NationStates Jolt Archive


I'm sure these illegal aliens just want to pick some fruit.

Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 17:44
A Colombian group has been forging passports for Al Qaeda and Hamas members to allow them entry into the US and Europe. Thankfully a number of people on this forum have reassured me that terrorists don't really pose any risk. These guys are probably coming over to the USA to get in on our lucrative fruit-picking industry.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/01/26/colombia.passport.ring.ap/index.html
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 17:47
A Colombian group has been forging passports for Al Qaeda and Hamas members to allow them entry into the US and Europe. Thankfully a number of people on this forum have reassured me that terrorists don't really pose any risk. These guys are probably coming over to the USA to get in on our lucrative fruit-picking industry.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/01/26/colombia.passport.ring.ap/index.html

Did you know, some terrorist actions have actually been committed by US citizens?

Thus... allowing people to be American citizens is just asking for terrorism isn't it?
Randomlittleisland
28-01-2006, 17:47
I don't think I can remember anyone on the forum claiming that terrorists are harmless.
[NS:::]Vegetarianistica
28-01-2006, 17:48
heyyy.. wait.. we've got Enough fruit-pickers coming over the border already.
Skinny87
28-01-2006, 17:52
So, does this mean you guys are gonna build a wall around your fruit orchards now?

Because where am I going to get my fruit then, huh?
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 17:55
So, does this mean you guys are gonna build a wall around your fruit orchards now?

Because where am I going to get my fruit then, huh?

Guernsey.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
28-01-2006, 17:55
So, does this mean you guys are gonna build a wall around your fruit orchards now?
We should just build walls around everything. First, the US walls of the borders, then the coast line, and then the state borders. Next, the county lines will get walls, then the individual cities will all be walled in. Once the cities are secure, it is time to build walls around all the buildings inside the city.
Finally, the only thing unprotected by walls will be the walls themselves, and so the the country has plans to finish off Operation Build a Fucking Lot of Walls in the year 2267 by building walls around all the walls.
Skinny87
28-01-2006, 17:57
Opening: 2267

The Worlds largest concrete and steel maze!
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 17:57
I don't think I can remember anyone on the forum claiming that terrorists are harmless.
I've read some posts claiming that Al Qaeda and other terrorists don't pose a significant enough threat to justify the ammount of attention they get from the government. I've read posts that claimed that reports of terrorism are just used as a scare tactic by the government.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 17:57
We should just build walls around everything. First, the US walls of the borders, then the coast line, and then the state borders. Next, the county lines will get walls, then the individual cities will all be walled in. Once the cities are secure, it is time to build walls around all the buildings inside the city.
Finally, the only thing unprotected by walls will be the walls themselves, and so the the country has plans to finish off Operation Build a Fucking Lot of Walls in the year 2267 by building walls around all the walls.


An utterly selfdefeating plan.

You might - as an alternative - have all... tourists.. drink a bottle of porkblood to the health of the United States.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 17:58
So, does this mean you guys are gonna build a wall around your fruit orchards now?

Because where am I going to get my fruit then, huh?
No, we're going to implant RFID tags into every real American so we know who's ok and who needs to be shot at the border.
[NS:::]Vegetarianistica
28-01-2006, 17:58
So, does this mean you guys are gonna build a wall around your fruit orchards now? Because where am I going to get my fruit then, huh?

suid afrika
Free Soviets
28-01-2006, 18:01
A Colombian group has been forging passports for Al Qaeda and Hamas members to allow them entry into the US and Europe.

omg noes! we better build a wall so that when these guys come in through official entry points with their fake passports we can point out the wall that their airplane flew over and mention how it keeps illegals out.

Thankfully a number of people on this forum have reassured me that terrorists don't really pose any risk.

i believe that you have mistakenly left out the word 'significant' from your characterization of our opinion on the threat posed by terrorists. i'd be more worried about neo-nazis holding u.s. citizenship. they seem to be the ones consistently killing people here, and trying to get their hands on chemical weapons. and even they aren't really much of a threat- though they are slightly more of one than they are typically given credit for.
The Infinite Dunes
28-01-2006, 18:03
Did you know, some terrorist actions have actually been committed by US citizens?

Thus... allowing people to be American citizens is just asking for terrorism isn't it?Hmm... yes, I think I may have heard something on the news last year about a couple of Britons doing something horrid in London.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:03
omg noes! we better build a wall so that when these guys come in through official entry points with their fake passports we can point out the wall that their airplane flew over and mention how it keeps illegals out.



i believe that you have mistakenly left out the word 'significant' from your characterization of our opinion on the threat posed by terrorists. i'd be more worried about neo-nazis holding u.s. citizenship. they seem to be the ones consistently killing people here, and trying to get their hands on chemical weapons. and even they aren't really much of a threat- though they are slightly more of one than they are typically given credit for.

How many neonazi's have you seen flying planes into buildings lately?

But anything not to wipe out militant Islamists, right?

And the same goes for the London Bombings, actually...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
28-01-2006, 18:05
An utterly selfdefeating plan.
No, the walls will make us all safe! Safe and cozy, protected from people coming and going by fields of flowing concrete and steel. Without having to worry about getting blown up, they can all jsut get on with the business of starving to death because they have no access to food or supplies.
You might - as an alternative - have all... tourists.. drink a bottle of porkblood to the health of the United States.
1. That would make the US seem to much like an episode of Fear Factor. We're already the crazy ones, we don't need world opinion to be further tainted.
1a. I wouldn't do it, and the closest I've ever come to Islam is going to a mosque to ask for directions.
2. Wouldn't a ham sandwich be easier?
3. Never criticize Operation Build a Fucking Lot of Walls.
Nyuujaku
28-01-2006, 18:05
You might - as an alternative - have all... tourists.. drink a bottle of porkblood to the health of the United States.
It'd never work. First, al-Qaeda is Muslim the way Falwell and Robertson are Christian -- it's about power, not the religion, they'd find some way to explain it away. Second, you'd be discriminating unfairly against legitimate Muslim and Jewish visitors to the US. And finally...eww. Just...eww.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:08
It'd never work. First, al-Qaeda is Muslim the way Falwell and Robertson are Christian -- it's about power, not the religion, they'd find some way to explain it away. Second, you'd be discriminating unfairly against legitimate Muslim and Jewish visitors to the US. And finally...eww. Just...eww.
Exactly. We should just make 'em get drunk and get a lapdance from a hot naked broad that they're not married to. If you're too religious to enjoy that, off with your head.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:08
No, the walls will make us all safe! Safe and cozy, protected from people coming and going by fields of flowing concrete and steel. Without having to worry about getting blown up, they can all jsut get on with the business of starving to death because they have no access to food or supplies.

1. That would make the US seem to much like an episode of Fear Factor. We're already the crazy ones, we don't need world opinion to be further tainted.
1a. I wouldn't do it, and the closest I've ever come to Islam is going to a mosque to ask for directions.
2. Wouldn't a ham sandwich be easier?
3. Never criticize Operation Build a Fucking Lot of Walls.

1. That depends on your definition of crazy.
Personally, I consider anyone who thinks he can defeat Shaitan by throwing stones at a stone pillar loopy as a dingbat.
2. As Curtis Lemay said: I want to see the cinders DANCE.
3. Why not? It is a defensive measure. You don't win wars by defense.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
28-01-2006, 18:09
omg noes! we better build a wall so that when these guys come in through official entry points with their fake passports
The greatest weakness in any wall is the door. That is why our walls won't have any.
we can point out the wall that their airplane flew over and mention how it keeps illegals out.
You're right! We must build AA batteries to destroy all aircraft that attempt to fly within 100 miles of the US walls, that will seal us all off.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:11
1. That depends on your definition of crazy.
Personally, I consider anyone who thinks he can defeat Shaitan by throwing stones at a stone pillar loopy as a dingbat.


As opposed to the obviously much more sensible notion that my destiny now, is affected by the Roman's nailing a Jew heretic to a tree, two thousand years ago...
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:13
As opposed to the obviously much more sensible notion that my destiny now, is affected by the Roman's nailing a Jew heretic to a tree, two thousand years ago...

Once again...ANYTHING but exterminating militant Islamists, right?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
28-01-2006, 18:14
3. Why not? It is a defensive measure. You don't win wars by defense.
These won't be just any walls, they'll be DYNAMIC. I'm not sure how, though, maybe they'll have hinges so they can fall on passersby and then right themselves again, or something.
Cahnt
28-01-2006, 18:14
Hmm... yes, I think I may have heard something on the news last year about a couple of Britons doing something horrid in London.
Three or four of them, actually.

How many neonazi's have you seen flying planes into buildings lately?
The same number as there are of Jihadists who've done that in the last four years.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:14
These won't be just any walls, they'll be DYNAMIC. I'm not sure how, though, maybe they'll have hinges so they can fall on passersby and then right themselves again, or something.

That should do the trick then...
Free Soviets
28-01-2006, 18:16
How many neonazi's have you seen flying planes into buildings lately?

how many middle eastern terrorists have you seen hanging on to massive stockpiles of weapons in the united states, including cyanide bombs? cause we've had several times more nazis found with such things since 9/11 than we've had islamic terrorists total over here.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:16
Three or four of them, actually.


The same number as there are of Jihadists who've done that in the last four years.

So why are you more worried about those other folks?
Mind you... if you reckon you can stuff THAT lot into Leavenworth or Marion, feel free to cal upon me for a bit of hands-on help. For personally, I'm not sure which of the 2 bunches is more interested in doing me in.
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:17
These won't be just any walls, they'll be DYNAMIC. I'm not sure how, though, maybe they'll have hinges so they can fall on passersby and then right themselves again, or something.but they have to spray some sort of sealant when they rise, that way the pretty patters in the ground will be preserved.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:23
how many middle eastern terrorists have you seen hanging on to massive stockpiles of weapons in the united states, including cyanide bombs? cause we've had several times more nazis found with such things since 9/11 than we've had islamic terrorists total over here.
The domestic terrorists don't actually do much though. They just seem to hang around in their secluded compounds taking target practice and posting craziness on the internet. Other than Oklahoma city I can't think of any attacks they've pulled off.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:26
The domestic terrorists don't actually do much though. They just seem to hang around in their secluded compounds taking target practice and posting craziness on the internet. Other than Oklahoma city I can't think of any attacks they've pulled off.

I'm afraid this speaks more for the attention you've paid to it, than for the reality.

Unless, of course, blowing up abortion clinics or lesbian nightclubs are considered 'not much' down your way...
Cahnt
28-01-2006, 18:27
So why are you more worried about those other folks?
Mind you... if you reckon you can stuff THAT lot into Leavenworth or Marion, feel free to cal upon me for a bit of hands-on help. For personally, I'm not sure which of the 2 bunches is more interested in doing me in.
I was just pointing out that the buiness in 2001 hasn't been repeated as yet, so it isn't necessarily proof that Jihadists are a greater threat to your country than home grown fascist militias. Presumably you now have air exclusion zones set up, which you obviously didn't at the time.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:28
Once again...ANYTHING but exterminating militant Islamists, right?

Curious... that doesn't seem to have any relation to my post... or the post I was replying to...?
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:29
I'm afraid this speaks more for the attention you've paid to it, than for the reality.

Unless, of course, blowing up abortion clinics or lesbian nightclubs are considered 'not much' down your way...
Oh, right. I forgot about those.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:32
Curious... that doesn't seem to have any relation to my post... or the post I was replying to...?

I think it was pretty clear.
You show a lack of determination to focus EXCUSIVELY on keeping the US safe, come what may.
Deviationism...
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:33
I'm afraid this speaks more for the attention you've paid to it, than for the reality.

Unless, of course, blowing up abortion clinics or lesbian nightclubs are considered 'not much' down your way...
curious tho... when was the last Abortion clinic or Homosexual nightclub attacked?
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:33
Oh, right. I forgot about those.

:D

There have also been lesser incidents of homegrown terrorism... from anthrax-scares at various postal centres and political groups, to pipebomb incidents... bombs placed in mailboxes, etc.

For some reason, though... the media seems to focus on terrorist activities ONLY when certain groups of foreigners can be implicated.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:35
:D

There have also been lesser incidents of homegrown terrorism... from anthrax-scares at various postal centres and political groups, to pipebomb incidents... bombs placed in mailboxes, etc.

For some reason, though... the media seems to focus on terrorist activities ONLY when certain groups of foreigners can be implicated.
Well the Al Qaeda attacks usually result in higher body counts per attack.
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:36
:D

There have also been lesser incidents of homegrown terrorism... from anthrax-scares at various postal centres and political groups, to pipebomb incidents... bombs placed in mailboxes, etc.

For some reason, though... the media seems to focus on terrorist activities ONLY when certain groups of foreigners can be implicated.sounds right, but when was the last Antrax/pipebomb incident reported? usually the media would scramble at those to show that Homeland security isn't working.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:36
I think it was pretty clear.
You show a lack of determination to focus EXCUSIVELY on keeping the US safe, come what may.
Deviationism...

I still don't see what this has to do with my derisive comments about Christianity, in response to derisive comments about Islam...

And... sorry, but WHY should I be focussing "EXCUSIVELY on keeping the US safe, come what may"...?

There are a lot of other people in this world... my concerns have less restrictive borders than your, perhaps?
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:38
Well the Al Qaeda attacks usually result in higher body counts per attack.

Body-counts are actually almost irrelent to terrorism... that's why it's called 'terror-ism'.

And... of course... body counts of astronomic proportions, are not necessarily evidence of terrorism, either...
Cahnt
28-01-2006, 18:39
Well the Al Qaeda attacks usually result in higher body counts per attack.
Attacks plural? I thought there'd only been the one in the 'States so far.
Randomlittleisland
28-01-2006, 18:39
These won't be just any walls, they'll be DYNAMIC. I'm not sure how, though, maybe they'll have hinges so they can fall on passersby and then right themselves again, or something.

That isn't good enough. All sections of walls must be fitted with motors so they can actively chase people. They will select people to chase on a bewildering variety of attributes which will be individual to each wall and will change everyday to make sure nobody gets complacent.

Once they catch people they will deactivate their motors, root themselves back into the ground and then use their hinges to fall on their victim.

Anyone who objects is a baby-eating jihadist who hates freedom so their opinion doesn't count.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:40
Body-counts are actually almost irrelent to terrorism... that's why it's called 'terror-ism'.

And... of course... body counts of astronomic proportions, are not necessarily evidence of terrorism, either...
Not according to Al Qaeda. They have stated that they aim to kill 4 million Americans. I'd say that big body counts are pretty important to them.
Maegi
28-01-2006, 18:41
curious tho... when was the last Abortion clinic or Homosexual nightclub attacked?

Well, from the minimal research I did, the last "bombing" was in 2001, but there have beens several more cases of arson since then.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/history_extreme.asp
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:41
Attacks plural? I thought there'd only been the one in the 'States so far.
There was the first world trade center attack in the '90s and then the 9/11 attack. Plus the government foiled a plot by Al Qaeda connected Algerian operatives that was scheduled to take place on the millenium.
Ritlina
28-01-2006, 18:41
Yes Yes, I'm Sure All They Want To Do Is Pick Pineapples. And Throw Them.
Valfri
28-01-2006, 18:42
I still don't see what this has to do with my derisive comments about Christianity, in response to derisive comments about Islam...

And... sorry, but WHY should I be focussing "EXCUSIVELY on keeping the US safe, come what may"...?

There are a lot of other people in this world... my concerns have less restrictive borders than your, perhaps?

Bear in mind that that was from a person that claims it is treason to assert that people have rights if those people happen to be the "enemy" (civilian or no) or just foreigners, (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10314359&postcount=43) and condones human rights abuses against civilians because the other side does, too. That, and the general islamophobia espoused in several of the posts here. So, umm, just so you know what you're dealing with.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:42
sounds right, but when was the last Antrax/pipebomb incident reported? usually the media would scramble at those to show that Homeland security isn't working.

Off the top of my head.... about a week and a half ago....

"He is charged with one count each of sending threatening communications across state lines via the Internet, and of conveying false and misleading information indicating use of biological weapons. Each count is punishable by up to five years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine plus restitution.

The U.S. Probation office in Oakland; the New Bridge Foundation residential drug rehabilitation center in Berkeley; and an FBI office in Watsonville received almost identical envelopes last week, all postmarked Jan. 16, containing a white powder and a paper signed "Paul Steeves,""

http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_3442813?source=rss (first article I found about it....)
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:42
Attacks plural? I thought there'd only been the one in the 'States so far.
technically yes. but embassies and US ships are considered US territories.
BogMarsh
28-01-2006, 18:43
I still don't see what this has to do with my derisive comments about Christianity, in response to derisive comments about Islam...

And... sorry, but WHY should I be focussing "EXCUSIVELY on keeping the US safe, come what may"...?

There are a lot of other people in this world... my concerns have less restrictive borders than your, perhaps?

In other words... you were defending Islam... have we got that correct?

Why the sudden urge to deride Christianity?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Well... unless you are not an American... such lack of focus certainly smells like aiding and abetting.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 18:44
technically yes. but embassies and US ships are considered US territories.
Why does everyone forget the first attack on the World Trade Center and the foiled millenium plot?
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:47
Not according to Al Qaeda. They have stated that they aim to kill 4 million Americans. I'd say that big body counts are pretty important to them.

Different parts of an agenda.

Al Qaeda may have claimed a certain number of Americans they'd like to see dead.... but that is almost an aside to the purpose of terrorism.

The function terrorism serves, is to cause fear... primarily with the aim of bringing about some (usually political) change.

Al-Qaeda terrorism has been very effective... the US has tied itself in knots about it, totally changing the way Americans do many things. In those terms, the terrorism has been very effective, and over an extended period.

Body-counts are almost irrelevent to that... although some Al-Qaeda members doubtless consider them a bonus.
Free Soviets
28-01-2006, 18:49
I'm afraid this speaks more for the attention you've paid to it, than for the reality.

Unless, of course, blowing up abortion clinics or lesbian nightclubs are considered 'not much' down your way...

and they have the potential to do a lot more. the guy with the cyanide bomb (and materials to make a lot more of them, and landmines, pipe bombs, briefcase bombs, machine guns, anti-tank rockets, etc) could have killed everyone in a 30,000 square foot building (think crowded nightclub or bar) by himself with just the one chemical weapon that he had ready to go.

so far we've been 'lucky', in that they are fairly disorganized and prone to random uncoordinated law-breaking which gets them arrested (and made them one of the main prison gangs in the country). so mostly it's murders in ones and twos, and the more regular beatings, robberies, and threats, with the occassional big boom or multi-state spree.
Valfri
28-01-2006, 18:49
In other words... you were defending Islam... have we got that correct?

Why the sudden urge to deride Christianity?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Well... unless you are not an American... such lack of focus certainly smells like aiding and abetting.

Told ya. Direct jump to accusations of treason (!) if you so much as defend the rights of Muslims, or counter a hypocritical attack on their religion, because, apparently, standing up for universal human rights is "aiding and abetting." :rolleyes:
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:49
Well, from the minimal research I did, the last "bombing" was in 2001, but there have beens several more cases of arson since then.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/history_extreme.aspthanks. but are you saying that any attacks on an abortion clinic is automatically Politically/religiously motivated?

Isn't that like saying that any forest fire is done by an eco-terrorists?
Maegi
28-01-2006, 18:50
Different parts of an agenda.

Al Qaeda may have claimed a certain number of Americans they'd like to see dead.... but that is almost an aside to the purpose of terrorism.

The function terrorism serves, is to cause fear... primarily with the aim of bringing about some (usually political) change.

Al-Qaeda terrorism has been very effective... the US has tied itself in knots about it, totally changing the way Americans do many things. In those terms, the terrorism has been very effective, and over an extended period.

Body-counts are almost irrelevent to that... although some Al-Qaeda members doubtless consider them a bonus.

Very well said.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 18:51
In other words... you were defending Islam... have we got that correct?

Why the sudden urge to deride Christianity?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Well... unless you are not an American... such lack of focus certainly smells like aiding and abetting.

Quit trolling.

One religion is insulted... for being no more ridiculous than many others.

Is that 'defending' Islam? Not so much... as an Atheist, I consider all religions fundamentally flawed.

And now.... the fact that I dared to speak against your vitriol means I am "aiding and abetting"?

Such rhetoric reminds me of historical phrases much like it....
JuNii
28-01-2006, 18:52
Why does everyone forget the first attack on the World Trade Center and the foiled millenium plot?
:headbang:
because we tend to only remember the successes?

yeah I do remember the first bombing in the parking structure, knocked out our Network connection for days.
Randomlittleisland
28-01-2006, 18:53
thanks. but are you saying that any attacks on an abortion clinic is automatically Politically/religiously motivated?

Isn't that like saying that any forest fire is done by an eco-terrorists?

I can't think of a non political/religous motivation to bomb an abortion clinic.
Maegi
28-01-2006, 18:53
thanks. but are you saying that any attacks on an abortion clinic is automatically Politically/religiously motivated?

Isn't that like saying that any forest fire is done by an eco-terrorists?

Um..no. Forest fires happen naturally all the time. If you have any reasonable explanation as to what other motivation arson attacks on abortion clinics could have, feel free to fill me in. Maybe the 9/11 hijackers weren't terrorists, they just didn't like the businesses in those buildings or the pentagon. :rolleyes:
JuNii
28-01-2006, 19:01
Um..no. Forest fires happen naturally all the time. If you have any reasonable explanation as to what other motivation arson attacks on abortion clinics could have, feel free to fill me in. Maybe the 9/11 hijackers weren't terrorists, they just didn't like the businesses in those buildings or the pentagon. :rolleyes:
why would anyone burn anything down? there have been arsons dealing with factories, homes, and warehouses that are not terror related but for other reasons.

not saying all the arsons at the clinics are not terror related but a couple could be just some stupid punks wanting to flic their bics.

what better way to hid their mischief. burn down a clinic and the police will look at the religous radicals.

oh and not all forest fires are started "natrually"
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2006, 19:02
Um..no. Forest fires happen naturally all the time. If you have any reasonable explanation as to what other motivation arson attacks on abortion clinics could have, feel free to fill me in. Maybe the 9/11 hijackers weren't terrorists, they just didn't like the businesses in those buildings or the pentagon. :rolleyes:

Maybe they were supposed to be starting work at the WTC that morning... but one thing led to another, and they had to catch later flights... and THEN they realised they weren't going to make it in time if they went to the airport... so they persuaded the pilots to fly them directly to their offices...
Maegi
28-01-2006, 19:05
why would anyone burn anything down? there have been arsons dealing with factories, homes, and warehouses that are not terror related but for other reasons.

not saying all the arsons at the clinics are not terror related but a couple could be just some stupid punks wanting to flic their bics.

what better way to hid their mischief. burn down a clinic and the police will look at the religous radicals.

oh and not all forest fires are started "natrually"

Well, considering that the question I was responding to was "when was the last abortion clinic attack?" I think I answered it...regardless if ALL of them were "terrorist" attacks.

Edit - and I didn't say all forest fires were natural, I said they happen naturally "all the time" which isn't meant to be taken literally, but an expression to state that they do happen in nature, and are relatively common without being started by "eco-terrorists".
JuNii
28-01-2006, 19:06
Maybe they were supposed to be starting work at the WTC that morning... but one thing led to another, and they had to catch later flights... and THEN they realised they weren't going to make it in time if they went to the airport... so they persuaded the pilots to fly them directly to their offices...
LOL: "yeah sir, my office is on the 43rd floor... just swing by and i'll hop off... oh no, you don't need to park, really, no problem at all... oh well if you insist.



wait, tho, there is no place to lan*boom*"
JuNii
28-01-2006, 19:07
Well, considering that the question I was responding to was "when was the last abortion clinic attack?" I think I answered it...regardless if ALL of them were "terrorist" attacks.
true that.

I was mostly curious since usually stuff like that makes news somewhere, and I just didn't recall hearing of any within the past 4 yrs or so.
Cahnt
28-01-2006, 19:08
Why does everyone forget the first attack on the World Trade Center and the foiled millenium plot?
The foiled millenium plot doesn't count because it didn't actually happen. The world trade centre was part of the same attack that also targeted the pentagon and elsewhere: the only al queda attack you've ever had within the 'States.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 19:12
The foiled millenium plot doesn't count because it didn't actually happen. The world trade centre was part of the same attack that also targeted the pentagon and elsewhere: the only al queda attack you've ever had within the 'States.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/26/newsid_2516000/2516469.stm

Read and learn. There have been at least two Al Qaeda attacks in the US. There has been at least one attack foiled shortly before it took place.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/inside/cron.html

Also Al Qaeda cells have been found in the US. They weren't here to work as day laborers, they were here to kill Americans.
Culaypene
28-01-2006, 19:16
The foiled millenium plot doesn't count because it didn't actually happen. The world trade centre was part of the same attack that also targeted the pentagon and elsewhere: the only al queda attack you've ever had within the 'States.


Wasn't the bomb that went off in the WTC a few years before Sep. 11 an Al Queda bomb? I mean, I'm not positive, but I think thats what I remember hearing.

But I'm not really hip to the terror. I can't keep all these attacks straight. Sign of Old Age.
Drunk commies deleted
28-01-2006, 19:18
Wasn't the bomb that went off in the WTC a few years before Sep. 11 an Al Queda bomb? I mean, I'm not positive, but I think thats what I remember hearing.

But I'm not really hip to the terror. I can't keep all these attacks straight. Sign of Old Age.
Yes it was. Ramzi Yusef was involved in the plot. He was an Al Qaeda agent.
Maegi
28-01-2006, 19:18
true that.

I was mostly curious since usually stuff like that makes news somewhere, and I just didn't recall hearing of any within the past 4 yrs or so.

Oh, I'm sure it makes news somewhere...just the major news networks seem to have other priorities over the past 4 years or so.
JuNii
28-01-2006, 19:20
Oh, I'm sure it makes news somewhere...just the major news networks seem to have other priorities over the past 4 years or so.le sigh... all news stops when theres a war. :rolleyes:
Maegi
28-01-2006, 19:22
le sigh... all news stops when theres a war. :rolleyes:

lol there's a bigger sigh than that. All news stops when there's something that sells. Persian Gulf early 90s, OJ Simpson trial, Michael Jackson, etc. We have a very single minded media.
Cahnt
28-01-2006, 19:34
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/26/newsid_2516000/2516469.stm

Read and learn. There have been at least two Al Qaeda attacks in the US. There has been at least one attack foiled shortly before it took place.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/inside/cron.html

Also Al Qaeda cells have been found in the US. They weren't here to work as day laborers, they were here to kill Americans.
I was forgetting the bomb in 1993 you're right. There've been two attacks then. The others don't count because they didn't happen.