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Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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Does God have a personality?

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Why and how?

How and why?


People seem to be of the opinion that God "does stuff", as if he were
some "person" with a mind to "do stuff".

If he "wants" to "do stuff" then he has INTENT on doing it.

If he "wants" anything (including to "do stuff") then he exhibits a
PERSONALITY.

I'm of the opinion that he neither has intent to do anything at all, and has no
personality whatsoever, because if he did then the universe would be a
nonsensical place.

Yet I believe firmly and completely in the existence of God, as a non-
intentional and non-personality-having thing.

I happen to KNOW that I'm right in my belief (primarily because it's useful to
me and utterly impossible to disprove).

What is wrong with you goof-balls who believe otherwise..? :)


-Iakeo

Does God have a personality?

Yes ... a rather playful silly one.

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Of course.

Why and how?

Much of that is not for us to know. God generally only gives us the Where and the Who, but never the Why and the How.

What is wrong with you goof-balls who believe otherwise..? :)

I smoke pot.

God sits around for 99,999,999,999ect (musnt spam..) a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time
gets bored says "...i shall make a universe."
Bang universe made huzzah.
God plays Keepy-ups with universe.
God does this for another eternity or two and gets bored "... I shall fill the universe with this rock so it makes a noise when im playing with it."
God shakes the universe and the rock explodes. BANG
"Oh no!"
But it turns out the universe actually sounds better with lots of little rocks.
God plays for another eternity or two.
You get the idea ;p

Does God have a gender? If God is male, does He have a beard? If female, does She shave her crotch?

And Lo having found the universe sounds better like this *(yes im back)* god gets bored eventually.
"I shall create numerous paradoxes and oxymorons with which to amuse myself."
And thus the Clever Republican was born.
"Because opposites attract i shall create another paradox with which this one can mate."
And thus the Rude Englishman was born.
"And lo, because i am a strange and unpredictable god i shall create lots of animals which in case the Paradoxes get bored of eachother shall CENSORED with."
And god thus satisfied with his work decided to sit and watch everyone fuck everything up.

God is all of the above, plus all of the below. Plus a dimension that I can't even consider and I can consider a lot.

I've always gone with the blind men and the elephant story. I've got the part of the elephant that says "cheerful old grandfather with a beard" and so long as I recognise thats not all that God is, I figure I'm onto a good thing.

So yeah: God is father christmas. Definite personality there.

Finally, when god was bored with existance and all the humans and aliens had decided he didnt exist. God put his plaything on the shelf which he created and decided to sit and think about things for another eternity or so.
Then he rained fire and death upon the peaceful Hybrid race of the universe and harvested there souls because he was hungry. It tasted like chicken.
And then because he was a merciful god he did save all the kittens and place them in a little box.

He's either got a twisted sense of humor or he's a mean son of a bitch.

God is the _Supreme_ Personality. what are our personalities but small droplets from His ocean!?

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

imo, you need to expand your horizons.

imo, God is all that exists, ever existed, and ever will exist. that's a whole lotta God, ye think? since He's everything, draw your conclusions from that. you're limiting the limitless. expand your mind.

But lo, the box didnt have airholes so god cried. The end.
really.

If god is omnipotent, omniscient, and utterly perfect, it can't have intentions because then it would have unrealized potential.

Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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according to the bible... yes. Old testament, kinda an authorativtive asshole. But he becomes more of a spiritual guider, more family friendly in the new testament.

God is a paranoid, self-centred, sociopathic, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, petulant child smashing up his dollhouse. According to the Old Testament, anyway.

God likes to futz around with the world.
And then he got bored and went to find a new toy to play with.
Deists.

Does God have a gender? If God is male, does He have a beard? If female, does She shave her crotch?

Either way, there is a thong involved.

I happen to KNOW that I'm right in my belief (primarily because it's useful to
me and utterly impossible to disprove).



If that isn't a dumbass justification.

Of course he has a personality. He is a Loving, Caring God. And is male. And has a peculiar sense of humor, which I shall show in some examples:

1. Haman (boo!): Hanged on the gallows he built for Mordechai (yay!) (note: if you are practicing Jewish you understand the parentheses)
2. Pompey: violated the Holy of Holies, God uses Caesar, Caesar tortures sons, Pompey killed by backstabbing Egyptians.
3. Hitler: The man who wanted to euthanize anyone who did not have 'perfection' had only one male organ, instead of the standard two.
4. Me: Didn't go to synagogue and pray and stayed home to play Red Alert 2. Soviet disk breaks in the disk drive. I go to disk area and find the Allied disk crushed by the Diablo box, and then the Yuri disk, while sitting on the desk, gets thrown up upon by the cat, and is never usable again.

Ergo, God exists, and has a sense of humor.

1. Haman (boo!):

You're not allowed to say that without having some whiskey. It's the codified law of the Meggilah Drinking Game.

Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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Does God have a personality?
I like to think he does.

My computer has a personality, too.

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Why and how?

How and why?
If god is/has a mind, is conscious and has any concept of a viewpoint, then he would also have will and intentions. God, as such, as mind, stands in opposition to nature (goddess), which is mindless and intentless, responsive to stimuli.

I recogize that split-god image as an image of god, the myth of duality of body and spirit. I tend more towards thinking of god as nothing more than his self. That's all he need be. I can do the rest.

You're not allowed to say that without having some whiskey. It's the codified law of the Meggilah Drinking Game.

I do not recognize the codified law of the Meggilah Drinking Game.

Vegetarianistica']imo, you need to expand your horizons.

imo, God is all that exists, ever existed, and ever will exist. that's a whole lotta God, ye think? since He's everything, draw your conclusions from that. you're limiting the limitless. expand your mind.
Actually, you limited it ...to existence.

If God is all that exists, ever existed, and ever will exist, then god is not supernatural.

Actually, you limited it ...to existence.

If God is all that exists, ever existed, and ever will exist, then god is not supernatural.

That doesn't make sense. He exists but is supernatural.

That doesn't make sense. He exists but is supernatural.
Then you've limited him. The supernatural is the unknown. In order to be truly supernatual, god's existence must also be unknown.

No I haven't...if God can become flesh, which the Torah shows He can, then He must exist in some fashion.

I do not recognize the codified law of the Meggilah Drinking Game.

Heathen!

? I think you mean "heretic" although I would not consider myself such. Heathen means I am not a member of a religion of a monotheistic God, such as Islam, Judaism, or Christianity. Heretic means I am a member but I have irreconcilable differences with you.

Meh. Yes, I am to be a professor.

Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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Does God have a personality?

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Why and how?

How and why?


People seem to be of the opinion that God "does stuff", as if he were
some "person" with a mind to "do stuff".

If he "wants" to "do stuff" then he has INTENT on doing it.

If he "wants" anything (including to "do stuff") then he exhibits a
PERSONALITY.

I'm of the opinion that he neither has intent to do anything at all, and has no
personality whatsoever, because if he did then the universe would be a
nonsensical place.

Yet I believe firmly and completely in the existence of God, as a non-
intentional and non-personality-having thing.

I happen to KNOW that I'm right in my belief (primarily because it's useful to
me and utterly impossible to disprove).

What is wrong with you goof-balls who believe otherwise..? :)


-Iakeo

Which god - Yahweh, Jupiter, Zeus, Dagda, Apollo, Baldur - any one of a multitude of gods all over the world (and possibly on other planets)?

And why not goddess(es)

Tell me!

Vegetarianistica' #10]imo, you need to expand your horizons.

imo, God is all that exists, ever existed, and ever will exist. that's a whole lotta God, ye think? since He's everything, draw your conclusions from that. you're limiting the limitless. expand your mind.

FINALLY,.. someone worth answering..!!

I agree with you.

You can't limit the limitless. By definition, actually, you can't limit the
limitless, so there.

Even expanding my mind won't do it.

We must simply accept that the limitless, which we have no way to wrap our
mind's around, is indeed limitless, whether that limitless-thing actually exists
or not.

Therefore, it's existence is secondary, in fact irrelevant, to whether we
can "get" this limitless-thing (God), so arguing about whether it does actually
exist is an excercise in silliness, and once that is grasped by any one of us,
should prompt us to STOP ARGUING ABOUT SUCH SILLY THINGS..!

..except as an instrument to "prod" the "young and foolish" into figuring out
for themselves that that argument is indeed silly.

Which is the point.

Don't argue about the silly parts of God, such as whether he exists or not, as
God by definition simply defies definition. Instead, argue about what God is
good for..!!

Arguing about what God is "BAD for" is really a restatement of the argument
as to whether God exists, because it presumes that if God didn't exist
the "badness of God" would go away, which has nothing to do with the utility
of God.

I find God useful. But I only find him useful if he posseses no intention, and
therefore no personality.

Assigning God a personality (an intent "to do" based on "want") literally makes
the universe such a silly place (as many of the responses to this thread
show) that God would not be useful,.. and as God IS useful (to me), I'm
forced to conclude that God has no intent or personality.


-Iakeo

If god is omnipotent, omniscient, and utterly perfect, it can't have intentions because then it would have unrealized potential.

Excellent..!!

And "unrealized potential" would make him (it) non-perfect..!

Why would unrealized potential make something non-perfect?

But is that true?


-Iakeo

I often spend about 30 minutes a week staring at a wall attempting to comprehend infinite space-time, pre-time, and junk like that.

I find it relaxing.

Originally Posted by Deiakeos
I happen to KNOW that I'm right in my belief (primarily because it's useful to
me and utterly impossible to disprove).

If that isn't a dumbass justification.

I believe in God for the same exact reason that I believe in knives.

I *KNOW* that knives are useful to me.

I *KNOW* that it is utterly impossible to disprove that knives AREN'T useful
to me (and also that it's impossible to prove that knives don't exist).

Therefore, I *KNOW) that I'm right in my belief in knives.

How is that a "dumbass justification"?


-Iakeo

Of course he has a personality. He is a Loving, Caring God. And is male. And has a peculiar sense of humor, which I shall show in some examples:

1. Haman (boo!): Hanged on the gallows he built for Mordechai (yay!) (note: if you are practicing Jewish you understand the parentheses)
2. Pompey: violated the Holy of Holies, God uses Caesar, Caesar tortures sons, Pompey killed by backstabbing Egyptians.
3. Hitler: The man who wanted to euthanize anyone who did not have 'perfection' had only one male organ, instead of the standard two.
4. Me: Didn't go to synagogue and pray and stayed home to play Red Alert 2. Soviet disk breaks in the disk drive. I go to disk area and find the Allied disk crushed by the Diablo box, and then the Yuri disk, while sitting on the desk, gets thrown up upon by the cat, and is never usable again.

Ergo, God exists, and has a sense of humor.

OK.... :)

I would assign those "traits of personality" to individuals observing the
machinations of history, and seeing the "humor/irony/sarcasm" in the various
situations, as human beings are FORCED to do (by their very constitution),
heard an enormous "Har har har..!" coming from inside their own heads, which
they naturally mistook for coming from "the deep cosmos", and told their
friends and loved ones of the great laughter of God.

Weird thing is, of course, that that IS the laughter of God..!

But it was always there to be heard, as a constant rumble, a
constant "noise", which preceeded ANY event in the universe, and was only
heard AS laughter when it coincided with someone's observational
interpretation of a particular event.

In other words,.. the "laugh track" of God (as well as the "cry track" and all
the other "tracks") have always been there in the background, waiting to
be "resonated with" (and therefore percieved) by our puny, yet extraordinary,
little minds.

And, as we all know, no contrast equals non-differentiation, so in fact
the "laugh track", which itself never changes and never has any contrast
with itself (it doesn't vary in time or space) is only observable when it
is "resonated with", yet it's always there.

And as it's always there, it has no need for intention, to "do" anything, as it
never changes.

Therefore the "humor" of God (and all the other "tracks"), aka "God's humor"
is non-intentional, and therefore no sign of personality.

(( Can I have my "Rabbi" merit-badge now, please? ))


-Iakeo

Originally Posted by Deiakeos
Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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Does God have a personality?

I like to think he does.

My computer has a personality, too.

My computer has a personality too, but that's because it (he?) has behavior,
because it (he?) affects other things.

God, as I see God, can't have behavior, because having behavior requires
something to behave on or with, and there is no non-God for which God can
be contrasted against so as to HAVE behavior.



Originally Posted by Deiakeos
Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Why and how?

How and why?

If god is/has a mind, is conscious and has any concept of a viewpoint, then he would also have will and intentions. God, as such, as mind, stands in opposition to nature (goddess), which is mindless and intentless, responsive to stimuli.

Sounds a bit "GREEN" to me, but I'll run with it..! :)

I agree with you. *IF* those things were true, then God would have
intentions. But I see God having no "mind", "consciousness", or "viewpoint",
and see it that way primarily because there is no "contrast" to God, and
therefore nothing for him to "think about", "be unconscious", or "see" other
than himself, and that utter lack of contrast makes him incapable of doing
those things.


I recogize that split-god image as an image of god, the myth of duality of body and spirit. I tend more towards thinking of god as nothing more than his self. That's all he need be. I can do the rest.


I can't argue with you there..! :D

You actually seem to know what your job IS..! Excellent..!! So unusual these
days..!! Bravo..!!

-Iakeo

I often spend about 30 minutes a week staring at a wall attempting to comprehend infinite space-time, pre-time, and junk like that.

I find it relaxing.
I believe they call that "contemplating life".

God, as I see God, can't have behavior, because having behavior requires
something to behave on or with, and there is no non-God for which God can
be contrasted against so as to HAVE behavior.
Just curious.... so what is the non-computer that computer is contrasted with in order for computer to have behavior?

:)

Which god - Yahweh, Jupiter, Zeus, Dagda, Apollo, Baldur - any one of a multitude of gods all over the world (and possibly on other planets)?

And why not goddess(es)

Tell me!

EXCELLENT question..!! :) Most appreciated..!!

THE (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=the).

THEOS.

The definite article.

The point of monotheism is NOT that "OUR" God is like the other "gods" but
the only REAL one and certainly the most pwerful.

It's about the FACT that THE God is the only POSSIBLE God, and therefore
MUST be the only real one.

All "gods" not THIS GOD (THE God) are essential mistakes, mistaking various
sub-sets of God's "universe" (aka God) for the the WHOLE (holy) God.

This mistake is, by the way, the only true "sin".

All "sin" derives from mistaking some "part" for the "whole".

-Iakeo

EXCELLENT question..!! :) Most appreciated..!!

THE (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=the).

THEOS.

The definite article.

The point of monotheism is NOT that "OUR" God is like the other "gods" but
the only REAL one and certainly the most pwerful.

It's about the FACT that THE God is the only POSSIBLE God, and therefore
MUST be the only real one.

All "gods" not THIS GOD (THE God) are essential mistakes, mistaking various
sub-sets of God's "universe" (aka God) for the the WHOLE (holy) God.

This mistake is, by the way, the only true "sin".

All "sin" derives from mistaking some "part" for the "whole".

-Iakeo
The thing about mis-takes is that they can be corrected, or at least adjusted, with a re-take.

Sins cannot.

I don't like sins.

I often spend about 30 minutes a week staring at wall
attempting to comprehend infinite space-time, pre-time, and junk like that.

I find it relaxing.

Well,.. there you go.

And what "use" is this "relaxation" to you?

If it's useful, then it's a (potentially) good thing.

Of course, if it's useful to you, and it makes it you more efficient at going out
and slaughtering the masses in an evil attempt at conquering the world, then
maybe it's NOT such a good thing.

But that's YOUR intention (and therefore "personality"), NOT "infinite space-
time's" intention (or personality),.. or fault.

It couldn't care less. Just as God couldn't care less.

-Iakeo

Just curious.... so what is the non-computer that computer is contrasted with in order for computer to have behavior?

:)

My data.

My nerves.

The office that needs the data that my computer refuses to give up because
it "just doesn't want to talk right now" to the office.

:D

-Iakeo

The thing about mis-takes is that they can be corrected, or at least adjusted, with a re-take.

Sins cannot.

I don't like sins.

Mistakes can NOT be undone. Only corrected. Once an act is "acted", it's
been acted. You can't "unring" a bell. You can't run time backwards.

Sins are no more than "misses of the mark" (as I'm sure you've heard
expounded ad nausem). They are simply mistakes, and while they can't be un-
done, they can be noticed as mistakes and other actions performed to "fix"
the mistake of the sinful act.

"Sins" are no more "profound" than any other mistake. What makes
them "profound", as with any mistake, is the intent (personality) behind them
and what that person (intention wielder) will do next in response to
their "sin", or simple mistake.

And this is why God can't sin, or make any other form of mistake.

Without a thing to act on which is in contrast with himself, he simply can not
act, and not having the ability to act relieves him of the burden of needing,
much less having, ANY intent, which means not only that mistakes are
impossible (if you can't DO you can't do WRONGLY!), but that intentional
mistakes (evil doing) are impossible as well.

"God wants for naught." -this sums up all you need to know about God.

A world (universe) where God has "personality" is a nonsensical place.


-Iakeo

Mistakes can NOT be undone. Only corrected. Once an act is "acted", it's
been acted. You can't "unring" a bell. You can't run time backwards.
Right; what I said. :) Not undone, but corrected. Sins cannot be corrected; they are "acts" against God. There is no one with which to put it right.

Without a thing to act on which is in contrast with himself, he simply can not
act, and not having the ability to act relieves him of the burden of needing,
much less having, ANY intent, which means not only that mistakes are
impossible (if you can't DO you can't do WRONGLY!), but that intentional
mistakes (evil doing) are impossible as well.

"God wants for naught." -this sums up all you need to kow about God.

A world (universe) where God has "personality" is a nonsensical place.


-Iakeo
I totally agree with that.

I totally agree with that.

OK,.. now I'm going to shock you. (Unless you don't want to be shocked, or
don't care to be shocked, in which case this won't shock you.)

God has no intention or personality. (..as stated previously)

BUT,.. God (whom we call Jesus, or a "Jesus-like" thing), which is
the "energetic" aspect of (the "Father") God does have intent and personality.

He must have, as he informs, is the "system" that underlies, all sub-systems
of nature (including HUMAN nature) and as such is the actual source for what
is "right" and "wrong".

("Right and Wrong" are not the same as "Good and Evil".)

So,.. since God has both his "Father" aspect and his radiant "Son" (begotten)
aspect, God DOES in fact have an intent and personality.

(Once again, using the formulation that if there is intent there MUST be a
personality.)

What does this mean to my "theology", then? Have I completely muddled
myself?

I don't think so. What it does to my theology is to introduce the reasoning for
the obvious need for "morality".

Why is morality needed? Because morality is nothing more than a basis for
deciding what is "right" and "wrong".

All of nature IS essentially an expression of "right and wrong" in that it
functions as a "whole" (holy) system which functions perfectly, but which is
composed of sub-systems which "compete" with each other, in right and
wrong ways (a function of "free will").

As an example, it is "wrong" for a predator population to eat ALL of it's prey,
and thereafter starve and die out in their (now no longer occupied) territory.

That is how nature can go "wrong".

Formulating 1+1=3 is also a natural "wrong", which has consequences in
nature.

But, of course, "wrongness" is always and only "local".

So is this concept of "right and wrong" (morality) USEFUL? To a "local" being?
(..as ALL creatures [creations] are local beings)

Do you wish to survive? Then "doing the right thing" with the intent to
survive is useful.

Thus, morality is useful. And if morality, as a concept, is useful, then Jesus
(as the "radiant informing" aspect of God) is useful.

I like useful things.


-Iakeo

OK,.. now I'm going to shock you. (Unless you don't want to be shocked, or
don't care to be shocked, in which case this won't shock you.)

God has no intention or personality. (..as stated previously)

BUT,.. God (whom we call Jesus, or a "Jesus-like" thing), which is
the "energetic" aspect of (the "Father") God does have intent and personality.

He must have, as he informs, is the "system" that underlies, all sub-systems
of nature (including HUMAN nature) and as such is the actual source for what
is "right" and "wrong".

("Right and Wrong" are not the same as "Good and Evil".)
That is the image of god, your image of god. There had to be one, to accompany your self. It's hardly shocking. ;)

So,.. since God has both his "Father" aspect and his radiant "Son" (begotten)
aspect, God DOES in fact have an intent and personality.

(Once again, using the formulation that if there is intent there MUST be a
personality.)

What does this mean to my "theology", then? Have I completely muddled
myself?

I don't think so. What it does to my theology is to introduce the reasoning for
the obvious need for "morality".
Aye, that is one historically successful use for creating (recognizing) the image of god.

Why is morality needed? Because morality is nothing more than a basis for
deciding what is "right" and "wrong".

All of nature IS essentially an expression of "right and wrong" in that it
functions as a "whole" (holy) system which functions perfectly, but which is
composed of sub-systems which "compete" with each other, in right and
wrong ways (a function of "free will").
That is zoe (the eternal whole) and bios (the mortal parts).

As an example, it is "wrong" for a predator population to eat ALL of it's prey,
and thereafter starve and die out in their (now no longer occupied) territory.

That is how nature can go "wrong".

Formulating 1+1=3 is also a natural "wrong", which has consequences in
nature.

But, of course, "wrongness" is always and only "local".

So is this concept of "right and wrong" (morality) USEFUL? To a "local" being?
(..as ALL creatures [creations] are local beings)

Do you wish to survive? Then "doing the right thing" with the intent to
survive is useful.

Thus, morality is useful. And if morality, as a concept, is useful, then Jesus
(as the "radiant informing" aspect of God) is useful.

I like useful things.


-Iakeo
I believe that both the idea of god/god-existence and the image of god are necessary parts of 'having a religion'. In other words, it's lovely to have god, but not very useful unless you do something with it. I like what you've done with it.

Stupid Deep Quest'n - Does God have a personality?
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Does God have a personality?

Does God have ANY intentions (active will to actually do ANYTHING)?

Why and how?

How and why?


People seem to be of the opinion that God "does stuff", as if he were
some "person" with a mind to "do stuff".

If he "wants" to "do stuff" then he has INTENT on doing it.

If he "wants" anything (including to "do stuff") then he exhibits a
PERSONALITY.

I'm of the opinion that he neither has intent to do anything at all, and has no
personality whatsoever, because if he did then the universe would be a
nonsensical place.

Yet I believe firmly and completely in the existence of God, as a non-
intentional and non-personality-having thing.

I happen to KNOW that I'm right in my belief (primarily because it's useful to
me and utterly impossible to disprove).

What is wrong with you goof-balls who believe otherwise..? :)


-Iakeo

How can something have a personality if it doesnt exist? hmmm.....


I guess god would have a nonexistent personality.

"God is a comedien, playing to an audience who are afraid to laugh."

That is the image of god, your image of god. There had to be one, to accompany your self. It's hardly shocking. ;)

Hae ae ae... thanks for that..! :D

I claim, quite correctly, to be a simple mind (person/savage-of-the-little-
isolated-islands), and to be still discovering myself, which I'm HOPING will
continue forever, as I rather like the act of discovery.

This simple fool simply likes to converse with, not only people, but with the
universe as well. It's quite fun.


Aye, that is one historically successful use for creating (recognizing) the image of god.

That is zoe (the eternal whole) and bios (the mortal parts).

I shall have to look that up.


I believe that both the idea of god/god-existence and the image of god are necessary parts of 'having a religion'. In other words, it's lovely to have god, but not very useful unless you do something with it. I like what you've done with it.

THAT is my single biggest personal lesson which I need to REALLY get into my
head (and body for that matter)...!

DO SOMETHING WITH IT..!!! Whatever "it" is.

But what does one do with God "the Father" (the ineffable inevitability) and
God "the Son" (the whole point of decision making)..?

Could that perhaps be God "the ME (actor)" (the spirit)..?

..and what does the "spirit" do..? Spirits act.

Bingo..!!

That's what makes me a christian,.. and perhaps a rather heretical one, but
one nonetheless.

I'm not particularly concerned if other people (cultures) have come to these
or different "formulations" of these concepts. Just as I'm not particularly
concerned if other people have formulated the concepts of calculus or
astrophysics.

But the concepts are so simple and useful (yet so amazingly complex and
involved in every aspect of every concern) that I feel sorry at those people
and cultures who have not come to them because of "other things to do" (be
that laziness [pathological pleasure seeking], survival [no time for anything
but surviving], or any other reason).

I feel even more sorry for those who simply think that the reality of the
concepts themselves are non-existant, and are at best a manipulation of
humanity.

To me (and EVERYTHING I say is "to me") the anti-God person (whatever
they call themselves) is as silly as one who thinks that breathing is a vast
conspiratorial manipulation of humanity that the "air" lobby imposes to further
their "profits".

(( This "air" lobby makes profit from breathing not by charging for air, but by
charging rent/mortgages from those who continue breathing, of course, as
opposed to those "bastards" who don't breathe [are dead] and refuse to pay
rent/mortgages. They [the "air" lobby] also charges for all those other things
that "living" people need as well, of course. ))


-Iakeo

How can something have a personality if it doesnt exist? hmmm.....

I guess god would have a nonexistent personality.

But he does exist..!

If you truly believe he doesn't, then the question is meaningless to you, and
you should go on to, specifically, NOT worrying about it.

If the question of God EVER comes up for you, especially if it comes
from "within" you, then you must immediately ignore it.

Continue to ignore it, whenever and whereever it arises, with increasing vigor
and vehemence.

And eventually it will not go away to such an extent that God will
simply "appear" to you.

..then you will have "grown up" a bit. :)


-Iakeo

"God is a comedien, playing to an audience who are afraid to laugh."

That would be the god of the tyrant (the left).

-Iakeo

I often spend about 30 minutes a week staring at a wall attempting to comprehend infinite space-time, pre-time, and junk like that.

I find it relaxing.

The weed is good, yes?