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The United Kingdom.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/uk.html

Does the UK still have a major role to play in todays world?

Are we the little kid that follows the bully round looking hard?

Or are we truly a great nation?

By ourselves we are quite weak.
But we hold MASSIVE influence.
I think what the country needs is a good decade of tyranny... (vote communists) So that people will shape up. Also we need to get our head out of america's ass and into europe's Boosom....mmm....boosom..

A once-great nation who has stood up the longest to EU wussification, but will sadly eventually succumb.

I like the name.

I like the name.

The you should vote communists! we'll change it to something BETTER :)

like... er... Peebles.

Great country, superb

I am British/English from England UK

We never say 'smashing, tip top, tally ho! Good show old boy! ' I am offended apologise :mad:

Hahahah, I like the way the Illegal Drugs section is hidden away at the bottom in the hope no one will see it :D.

We still are a great nation, unfortunately we appear to have landed the lets face it, unenviable job OF keeping the US and the EU from getting close enough to wave their willies at each other.

Trust us perverse British to end up slap in the middle. :P




We never say 'smashing, tip top, tally ho! Good show old boy! ' I am offended apologise :mad:

I do at every available opportunity.

Very few other nations contain lots of people who deliberately act like their steriotype.

What's not to like? It's not America. I mean, yeah, it's America Lite, but it could be much much worse, I'm sure.

That said, I'd still probably not live there as it currently is....unless it's just to get out of America.

Great country, superb

I am British/English from England UK

We never say 'smashing, tip top, tally ho! Good show old boy! ' I am offended apologise :mad:
Um, I get the feeling that the fact that you all DON'T say crap like that was the point. Or did that entirely go over everybody's head?

Besides, I get the feeling that Philthealbino is probably from the UK too, otherwise he would've phrased his post differently.

No.

Im English/British myself.

Besides, its fun making Americans actually think we walk around in top hats as if we are extras in Charles Dickens' Oliver.

You Brits are ok in my book. You guys arent your average europeans, which is good. Maybe its cause your stuck on that island;) You guys got a pair and are a good ally to the US. cheers and good show ol boy.

You guys arent your average europeans, which is good.
Sorry?

You Brits are ok in my book. You guys arent your average europeans, which is good. Maybe its cause your stuck on that island;) You guys got a pair and are a good ally to the US. cheers thank you

thank you
Sorry?!

Simonist']Um, I get the feeling that the fact that you all DON'T say crap like that was the point. Or did that entirely go over everybody's head?

Besides, I get the feeling that Philthealbino is probably from the UK too, otherwise he would've phrased his post differently. Well it is a tad rude I don't bag them out

Sorry?! Pardon

Besides, its fun making Americans actually think we walk around in top hats as if we are extras in Charles Dickens' Oliver.
Excuse me, man, we don't all think that.....I mean, well, I'd like to, but I know that it's a sad bit of mis-information. But believe me, grasping that grain of truth was as hard as the day I realized my life will never be as awesome as a Pepsi commerical :(

Sorry?!

Indeed. AMericans consider us there Sister Nation, we are in fact the father nation dammit! buuut if you want to be like that we're the son living with his mother nation who keeps trying to push her down the stairs.(blinks) thats two blinks in one day! im going native.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

You Brits are ok in my book. You guys arent your average europeans, which is good. Maybe its cause your stuck on that island You guys got a pair and are a good ally to the US. cheers and good show

thank you

Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?

I say, we are quite the character, what!

What a perfectly amusing jape that was, tricking the Americans about our manner of speech!

Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?

What do you think?

What do you think?
Apparently according to some posters, no.

Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?
Yea.

Bloody southerners :p

Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?
Don't worry, my pet.....I still love the rest of you plenty, whomever that entails.

Yea.

Bloody southerners :p

*sticks out tongue*
Screw you Nadkor :D :p

:fluffle:

Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?

Not really.

I think its funny how the americans fink of us whering top hats and drinkin tea. If you look britain is always on the side of good eg. the g8 summit what did we choose as the maain topics poverty + global warming. We are the spearhead of global problems like this. I am british, proud and wouldn't be anyhting else. Simplay smashing lol.

Could be better, I suppose, but could be worse. So here comes a cynical brit's primer on improving one's nation:

Get rid of the Benefit Cheats!
Yes, it's time to get the royals throne out. As well as the lord mayors, lord lieutennants, dukes, viscounts, marquesses, chancellors, royal regiments and whatnot. All their property can go to English Heritage (or equivilant in Scotland, Wales and N.I.). Make the Prime Minister a President, so when they flounce off as head of State (which they do do abroad anyways) they can at least have a real mandate to do it.

Burn the chavs!
Any true Brit knows what i'm on about. Frankly the little eleven year old shits who hang around my railway station at night (And not paying the £6.60 ticket either) smoking, drinking (at eleven years old, yes) and trying to feel their epiglotti with their tounges ought to be killed. Slowly. In an interseting fashion. They simply ought to die. The closest i've got to killing one is getting the Bill to send 6 units after some who tried to run me over while I was out cycling. I hoped they'd give chase and the plebs would crash into a ditch, but apparently they didn't. Better luck next time.

Get rid of FPTP!
The reason we have flip-flopping centrist government (and thus crap services) on a permanant basis is because of FPTP. Get STV like in Ireland, and let the Tories be right, labour be left (when pigs fly....) and Lib Dems can...well, they can sort themselves out. But no FPTP=No Blair=happier Britain.

Replace Northern Ireland
Give N.I. back to Ireland (if they want to) and then attach outboard motors to South Africa. Attach south Africa to where n.i. is. This will improve English Cricket considerably.

Free School Lunches!
Frankly, i'm pissed off that people in other countries don't have to pay for their lunches at school. We have to pay for a canteen that's not open, and when we do it's £1.70 for a flatbread and £0.40 for a small, shite cup of hot milk and water, masquerading as tea. It's a farce.

Get an English Parliament
We don't want any of this 'Euro-regions' crap. We want a proper federation. Then England gets buggered by the conservative government it apparently wants without it effecting the rest of the country, who want to be buggered by Phoney Tony.

See? sensible policies for a happier Britain!

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?





Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits?

I dont want to have to spell it out, someone might get offended. Just curious where do you hail from?

I think its funny how the americans fink of us whering top hats and drinkin tea. If you look britain is always on the side of good eg. the g8 summit what did we choose as the maain topics poverty + global warming. We are the spearhead of global problems like this. I am british, proud and wouldn't be anyhting else. Simplay smashing lol.
Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar?

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? ;)

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?





Are the rest of us not worthy of being seen in the same light as you holy Brits? was not saying that don't put words in my mouth

Simonist']Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar?

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? ;)


Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar? we dont

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? yes we did

Could be better, I suppose, but could be worse. So here comes a cynical brit's primer on improving one's nation:

Get rid of the Benefit Cheats!
Yes, it's time to get the royals throne out. As well as the lord mayors, lord lieutennants, dukes, viscounts, marquesses, chancellors, royal regiments and whatnot. All their property can go to English Heritage (or equivilant in Scotland, Wales and N.I.). Make the Prime Minister a President, so when they flounce off as head of State (which they do do abroad anyways) they can at least have a real mandate to do it.

Burn the chavs!
Any true Brit knows what i'm on about. Frankly the little eleven year old shits who hang around my railway station at night (And not paying the £6.60 ticket either) smoking, drinking (at eleven years old, yes) and trying to feel their epiglotti with their tounges ought to be killed. Slowly. In an interseting fashion. They simply ought to die. The closest i've got to killing one is getting the Bill to send 6 units after some who tried to run me over while I was out cycling. I hoped they'd give chase and the plebs would crash into a ditch, but apparently they didn't. Better luck next time.

Get rid of FPTP!
The reason we have flip-flopping centrist government (and thus crap services) on a permanant basis is because of FPTP. Get STV like in Ireland, and let the Tories be right, labour be left (when pigs fly....) and Lib Dems can...well, they can sort themselves out. But no FPTP=No Blair=happier Britain.

Replace Northern Ireland
Give N.I. back to Ireland (if they want to) and then attach outboard motors to South Africa. Attach south Africa to where n.i. is. This will improve English Cricket considerably.

Free School Lunches!
Frankly, i'm pissed off that people in other countries don't have to pay for their lunches at school. We have to pay for a canteen that's not open, and when we do it's £1.70 for a flatbread and £0.40 for a small, shite cup of hot milk and water, masquerading as tea. It's a farce.

Get an English Parliament
We don't want any of this 'Euro-regions' crap. We want a proper federation. Then England gets buggered by the conservative government it apparently wants without it effecting the rest of the country, who want to be buggered by Phoney Tony.

See? sensible policies for a happier Britain!


(Drools) apart from the N.I bit i think your a god!!!! run for parliament man! ;p

*sticks out tongue*
Screw you Nadkor :D :p

:fluffle:
Aye, :p love you too

Simonist']Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar?

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? ;)

Of course, using the word "like" at entirely inappropriate places makes fantastic English too.

It'd be nice if you could learn how to spell colour, labour, defence... I could go on!

was not saying that don't put words in my mouth
I wasn't. That was what I was gettled ruffled for. You condoned the post saying 'better then average Europeans'.

*sigh* Never mind.
An old man fighting a lost battle against English youth of today....
Ow, my back....

Aye, :p love you too

Bah. Damn your sexy accents. Weak at the knees. :D

Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar? we dont

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? yes we did

No, the French, Germans and Dutch did!

Of course, using the word "like" at entirely inappropriate places makes fantastic English too.

It'd be nice if you could learn how to spell colour, labour, defence... I could go on!
Nice try, Maelog. The "like" was meant to be, what's it called....ah, ironic. Learn the concept. And I do spell those types of words "correctly", as you say, so if you feel the need to go on, please do so. You're not going to shame me in the least bit.

I wasn't. That was what I was gettled ruffled for. You condoned the post saying 'better then average Europeans'.

*sigh* Never mind.
An old man fighting a lost battle against English youth of today....
Ow, my back.... fair enough sorry

(Drools) apart from the N.I bit i think your a god!!!! run for parliament man! ;p

If I didn't live in a seat where the Tories have a 11,000 vote majority!

well maybe if you became a blue boy then you could rise to the top etc.

Simonist']Do all the British have such wretched spelling and grammar?

I mean damn, didn't you people, like, invent the damn language? ;)

No we do not. unfortunately that is how the other 1% spell.

And please do not get me started on the language....(american english, pfah!)

No, the French, Germans and Dutch did! Huge mix what with Vikings, Romans, Normans and Celts

No we do not. unfortunately that is how the other 1% spell.

And please do not get me started on the language....(american english, pfah!)
As I already stated, had you read it, I don't care if you get started on the language. I live a day-to-day quest to get people like you to get started on the language. If you could whip America's butt in to shape over even just the spelling inaccuracies, maybe I'd quit getting lower marks by my teachers.

Simonist']Nice try, Maelog. The "like" was meant to be, what's it called....ah, ironic. Learn the concept. And I do spell those types of words "correctly", as you say, so if you feel the need to go on, please do so. You're not going to shame me in the least bit.

An American understanding irony?

Now that would be newsworthy...

I like colours. And habours. And the theatre is fantastic. There's other spellings too, like sulfer and sulpher (I think). The Empire's English is so difficult to spell sometimes, I wish I never learned phonetics. :p

Bah. Damn your sexy accents. Weak at the knees. :D
Haha, a nice southern accent beats a northern one any day ;)

Let us not get so personal

I like colours. And habours. And the theatre is fantastic. There's other spellings too, like sulfer and sulpher (I think). The Empire's English is so difficult to spell sometimes, I wish I never learned phonetics. :p

Its Sulphur.
Rawr!
Hehe. One thing us brits do very well is sarcasm. ofcourse you americans would know all about that. ;)

Let us not get so personal
Says the man who was offended so easily by another Brit's joke..... :rolleyes:

Its Sulphur.
Rawr!
Hehe. One thing us brits do very well is sarcasm. ofcourse you americans would know all about that. ;) see post
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The United Kingdom.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/uk.html

Does the UK still have a major role to play in todays world?

Are we the little kid that follows the bully round looking hard?

Or are we truly a great nation?
decent country. many facets to be proud of but many to also be ashamed of. long, varied history.

lots of influence and decent economy, but we can't compete in the modern economic-political climate, and even less so in the future. people who claim britain would be stronger if we stood on our own two feet are living in the past. the reality of modern world politics and economics necessitates us forming stronger bonds and closer union with the EU in both economic and political ways.

Its Sulphur.
Rawr!
Hehe. One thing us brits do very well is sarcasm. ofcourse you americans would know all about that. ;)

I love british comedy, its unique.

Warning, if American producers ever try to do to Little Britan what they did to the Office, i will personally fly over to the states and disembowel anybody remotely responsible.

decent country. many facets to be proud of but many to also be ashamed of. long, varied history.

lots of influence and decent economy, but we can't compete in the modern economic-political climate, and even less so in the future. people who claim britain would be stronger if we stood on our own two feet are living in the past. the reality of modern world politics and economics necessitates us forming stronger bonds and closer union with the EU in both economic and political ways.

People who think Europe is the future are living in the past!

Could be better, I suppose, but could be worse. So here comes a cynical brit's primer on improving one's nation:

Get rid of the Benefit Cheats!
Yes, it's time to get the royals throne out. As well as the lord mayors, lord lieutennants, dukes, viscounts, marquesses, chancellors, royal regiments and whatnot. All their property can go to English Heritage (or equivilant in Scotland, Wales and N.I.). Make the Prime Minister a President, so when they flounce off as head of State (which they do do abroad anyways) they can at least have a real mandate to do it.

Bah, the regimental system is the envy of the world. (So in that sense I suppose it would be a very british thing to want to abolish it.)


Burn the chavs!
Any true Brit knows what i'm on about. Frankly the little eleven year old shits who hang around my railway station at night (And not paying the £6.60 ticket either) smoking, drinking (at eleven years old, yes) and trying to feel their epiglotti with their tounges ought to be killed. Slowly. In an interseting fashion. They simply ought to die. The closest i've got to killing one is getting the Bill to send 6 units after some who tried to run me over while I was out cycling. I hoped they'd give chase and the plebs would crash into a ditch, but apparently they didn't. Better luck next time.

Nonsense. The chavs form an essential part of the strategic manpower reserve. In times of great crisis they can be conscripted as cannon fodder without much undue fuss. No other nation has that advantage.

In any case, the chavs have always been there and always will, they are as english as tea.

Get rid of FPTP!
The reason we have flip-flopping centrist government (and thus crap services) on a permanant basis is because of FPTP. Get STV like in Ireland, and let the Tories be right, labour be left (when pigs fly....) and Lib Dems can...well, they can sort themselves out. But no FPTP=No Blair=happier Britain.

FPTP is an excellent system. It allows PMs with less than 40% of popular vote to assume virtually dictatorial powers. No other nation boasts that.

Replace Northern Ireland
Give N.I. back to Ireland (if they want to) and then attach outboard motors to South Africa. Attach south Africa to where n.i. is. This will improve English Cricket considerably.

Actually, it would improve Irish cricket, such as it is, owing to the fact that NI residents play for Ireland, not england. (ECCB = England and Wales, not the whole UK).

Free School Lunches!
Frankly, i'm pissed off that people in other countries don't have to pay for their lunches at school. We have to pay for a canteen that's not open, and when we do it's £1.70 for a flatbread and £0.40 for a small, shite cup of hot milk and water, masquerading as tea. It's a farce.

Just as the UK ended international slavery, it should address this issue not by providing free school lunches in england, but by making everyone else in the world pay for theirs.

Get an English Parliament
We don't want any of this 'Euro-regions' crap. We want a proper federation. Then England gets buggered by the conservative government it apparently wants without it effecting the rest of the country, who want to be buggered by Phoney Tony.

I've long believed in the wisdom of disenfranchising Scotland. (Sheep fckers). Everyday I pray for an English only parliament, which would spell the begining of unending tory rule.

See? sensible policies for a happier Britain!

Actually they are not bad. Apart from the chav and cricket thing.

Meh, not too bad of a counrty, apart from the chavs. Pick on of those small islands and put all the chavs there with something to vandalise and maybe some fags and they'll be grand. The whole world wil be a better place if chavs were removed from the eyes of the public and the media.

Well, I think the UK has had its glory days, and what glorious days those were! But I beleive modern England is just eh. In my opinion you guys let your labor unions get too much power, to where they are (almost, maybe) above the law. You guys also have gotten to soft on political correctness, but other than that I beleive it is a fine country, with great people.

When I went there, back in the 90's, the people were great and the food honestly wasnt as bad as everyone said it would be:p

From what I've heard, it's a decent place, though I really think it could get rid of the monarchy.

[QUOTE='[NS]Simonist']What's not to like? It's not America.
[/ QUOTE]
Ooo thats low. But I agree!:)

A once great nation which is now beeing controled by it's former colony.

Well, I think the UK has had its glory days, and what glorious days those were! But I beleive modern England is just eh. In my opinion you guys let your labor unions get too much power, to where they are (almost, maybe) above the law. You guys also have gotten to soft on political correctness, but other than that I beleive it is a fine country, with great people.

When I went there, back in the 90's, the people were great and the food honestly wasnt as bad as everyone said it would be:p

Maggie Thatcher did for the unions in the 1980s, but sadly under the present government they seem to be reviving. Bloody tube strikes! (metro for you colonials)

We still have the potential to play a major role on the world stage, but sadly certain defeatist elements seem to think that it would be better to become part of an anonymous European super state.

From what I've heard, it's a decent place, though I really think it could get rid of the monarchy.

The monarchy IS Britain, just as the Stars and Stripes is America. Despite what some republicans say, it's unlikely the union would endure without a hereditary head of state.

The world really could do without "The People's Republic of Scotland".

Maggie Thatcher did for the unions in the 1980s, but sadly under the present government they seem to be reviving. Bloody tube strikes! (metro for you colonials)

We still have the potential to play a major role on the world stage, but sadly certain defeatist elements seem to think that it would be better to become part of an anonymous European super state.

Yeah...Thatcher, in my opinon, was one of the better things to happen to England in a long time, along with Reagan in America.

Anyway, even though I realize support for my government is not high in your country, I am very supportive of your people and your government for helping us out in times of need. Most of the American Right that I know, feels the same way.

People who think Europe is the future are living in the past!
care to expand on that point?

Yeah...Thatcher, in my opinon, was one of the better things to happen to England in a long time, along with Reagan in America.

Anyway, even though I realize support for my government is not high in your country, I am very supportive of your people and your government for helping us out in times of need. Most of the American Right that I know, feels the same way.

If I was American I would would be a Republican!

*hides under bushel from Guardian-reading urban-dwelling lefties*

care to expand on that point?

It would take days... there are plenty of websites you can look at to save yourself some time, I suggest you start with globalbritain.org

[QUOTE=Maelog]If I was American I would would be a Republican![QUOTE]

Amen, lol....Well, no one is stopping you from moving here. Whats the hold up, South Florida is beautiful this time of year.*


*Actually its beautiful any time of year because we dont have seasons.:p

I like colours. And habours. And the theatre is fantastic. There's other spellings too, like sulfer and sulpher (I think). The Empire's English is so difficult to spell sometimes, I wish I never learned phonetics. :p
I like colors, habors, labor, and theater. I also watch soccer, but whats in a name?

I enjoy the UK and love the people there. I country have strong, resourceful people which care a lot about everything.

However, as an American, why are most people being so disapproving of us? We are not a horrible country and we make our share of mistakes..Bush..., but all and all we are a good country. I like to think that most people believe that for the most part that the American public are good, hard-working, decent people.

[QUOTE=Maelog]If I was American I would would be a Republican![QUOTE]

Amen, lol....Well, no one is stopping you from moving here. Whats the hold up, South Florida is beautiful this time of year.*


*Actually its beautiful any time of year because we dont have seasons.:p

America is a fantastic place to visit (in fact I'm going to NYC in April, come see me :P), but I don't think I could live there. No BBC, no S4C, no Howarths, no Trafalgar Square, no St. Pauls... hell I'd probably miss the weather!

And I couldn't be a Republican... the very name is treasonous! If only you were called Tories...

care to expand on that point?

I think he means that the EU, while a good idea in principal, has failed to live up to its alleged promise, and therefore being pro europe at this point is a rather backward looking perspective.

Personally, I think that william should be married off to that japanese princess chick, and then the japanese/uk/can/aus/nz crowns can be unified. Then, all those countries can unify creating a super nation, with tonnes of smarty pants people, lots of natural reasources, and a really good car industy.

It would kick so much more ass than the fourth reich - I mean the EU.

I think he means that the EU, while a good idea in principal, has failed to live up to its alleged promise, and therefore being pro europe at this point is a rather backward looking perspective.

Personally, I think that william should be married off to that japanese princess chick, and then the japanese/uk/can/aus/nz crowns can be unified. Then, all those countries can unify creating a super nation, with tonnes of smarty pants people, lots of natural reasources, and a really good car industy.

It would kick so much more ass than the fourth reich - I mean the EU.

Calling the EU the Fourth Reich? Good show old boy!

I enjoy the UK and love the people there. The country have strong, resourceful people which care a lot about everything.

However, as American, why are most people so disapproving us? We are not a horrible country and we make our share of mistakes..Bush..., but all and all we are a good country. I like to think that most people believe that for the most part that the American public are good, hard-working, decent people.

Calling the EU the Fourth Reich? Good show old boy!

Well it's pretty obvious that it's just another blatant attempt by the germans at world domination. Just this time through the back door.

If I was American I would would be a Republican!

*hides under bushel from Guardian-reading urban-dwelling lefties*
Rawr!

*Attacks, Red-squirrel style*

:D

Actually, the Conservative party is starting to look like a pretty good call this time around. But that won't stop me reading the Guardian. ^_^

But the less said about Thatcher, the better, I reckon. >_>;

Well it's pretty obvious that it's just another blatant attempt by the germans at world domination. Just this time through the back door.

You can at least credit them with persistance...

No.

Im English/British myself.

Besides, its fun making Americans actually think we walk around in top hats as if we are extras in Charles Dickens' Oliver.

really?

i figured you all looked like Wayne Rooney and Posh Spice!

hehe

really?

i figured you all looked like Wayne Rooney and Posh Spice!

hehe

Please... not all of us have Neanderthal DNA.

Rawr!

*Attacks, Red-squirrel style*

:D

Actually, the Conservative party is starting to look like a pretty good call this time around. But that won't stop me reading the Guardian. ^_^

But the less said about Thatcher, the better, I reckon. >_>;

What was wrong with Thatcher...I heard she was like the English Ronald Regean, that puts her on a Siant like level here in America.

What was wrong with Thatcher...I heard she was like the English Ronald Regean, that puts her on a Siant like level here in America.

Less than half the country voted for her... and the inevitable industrial collapse she unleashed in the Midlands, South Wales and Scotland means that no Tory MPs have been elected there since the 1980s. Most people either loved her or hated her, and it's typically the haters who shout the loudest.

Less than half the country voted for her... and the inevitable industrial collapse she unleashed in the Midlands, South Wales and Scotland means that no Tory MPs have been elected there since the 1980s. Most people either loved her or hated her, and it's typically the haters who shout the loudest.

Those places are all horrible anyway. The true north is still tory.

Plus I was under the impression that only the good people of east finchley actually voted for her.

Less than half the country voted for her... and the inevitable industrial collapse she unleashed in the Midlands, South Wales and Scotland means that no Tory MPs have been elected there since the 1980s. Most people either loved her or hated her, and it's typically the haters who shout the loudest.

Best post-war politician quite essentially, and incidentally, less proportionally voted for labour in 2005 and in terms of land mass of seats, less than Major's administration.

What was wrong with Thatcher...I heard she was like the English Ronald Regean, that puts her on a Siant like level here in America.
Basically, she wanted the UK to be more like the States in the way in which business and politics worked. Take from that what you will.

The United Kingdom.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/uk.html

Does the UK still have a major role to play in todays world?

Are we the little kid that follows the bully round looking hard?

Or are we truly a great nation?
There will always be a United Kingdom. ( Doesn't have quite the ring that "there will always be an England" has, but the principle still applies. ) :D

Basically, she wanted the UK to be more like the States in the way in which business and politics worked. Take from that what you will.

Obviously I'm a biased source, but to me thats one of the best things I can hear from a Euro politician. Sort like with Merkel, I backed her all the way.

Those places are all horrible anyway. The true north is still tory.

Plus I was under the impression that only the good people of east finchley actually voted for her.

As horrible as everyone living south of Watford thinks anything north of Watford is, it's still a part of the UK. It's surprising that the country holds together, considering we all seem to hate each other!:fluffle:

As horrible as everyone living south of Watford thinks anything north of Watford is, it's still a part of the UK. It's surprising that the country holds together, considering we all seem to hate each other!:fluffle:

Actually, Northumberland, Cumbria, North Yorkshire &c. are all very nice.

It's the middle bit, and wales, I don't like.

Actually, Northumberland, Cumbria, North Yorkshire &c. are all very nice.

It's the middle bit, and wales, I don't like.

I've never visited the north of England... Anybody from those parts?

Wales is great! Well the north is at least... The bit where they still speak their own language.

Actually, Northumberland, Cumbria, North Yorkshire &c. are all very nice.

It's the middle bit, and wales, I don't like.

Well since I was Born in Scotland with relatives in the middle bit and Wales...

I've never visited the north of England... Anybody from those parts?

Wales is great! Well the north is at least... The bit where they still speak their own language.

I grew up in the North East. Hence my dislike of all things welsh and scottish.

Does the UK still have a major role to play in todays world?
yes. what that is i don't know.

Are we the little kid that follows the bully round looking hard?
ye lost me.. that just doesn't make any sense. you people are weird.

Or are we truly a great nation?
you were once a great nation.. back when you colonized the shit out of everyone with that imperialist je ne sais qua. now you're just a tourist destination for people like my parents.. pubs, the english countryside, pubs, historic sites, pubs, shopping, etc. i think the history and architecture (old stuff) and countryside (gardens and so on) are absolutely amazing. but i wouldn't want to live there, i don't especially enjoy the people, nor do i like that type of rain and cloud and rain that i experienced there.

I've long believed in the wisdom of disenfranchising Scotland. (Sheep fckers).


That's the WELSH! The WELSH dammit!

The Scots eat haggis and occasionally launch plundering raids on Wembley when they win a game against England (not a chance).

The midlands suck. Leicester really sucks. That's all I need to say on that subject.

Thatcher was a fiend of the worst kind, damn Bluebottle voting for her (please tell me there's another Goon fan who gets that). The US is not a nation I wish us to resemble thank you, we've done fairly well for ourselves without kicking our workforce in the nuts. (Mind you, she did manage to reduce the unions which needed doing, Scargill was almost running the damned nation).

The US is not a nation I wish us to resemble thank you.

Your loss.....:cool:

We're Britannia you insolent whelp! Rule Britannia, 'eh wort wort!

That's the WELSH! The WELSH dammit!

The Scots eat haggis and occasionally launch plundering raids on Wembley when they win a game against England (not a chance).

The midlands suck. Leicester really sucks. That's all I need to say on that subject.

Thatcher was a fiend of the worst kind, damn Bluebottle voting for her (please tell me there's another Goon fan who gets that). The US is not a nation I wish us to resemble thank you, we've done fairly well for ourselves without kicking our workforce in the nuts. (Mind you, she did manage to reduce the unions which needed doing, Scargill was almost running the damned nation).

Assuming goon implies Arsenal, I propose to gloat as a United fan. Whose invincible now? eh? eh?

bye bye Henry and Cole, enjoy Spain....:p

I've never visited the north of England... Anybody from those parts?

Wales is great! Well the north is at least... The bit where they still speak their own language.

I was born in Leeds and currently at Uni in Sheffield, but spent most of my life in the west midlands. I've always preferred Yorkshire though - I agree that for the most part the midlands sucks. There are some nice places in it, but the majority of other parts of the country I visit seem better.

Assuming goon implies Arsenal, I propose to gloat as a United fan. Whose invincible now? eh? eh?

bye bye Henry and Cole, enjoy Spain....:p

No damn you! The Goon Show! Sellers, Seacombe and Milligan, the Pythons of the 50's!

They're re-running the shows on Radio 7, listen to the playbacks

That's the WELSH! The WELSH dammit!


I'm a borders man. And I can assure you that sheep fucking is one of the many vile 'egyptian' practices the scotch indulge in.

The welsh too of course.

Vegetarianistica']nor do i like that type of rain and cloud and rain that i experienced there.
Ah the old 'rain and cloud and rain'. Did you by any chance experience any 'cloud and rain and cloud' while you were out there? My personal favourite is the 'cloud and rain and rain'. That's what makes Britain great, the variety of the weather.

Vegetarianistica']
now you're just a tourist destination for people like my parents.. pubs, the english countryside, pubs, historic sites, pubs, shopping, etc. i think the history and architecture (old stuff) and countryside (gardens and so on) are absolutely amazing. but i wouldn't want to live there, i don't especially enjoy the people, nor do i like that type of rain and cloud and rain that i experienced there.

Yet you'll proudly say you're from minnesota?

By ourselves we are quite weak.
But we hold MASSIVE influence.
I think what the country needs is a good decade of tyranny... (vote communists) So that people will shape up. Also we need to get our head out of america's ass and into europe's Boosom....mmm....boosom..
Know countrty is perfect and if the place has a problem then America can be a grate back up.

Yet you'll proudly say you're from minnesota?

minnesota's far worse:

snow and freezing cold for half the year. And a good part of the winter is spent in below-zero temperatures (fahrenheit)

i know; i grew up in northern wisconsin, which is more or less the same -- tons of lakes and shit-ass cold -- as minnesota.

Could be better, I suppose, but could be worse. So here comes a cynical brit's primer on improving one's nation:

Get rid of the Benefit Cheats! [anti-royalist]

Burn the chavs! [anti-delinquent]

Get rid of FPTP! [pro-STV]

Replace Northern Ireland [solving the Irish question with plate techtonics]

Free School Lunches! [proj Jamie?]

Get an English Parliament [devolution starts at home]

See? sensible policies for a happier Britain!

Hmm, I'm a pro-royalist, I suspect (certainly relative to you) and disagree on that.
Youth of today, though... They have no respect, I agree. Maybe the clip round the ear should be revived?
On the voting mechanism, I've got a better idea, altogether, but it'd take a while to explain and nobody would want to implement it...
On Ireland, if the NIish want to stay, let them stay... Still, we do need to improve the cricket team.
Regarding the lunches, I always used to go home for dinner, until college.
And I'm a great fan of a Yorkshire Parliament. (Apparently there was a referendum about that, but I don't remember getting a vote on that...)

minnesota's far worse:

snow and freezing cold for half the year. And a good part of the winter is spent in below-zero temperatures (fahrenheit)

i know; i grew up in northern wisconsin, which is more or less the same -- tons of lakes and shit-ass cold -- as minnesota.

Good ol' Wisconsin weeds out the weaklings :D

What was wrong with Thatcher...I heard she was like the English Ronald Regean, that puts her on a Siant like level here in America.Bear in mind I always liked Ronald Regan (grew up with him as the "nice uncle who occasinally visited mama Thatcher..." ;)), but I think the traditional argument is that he was 'like the American Margaret Thatcher', and thus totalitarian...

(But I was young, and was only not young once Regan had been replaced but Thatcher was still going, and living in the coalfields all of that time... That should explain the general air of grievance I grew up surrounded by..!)

FREE SCOTLAND! OY! *adventurous bagpipe music*

In any case, the chavs have always been there and always will, they are as english as tea.

Ah, so Chinese then.

UK's nice, but I do wish people would get over this whole North/South divide thing, It's South East/every bugger else divide damn it!:mad:

Ah, so Chinese then.

I am glad someone finally picked up on that.

UK's nice, but I do wish people would get over this whole North/South divide thing, It's South East/every bugger else divide damn it!:mad:

That's true. Though it's progress from the days when it was home counties vs. everybody else.

That's why half of cockneyland ended up in Australia. (thieving bastards).

Vegetarianistica']ye lost me.. that just doesn't make any sense. you people are weird.


I mean do we just follow America around trying to look powerful or do we geniuinely have influence upon the world?

Ah, so Chinese then.

UK's nice, but I do wish people would get over this whole North/South divide thing, It's South East/every bugger else divide damn it!:mad:

Try being a Scot (albeit one who's lived in England for a long time) who now lives in Essex. One maths textbook at school actually has a question along the lines of "20% of the population of Edinburgh have a colour TV set and 35% a refrigerator. What is the maximum amount that may have both?" Yet people actually think anything north of Watford and west of Middlesex is a barbarian wasteland where perople live off unemployment benefits. It's maddening.

After the amout of innocent irish and Northern irish they have killed over the years I wouldent give them the time of day!

I voted could be worse.

After the amout of innocent irish and Northern irish they have killed over the years I wouldent give them the time of day!

I voted could be worse.

Of course, those evil doers who dared to commit the crime of being English deserved to be killed by the IRA and therefore were not innocent, right? :rolleyes:

FREE SCOTLAND! OY! *adventurous bagpipe music*

...bloody celts.

THERE ISNT A SCOTTISH CULTURE (knocks on your head) well... actually its less true of scottish culture but Welsh culture is so minutely different from enlgish nowadays theres no point

scotland cant sustain itself, your regional population is growing, but people move away so your Real population is shrinking. So No. No independant scotland lest you starve and go "Arrgh" and muck up the uk.

Of course, those evil doers who dared to commit the crime of being English deserved to be killed by the IRA and therefore were not innocent, right? :rolleyes:
Oh, come on! You didn't have to bring this up again did you!? :rolleyes:

Oh, come on! You didn't have to bring this up again did you!? :rolleyes:

Actually I was responding to a comment. I don't try to bring it up, and I don't like it even coming up, but it pisses me off how some people who don't live in either Ireland or the UK are so ignorant of the actual situation and come out with shit like this.

Actually I was responding to a comment. I don't try to bring it up, and I don't like it even coming up, but it pisses me off how some people who don't live in either Ireland or the UK are so ignorant of the actual situation and come out with shit like this.

I know but don't feed them! I agree with you- this thread was going so well... :fluffle: :fluffle:

I know but don't feed them! I agree with you- this thread was going so well... :fluffle: :fluffle:

Sorry, I really need to work on my resist the bait >.> For some issues I just can't help it.

Sorry, I really need to work on my resist the bait >.> For some issues I just can't help it.

That should be "work on my ability to resist the bait". I hate not being able to edit my posts...

Pardon

"Mummy says 'Pardon' is worse than fuck."

Warning, if American producers ever try to do to Little Britan what they did to the Office, i will personally fly over to the states and disembowel anybody remotely responsible.

1. The Office (US) really wasn't as bad as some people have made out.
2. Little Britain really isn't that great.
3. I would gladly pay for you to fly to the US if you provide the diemboweling kit.

Cool, *picks up Disembowling kit and suitcase*

1. The Office (US) really wasn't as bad as some people have made out.
2. Little Britain really isn't that great.
3. I would gladly pay for you to fly to the US if you provide the diemboweling kit.

(1) The Office (UK) isn't really as good as some people have made out
(2) Little Britain is...rubbish. Sub-Standard Fast Show meets Sub-standard League of Gentlemen, via the theatre of cruelty.
(3) I'll help pay to disembowel US TV Producers on a general point of principle however.

(3) I'll help pay to disembowel US TV Producers on a general point of principle however.
maybe they could disembowel the fuckers from Little Britain while they're at it.

*cough* (http://www.hlj.me.uk/Now%20Show%20Xmas%20Special%202005%20snippet.wma)

maybe they could disembowel the fuckers from Little Britain while they're at it.

*cough* (http://www.hlj.me.uk/Now%20Show%20Xmas%20Special%202005%20snippet.wma)

Or send Matt Lucas back to being George Dawes ("He's just a big baby!") where he did something useful.

Like any country it has it's good and bad points but I like living here.

Of course, those evil doers who dared to commit the crime of being English deserved to be killed by the IRA and therefore were not innocent, right? :rolleyes:

Evidently, since, as I assume he is American, they funded the IRa for a considerable period.

*hums hooligan chant*

By ourselves we are quite weak.
But we hold MASSIVE influence.
I think what the country needs is a good decade of tyranny... (vote communists) So that people will shape up. Also we need to get our head out of america's ass and into europe's Boosom....mmm....boosom..
It's a very nice country, but as you said, they really need to get their head out of America's head and open up to Europe more!

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/uk.html

Thats the United Kingdom? I though it was this (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/The_United_Kingdom_of_America).

maybe they could disembowel the fuckers from Little Britain while they're at it.

*cough* (http://www.hlj.me.uk/Now%20Show%20Xmas%20Special%202005%20snippet.wma) The computer says no

The computer says no
mine says yes (and moans softly...;))


shame cos its funny :P (imho)

mine says yes (and moans softly...;))


shame cos its funny :P (imho) Yeah but no but yeah ;)

Great country, superb

I am British/English from England UK

We never say 'smashing, tip top, tally ho! Good show old boy! ' I am offended apologise :mad:

Apologise ? Bollocks ! You must be all sixes and sevens. Go eat some spotted dick and calm down :)

Apologise ? Bollocks ! You must be all sixes and sevens. Go eat some spotted dick and calm down :) I hate spotted dick and never say I am all at 6s and 7s

Yeah but no but yeah ;)
hahaha :P

hahaha :P 'I want that one'

Could be better, I suppose, but could be worse. So here comes a cynical brit's primer on improving one's nation:

Get rid of the Benefit Cheats!
Yes, it's time to get the royals throne out. As well as the lord mayors, lord lieutennants, dukes, viscounts, marquesses, chancellors, royal regiments and whatnot. All their property can go to English Heritage (or equivilant in Scotland, Wales and N.I.). Make the Prime Minister a President, so when they flounce off as head of State (which they do do abroad anyways) they can at least have a real mandate to do it.

Burn the chavs!
Any true Brit knows what i'm on about. Frankly the little eleven year old shits who hang around my railway station at night (And not paying the £6.60 ticket either) smoking, drinking (at eleven years old, yes) and trying to feel their epiglotti with their tounges ought to be killed. Slowly. In an interseting fashion. They simply ought to die. The closest i've got to killing one is getting the Bill to send 6 units after some who tried to run me over while I was out cycling. I hoped they'd give chase and the plebs would crash into a ditch, but apparently they didn't. Better luck next time.

Get rid of FPTP!
The reason we have flip-flopping centrist government (and thus crap services) on a permanant basis is because of FPTP. Get STV like in Ireland, and let the Tories be right, labour be left (when pigs fly....) and Lib Dems can...well, they can sort themselves out. But no FPTP=No Blair=happier Britain.

Replace Northern Ireland
Give N.I. back to Ireland (if they want to) and then attach outboard motors to South Africa. Attach south Africa to where n.i. is. This will improve English Cricket considerably.

Free School Lunches!
Frankly, i'm pissed off that people in other countries don't have to pay for their lunches at school. We have to pay for a canteen that's not open, and when we do it's £1.70 for a flatbread and £0.40 for a small, shite cup of hot milk and water, masquerading as tea. It's a farce.

Get an English Parliament
We don't want any of this 'Euro-regions' crap. We want a proper federation. Then England gets buggered by the conservative government it apparently wants without it effecting the rest of the country, who want to be buggered by Phoney Tony.

See? sensible policies for a happier Britain!


Oooh! Ideas aplenty, my friend! Although slightly disturbed by the bit about chavs - hey, they may piss us off, but they're people too.

Hey, run for Parliament as an independent, specifically on this programme man!