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http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/01/012706military.htm

OK, so beyond being appalled at the evil of the US military in not just banning gay people from joining, but also from making innocent, but oh, so, totally hot and immoral, in the best sense of the word, gay porn, I am incensed that they choose to withhold the link! Monsters. :mad:

I wouldn't have a problem if the US Military banned its service members from making porn period. I would have a problem if they singled out gay porn.

From the sounds of it, however, the US Military won't really do anything unless they catch someone making out with an officer. This from someone who went to boot camp for the US Army.

So, can they make straight porn? I mean, if they couldn't make any orientation of porn, it would be a reasonable action to punish them as part of the military conduct code.

However, this seems like a discriminatory action against gays, not against unbecoming conduct.

I can tell you right now that the consequences would be the same if they made heterosexual porn. Making porn is a big no no.

However, this seems like a discriminatory action against gays

Which the US military would never otherwise be guilty of. :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, making any sort of porn doesn't seem like it would be allowed.

Yeah, making any sort of porn doesn't seem like it would be allowed.

Which is just bogus, really. How are we supposed to be without steamy, grindy, filthy military porn, no matter which kind it is? Thank $deity for Eastern Europe and their capitalist willingness to cater to our shameful fetishes, is all I'll say.

Which the US military would never otherwise be guilty of. :rolleyes: ;)

No, of course not! This is 'merica!

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/01/012706military.htm

OK, so beyond being appalled at the evil of the US military in not just banning gay people from joining, but also from making innocent, but oh, so, totally hot and immoral, in the best sense of the word, gay porn, I am incensed that they choose to withhold the link! Monsters. :mad:

Stop flaming against the U.S. military. It seems like every post you make has something to do with gay this gay that. Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim, its not going to get you sympathy votes. As everyone else above me said, if the U.S. army was making porn, period, it would not be allowed and would be looked into.

Yeah, making any sort of porn doesn't seem like it would be allowed.

well thats a silly rule!

Stop flaming . . .
HOMOPHOBE!

This is terrible. If a person wants to make porn, whatever kind so long at it doesn't involve kids or non-consentual activity, he or she should feel free to go ahead. The founding fathers were big supporters of pornography* and it's unAmerican to prohibit our brave troops from participating in this American tradition.

*I'm assuming that the founding fathers were into porn because I can't imagine anyone not liking porn.

See, again I just don't get it.

It's okay to teach, learn and practice how to more effectively kill people, apparently.

But orgasms of any sort are illegal.

America, you're funny when you're evil.

Stop flaming against the U.S. military.

No, I don't think I will. Run along now.

HOMOPHOBE!

Lol, of course....I'm just waiting for those to pour in.

well thats a silly rule!

That's what I'm saying!

No, I don't think I will. Run along now.

Sure, as long as I got you to admit that your flaming against the U.S. military and ingnoring the rest of my post, I have no problem leaving.

See, again I just don't get it.

It's okay to teach, learn and practice how to more effectively kill people, apparently.

But orgasms of any sort are illegal.

America, you're funny when you're evil.

Exactly! "How dare they have sex on camera? They're supposed to be out there killing people on the 9 o'clock news!"

Which is just bogus, really. How are we supposed to be without steamy, grindy, filthy military porn, no matter which kind it is? Thank $deity for Eastern Europe and their capitalist willingness to cater to our shameful fetishes, is all I'll say.
Isn't someone wearing a close replica of a uniform enough? Does it really ruin the experience for you if First Lieutenant Dick Hunter from Anal Invaders 12 isn't actually one of Her Majesty's officers?

Sure, as long as I got you to admit that your flaming against the U.S. military and ingnoring the rest of my post, I have no problem leaving.

My attack on the US military was apparent, I thought. Or would you really think someone could have missed it, and you thought your habitually superfluous stating of the obvious would somehow serve a purpose? That's just silly. And it's no news I ignore what you write, anyway. So, do run along now, like you said.

So they arent opposed to them being in straight porn? Hypocrites. So what if the troops want to engage in porn? Thats their business. And mine if I can get that link.

Isn't someone wearing a close replica of a uniform enough? Does it really ruin the experience for you if First Lieutenant Dick Hunter from Anal Invaders 12 isn't actually one of Her Majesty's officers?

It does. I crave authenticity, and, by Jove, I'll use the poverty and/or debauchery of those in the military to sate my desires. Duh.

Thats their business. And mine if I can get that link.

Send me a TG if you do. I'm googling my fingers to the bone, here.

Send me a TG if you do. I'm googling my fingers to the bone, here.


deal...and vice versa.

HOMOPHOBE!

Homophobes are gay .... :p

Homophobes are gay .... :p

so are heterophobes like Fass!

so are heterophobes like Fass!

Yes, curse my heterosexual mother! Damn her to the worst pits of Florida. And me being gay, well, is just swell. :fluffle:

so are heterophobes like Fass!
So going by your logic, all non-phobic people are then straight?

Hmm.

Yes, curse my heterosexual mother! Damn her to the worst pits of Florida. And me being gay, well, is just swell. :fluffle:

I LOVE the worst pits of Florida.

I LOVE the worst pits of Florida.

I bet you do. And I bet I know just what sort of pits closeted guys like, having been one myself a long time ago (see, we do have some things in common). Miami can be a hoot!

I bet you do. And I bet I know just what sort of pits closeted guys like, having been one myself a long time ago (see, we do have some things in common). Miami can be a hoot!

lol, as much as I totally dislike you, you just made me laugh.

lol, as much as I totally dislike you, you just made me laugh.

That's how we give you the gay, you know. First it's all fun and laughter, and next, you're begging for it up the poop-shute. Ah, good times...

That's how we give you the gay, you know. First it's all fun and laughter, and next, you're begging for it up the poop-shute. Ah, good times...

*gags*

*has dry heaves*

*vomits*

*looks into vomit and sees boot*

So going by your logic, all non-phobic people are then straight?

Hmm.

no no no. all non-phobic people are BI, clearly.

*gags*
*has dry heaves*
*vomits*
*looks into vomit and sees boot*

The lady doth protest too much... but don't worry honey, I'm not here to out you.

I like where this thread is headed: Right into the moral sewer. :)

I fully endorse and support military porn and all derivatives thereof. :)

Awww. But I like US Army gay porn :(

Awww. But I like US Army gay porn :(

What's not to like? They're the most well-equipped army in the World! :D

Awww. But I like US Army gay porn :(

I don't know, the Czech army is more attractive, the French army is better at having sex, the Russians are a lot more inventive with their gear, and those South Africans are just freaks... so, I won't particularly miss gay US army porn, but it's more the principle.

What's not to like? They're the most well-equipped army in the World! :D

It's not so much the equipment, as it's not being that good at making full use of it. Wasted potential is such libido poison.

I don't know, the Czech army is more attractive, the French army is better at having sex, the Russians are a lot more inventive with their gear, and those South Africans are just freaks... so, I won't particularly miss gay US army porn, but it's more the principle.

Jeez, you're really done your...um...homework! :p

Uniform Code of Military Justice
934. ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE

Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm

It doesn’t have to be homosexual behavior, but conduct that brings discredit could simply be ‘embarrassment’ so even heterosexual porn can be brought up on charges. The military still charges people with carnal knowledge and adultery and they recently have banned procuring prostitution. As to the homosexual conduct…

From the original post, link:
the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy states that "homosexual orientation alone is not a bar to service, but homosexual conduct is incompatible with military service."

"We define homosexual conduct as homosexual acts or verbal or nonverbal communication that a member is homosexual," Vician said.

Jeez, you're really done your...um...homework! :p

Have I ever!

Jeez, you're really done your...um...homework! :p
He was very interested in his studies. Then very, very interested... extremely interested... then he wasn't so interested anymore.

But undaunted, he kept up his revision 'til he mastered the subject.

The military still charges people with carnal knowledge and adultery and they recently have banned procuring prostitution. As to the homosexual conduct…

From the original post, link:
the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy states that "homosexual orientation alone is not a bar to service, but homosexual conduct is incompatible with military service."

"We define homosexual conduct as homosexual acts or verbal or nonverbal communication that a member is homosexual," Vician said.

Yeah, as someone already said, they're so silly when they're being evil.

What's not to like? They're the most well-equipped army in the World! :D

Yeah, they can bust my bunker any day!

They can hunt Osama in my cave!

They can flush out my insurgents!

They can get put their dictator in my spider hole!

They can clean my rifle!

They can carpet bomb my valley!

Okay, I'll stop now.

Yeah, they can bust my bunker any day!
They can hunt Osama in my cave!
They can flush out my insurgents!
They can get put their dictator in my spider hole!
They can clean my rifle!
They can carpet bomb my valley!
Okay, I'll stop now.

What's funny is these films are usually chalk full of such innuendo. Kudos!

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/01/012706military.htm

OK, so beyond being appalled at the evil of the US military in not just banning gay people from joining, but also from making innocent, but oh, so, totally hot and immoral, in the best sense of the word, gay porn, I am incensed that they choose to withhold the link! Monsters. :mad:
In the US, the military is controlled by the elected representatives of the voters. The voters are as diverse and polyglot a group as you would ever want to see. Ergo, many things the military does, especially as they relate to "social issues," seem to have a degree of cognitive dissonance.

They can flush out my insurgents!

I hope you are not implying that there is Gay Enema Army Porn, because is where I draw the line!

I hope you are not implying that there is Gay Enema Army Porn, because is where I draw the line!

Variety is the Spice of Life. :)

In the US, the military is controlled by the elected representatives of the voters. The voters are as diverse and polyglot a group as you would ever want to see. Ergo, many things the military does, especially as they relate to "social issues," seem to have a degree of cognitive dissonance.

Funny, here the military is governed by the same laws as the rest of us. Kooky.

I hope you are not implying that there is Gay Enema Army Porn, because is where I draw the line!

Sounds hot to me.

Gay Enema Army Porn

*paris hilton* That's hot. */paris hilton*

*paris hilton* That's hot. */paris hilton*

For a second I thought you were saying paris hilton was hot, which confused me.

*paris hilton* That's hot. */paris hilton*
I can say this much. As much as I don't like gay porn (I'm not gay, therefore it doesn't interest me), I would rather watch the 182nd RumpRangers gay porn all day than have someone remind me of that nasty whore (Hilton).

In fact, if I could destroy her forever, I might just take one for the team! (shudders)

I can say this much. As much as I don't like gay porn (I'm not gay, therefore it doesn't interest me), I would rather watch the 182nd RumpRangers gay porn all day than have someone remind me of that nasty whore (Hilton).

Oh, you're just jealous she gets to be all fabulous and stupid and a slut and still have such an obscene amount of money. As such, she is the ultimate condensation of US culture as it stands today.

In fact, if I could destroy her forever, I might just take one for the team! (shudders)

For some reason, I think Paris has nothing to worry about.

For some reason, I think Paris has nothing to worry about.
You know you want me big boy! *bats eyelashes* (everyone likes to slum it now and then ;) )

You know you want me big boy! *bats eyelashes* (everyone likes to slum it now and then ;) )

Don't be like that. You're not a slum. A shantytown, perhaps, but not a slum.

Don't be like that. You're not a slum. A shantytown, perhaps, but not a slum.
Actually, I'm a big city, if ya know what I mean! hehehehe

Besides, I meant you having sex with a right winger. Now THAT is the very definition of slumming! :D

Oh, you're just jealous she gets to be all fabulous and stupid and a slut and still have such an obscene amount of money. As such, she is the ultimate condensation of US culture as it stands today.

Oh whatever! Everyone knows that Nicole is actually the ultimate condensation of US culture. Paris is too boring, at least Nicole has an eating disorder to shake things up with.

Actually, I'm a big city, if ya know what I mean! hehehehe

With a lovely canal conduite, no doubt.

Besides, I meant you having sex with a right winger. Now THAT is the very definition of slumming! :D

Oh, extreme right wingers tend to have this whole self-loathing, shameful thing going on that can make for excellent guilt-ridden sex.

Oh whatever! Everyone knows that Nicole is actually the ultimate condensation of US culture. Paris is too boring, at least Nicole has an eating disorder to shake things up with.

Exactly. Nicole is doing something about her weight problem, while Paris is a fat slag, and content in being it, by comparison. Hence, Paris is the better fit.

Funny, here the military is governed by the same laws as the rest of us. Kooky.
The laws used to govern the members of the US military are most always stricter than civilian laws. (Being that the stakes are often much higher, and discipline being more important, it makes sense.)
Some of them really could use a fix though.

As for making porn, well I can see a few article of the Uniform Codes of Military Justice (which are applicable to ALL services) that are violated.

ART. 125. SODOMY
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN
Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(Note: This applies to the ladies as well)

ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Life's stricter (something anyone should realize). Hell, you'll land time in jail for adultery, something you won't see in civilian life. Though, you'll still find people who game the system.

In general private matters (what/who you do on your own time) aren't actually a big deal. It is only if/when these matter become public and have the possibility of damaging discipline or the general order, that the military will care.
I think it was Eutrusca (forgive me if I'm wrong) that pointed out that in the past commanding officers had more leeway in how to deal with matters (such as homosexuality) becoming public.
Then someone came about and instituted a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy and tied commanders' hands on the issue.

That said, I think that we shouldn't be kicking people out of service based on sexual preference. It's discriminatory, pure and simple, and doesn't support the ideals of freedom.

--snip--

That really is a bunch of silliness, that whole UCMJ thing. To deprive those who are to protect your rights from rights, and treating them as second class citizens, it's just so foreign. We lack special laws for the military - apart from certain cases of insubordination and the like (which will be dealt with in regular courts, mind you, as we lack courts marshal), if it ain't a crime outside the military, it ain't a crime in it. So, we get the best of both worlds: sodomy and cute uniforms.

That said, I think that we shouldn't be kicking people out of service based on sexual preference. It's discriminatory, pure and simple, and doesn't support the ideals of freedom.
There is also the fact that, when looking for meat to feed into the grinder, a sausage maker can't afford to be to picky.
No, don't think about that analogy, just accept it.

That really is a bunch of silliness, that whole UCMJ thing. To deprive those who are to protect your rights from rights, and treating them as second class citizens, it's just so foreign. We lack special laws for the military - apart from certain cases of insubordination and the like (which will be dealt with in regular courts, mind you, as we lack courts marshal), if it ain't a crime outside the military, it ain't a crime in it. So, we get the best of both worlds: sodomy and cute uniforms.

On a completely unrelated note; All the best sex toys are made in Sweden. :)

There is also the fact that, when looking for meat to feed into the grinder, a sausage maker can't afford to be to picky.
No, don't think about that analogy, just accept it.

hehehe. meat.

sausage.

:)

Exactly. Nicole is doing something about her weight problem, while Paris is a fat slag, and content in being it, by comparison. Hence, Paris is the better fit.

but think of the billions of dollars americans spend on diet schemes and the such each year? we're not content, we're just lazy. and nicole got addicted to drugs and stopped eating -- if thats not the lazy way to loose weight i dont know what is!

On a completely unrelated note; All the best sex toys are made in Sweden. :)

I thank my lucky stars.

That really is a bunch of silliness, that whole UCMJ thing. To deprive those who are to protect your rights from rights, and treating them as second class citizens, it's just so foreign. We lack special laws for the military - apart from certain cases of insubordination and the like (which will be dealt with in regular courts, mind you, as we lack courts marshal), if it ain't a crime outside the military, it ain't a crime in it. So, we get the best of both worlds: sodomy and cute uniforms.
Yeah, but let's take a look at which military is a more effective fighting force.

but think of the billions of dollars americans spend on diet schemes and the such each year? we're not content, we're just lazy. and nicole got addicted to drugs and stopped eating -- if thats not the lazy way to loose weight i dont know what is!

Yeah, but she lost weight, while the US public fails at even that. And who is a better representative of failure than Paris?

Yeah, but let's take a look at which military is a more effective fighting force.

Depends what you're fighting.

If we're ever invaded by sex-starved aliens who can only be conquered by freaking them to death, I'm backing the Swedish Army. :)

Yeah, but let's take a look at which military is a more effective fighting force.

Oh, please, wars are so two centuries ago here. I bet ya if your military got more sweet, sweet anal action, you'd have peace, too.

That really is a bunch of silliness, that whole UCMJ thing. To deprive those who are to protect your rights from rights, and treating them as second class citizens, it's just so foreign. We lack special laws for the military - apart from certain cases of insubordination and the like (which will be dealt with in regular courts, mind you, as we lack courts marshal), if it ain't a crime outside the military, it ain't a crime in it. So, we get the best of both worlds: sodomy and cute uniforms.
Most aren't seemingly so odd
The list starts here: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj2.htm#877.%20ART.%2077.%20PRINCIPALS

That said, otherwise mundane (??) incidents, such as adultery, fraternization, etc. can and have had detrimental effects on military operations. And given that unlike your typical civilian career, people can and do die because of seemingly minor fuck ups, the military tends to take things seriously.

Thread does not deliver. I expected gay porn, for shame! :mad:

Most aren't seemingly so odd
The list starts here: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj2.htm#877.%20ART.%2077.%20PRINCIPALS

That said, otherwise mundane (??) incidents, such as adultery, fraternization, etc. can and have had detrimental effects on military operations. And given that unlike your typical civilian career, people can and do die because of seemingly minor fuck ups, the military tends to take things seriously.

Oh, it all sounds like puritanism to me. As if sodomy and adultery are that big of a threat to the "mighty US army who are so great and mighty and something else propaganda-ish US movies like to propagate." Seems quite the pointless thing to be afraid of.

Thread does not deliver. I expected gay porn, for shame! :mad:

And I would deliver, but the mods are all uptight and like to pretend they don't like porn for some reason. This might appease you:

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/450/20050927137719589943397a58b7a9.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20050927137719589943397a58b7a9.jpg)

And who is a better representative of failure than Paris?
oh! i know this one!


ashlee simpson!

Don't ask don't tell is doing a rather poor job at keeping gays out of the US military. My bottom still hurts from my escapades with US soldiers in Okinawa during the winter break.

And I would deliver, but the mods are all uptight and like to pretend they don't like porn for some reason. This might appease you:

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/450/20050927137719589943397a58b7a9.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20050927137719589943397a58b7a9.jpg)

what a poor excuse for pornography! i expected more.

Don't ask don't tell is doing a rather poor job at keeping gays out of the US military. My bottom still hurts from my escapades with US soldiers in Okinawa during the winter break.

Allow me, on behalf of the American Public, to thank you for helping to keep up the morale of the American Fighting Men. :)

Edit: Your butt's sacrifice was not in vain.

oh! i know this one!
ashlee simpson!

Nope, Paris' musical "career" was even worse than hers, sorry.

what a poor excuse for pornography! i expected more.

Don't bitch to me, bitch to Max.

Edit: Your butt's sacrifice was not in vain.

Sacrifice, pfft! It's an exquisite kind of pain.

Nope, Paris' musical "career" was even worse than hers, sorry.

oh yeah, i completely forgot about Paris' musical career....but I bet I can think of one musical career thats even more laughable than Paris'...

K-Fed's.

hahaha. i laugh just thinking about him.

Oh, it all sounds like puritanism to me. As if sodomy and adultery are that big of a threat to the "mighty US army who are so great and mighty and something else propaganda-ish US movies like to propagate." Seems quite the pointless thing to be afraid of.
Having an affair with someone in the office in civilian life can cause friction in the workplace.
The same friction in the workplace can get people killed in the military.
Higher stakes requires higher discipline.
It has caused problems in the past.

"While the primary purpose of the United States justice system is to dispense "justice," that is not the primary reason for the creation of a separation justice system for America's Armed Forces. The primary purpose of the Military's system is to provide the military commander with necessary tools to enforce good order and discipline. That's why, for example, it's not considered a "crime" to be late for work at your civilian job, but it is a "crime" to be late for work in the Military (violation of Article 86 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or UCMJ)."
-Rod Powers
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/miljustice.htm <-- A good overview of what it's about.

One should note, that it's uncommon for a commander to go straight to max. punishment, and that punishments may have different effects on enlisted or officers.
For instance, an Article 15 may kill an officer's career (if signed and made official, it'll go into an Unfavorable Information File for 3 yrs, and axes any chance of promotion), whereas an enlisted personnel with an article 15 won't necessarily
ruin their career.
My commander for instance, received an Article 15 when she was an Lt, but the commanding officer choose to leave it unsigned and in his desk, as opposed to making it official. This allowed him to use it as an effective warning, without going overboard.

It is stricter than you'll find in civilian life, but at the same time, there is alot of flexibility built into the system.

oh yeah, i completely forgot about Paris' musical career....but I bet I can think of one musical career thats even more laughable than Paris'...

K-Fed's.

hahaha. i laugh just thinking about him.

Omgwtf, you actually called him "K-Fed." It's "Cletus," n00b!

Having an affair with someone in the office in civilian life can cause friction in the workplace.
The same friction in the workplace can get people killed in the military.
Higher stakes requires higher discipline.
It has caused problems in the past.

The relation between tardiness and adultery eludes. Tonnes of people are adulterous every day without it affecting their ability to get to work on time and kill people.

Omgwtf, you actually called him "K-Fed." It's "Cletus," n00b!

It varies from site-to-site.

It varies from site-to-site.

Yeah, from his fan club's, to every other site.

Stop flaming against the U.S. military. It seems like every post you make has something to do with gay this gay that. Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim, its not going to get you sympathy votes. As everyone else above me said, if the U.S. army was making porn, period, it would not be allowed and would be looked into.


Yes, I second this motion.

And I'm bisexual, so don't you call me a homophobe.

Yes, I second this motion.

It has already been denied.

And I'm bisexual, so don't you call me a homophobe.

Would calling you "in denial" like all "bisexuals" suffice? :p

Yeah, from his fan club's, to every other site.

Well, I've heard him called K-Fed on non-fansites (and haven't read any fan sites) Example (http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2005/12/21/britney_cant_take_kfed_anywher.html)

Speaking of fan sites, why does such a thing exist?

The relation between tardiness and adultery eludes. Tonnes of people are adulterous every day without it affecting their ability to get to work on time and kill people.
I never tried to connect tardiness and adultery.
And, as it is punished under Article 134, it's usually only an issue if it effects the military (as i've said).
Take the Lt. Flynn case. Lt. Kelly Flynn had an affair with the husband of an active duty enlisted personnel stationed at the same base, having a direct and negative impact on that service member, and thus damaging good order, discipline, and morale.
Hell, there was an AF Captain (afaik) a few years back who tried to pull a David and Bathsheba with one of his subordinates.

Yeah, from his fan club's, to every other site.

maybe im in his fan club....

maybe im in his fan club....

Maybe you are him, seeing as he is his only fan. Ever thought of that?

I never tried to connect tardiness and adultery.
And, as it is punished under Article 134, it's usually only an issue if it effects the military (as i've said).
Take the Lt. Flynn case. Lt. Kelly Flynn had an affair with the husband of an active duty enlisted personnel stationed at the same base, having a direct and negative impact on that service member, and thus damaging good order, discipline, and morale.
Hell, there was an AF Captain (afaik) a few years back who tried to pull a David and Bathsheba with one of his subordinates.

You'd think you'd reprimand the poor performance of that service member, and not, as puritans do, the adultery. Really, it's just so silly.

Would calling you "in denial" like all "bisexuals" suffice? :p

Hehehe.

So I'm not REALLY attracted to those hot chicks, I guess. :D

So I'm not REALLY attracted to those hot chicks, I guess. :D

I think it goes like this: If you're a girl, you're just an attention whore, if you're a guy, you're just afraid to fully leave the closet and/or in denial of your true gay self.

I think it goes like this: If you're a girl, you're just an attention whore, if you're a guy, you're just afraid to fully leave the closet and/or in denial of your true gay self.

Oh come on. There are plenty of bisexual women who don't only do it when there are guys around watching. Trust me on this one.

But yeah, you're dead on about the guy part.

I think it goes like this: If you're a girl, you're just an attention whore, if you're a guy, you're just afraid to fully leave the closet and/or in denial of your true gay self.

So you're saying its all or nothing? I can't have my fantasies of Enya (or any other woman)?

So you're saying its all or nothing? I can't have my fantasies of Enya (or any other woman)?

Precisely, because how dare you not conform to someone else's rigid ideas about sexuality?

Oh come on. There are plenty of bisexual women who don't only do it when there are guys around watching. Trust me on this one.

I will have to, since I'm not that keen on ogling lesbian wannabes.

So you're saying its all or nothing? I can't have my fantasies of Enya (or any other woman)?

no, you cannot have fantasies about enya. thats just wrong and weird.

no, you cannot have fantasies about enya. thats just wrong and weird.

I was trying to be open minded and non-judgemental, but it had to be said in the end! Thank you.

no, you cannot have fantasies about enya. thats just wrong and weird.

I understand the weird part, but what's wrong with it?

I understand the weird part, but what's wrong with it?

Are you deaf? No offence if you are.

Are you deaf? No offence if you are.

I do have moderate hearing loss. I'd wear hearing aids if I wasn't so cheap.

What's your point? :P

I do have moderate hearing loss. I'd wear hearing aids if I wasn't so cheap.

That would explain how you'd be able to stand her. Just, remain cheap, for your sake?

That would explain how you'd be able to stand her. Just, remain cheap, for your sake?

Just, just...just go listen to Abba, you big meanie!

Just, just...just go listen to Abba, you big meanie!

ABBA rules, and don't you forget it.