2006, 19:26
I've been screwing up my life for quite some time now, and I guess it speaks to my eternal optimism (and some supremely developed psychological repression skills) that I still only voted "could be better".
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:26
Not really. There are a few good things, but on the whole I'm just not happy. I know why, too, but I'm really just too scared to do anything about it. Don't really feel like saying much more than that today... What's up?
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 19:29
Not really. There are a few good things, but on the whole I'm just not happy. I know why, too, but I'm really just too scared to do anything about it. Don't really feel like saying much more than that today...

feel free to tg if you wanna talk. I'm good at listening.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:32
feel free to tg if you wanna talk. I'm good at listening. me too
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 19:32
This thread seems very popular

Its a good one-no arguments- its showing a more caring supportive side of NSrs.

I for one, like the good news threads, like to see people happy with themselves or working on it. Or helping others out,even if it is just words.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:32
Its a good one-no arguments- its showing a more caring supportive side of NSrs.

I for one, like the good news threads, like to see people happy with themselves or working on it. Or helping others out,even if it is just words.
agreed
Glitziness
02-02-2006, 19:34
Hey Pure Metal-

This is the little lady you're talking about?

YOU HIT THE JACKPOT,MAN !!

You guys are going to do great together!

My best wishes to you both. ;)
Hehe, thank you :D

edit: I was going to say "no, I hit the jackpot" but we both hit the jackpot to find each other when we're so perfectly suited for each other and can help each other so much
:fluffle:
German Nightmare
02-02-2006, 19:42
All things considered, life is good. I still had to chose "Could be better" for it can still improve from what it is right now.

About 7-8 months ago I would've clicked the 9th option - being still here and having improved 5 notches towards "Love it" I can't really complain. That's pretty much all I'm gonna say here, so carry on ;)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 19:44
I made the questions on poll sort of humorus and have just edited my info
Nadkor
02-02-2006, 19:46
feel free to tg if you wanna talk. I'm good at listening.
Thanks for the offer, but I really don't feel like talking about it. I've spoken about it on here before, just some days I feel like talking and some days I don't...
Carnivorous Lickers
02-02-2006, 19:56
Thanks for the offer, but I really don't feel like talking about it. I've spoken about it on here before, just some days I feel like talking and some days I don't...

Thats fine. If you do some other time, Ill listen.
Be well.
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 20:24
Hey Pure Metal-

This is the little lady you're talking about?

YOU HIT THE JACKPOT,MAN !!

You guys are going to do great together!

My best wishes to you both.
haha i know!! (she's just fantastic isn't she?) :D
now you see why i love her so much :-) (run out of smilies in massively long, smilie-filled post...)



As for my own life, I'm happy with it. It's far from perfect and so am I, but I get through it all okay, come out the other side having learnt something, and carry on. I try to make the right decisions, and I try to learn from mistakes. I do my best to help others, and I've come a long way in a short time with my relationships: I don't hold grudges anymore, I'm much more honest, I take more risks, I'm more comfortable with my friends, I seem to have got a good balance between being careful but also not mis-trustful and am generally far more healthy about relationships. I've grown a lot more confident about myself and am far more positive about myself and my future, largely due to Huw (fluffle). I still have plenty of flaws but I'm working on them. I still find school hard but I'm coping better with the stress and expectations. Soon enough I'll be out of compulsory education and able to have more control over my life. Family life isn't always great but it has improved.

And even if you get rid of all the other improvements in my life, the one huge improvement in my life counts for far more - Huw. Actually, I probably wouldn't see how good my life was if I didn't have Huw to help me deal with depression and help support me each and every day. My whole perspective and outlook seems to have changed just by knowing someone loves me, and a someone who's as fantastic as Huw. I can't thank him enough.

But in exactly 12 days time from now, I'll be with him at last to shower him in thanks! :P fluffle
and this is why i am so often astounded at your maturity :fluffle:
see... i told you that you do so much more than muddle-through *nods*

lets hope life keeps getting better for you - if i can have anything to do with it, thats what i'll be aiming for for you! i hate to think you still slip back into depression still, but i will continue to love you and care for you and do whatever i can to stop that or help you when you need it... so... lets make life better for each other (and it can only get better when we're together!) *hugs*


Okay Huw, I can't offer the same life-experience advice that other people in this thread have but you should know that I'll be here throughout. Whatever choice you make, I'll still love you. If you choose something with crap pay but which you enjoy, if you're happy, I'll be happy. If you choose something that takes a whole load of work and means you going back to Uni, if you're happy, I'll be happy. And regardless of whether you're happy or not, I'll still love you and do all that I can to help support you in any way that I can to try and help you be happy fluffle

you know that i could say the same to you... but you seem to have your plans a little more sorted in your head (something i both respect and envy you for :))
it is good to know you'll be there - at the moment i can't imagine my life without you in it and i can only see my future with you in it... and you know i just want to make you happy, so if you're happy that i'm happy (as i would be too for you of course :fluffle: ) then thats great to know :)
the matter of figuring out what will make me happy is still there, but its easier to think about the future if you're by my side in it :fluffle:

right now my favourite idea is to work at things here (and maybe go back to college and do more A-levels if necessary) for a couple of years and then go to uni with you... but thats a long way off for now and not having met yet... (12 days!! :D)


I was going to say that I don't need you to be successful. But that's untrue. The thing is though, having a well-paid, high-flying job etc etc doesn't equal success in my eyes necessarily. I think you already are successful. You're successful in dealing with all the crap life hands you and coming out the other side.

i'm not so sure about that... besides life doesn't really hand me crap: life is handed to me on a silver platter, in relative terms, and i make seem to crap out of it... but things are getting better


And you're successful in helping me enormously - for the last few months you've stopped me sinking back into depression each time I easily could have and that's an incredible thing to. When I'm ill like I am now, that always triggers depression with me, and it would have been so easy with coursework deadlines coming up, but you spun my mood around in less than a minute and prevented that from happening. I don't know quite how simply talking to you helps me that much, but it does. If giving someone hope for the future, giving them strength to get through each day and fight depression, and giving them new confidence in themselves isn't a success, I sure as hell don't know what is.

thats a sucess to be proud of!
seriously, you're the only thing i really care about at the moment :fluffle: and knowing i help you - and that i have your love - helps me get through tough times myself
perhaps i should care about myself, about my work and my life. i sure as hell care a lot more than i used to when i drank, smoke, did a small multitude of drugs on a daily basis and was eating myself to death. i realised i couldn't go on that way but, without those, for months my life seemed hollow - just work and no joy. you bring me joy, you give me reason to enjoy life... you just being you gives me reason, and for that i am immensely grateful (to say the least!) and i only want to return the help and love you give me. if i do (and it seems i do!), then thats great because we're there for- and help each other :fluffle:
(we really do belong together, no? :P)


If I ever can help in any way, you know I will. I mean, if you need help with maths, I'll be studying it next year and know it at GCSE level and can help you with it. If you need help with musical theory, I can brush up on my own and help you. (If you need someone to practice your cooking on, I'll glady agree ) If you just need to talk to someone, either to get stress out or to think through your options with, I'll glady listen and offer my opinion. If you need help writing applications, or someone to prepare you for interviews, or someone to look through newspapers for jobs with, or someone to do searching abou courses for universities, or someone to give you a massage when you're stressed, or pretty much anything else you can think of - I'll be there. I don't know how much I can help but I'll never pass the opportunity to try.

hehe you probably are better at maths than me, and i did my gcse's in it already (i suck :P)
but thank you, and once again... it means a lot to me that you care enough to want to help

see, this is why she makes my life better *nods*
this is why my life is getting better every day :fluffle:

and you know, again, that i can only hope to offer the same unequivocal help to you


The advice I can give is that if you're not happy (which you aren't) you have to do something. I know it's not simple to carry that out, but it is a simple enough statement and it holds true. It isn't benefitting anyone for you to be suffering in a job you hate and if your parents realised how bad it was for you I doubt they'd want you to be this unhappy. Well done for taking the first step and talking to them; now you just have to continue being pro-active (heh, I'm such a hypocrite... :P). If you can't get them to listen when face-to-face, do what I've done in the past and write it all down. It'll get all you want to say out, stem a conversation and hopefully get you thinking about what you can do.

oh i'm not impossibly unhappy with life and work really - as i say, i'm an awful lot happier here doing this than i was at uni suffering clinical depression. besides, you only hear me ranting about the negative sides of the work... there are positives, i'm sure... *thinks* like working from home and being able to sleep till 9 or 10 every morning, thats a plus. and i do get to develop some interesting products that are currently bringing in quite a lot of money (awful lot of work though)
so there are good points... but day by day, generally i can't stand it and wish i were doing something else. problem is i've never done anything else - i've been working for my parents since i was about 14 and, bar a brief stint in mcdonald's, this is all i know in terms of work. makes it all the more scary to change to anything else. but i can talk to you about this more on msn...
Stone Bridges
02-02-2006, 20:31
Eh, my life is ok. I'm almost done with undergrad, and I'll be going to graduate school soon. I have a great family, and good friends. I'm able to enjoy my hobby of flying and aviation. However, I sill come home to an empty place, so yea I'm lonely. I have a good life, but I want someone to share it with.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 20:35
Eh, my life is ok. I'm almost done with undergrad, and I'll be going to graduate school soon. I have a great family, and good friends. I'm able to enjoy my hobby of flying and aviation. However, I sill come home to an empty place, so yea I'm lonely. I have a good life, but I want someone to share it with.
nice one
DrunkenDove
02-02-2006, 20:37
I don't really like my life as is at the moment, but it's not too uncomfortable and has it's good points and plenty of potential. So overall, not bad.
Stone Bridges
02-02-2006, 20:38
nice one

yea, just being honest.
Glitziness
02-02-2006, 20:41
-snip-
:eek: hehe :p
Rather than try and reply to that and maintain the ability to try and say I don't hijack threads, I'll just talk to you on msn :p *hugs*
*is smiley* I love you... :)
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 20:42
yea, just being honest. best way
THE LOST PLANET
02-02-2006, 20:55
Everyone above me on my family tree is dead, except maybe my natural father who ran out when I was three. My attempt at the American dream of owning my own buisiness died a horrible death, choking in red ink. I've been hit by cars five times. I've been assaulted and beaten to an extent requiring hospitalization three times. My marraige was horrible, my divorce worse. A bulldozer claimed the farm I grew up on years ago. I live in 300 square feet in one of the worst parts of town and my car is currently leaking oil like the Exxon Valdeze.


Life is great.

Seriously, I love it. It's cold and grey outside today and I can't wait to get outside on my bike. There's a world of opportunities out there waiting. I'll probably be bloodied and hurt many more times in this life, but I'll always get up and go looking for more. If the were no challenges in life it wouldn't be worth living. I've lost everything a couple of times and I've always bounced back, each time a little richer in experience and with a couple of more interesting stories to tell. Bring it on.

Life is great.
Wildwolfden
02-02-2006, 20:56
Everyone above me on my family tree is dead, except maybe my natural father who ran out when I was three. My attempt at the American dream of owning my own buisiness died a horrible death, choking in red ink. I've been hit by cars five times. I've been assaulted and beaten to an extent requiring hospitalization three times. My marraige was horrible, my divorce worse. A bulldozer claimed the farm I grew up on years ago. I live in 300 square feet in one of the worst parts of town and my car is currently leaking oil like the Exxon Valdeze.


Life is great.

Seriously, I love it. It's cold and grey outside today and I can't wait to get outside on my bike. There's a world of opportunities out there waiting. I'll probably be bloodied and hurt many more times in this life, but I'll always get up and go looking for more. If the were no challenges in life it wouldn't be worth living. I've lost everything a couple of times and I've always bounced back, each time a little richer in experience and with a couple of more interesting stories to tell. Bring it on.

Life is great. Good
The Black Forrest
02-02-2006, 21:08
Who are you? The Ghost of Christmas Present?
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 23:08
:eek: hehe :p
Rather than try and reply to that and maintain the ability to try and say I don't hijack threads, I'll just talk to you on msn :p *hugs*
*is smiley* I love you... :)
i/we don't hijack threads... honest... http://www.ironmaiden.org/images/smilies/extras/eusa_shifty.gif
The blessed Chris
02-02-2006, 23:20
Since the tone is increasing in happiness, I feel it is my turn to interject a little self-placating depression.

Firstly, I loathe the school I am at, really and truly I do. Whilst it happens to be the best in the country as a state sixth form, the social life therein is awful, moreso now that my best friend has elected to attend the college in town. Essentially, I have a choice of sorts, leave or stay, however my ambition (supreme for those who don't know, we're talking millionaire affluence and status, noted academic and politician) compels me to remain. Dilemma number 1.

Moreover, at the age of 16 I truly do not know who I am. Thoroughly regrettable I know, but I still seek something to espouse, to belong to. I sincerely believe that this has an awful amount to do with my inherent insecurity, however I am unsure as to who, and what, I truly am.

A sincere cry for help here...:(
Kazcaper
02-02-2006, 23:31
Firstly, I loathe the school I am at, really and truly I do. Whilst it happens to be the best in the country as a state sixth form, the social life therein is awful, moreso now that my best friend has elected to attend the college in town. Essentially, I have a choice of sorts, leave or stay, however my ambition (supreme for those who don't know, we're talking millionaire affluence and status, noted academic and politician) compels me to remain. Dilemma number 1.I had a roughly similar problem. I utterly despised school, but ended up staying for sixth form due, at least in part, to its well-regarded status. Furthermore, it was a case of "better the devil you know" - I could have hated another school/college equally, or more. At least I knew what to expect where I was, and as it turned out, I enjoyed my sixth form years.

I suspect that had I left, I would probably still have gone on to university, but it's certainly debatable as to whether I'd have gone on to do postgraduate work (school instilled a thirst for knowledge in me despite its problems, whereas my undergraduate degree did not. Luckily that thirst stuck with me despite this). As I said earlier on this thread, I don't know if all this education is going to do me any good, but I'm still glad I've done it; it's personal satisfaction, a sense of achievement, if nothing else.

In short: there's only another two years before you leave school. If you can manage to deal with that without going completely mad, I personally would elect to do so. However, if another two years is going to make you unbearably miserable, then you may be advised to move. Misery leads to lack of motivation, which of course won't help your long term goal anyway. Ultimately, if you have enough drive and the appropriate skills, it should not matter what school you attended.

Moreover, at the age of 16 I truly do not know who I am. Thoroughly regrettable I know, but I still seek something to espouse, to belong to. I sincerely believe that this has an awful amount to do with my inherent insecurity, however I am unsure as to who, and what, I truly am.I don't want to sound patonising, but again speaking from personal experience, I would say you learn to live with that kind of thing. In a way, a lack of a specific identity is my identity and now, at the age of 22, I'm quite happy with that.

Of course, on both points, I only speak for myself, so your situations may be entirely different. I wish you good luck whatever the case :)
Jewish Media Control
02-02-2006, 23:32
There's nothing quite like positivity. When life sucks, it's you, not them.
Jewish Media Control
02-02-2006, 23:38
Firstly, I loathe the school I am at

I attended over 15 schools while growing up. It was tough and I loathed each new school, but guess what. Now that it's over with I realize that I'm stronger because of it. And as for not knowing who you are at age 16, big deal. You're still growing into yourself. Nothing to worry about. We all have similar experiences one way or another. Hang in there.
Lionstone
02-02-2006, 23:45
Life?

Its fantastic.

I am 18, at university, Drinking far more than is good for me and doing stupid things on a regular basis, I have good freinds and a healthy dose of mindless optimism.

Yeah, I love it.
AtheistsRsinners
02-02-2006, 23:50
Well ? I love mine and I am living it to the full

Age 37 'Old enough to know better young enough to learn'

Sex 'Yes please' Male

Eyes Brown 'Short Sighted' wear eye wear

Hair Brown 'no grey as yet'

Star Sign Pisces 'Filly Wishes'

Chinese Zodiac Sign Monkey 'nuts'

Status Married 'poor wife'

Other Information I have a disability called Muscular Dystrophy I have the Becker type and I am a full time electric wheelchair user. I was diognosed in 1977 age 9. I went into an electric wheelchair at age 15. I did a B.A. Hons Fine Art Degree at Staffordshire University from 1991 to 94 and got a 2.1. I have been married to Sheil since the 6th of March 2000 also my Birthday.


Dude, congradulations. That is amazing. Maybe I'm just used to walking around and all, but I don't see how that would do anything but suck for me. Statement of fact as to how I would feel nothing more.

That is really inspiring and I think I'm going to register you in my memory as an example in case any debates about what people need to be happy come up.
Pure Metal
02-02-2006, 23:50
Since the tone is increasing in happiness, I feel it is my turn to interject a little self-placating depression.

Firstly, I loathe the school I am at, really and truly I do. Whilst it happens to be the best in the country as a state sixth form, the social life therein is awful, moreso now that my best friend has elected to attend the college in town. Essentially, I have a choice of sorts, leave or stay, however my ambition (supreme for those who don't know, we're talking millionaire affluence and status, noted academic and politician) compels me to remain. Dilemma number 1.

Moreover, at the age of 16 I truly do not know who I am. Thoroughly regrettable I know, but I still seek something to espouse, to belong to. I sincerely believe that this has an awful amount to do with my inherent insecurity, however I am unsure as to who, and what, I truly am.

A sincere cry for help here...:(
interesting people are full of conflict... internal conflict... intelligent people, too... people who think about issues and are really self-aware. thats a positive point if you ask me, cos its better to be interesting and smart than dumb but happy (imo)

but i can empathise with your situation. first off: stay in college. you have a great opportunity there going to a good school, so make the most of it and keep plodding on as best you can. as long as you're not failing modules and the like you can probably relax a bit and let yourself recoup emotionally, which i'm sure will help. maybe you could get more involved in the social life then, too (i don't know your situation... just trying to help)

second off you're not alone in that. i went to uni and i kept searching for who i was... kept reinventing myself as to who i wanted to be and never allowing myself to be who i actually was. ended up getting very depressed chasing something i wasn't.
you don't have to *be* anyone or anything but yourself... seriously. i wish i could expand on that but i'm only just beginning to understand it myself... hope you can see some sense in it though
Saige Dragon
03-02-2006, 00:43
Moreover, at the age of 16 I truly do not know who I am. Thoroughly regrettable I know, but I still seek something to espouse, to belong to. I sincerely believe that this has an awful amount to do with my inherent insecurity, however I am unsure as to who, and what, I truly am.

That is part of life. Not knowing who you are and living life chasing to find out. I'm nearly 18, I don't know who I am and probably never fully will. Every year, month, week, day I find out something new about myself. Two months ago, if you'd ask me about hip-hop and rap music I'd say it sucks. Now I've got like 150 songs or so on my iPod that are rap. That is what makes life exciting, discovering your identity. I still listen to punk and rock and I love it but I find I also do have a soft-side for other things, things I never thought I would. Being unsure of yourself and who you are is what makes you and me and everybody else human. It will never stop; it is a life long adventure.

As for what I think of life, hell I love life. What could be better? What could be worse? Nothing, because to me life is all there is. There is no point in getting down on yourself because guess what; you've got it all! What could be better than the gift of life? Nothing comes to mind for me. Life is an oppertunity with infinite possibilities. So what if I nearly failed Math 30. It is not like sinusoidal functions and conics are the be all and end all of high school. Hell, it is not like school and a job are the be all and end all of life. People say that to be happy with life you need a successful job, a good marriage or something along those lines. That is completely untrue. To be happy with life you have to accept what you have and realize that you can change what you have, maybe not everything, but you can change at least something. By changing that something, it may open doors for more change for more happiness. By growing and changing and constantly searching for who we are from birth to death, from when we are given life to when we have to give it back, is what allows a person to be happy with life. We are all artists, life just happens to be our ever changing work.

Just my take on it.;)
WesternPA
03-02-2006, 00:44
I used to love mine till I got hit with something totally unexpected and been wrestling in making a decision.
Avynne
03-02-2006, 03:39
Hell, I figure you guys are really sweet, understanding people, so I'll post my little story and see if I can get any advice. I just really want to get this off my chest to someone other than my psychologist, I suppose.

I'm 16 now, and ever since I was a kid, my parents fought off and on. My dad worked late into the night, and even when he was home, he was constantly on the computer. I always stived to be the perfect little girl so he would want to be home more often. Then, when I was nine, I began to develop a fairly severe depression. Being so young, however, I felt as if I had no reason to be depressed, and I (please don't think badly of me for this...) actively tried to get my father to rape me. I was sick in the head, I know. One day in February two years ago, I came across a conversation between him and another woman online. I kept it a secret, but I noticed every little thing he did (shutting down his laptop completely even when he would only be gone for a second, closing windows on the computer quickly when someone walked by, etc.).

In April, he left, claiming that his unemployment was putting too much strain on the family. I later discovered he had several affairs during the marriage, had a daughter with another woman that I and my brothers knew nothing about. He also claimed to be living with his parents in a nearby town, when, in fact, he went to live with another woman and her three children directly after leaving us. He owes us over $9,000 in child support, and we lost our house because we didn't have enough money. Needless to say, my brothers and I no longer speak with him except when he calls once every three or four months and is rejected yet again.

Meanwhile, my depression continued to become worse as the years went on, and I developed obsessive compulsive disorder, mild anorexia, and a passion for self-injury and compulsive lying. After two relationships with boys to "turn myself straight" (one of which forced me to do things sexually that I didn't want to, and got an STD because of it). I finally came out to my mother as a lesbian, and it went badly. She allowed me to date a girl, however, and it was great at first. But she was depressed as well, and she tried to kill herself four or five times in the eight months we dated, which devastated me. Just last week, I hated to do it but I broke off all contact with her because she was pulling me down with her. And now I'm... here.

I've been going to therapy weekly for four months now, and I was diagnosed bipolar by a psychiatrist and put on Zoloft five weeks ago. Things have improved slightly in my life, but I still have a long way to go...
Wildwolfden
03-02-2006, 12:20
Share the love
Pure Metal
03-02-2006, 12:27
-snip-

wow, that sounds hard :(
(almost makes me feel guilty for having been depressed over nothing myself:()

family is so important in our lives, and its amazing what effec they can have on us, for good or bad
Peisandros
03-02-2006, 12:31
Like it sometimes, love it other times and hate it the rest of the time. It's a bag of lollies life (or box of chocolates), you never know what you're going to get.
Harlesburg
03-02-2006, 12:33
I want 'you' to kill me actually.
Then i want you to rot in prison.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-02-2006, 12:36
What's not to like?

I'm reasonably young. I have a little boy that keeps me on my toes. I have a sexually adventurous wife. I like my job. And I've cultivated a lifestyle that allows me do act like a fucking nutcase and not get locked up.

The only thing that could make my life better is a bunch of money or my own TV show. :)
Kanabia
03-02-2006, 12:38
What's not to like?

I'm reasonably young. I have a little boy that keeps me on my toes. I have a sexually adventurous wife. I like my job. And I've cultivated a lifestyle that allows me do act like a fucking nutcase and not get locked up.

The only thing that could make my life better is a bunch of money or my own TV show. :)

Set up a paypal donation thingy.
Post a thread here about your TV show.
Solicit donations.

Your life will be complete. :D
Europa Maxima
03-02-2006, 12:41
Like it sometimes, love it other times and hate it the rest of the time. It's a bag of lollies life (or box of chocolates), you never know what you're going to get.
Too true. Sometimes though I do wonder if its even worth it... :rolleyes: Today I just got another wonderful "life experience" with £400 of my account disappearing. :mad: :headbang: Well, I'll get it back soon enough.

Hope things get better for you Avynne.
Wildwolfden
03-02-2006, 12:59
I want 'you' to kill me actually.
Then i want you to rot in prison. that is nice :eek:
Yurgimyi
03-02-2006, 14:30
I've seen better days...
Wildwolfden
03-02-2006, 15:49
not bad odds on 12 people want to die, and 7 want to be shot :sniper: ;)
BackwoodsSquatches
03-02-2006, 15:53
The only thing that could make my life better is a bunch of money or my own TV show. :)


Why not do both?
Europa Maxima
03-02-2006, 15:55
Why not do both?
Do we really need another rich, "eccentric" (some might say psycho) person on TV though? :p Isn't Paris Hilton bad enough?
The Firefly Tatsu
03-02-2006, 16:02
Every action we take has consequences.

If you have an honorable discharge, you're miles ahead of those with less than honorable ones. Let me know if you'd like some help with finding a job. Usually it's not nearly as difficult as we build it up to be in our minds. I've been unemployed several times and it sucks, but there are lots of techniques you can use to help speed the process.

Well, being of a free mind should not have resulted in the DoD labeling me with a "Personality Disorder" in order ot ship me off quickly. I will take any and all help in a job hunt as I am currently sitting here unemployed. My AFSC was 2e171, Satellite, Wideband, and Telemetry Systems Craftsman.

I will be adding my messenger handles to my profile if you would rather tlak that way instead of emailing or getting into details in a thread that I do no intend to highjack.

My thanks in advance.
Eutrusca
03-02-2006, 16:03
... in exactly 12 days time from now, I'll be with him [ Huw ] at last to shower him in thanks! :p :fluffle:
Why not just thank him in the shower instead? D:
America of Tomorrow
03-02-2006, 16:06
No. No, I don't.
Eutrusca
03-02-2006, 16:08
It should have gone something like this

Cancer.... attention!

On the command of fall out, fall out and fall back in on Paris Hilton.

Fall out!


Aynway, as for life I'd have to say that it could be worse. It's been kinda hard adjusting from being active duty military to being a student. What always helps is thinking "Well, at least I haven't been shot at in a while".

My personal philosophy is that you shouldn't worry about the things you have no control over. If a problem comes up, figure out a way to fix it. If you can't fix it, figure out what you can do, and then do that. Worrying and whining doesn't help at all. And if there is absolutely nothing to do about it, all you can do is just roll with it, right?
[ In best Arlee Ermy voice ] You need to get your act together, maggot! Any failure to get your act together will result in my getting majorly pissed off! You do NOT want to piss me off, troop! Upon the command of "Get your act together" you will immediately proceed to get your frakking act together! I trust that someone with even your limited attention span can comprehend that!

Troop! Attention!

Get your act together! :D
Wildwolfden
03-02-2006, 16:08
No. No, I don't. but why ?
Pure Metal
03-02-2006, 16:11
Why not just thank him in the shower instead? D:
i like your thinking my man... :D

if only she wasn't 15... :(
Eutrusca
03-02-2006, 16:13
haha well i really don't know what else to say...
besides, i am supposed to be working right about now :p

i suppose i could say that i want to do something creative and what i'm doing right now really isn't... something like photography (current favourite), architecture (4 year degree on top of the 2 i already wasted at uni, plus probably don't have the qualifications or mathematical ability), music production (no clue about music theory and dyslexic - makes it really hard to learn, and working musical theory is a required qualification/a-level for most uni degrees in it), cooking/chef (but commercial kitchens are so fucking stressful), and then the stupid ones that are as impossible to make a living out of as saying you want to be a rock-star: artist of some sort, novelist... that sort of thing.

its all a big load of toss really, and the easiest thing to do is to just stay here doing something i don't really like but at least getting paid and having support and food (and, soon, a drum kit woot!)

edit: so the question is: how to decide between those? each one will require some kind of training or going back to school, so i can only really commit to one...
You're how old? You've got plenty of time to try this:

Pick the one most attractive to you. Devote your non-working time to studying it, becoming proficient in it, making yourself into an expert at it. All while networking with people who are already doing what you have chosen. At some point, if you have patience and a bit of real talent, those you have met during your networking will begin to realize that and begin to mention you to others, at least one of whom will make you an offer. Far better to have others sing your praises than to "toot your own horn." :D
Eutrusca
03-02-2006, 16:15
i like your thinking my man... :D

if only she wasn't 15... :(
LOL! Oops! Well, at least it makes for a nice fantasy for you to plan converting into reality as soon as she's "legal!" :D
Glitziness
03-02-2006, 16:32
LOL! Oops! Well, at least it makes for a nice fantasy for you to plan converting into reality as soon as she's "legal!" :D
You think we haven't already thought of that? ;) :D

only 52 days... :fluffle: and only 11 days 'til we meet! :)
Europa Maxima
03-02-2006, 16:37
haha well i really don't know what else to say...
besides, i am supposed to be working right about now

i suppose i could say that i want to do something creative and what i'm doing right now really isn't... something like photography (current favourite), architecture (4 year degree on top of the 2 i already wasted at uni, plus probably don't have the qualifications or mathematical ability), music production (no clue about music theory and dyslexic - makes it really hard to learn, and working musical theory is a required qualification/a-level for most uni degrees in it), cooking/chef (but commercial kitchens are so fucking stressful), and then the stupid ones that are as impossible to make a living out of as saying you want to be a rock-star: artist of some sort, novelist... that sort of thing.

I am going through that too now; spent a year of doing Law, which I hate, and now I've decided to change to Economics, which I at least enjoy. Of course, my ideal job would be a writer, so I am gonna still give that a try, as well as getting my degree to ensure me a job. I've learnt though that doing something you don't like is a waste of both time and money. Luckily I realised it sooner than later.
Wildwolfden
03-02-2006, 16:44
Thank you for your interest
WesternPA
03-02-2006, 22:56
*snip*

I'm sorry to hear this. This is bigger than my problems.

I'll keep you in my prayers Avynne.
Maraque
03-02-2006, 23:00
It absolutely SUCKS.
Europa alpha
03-02-2006, 23:05
Its ok.
But its not.
yes.
no.

Gf is uberosuxxor depressed this makes me go :(
Friends are Uberoamazingly happy this makes me go :)
Work going very well this makes me go :)
Gf attempts CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED this makes me go :(

SOooo all in all im :) :( :) :(
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 13:07
It absolutely SUCKS. sorry to hear that but why?
Pure Metal
04-02-2006, 14:01
You're how old? You've got plenty of time to try this:

Pick the one most attractive to you. Devote your non-working time to studying it, becoming proficient in it, making yourself into an expert at it. All while networking with people who are already doing what you have chosen. At some point, if you have patience and a bit of real talent, those you have met during your networking will begin to realize that and begin to mention you to others, at least one of whom will make you an offer. Far better to have others sing your praises than to "toot your own horn." :D
20. 21 in may. and i suppose you're right... the real trouble is i want to do them all, not just one :p
the one that's most attractive changes at least weekly...
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 19:38
Thanks PM
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 19:41
@Wildwolfden: I'm just curious as to why you always have threads that are like: Do You Like Your Life?, What Online Games do You Play?, or Where are You From?.

I'm just wondering if this is just general inquisition or if you're collecting statistics or something.
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 19:45
@Wildwolfden: I'm just curious as to why you always have threads that are like: Do You Like Your Life?, What Online Games do You Play?, or Where are You From?.

I'm just wondering if this is just general inquisition or if you're collecting statistics or something.
Just being friendly :) no hidden agenda :eek:
Pure Metal
04-02-2006, 19:57
Thanks PM
what did i do? *shiftyeyes* :p
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 20:00
what did i do? *shiftyeyes* :p nothing you just joined in ;)
Mariehamn
04-02-2006, 20:13
Just being friendly :) no hidden agenda :eek:
Okay, cool.

Because if you were researching us for a university study or something, I thought we should know.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I dunno if I posted here before, but life's pretty good. I like it.
Pure Metal
04-02-2006, 20:14
nothing you just joined in ;)
oh, fair enough... my pleasure :fluffle:
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 20:15
Okay, cool.

Because if you were researching us for a university study or something, I thought we should know.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I dunno if I posted here before, but life's pretty good. I like it. just for fun
Wildwolfden
04-02-2006, 20:15
oh, fair enough... my pleasure :fluffle: cool
Missgwish
09-02-2006, 00:38
Make him suspect that you're thinking about leaving him. That's like a dash of cold water in the face! Just do it very subtlely, or you may get more than you bargained for. :)

You kno i sorta tried that but he gets super paranoid and i'm afraid he'll hurt himself, not in a suicidal or physical way but he gets like that he tends to lean hard on 'other substances'. i love him too much to let him do that and so we go in circles.:headbang:
Cameroi
09-02-2006, 00:46
let me put it this way; i'd be a hell of a lot happier living in the kind of world i'd rather be living in, more useful to everyone else and a hell of a lot prouder to be.

and i certainly wouldn't be living in a country (the u.s.) i've almost never been other then ashaimed of.

really my own life is only meaningful as the window through which i view the tangable world that surrounds it.

i don't have any major complaints with living, nor with my own priorities nor with what i see as the probable consiquences of them were they more popular.

but i do have real gripes with what i see as the real consiquences of the priorities that do seem to be most popular, especialy the kind of world resaulting from the incentives they collectively create.

i'm not a saint or even totaly an altruist, but i don't see the world i live in as being about me, but i do see the mutual coerciveness of human society as creating the vast majority of the conditions each of us individualy experience.

=^^=
.../\...
Linthiopia
09-02-2006, 00:48
Very happy with my life, on the whole.
Since the OP did it:

Age: Late Teens, I like to say.

Sex: Male

Eyes: Brown

Hair: Brown

Star Sign: Libra

Chinese Zodiac Sign: Uhm?

Status: Serious dating, no engagement/marriage as of yet.