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Just watched "Flight 93."

Eutrusca
31-01-2006, 04:52
Very well done. Very tasteful, and as far as I can tell, accurate. My compliments to the producers.

Brings back some rather harrowing memories for me. My youngest daughter was in the Windows On the World restaurant atop one of the World Trade Center towers with some of her friends on 09/10. She was at the airport waiting for her plane to load when the towers were hit. Struck a bit too close to home for me to be comfortable with.
Wazistan
31-01-2006, 04:55
I don't post here much, but I also just finish watching Flight 93 and agree it was very well done.
CanuckHeaven
31-01-2006, 05:17
Was Flight 93 shot down, or did an act of heroism bring her down?

How Did United Flight 93 Crash? (http://www.flight93crash.com/)
imported_Berserker
31-01-2006, 05:28
Was Flight 93 shot down, or did an act of heroism bring her down?

How Did United Flight 93 Crash? (http://www.flight93crash.com/)
As a studying aerospace engineer, I'm certain it wasn't shot down.
As for eye witness reports, they are notoriusly unreliable, particularly in cases involving airplanes where most people don't know what they are seeing.
Achtung 45
31-01-2006, 05:31
As a studying aerospace engineer, I'm certain it wasn't shot down.
why? because pieces of the plane were scattered more than a mile away from the impact site? Im not going to argue this anyways, the Pentagon conspiracy is much more valid.
Eutrusca
31-01-2006, 05:33
Was Flight 93 shot down, or did an act of heroism bring her down?

How Did United Flight 93 Crash? (http://www.flight93crash.com/)
Get real.
Eutrusca
31-01-2006, 05:34
why? because pieces of the plane were scattered more than a mile away from the impact site? Im not going to argue this anyways, the Pentagon conspiracy is much more valid.
Ahh, Achtung 45! Abstruse as always.
imported_Berserker
31-01-2006, 05:34
why? because pieces of the plane were scattered more than a mile away from the impact site? Im not going to argue this anyways, the Pentagon conspiracy is much more valid.
Plane crashes regularly scatter debris over a large area.
You're talking about a vehicle moving a few hundred kph under normal conditions, faster in a dive. There's enough kinetic energy there to throw a whole engine hundreds of meters away.
Eutrusca
31-01-2006, 05:36
Plane crashes regularly scatter debris over a large area.
You're talking about a vehicle moving a few hundred kph under normal conditions, faster in a dive. There's enough kinetic energy there to throw a whole engine hundreds of meters away.
His approach has the same lack of knowledge behind it as those idiots who alledge that no plane crashed into the Pentagon because they can't find it. Sigh. :rolleyes:
Achtung 45
31-01-2006, 05:47
His approach has the same lack of knowledge behind it as those idiots who alledge that no plane crashed into the Pentagon because they can't find it. Sigh. :rolleyes:

what's your proof that it did crash into the Pentagon? Bush saying so?
Undelia
31-01-2006, 06:10
what's your proof that it did crash into the Pentagon? Bush saying so?
So, where did the explosion come from?

Come to think of it, though, I have never seen a recording of the crash. You think in DC someone would have had to have a camcorder on…
Achtung 45
31-01-2006, 06:18
So, where did the explosion come from?

Come to think of it, though, I have never seen a recording of the crash. You think in DC someone would have had to have a camcorder on…
That's because merely hours, minutes even (http://www.uscrusade.com/forum/config.pl/noframes/read/779) after the incident, the FBI confiscated the majority of surveillance tapes of that area. People don't film the Pentagon quite like they would the WTC. Anyways, they missed one tape, positioned in the Pentagon parking lot. All available evidence in the tape shows no plane, but rather a vague, white vapor trail followed by a high impact explosion.
Undelia
31-01-2006, 06:21
That's because merely hours, minutes even (http://www.uscrusade.com/forum/config.pl/noframes/read/779) after the incident, the FBI confiscated the majority of surveillance tapes of that area. People don't film the Pentagon quite like they would the WTC. Anyways, they missed one tape, positioned in the Pentagon parking lot. All available evidence in the tape shows no plane, but rather a vague, white vapor trail followed by a high impact explosion.
So, was it a missile or what?
The South Islands
31-01-2006, 06:23
Unless there is clear proof that the object that crashed into the pentagon was not an airplane, I am inclined to believe...well, everyone else.
CanuckHeaven
31-01-2006, 07:05
Get real.
I try to be real, each and every day of my life. Perhaps the people in this story (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143) are not "real"?

IF the plane was shot down, Skanksville PA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&cat=&address=&city=Shanksville&state=pa&zipcode=), would have been an ideal location, seeing that it was in the middle of nowhere, half way between Pittsburgh and Washington.
Santa Barbara
31-01-2006, 07:09
what's your proof that it did crash into the Pentagon? Bush saying so?

What's your proof that you are not a javascript program?
OntheRIGHTside
31-01-2006, 07:11
I try to be real, each and every day of my life. Perhaps the people in this story (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143) are not "real"?

IF the plane was shot down, Skanksville PA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&cat=&address=&city=Shanksville&state=pa&zipcode=), would have been an ideal location, seeing that it was in the middle of nowhere, half way between Pittsburgh and Washington.




This is completely unrelated...


But it owns that there's a city called "SKANKSVILLE"