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Do you agree with Alito being comfirmed as a member of the sepreme court of the United States?

so he has been confirmed?!?

I don't. I think it will open the door to overturning of Roe V. Wade, and add another vote to back Scalia and Thomas' right wing agenda.

Nope.

As it was said. There is nobody to the right of Alito.

You will here the apologists say "it's only about ability" However, if there was somebody that was equally to the left, they would say something different.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466295

Is it really that hard to see if it has already been posted before you post it? This is the umpteenth time you do this. Please stop.

I don't. I think it will open the door to overturning of Roe V. Wade, and add another vote to back Scalia and Thomas' right wing agenda.

At the moment no. But they can chip away at it.

They need to replace ginsburg and or stevens to do that.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466295

Is it really that hard to see if it has already been posted before you post it? This is the umpteenth time you do this. Please stop.

I dont give a F*** wat others have posted about. Yes I did see it but mine is different. A POLL. Even if It wasent I dont care. I wat my own chat about the topic.

I am very happy Alito was confirmed. KEEP AMERICA CONSERVATIVE!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466295

Is it really that hard to see if it has already been posted before you post it? This is the umpteenth time you do this. Please stop.
don't worry about it Fass... there bount to be #X more threads about Alito. just post in the one you wanna post in.

Alito Confirmed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466295)

I already have a thread on this.

Alito Confirmed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466295)

I already have a thread on this.

I ust really wanted to make a poll showin Conservatives and liberals views. And how there views are different.

I ust really wanted to make a poll showin Conservatives and liberals views. And how there views are different.

That's why we create threads but we already have a thread on this where everyone can put out their views and debate.

So I'm going to go ask the mods fo this thread to be merged with mine.

That's nice, I hope he got a nice bible for the occasion.

That's why we create threads but we already have a thread on this where everyone can put out their views and debate.

So I'm going to go ask the mods fo this thread to be merged with mine.


What is wrong with you? Gee, Its a thread and it is different from yours.

What is wrong with you? Gee, Its a thread and it is different from yours.

Actually, the only thing different is the poll however, copy cat threads are not allowed.

Actually, the only thing different is the poll however, copy cat threads are not allowed.

You are a perfect nelly did you know that? I made this thread for a diff. reason then you and im goin to the mods.

You are a perfect nelly did you know that? I made this thread for a diff. reason then you and im goin to the mods.

I already have 5 pages of debate. The only thing being debated here, is you and me arguing over thread rights.

You made the threads to have debates (as it would turn into). I already have a thread that people are debating in on his confirmation.

As for being nelly.... I already know I'm crazy.

I already have 5 pages of debate. The only thing being debated here, is you and me arguing over thread rights.

You made the threads to have debates (as it would turn into). I already have a thread that people are debating in on his confirmation.

As for being nelly.... I already know I'm crazy.

Can I ask you a question? Why are you takeing both of us haveing a thread so serious? Golly gee.;)

Can I ask you a question? Why are you takeing both of us haveing a thread so serious? Golly gee.;)

because I believe in following the rules.

because I believe in following the rules.

I dont remember readin a rule that 2 people can post 2 different types of disscussion on the same person. Your just a freak.

60% of the people voted are in favour of alito. I think a lot of liberals noticed how harse the senate was on alito and changed there mind.:)

60% of the people voted are in favour of alito. I think a lot of liberals noticed how harse the senate was on alito and changed there mind.:)

Give it time. I have most of the liberals in my thread. Probably because they know that this is a copy cat thread which is illegal!

60% of the people voted are in favour of alito. I think a lot of liberals noticed how harse the senate was on alito and changed there mind.:)

Yes I agree. I hated Alito in the begining. Then after the terrible treatment of him that made his wife cry I support him and HATE those terrible democrats in congress. EXAMPLE: CHARLES KENNEDY, CHUCK SHUMER< HILARY CLINTON,

Im very pleased even as a liberal that alito was confirmed. I like his tactics as I also like bushs.

Ya I thought so.

Yes I agree. I hated Alito in the begining. Then after the terrible treatment of him that made his wife cry I support him and HATE those terrible democrats in congress. EXAMPLE: CHARLES KENNEDY, CHUCK SHUMER< HILARY CLINTON,

Ya I saw that on telly. How could you do something like that. Its so sad. I also Hate Robert Kennedy. Thats who you mean right?

Ya I saw that on telly. How could you do something like that. Its so sad. I also Hate Robert Kennedy. Thats who you mean right?

oh sorry. Im such a fluff. I was thinking of Charles Kennedy the leader of my political party liberal democrats.

I agree. I hate Hillary Clinton the most. I hope she never enters the white house.

The main problem about that the list of democrats you just mentioned and more will vote against the most highly trained person just as long as bush proposes him. I dont think any of them are fit to be in congress.

The main problem about that the list of democrats you just mentioned and more will vote against the most highly trained person just as long as bush proposes him. I dont think any of them are fit to be in congress.

I remember when the Bork hearings were held years ago, and Kennedy did the same crap to Bork that he's done to every Republican nominee ever since.

Unfortunately for Kennedy, Bork made Kennedy look like a failed law school student who hadn't studied and was now facing an oral exam. You could tell that having Bork point out how stupid he was really steamed him.

Kennedy, Schumer, and even Specter (yes, I know he's a Republican) all are pretty stupid, and it's a wonder that they have enough brain cells to maintain their breathing.

I remember when the Bork hearings were held years ago, and Kennedy did the same crap to Bork that he's done to every Republican nominee ever since.

Unfortunately for Kennedy, Bork made Kennedy look like a failed law school student who hadn't studied and was now facing an oral exam. You could tell that having Bork point out how stupid he was really steamed him.

Kennedy, Schumer, and even Specter (yes, I know he's a Republican) all are pretty stupid, and it's a wonder that they have enough brain cells to maintain their breathing.

Another point. Kennedy has been around for so long! His brother died over 40 years ago and he is still in congress. Retire please!

Was there ever any doubt that he would get confirmed?

I'm glad the filibuster was shot down the way it was. It shows that some democrats are actually sane, unlike Kerry/Clinton.

I already have 5 pages of debate. The only thing being debated here, is you and me arguing over thread rights.

You made the threads to have debates (as it would turn into). I already have a thread that people are debating in on his confirmation.

As for being nelly.... I already know I'm crazy.

I'm not sure if I'd call it debate, it mainly consists of you and Stone Bridges claiming that the father should have a say in abortion and then, when asked how it should be enforced, either whining about lawsuits or dodging the question entirely.

I don't. I think it will open the door to overturning of Roe V. Wade, and add another vote to back Scalia and Thomas' right wing agenda.

Oh, even if we completely leave Roe v Wade out, we just opened the door to the submission of individual rights to corporate rights.

Oh, even if we completely leave Roe v Wade out, we just opened the door to the submission of individual rights to corporate rights.
If you don't like the way that the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution and the law, then change the Constitution.

That's what you have a Congress for, eh? Of course, they don't have the balls to do anything - they want to legislate through the judiciary so that if anything becomes unpopular, they can disavow their actions.

That's why I also believe that even Democrats secretly crave a strong executive, so that they can disavow themselves from the actions of the President if it turns out to be unpopular.

The man's too conservative for my taste, but he seems well-versed in the law and perfectly able to carry out his duties, so I can't think of any reason not to confirm him beyond "I don't agree with his personal views." I vote yes. Let the man do the job.

The main problem about that the list of democrats you just mentioned and more will vote against the most highly trained person just as long as bush proposes him. I dont think any of them are fit to be in congress.

Which is no doubt why Chief Justice Roberts squeaked through on a 55-45 party line vote. Oh wait. . .

The simple fact is that there are three main categories that anybody looks for in a Supreme Court Justice: judicial temperment (are they emotionally suited for the role), knowledge of the law (how well-versed are they in the stuff they are going to be doing), and how they interpret the law. Justice Alito clearly had the judicial temperment and knowledge of the law requisite of a Supreme Court justice. But I agree with Democrats that his interpretations of the law often left a great deal to be desired, and his questioning revealed how perfectly opaque he was by revealing absolutely nothing. Let me be more elaborate.

As a candidate for a job in the Reagan administration, he explicitly wrote that he was proud of his attempts to whittle away at Roe v. Wade, and that he felt that it was good to do so. If so, then asking a person if he still feels that way is not asking him to pre-judge a case: clearly, he has already pre-judged it. Yet Alito dodged the question. As a federal judge, he showed repeated extreme deference to the executive, such as allowing federal wiretaps that had not recieved a search warrant. His rulings were repeatedly overturned by higher federal court authorities as being unreasonable interpretations of the law and ignoring precedent. Yet he dodged questions about those as well. His hearings seemed to reveal precisely nothing, which leads me to ask how the Senate can possibly give advice and consent on the matter.

Put simply, Alito was non-committal to the point of being dishonest, and as an honest man, I don't like and don't trust people who say and do things like that. While I'm hardly a fan of stare decisis (imagine if Plessy v. Ferguson had remaind law), at least I'm willing to say it out loud. Even more, I strongly disagree with the positions that he comes to. The fact that his poor wife cried during the hearings does not suddenly make him more qualified for the Supreme Court, but the fact that he will not allow the Senate a fair read of him to give their advice and consent does make him less qualified in my opinion.

To be honest, I just hope the Republicans reap what they sow with this nomination, because either way in the long term it will be devastating for the Republican Party. If Alito does strike down Roe v. Wade, it will put the Republicans in a permanent minority position for a decade. If Alito doesn't strike down Roe v. Wade, then you'll have a hard sell trying to get those cultural conservatives back under the tent. They deserve it for their brinksmanship with women's rights.

I don't. I think it will open the door to overturning of Roe V. Wade, and add another vote to back Scalia and Thomas' right wing agenda.

And your point would be...?

..what? That that's a bad thing?

Perhaps it's not a bad thing to someone else?

-Iakeo

I am very happy Alito was confirmed. KEEP AMERICA CONSERVATIVE!

Study the US from when it was actually a conservative country in the 1870s, 80s, and 90s.


In short, it sucked ass. I would never want to live in such a corrupt disgusting place like the US was then.

Another point. Kennedy has been around for so long! His brother died over 40 years ago and he is still in congress. Retire please!

Why? How long was stromm thrumond in office......

Another point. Kennedy has been around for so long! His brother died over 40 years ago and he is still in congress. Retire please!


Look, Massachusetts votes for him every single time they vote for a senator. Massachusetts wants Ted there. Are you against the way the Republic actually works? Would you like to dismantle it just so you don't have to deal with "the horrible old hippie liberal who can't know anything because he's such a liberalliberalliberal blaaablaablaaaaaaaaa!"?


Last time I checked, the US was a very liberal country.

Last time I checked, the US was a very liberal country.
That explains the presence of so many Republican Senators and Congressmen, and the Republican President.

Yep.

Was there ever any doubt that he would get confirmed?

I'm glad the filibuster was shot down the way it was. It shows that some democrats are actually sane, unlike Kerry/Clinton.
Yeah, damn those Democrats trying to prevent ass backwards idealogues from getting on the court.

Ahhh, it's a good day. Alito confirmed. Democrats turning on each other.
The Left in the US is FINISHED. All that's left to do is shove it in their faces so they can realize it just before the coffin gets nailed shut.

They can't run on what they truly believe because what they believe is repugnant to any serious person. Get used to being a minority party Democrats, it's going to be a long time before you control a branch of government again. Good riddance.

Howard Dean....BWAHAHAHAHA!

Ahhh, it's a good day. Alito confirmed. Democrats turning on each other.
The Left in the US is FINISHED. All that's left to do is shove it in their faces so they can realize it just before the coffin gets nailed shut.

They can't run on what they truly believe because what they believe is repugnant to any serious person. Get used to being a minority party Democrats, it's going to be a long time before you control a branch of government again. Good riddance.

Howard Dean....BWAHAHAHAHA!

PINEAPPLE!

Unfortunately, Alito's record with firearms scares the hell out of me.

He LIKES the idea of gun registration and strict controlls on firearms. Definitely NOT a standard conservative standpoint--more like a dictatorial standpoint. He scares me.