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He will be going to Iraq for a tour of duty inside Iraq as a troop commander.

From what I just heard, he'll be patroling the long boarder with Iran.

More to come so stay tuned.

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He'll need lots of armoured support. And helicopters. And Harriers.

They sorta can't risk him, so they have to make it a media story. A war veteran king - that should protect the monarchy for another fifty years or so.

He'll need lots of armoured support. And helicopters. And Harriers.

They sorta can't risk him, so they have to make it a media story. A war veteran king - that should protect the monarchy for another fifty years or so.
He's not going to be King.

Unless William dies.

He's not going to be King.

Unless William dies.

He'll just be referred to as "the royal who actually had a pair".

He'll just be referred to as "the royal who actually had a pair".


His uncle already earned that in the Falklands.

Why does anyone care?

He's not going to be King.
Ooops.
Hmm..William, hey? A Coward, is he?

Let's just hope he doesn't get to make any military decisions - not the brightest of blokes really.

I was under the impression they all got to join the military at some point. Sometimes there's a conflict and they get sent, otherwise it's just the usual.

I was under the impression they all got to join the military at some point. Sometimes there's a conflict and they get sent, otherwise it's just the usual.
They usually do a fairly safe stint in the Royal Navy.

As a former infantryman, I think that Prince Harry's choice is great.

Ooops.
Hmm..William, hey? A Coward, is he?
Probably not allowed near anything remotely dangerous.

Apart from polo. And skiing.

I smell a SITCOM!

Who cares? Joe Bloggs is going to Iraq but he dosn't get a thread.

Ooops.
Hmm..William, hey? A Coward, is he?

William joined Sandhurst a month or so back. Still he may join the Women's Auxillary Balloon Corps. for all we know...

He will be going to Iraq for a tour of duty inside Iraq as a troop commander.

From what I just heard, he'll be patroling the long boarder with Iran.

More to come so stay tuned.


Bullshit, it'll never happen.

Although I'm not saying it wouldn't be a nice idea; perhaps he could get his head blown off?

William joined Sandhurst a month or so back. Still he may join the Women's Auxillary Balloon Corps. for all we know...
That sounds like an interesting branch, helping women with their balloons. I may want to join myself. Got any pictures?

Bullshit, it'll never happen.

Although I'm not saying it wouldn't be a nice idea; perhaps he could get his head blown off?

I;m afraid it isn't bs. He really is going to Iraq as a troop commander

Who cares? Joe Bloggs is going to Iraq but he dosn't get a thread.

Joe Bloggs isn't a Prince of Wales.

Joe Bloggs isn't a Prince of Wales.

Maybe not, but let's face it - his name OWNS Harry's.

Who cares? Joe Bloggs is going to Iraq but he dosn't get a thread.
That brings up a question I have.

The ABC reporter and his cameraman who were injured in an IED explosion in Iraq have been front page news for a few days - lots and lots of coverage.

Quite different from the typical soldier getting killed or wounded - they hardly get any coverage at all, if mentioned at all.

Was the coverage of the ABC reporter and cameraman news in Europe or elsewhere?

...

Was the coverage of the ABC reporter and cameraman news in Europe or elsewhere?
No, it wasn't mentioned at all here, in Russia.

Ooops.
Hmm..William, hey? A Coward, is he?


didnt william just recently enlist?

I;m afraid it isn't bs. He really is going to Iraq as a troop commander


Not according to the MoD

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4670172.stm

He will be going to Iraq for a tour of duty inside Iraq as a troop commander.

From what I just heard, he'll be patroling the long boarder with Iran.

More to come so stay tuned.
This is a good idea, at least if he doesn't come back.

Not according to the MoD

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4670172.stm

So they are neither confirming nor denying it. They are calling it speculation and I would do the samething in there place. After all, he is royality.

Heirs to the throne tend not to be thrown into dangerous situations, so its unlikely William will see active service.

Traditionally, however, before the interstate system was more civilised, the younger son would lead forays into France to loot, pillage and essentially party it up medieval style. Harry's temperament obviously harkens back to those days, based on his lifestyle, so a bit of a middle eastern chevauchee would probably do him the world of good. As long as he's got some good sergeants under him he will probably do fine. Good luck to him I say.

And now the obvious and bewildered question from an American: why on earth does anyone care about the antics of an inbred child? Honestly. You brits and your royals, its almost as unseemly as the obsession with that ghastly Hilton creature over here...

He's not going to be King.

Unless William dies.

Kinda makes you miss the old days, where you could just kill the heir to the throne. Also, the way they were killed could sometimes be very neat.

I'm sure Harry will do fine in Iraq or Iran.

So they are neither confirming nor denying it. They are calling it speculation and I would do the samething in there place. After all, he is royality.

The kid supposedly should have failed all his exams (A level and military entrance) if it was not for the fact he is the certain son and grand son of a certain somebody and you think he'll be let near the command of anyone in a combat zone?! And anywhere near as Iran right now?!

Perfect kidnap territory if you ask me.

Was the coverage of the ABC reporter and cameraman news in Europe or elsewhere?
Not that I noticed, although it would probably have been mentioned in some of the newspapers. I only really saw it on the CNN site.

Incredible...a royalty member making himself useful :eek:

Joe Bloggs isn't a Prince of Wales.
I fail to see the diffrence between Joe Bloggs and Harry Winsor (Who isn't the Prince of Wales, thats william!)

It's all a matter of birth, thats all. But then I'm all for aboloshing the Monacy...

I'm sure he'll come in proper military attire: :D
http://www.fiba-filmbank.org/dev/fiba%202005/BBFF/nazi_harry.jpg

Just a teensy weensy point. Imagine the ramifications of his death, the opposition will have a field day.

Here, Harry, have some hash and or opium. *Shhhh!*

Just a teensy weensy point. Imagine the ramifications of his death, the opposition will have a field day.
Any death in Iraq gives them a field day.

Just a teensy weensy point. Imagine the ramifications of his death, the opposition will have a field day.
The Daily Mail would ahve a feild day! it might just kill of Blair as well.

The Daily Mail would ahve a feild day! it might just kill of Blair as well.

I know, do you reckon they already have the headlines written?:p

He will be a fire magnet though...:rolleyes:

I know its the 'in' thing to bash the royals these days, and whilst a lot of them do deserve it, and quite probably Harry as well for his idiocy, but has anyone here considered the fact that - shocking as it may be - he might actually turn out to be a good leader? Placed into a position of command, he might actually gain some sense and experience. Stranger things have happened, after all.

I'm sure he'll come in proper military attire: :D
http://www.fiba-filmbank.org/dev/fiba%202005/BBFF/nazi_harry.jpg


Meh. Even though I have no time for the royal family, I think he got slammed a little too much for this. So what? He went to a fancy dress party dressed as a Nazi? My dad once went to christmas party dressed as Osama Bin Laden (Though he used a bin liner part of the costume so called it Osama Bin Liner. Ho ho ho), doesn't mean he's a terroist sympathsier.

Meh. Even though I have no time for the royal family, I think he got slammed a little too much for this. So what? He went to a fancy dress party dressed as a Nazi? My dad once went to christmas party dressed as Osama Bin Laden (Though he used a bin liner part of the costume so called it Osama Bin Liner. Ho ho ho), doesn't mean he's a terroist sympathsier.
Yeah, but it's always funny to make fun of the people in power when they do something as stupid as this :)

Yeah, but it's always funny to make fun of the people in power when they do something as stupid as this :)
That's half the point of having people in power, so you can mock your 'betters'.

That brings up a question I have.

The ABC reporter and his cameraman who were injured in an IED explosion in Iraq have been front page news for a few days - lots and lots of coverage.

Quite different from the typical soldier getting killed or wounded - they hardly get any coverage at all, if mentioned at all.

Was the coverage of the ABC reporter and cameraman news in Europe or elsewhere?
The death the other day of the 100th British soldier to die in Iraq was biggish news.

Never heard of an ABC reporter.

My dad once went to christmas party dressed as Osama Bin Laden (Though he used a bin liner part of the costume so called it Osama Bin Liner. Ho ho ho), doesn't mean he's a terroist sympathsier.
That's just what I did for Hallowe'en a few years back. It was well-received.

Eventually, I plan to do Hallowe'en with a friend dressed together as the World Trade Center, complete with crashing model airplanes.

My dad once went to christmas party dressed as Osama Bin Laden (Though he used a bin liner part of the costume so called it Osama Bin Liner. Ho ho ho), doesn't mean he's a terroist sympathsier.
That's just what I did for Hallowe'en a few years back. It was well-received.

Eventually, I plan to do Hallowe'en with a friend dressed together as the World Trade Center, complete with crashing model airplanes.

It would suck big time to have him as your troop cornet. Talk about instant popularity with the enemy.

Really, they should stay at home, or piss about with the RN costal patrol division where they can't get other people hurt.

I fail to see the diffrence between Joe Bloggs and Harry Winsor

One's an inbred german?

I know, do you reckon they already have the headlines written?:p

He will be a fire magnet though...:rolleyes:
Every single Terrorist in Iraq will be attempting to kill him.

Every single Terrorist in Iraq will be attempting to kill him.

We could also send in James Hewitt to confuse them

¬_¬.

he might be of more use along the Iraq/syria border (though i could be totally wrong about that... that's just my gut reaction), but it's good to hear he's willing to risk his neck to help in the fight to stabilize the new democratic Iraq.

Meh. Even though I have no time for the royal family, I think he got slammed a little too much for this. So what? He went to a fancy dress party dressed as a Nazi?

We all know it was the Lizard people diverting attention away from the theme of the costume party.

Every single Terrorist in Iraq will be attempting to kill him.

We should send the Labour Cabinet in his stead, for once I would be in support for the militants.

I fail to see the diffrence between Joe Bloggs and Harry Winsor (Who isn't the Prince of Wales, thats william!)

It's all a matter of birth, thats all. But then I'm all for aboloshing the Monacy...Uh... just a little thing here... The Prince of Wales is normally the title given to the heir apparent, which neither William or Harry are for the mere fact that their father hasn't died or been disinhereited yet.

What do you mean you fail to see the difference between Joe Bloggs and Harry Windsor? Isn't it obvious, one of them is third in line for the throne and gets special treatment from the military. :p

Meh, not really interested in the royals, but we could definately spend less on them, like the Dutch monarchy. Long live Queen Beatrice.

We should send the Labour Cabinet in his stead, for once I would be in support for the militants.
Only the New Labout ones, keep the real labour members and send the old hag and the old tories as well.

Only the New Labout ones, keep the real labour members and send the old hag and the old tories as well.

Sorry, but I disagree immensely, the entire Labour party if possible, and the Lib Dems too.

Contravertial I am aware. but Thatcher was a consumate and impeccable leader.

Sorry, but I disagree immensely, the entire Labour party if possible, and the Lib Dems too.

Contravertial I am aware. but Thatcher was a consumate and impeccable leader.
Thatcher was a madwoman that nearly distroyed this coutnry and should be hung, drawn and quatered. 3 million unemployed. She enarly distroeyd this country-just as she distroyed the miners and tried to distroy the farmers. She was evil bitch and I will be glad when shes dead.

Persoanlly I think that the BNP, UKIP and the old tories should be got rid off-painfully if possible.

Thatcher was a madwoman that nearly distroyed this coutnry and should be hung, drawn and quatered. 3 million unemployed. She enarly distroeyd this country-just as she distroyed the miners and tried to distroy the farmers. She was evil bitch and I will be glad when shes dead.

Persoanlly I think that the BNP, UKIP and the old tories should be got rid off-painfully if possible.


Hmmm... I thought the country had already been through 15 years of economic malaise and disaster (there was talk of the IMF bailing out the UK...), and Thatcher came along - unfortunately for her, what was required was very strong and uncaring action in order to remedy things.

Yes, she hurt a lot of people - but I think that was unavoidable. People weren't willing to face reality.

Hmmm... I thought the country had already been through 15 years of economic malaise and disaster (there was talk of the IMF bailing out the UK...), and Thatcher came along - unfortunately for her, what was required was very strong and uncaring action in order to remedy things.

Yes, she hurt a lot of people - but I think that was unavoidable. People weren't willing to face reality.
Maybe so, but she left ebhind her a bigger mess than she started with-Privatised rail, what was he thinking?!?!?!

Take the thatcher debate elswhere please.

Maybe so, but she left ebhind her a bigger mess than she started with-Privatised rail, what was he thinking?!?!?!

Didn't Major do that?

Didn't Major do that?
I get confused, but the important thing is that the tories ruined this country.

I get confused, but the important thing is that the tories ruined this country.
Hate to break it to you, but it was already ruined by the early 1960s, and only got worse through the late 1970s - early 1980s.

Labour wouldn't admit how bad it was. You hate the Tories because they did the hard things that had to be done - things that Labour would never do, even if it meant turning the UK into a Third World nation, which it was on the verge of becoming - ready to beg, hat in hand, at the IMF.

Thatcher was a madwoman that nearly distroyed this coutnry and should be hung, drawn and quatered. 3 million unemployed. She enarly distroeyd this country-just as she distroyed the miners and tried to distroy the farmers. She was evil bitch and I will be glad when shes dead.

Persoanlly I think that the BNP, UKIP and the old tories should be got rid off-painfully if possible.

Whereas I would contend she remains the greatest living Britsih politician, followed by Hague, and then Clarke, who saved Britain from being a strike ridden, trade union dominated abyss.

Furthermore, I would rather see Old Labour, most of New Labour, the old Liberals, and Respect, dispensed with, and George Galloway locked in a zoo for public amusement whilst poked with sticks and forced to recite Thatcherite speeches.

George Galloway locked in a zoo for public amusement whilst poked with sticks and forced to recite Thatcherite speeches.

Galloway might actually enjoy that. I think he's completely insane.

I get confused, but the important thing is that the tories ruined this country.

Or not.

Whereas I would contend she remains the greatest living Britsih politician, followed by Hague, and then Clarke, who saved Britain from being a strike ridden, trade union dominated abyss.


Just as an aside. How can Hague be one of the greatest living politicians when all he has really done is give a speech whilst his voice was breaking and lost an election?

Galloway might actually enjoy that.

I bloody would, notably if he dressed and acted as a cat intermittently.:p

Galloway might actually enjoy that. I think he's completely insane.

He did, after all, willingly go into the Big Brother house.

Just as an aside. How can Hague be one of the greatest living politicians when all he has really done is give a speech whilst his voice was breaking and lost an election?

Excellent orator who inherited a party never even likely to win the 2001 election.

Excellent orator who inherited a party never even likely to win the 2001 election.

Could one not say the same for Galloway though?

(No matter how objectionable one may, and does, find him)

Could one not say the same for Galloway though?

(No matter how objectionable one may, and does, find him)

The only problem being he would be a raving socialist.

Whereas I would contend she remains the greatest living Britsih politician, followed by Hague, and then Clarke, who saved Britain from being a strike ridden, trade union dominated abyss.

Furthermore, I would rather see Old Labour, most of New Labour, the old Liberals, and Respect, dispensed with, and George Galloway locked in a zoo for public amusement whilst poked with sticks and forced to recite Thatcherite speeches.

Eh. You lost your credibility when you started praising the glory of the aristocratic system over damn meritocracy. Never having to work a day in your life from being spoilt as a child by rich daddy and mummy does that to people ;)

Eh. You lost your credibility when you started praising the glory of the aristocratic system over damn meritocracy. Never having to work a day in your life from being spoilt as a child by rich daddy and mummy does that to people ;)

It may have been Major's recession more than that, I adore the aristocracy and am a member of the party.

The only problem being he would be a raving socialist.

So really you think that Hague was one of the greatest politicians because he was a Conservative and you rather liked hearing him speak?

So really you think that Hague was one of the greatest politicians because he was a Conservative and you rather liked hearing him speak?
I think thats his basic idea yes-to slim it down:

Conservatives-Good
Anyone else-bad.

In his opinion.

I agree about Galloway though, that mans a disgrace to socalism, and which party is this Chris? I know of no party known as The Party, other than verious dicatoral regimes and 1984.

Adn explain the advantages of Aristocracy over Meritocracy?

good

It may have been Major's recession more than that, I adore the aristocracy and am a member of the party.

The aristocratic HoL was one of our finest institutions: hundreds of unpayed people ammending our legislation for the better.

But it's not "fair", so New Labour mutilated it. What's so fair about government appointment I'm not so sure.

Never having to work a day in your life from being spoilt as a child by rich daddy and mummy does that to people ;)

Yes but he has a job, he is in the army remember?

Also, the point is they are there, waving at cameras and keeping the tabloids from noticing any real news.

Eh. You lost your credibility when you started praising the glory of the aristocratic system over damn meritocracy. Never having to work a day in your life from being spoilt as a child by rich daddy and mummy does that to people ;)

Someone's quietly envious :p

The aristocratic HoL was one of our finest institutions: hundreds of unpayed people ammending our legislation for the better.

But it's not "fair", so New Labour mutilated it. What's so fair about government appointment I'm not so sure.


A house packed with unelected mostly upper class people vs a house packed with unelected "Tonys cronies"...o what a choice...

Exactly, Aristocracy means people are envious, so they try damn hard to do well and get a lordship or a barony or an earldom or a whatnot.

Encourages people to get off their arse and do stuff rather than sit on their arse and watch telly waiting for their dole money

On that note, has anyone read Armageddon the Musical by Robert Rankin. :P The ultimate end democracy is aiming for :D

A house packed with unelected mostly upper class people vs a house packed with unelected "Tonys cronies"...o what a choice...

What's wrong with unelected upper class people? They never made decisions, but only amended legislation so that it was clearer and there were less opportunities for misinterpretation.

Why does it matter where they come from, as long as they do their job?

Why does it matter where they come from, as long as they do their job?

Ah, but you are not allowed to have people better than anyone else anymore, that is discrimination.

So everyone must be dragged town to the level of the lowest common denominator

Ah, but you are not allowed to have people better than anyone else anymore, that is discrimination.

So everyone must be dragged town to the level of the lowest common denominator


Then why do you attack the "upper classes"... you're not making much sense.

Then why do you attack the "upper classes"... you're not making much sense.

Are you sure you have not confused me with someone else?

I SUPPORT the Royal family/Aristocracy.



BRING BACK THE FEUDAL SYSTEM!. Well, maybe not that far...

Are you sure you have not confused me with someone else?

I SUPPORT the Royal family/Aristocracy.



BRING BACK THE FEUDAL SYSTEM!. Well, maybe not that far...

I do beg your pardon good sir! I indeed mistook you for someone else.

They've just abolished the feudal system in Scotland, and tenants can make compulsory purchases from landlords who have own more than a certain acreage.

Is that not legalised theft? As is inheritance tax...

and tenants can make compulsory purchases from landlords who have own more than a certain acreage.

Is that not legalised theft? As is inheritance tax...

ARGH! what bollocks! At the most base level that is going to encourage landlords to pack people into small houses.

See, governments cannot be trusted to run a country.

I know its the 'in' thing to bash the royals these days, and whilst a lot of them do deserve it, and quite probably Harry as well for his idiocy, but has anyone here considered the fact that - shocking as it may be - he might actually turn out to be a good leader? Placed into a position of command, he might actually gain some sense and experience. Stranger things have happened, after all.

Like Oda Nobunaga, who wanted to loaf around and sleep in late... until one of his retainers committed suicide in protest. Oda Nobunaga went on to become a brilliant field commander.

You seem to have misunderstood the point of a mertitocracy-in a meritocracy people earn more money and get to high office becuase there GOOD AT THERE JOB or CLEVER or maybe they WORK HARD. Not becuase they are Lord No-chin the thirds son and therefore inherate all his money and his tital. why should a idiot that just happens to be born to a Lord become a member of the house of Lords.

If it where up to me i'd have a democratically elected lords and commons. The lords elected every 2 1/3 years and the commons every 5 years. I'd also raise inheritance tax and change the honours list.

You seem to have misunderstood the point of a mertitocracy-in a meritocracy people earn more money and get to high office becuase there GOOD AT THERE JOB or CLEVER or maybe they WORK HARD.


Yeah we know, its a bit obvious considering the name.

But it does not work, People get to the top because they are a bigger scheming bastard than everyone else.

And when scheming bastardyness is a survival trait evolution comes to the fore and you end up with a nasty parody of an aristocratic system where it is not run by cheerfully mildly incompetent happy people but by evil twats with thin mustches.

Okay, that might be a slightly over the top version of my opinion, but I would rather be ruled by a happily corrupt person who takes no interest than a faceless corporation (Weyland-Yutani for example :P)

Yeah we know, its a bit obvious considering the name.

But it does not work, People get to the top because they are a bigger scheming bastard than everyone else.

And when scheming bastardyness is a survival trait evolution comes to the fore and you end up with a nasty parody of an aristocratic system where it is not run by cheerfully mildly incompetent happy people but by evil twats with thin mustches.

Okay, that might be a slightly over the top version of my opinion, but I would rather be ruled by a happily corrupt person who takes no interest than a faceless corporation (Weyland-Yutani for example :P)
Ah, but the problem with Artistocraycy is that you end up being ruled over by some insane madman such as Kiser Wilhelm, George the 3rd or William Rufas.

And in a mertitocracy the people on top shouldn't be incompitant at all-They should be good at there jobs. It's in aristocracy that you get ruled over by incopitant, evil twats.