NationStates Jolt Archive

Voter apathy is rising, and those that do vote are often Extremists or Fence-Sitters who cant make up their minds. (COUGH)LIBDEMS(COUGH) So my question is... had enough of democracy yet? it wont work, because we'll elect stupider and stupider people into power, and when we realise we're doing this we'll elect the maniacs. Btw vote communists 2016.
SOOOOoooo... any alternative modes of government that can.
A. Get things DONE
B. Not give too much power to the insane. (blinks)
C. Let the people be happy.
D. Not ruin the economy.

The thing is there's nothing to vote for anymore. They call themselves Labour or Liberal, but really there are only varying degrees of Nu-Conservatism. When was the last time that Labour made a policy which benefitted the working class?

Revert to a hunter gatherer mode of existence. Of course population would have to be way lower, (we're talking hundreds of millions) but it'd be worth it - hunter gatherer bands very seldom have developed heirarchies.

Voter apathy is rising, and those that do vote are often Extremists or Fence-Sitters who cant make up their minds. (COUGH)LIBDEMS(COUGH) So my question is... had enough of democracy yet? it wont work, because we'll elect stupider and stupider people into power, and when we realise we're doing this we'll elect the maniacs. Btw vote communists 2016.
SOOOOoooo... any alternative modes of government that can.
A. Get things DONE
B. Not give too much power to the insane. (blinks)
C. Let the people be happy.
D. Not ruin the economy.

Speaking as a maniac, I'd rather have Liberty, thanks. :)

The thing is there's nothing to vote for anymore. They call themselves Labour or Liberal, but really there are only varying degrees of Nu-Conservatism. When was the last time that Labour made a policy which benefitted the working class?

Minimum wage, billions of pounds invested in the NHS and they've made it easier for them to drink themselves to death.

I think it'a been pretty thoroughly demonstrated that totalitarianism produces worse leaders than democracy, and that's surely what this choice comes down to... we might not think much of our leaders, but that's why we can change them. At the moment we might have a bunch of cretins in power but it won't stay like it forever, and that'll always be better than the alternative.

I resent the Lib Dem slur too - some might vote for them out of frustration or indecision but there are plenty of legitimate reasons for preferring the party over Labour and the Conservatives too. And not just the recent indications that we're all thoroughly depraved, either. :p

Simple little idea. Elect the cabinet directly by public vote, but double up every position. That way, people vote for the people they think would suit the job best rather than the side that adopts a particular leaning (so they get the Prime Minister they want).

wait are you actually saying we shouldnt have democracy?

SOOOOoooo... any alternative modes of government that can.
A. Get things DONE
B. Not give too much power to the insane. (blinks)
C. Let the people be happy.
D. Not ruin the economy.
No. Look at history buddy.

Revert to a hunter gatherer mode of existence. Of course population would have to be way lower, (we're talking hundreds of millions) but it'd be worth it - hunter gatherer bands very seldom have developed heirarchies.

every society has a heirarchy, even hunter gatherers. Chiefs/chieftans became princes and kings over time. All tribes needed a leader or leaders. It may have been an oligarchy where a group of elders or tribesmen made the important decisions about moving camp or going to war, but every group has some kind of leadership and hence some kind of social heirarchy.

Revert to a hunter gatherer mode of existence. Of course population would have to be way lower, (we're talking hundreds of millions) but it'd be worth it - hunter gatherer bands very seldom have developed heirarchies.
Please say you're not a primmo, right!?

The lib dem thing??
Conservatives say they'll lower taxes without lowering spending..................impossible

Labour say they'll raise spending without raiseing taxes................impossible

Lib dems said they'd raise spending and might have to raise taxes...........why not? You want more you pay more. Plus a substatial amount of that more can come from the wealthy who get far too many tax breaks for my liking.
P.S. I don't hate rich people as I will probabley be one some day.

Revert to a hunter gatherer mode of existence. Of course population would have to be way lower, (we're talking hundreds of millions) but it'd be worth it - hunter gatherer bands very seldom have developed heirarchies.

Just wait until the bird flu mutates and then makes its rounds.

Just wait until the bird flu mutates and then makes its rounds.
i'm working on it :p

People are always going to be miserable.
At least in a representative government you can CHOOSE who it is that makes you miserable.

I'm thinking post-bird flu.... I advocate democracy, but only on the polis level. Thats right, it is once again time for small city-states!

Voter apathy is rising, and those that do vote are often Extremists or Fence-Sitters who cant make up their minds. (COUGH)LIBDEMS(COUGH) So my question is... had enough of democracy yet? it wont work, because we'll elect stupider and stupider people into power, and when we realise we're doing this we'll elect the maniacs. Btw vote communists 2016.
SOOOOoooo... any alternative modes of government that can.
A. Get things DONE
B. Not give too much power to the insane. (blinks)
C. Let the people be happy.
D. Not ruin the economy.


Funny, thats the same argument I've heard made by the fascist camp. Then again, historically the only difference between fascists and communists was the rhetoric anyway.