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To my knowledge this is the first time Israel actually is warning of action vs Iran. I could be wrong...

With elections coming in March there is going to be a big defensive change for Israel. I predict a possible re-occupation of the recent withdrawn Israeli forces. Also a strike on Iran if things dont cool down by a large margin.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CD923E6D-833C-45CA-8A5F-ADEF609E1C68.htm

i love war!

I prophesize much war this coming up year..Scary war...war like no other..all taking place in the mideast...and if anyone attacks israel..bet your ass ill give up my american citizenship in a heart beat to go fight for the IDF

I prophesize much war this coming up year..Scary war...war like no other..all taking place in the mideast...and if anyone attacks israel..bet your ass ill give up my american citizenship in a heart beat to go fight for the IDF


No need to join the IDF. Just join the US military. You think the US would stay out of another mideast conflict?

Russia's mining the moon, Iran making the bomb, North Korea's got the bomb, Chin's getting stronger and Iraq isn't getting out of hell anytime soon. And then we've got bird flu. It's the end of the fucking world. Have fun with the rapture everyone I'll stay back and enjoy the party. Today is a good day to die!!!! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

If Another War starts, I'm moving to the Phillipines.

No need to join the IDF. Just join the US military. You think the US would stay out of another mideast conflict?


Well true..but i think there will be a day..well when the us won't be there to help out..i think this country is going to be hit hard this year..rendering it ineffective..

No need to join the IDF. Just join the US military. You think the US would stay out of another mideast conflict?

Ouch. That's the truth alright.

I’d prefer the US stay out of this, but if given the choice, I would side with Iran. They have oil and it would send a good message to the Arab people while causing the radical clerics that claim the US is controlled by Israel to loose legitimacy.
I prophesize much war this coming up year..Scary war...war like no other..all taking place in the mideast...and if anyone attacks israel..bet your ass ill give up my american citizenship in a heart beat to go fight for the IDF
Do as you wish, I hope death is enjoyable for you.

If Another War starts, I'm moving to the Phillipines.

ummm hmmmm.... Well if you don't mind the Islamic militant problem in the South of the country I'm sure you could find land cheap there...

I prophesize much war this coming up year..Scary war...war like no other..all taking place in the mideast...and if anyone attacks israel..bet your ass ill give up my american citizenship in a heart beat to go fight for the IDF
Sooo if Israel attacks Iran, you don't think Iran would be justified in striking back?

Sooo if Israel attacks Iran, you don't think Iran would be justified in striking back?


The playground fighting rule book says "YES".

ummm hmmmm.... Well if you don't mind the Islamic militant problem in the South of the country I'm sure you could find land cheap there...

Hey as long as I get to be surrounded by beautiful young women, all will be fine by me!

I’d prefer the US stay out of this, but if given the choice, I would side with Iran. They have oil and it would send a good message to the Arab people while causing the radical clerics that claim the US is controlled by Israel to loose legitimacy.

Do as you wish, I hope death is enjoyable for you.


you would rather choose oil than the sovergnity of a people? that is uber fucked up... I don't see how anyone can support an opressive regime.no matter what resources they have..i'd rather be poor and with out damned oil than to support a terrorist controlled regime. and my death would be most glorius. I'd be dying for honour, glory, and to protect the homeland of ancestors, and more importantly so many wonderful people.

I’d prefer the US stay out of this, but if given the choice, I would side with Iran. They have oil and it would send a good message to the Arab people while causing the radical clerics that claim the US is controlled by Israel to loose legitimacy.

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I would think the Bosnian action. Gulf War I and II and trying to broker peace with the Palestinians and Israeli's. Helping Indonesia after the "Tsunami" was that message. Not to mention many other things the US has done to "help" Muslims.

BTW there is plenty of oil in Mexico and Canada along with other US allies to go around.

if a lot of war comes this year than I am going to screw my college education, kiss the one(s) I love good bye, and join my buddy in Iraq. But what defines "a lot" 1? no. 2? no. 3? no. 4? no. 5 no......

Hey as long as I get to be surrounded by beautiful young women, all will be fine by me!


Phillipines in my opion has no corner on the beautiful women market. I would suggest Thailand although they have a Islamic militant problem too.

you would rather choose oil than the sovergnity of a people? that is uber fucked up... I don't see how anyone can support an opressive regime.no matter what resources they have..i'd rather be poor and with out damned oil than to support a terrorist controlled regime. and my death would be most glorius. I'd be dying for honour, glory, and to protect the homeland of ancestors, and more importantly so many wonderful people.

Very beutiful. Go kick their ass for me because I'm to lazy.

if a lot of war comes this year than I am going to screw my college education, kiss the one(s) I love good bye, and join my buddy in Iraq. But what defines "a lot" 1? no. 2? no. 3? no. 4? no. 5 no......


I fought in a war and made it through college afterward. No need to blow it off altogether. I thought it was easier anyway after I got older.

you would rather choose oil than the sovergnity of a people? that is uber fucked up... I don't see how anyone can support an opressive regime.no matter what resources they have..i'd rather be poor and with out damned oil than to support a terrorist controlled regime. and my death would be most glorius. I'd be dying for honour, glory, and to protect the homeland of ancestors, and more importantly so many wonderful people.

Zilam, I salute you. I would be honored to fight by your side, brother in Abraham.

Phillipines in my opion has no corner on the beautiful women market. I would suggest Thailand although they have a Islamic militant problem too.

Hmmm that is true. Eh maybe I'll just go live in the North Pole. Either way I'm going to be leaving any country thats involved in the war and just wait it out.

Zilam, I salute you. I would be honored to fight by your side, brother in Abraham.


Peace be with you my friend and brother.

Zilam, I salute you. I would be honored to fight by your side, brother in Abraham.
Wow could you two be any more corny? :D
*Starts playing dramatic music* "Aye this is the day we draw swords together. This is the day we fight for our FREEEEEDDOOOOMM..."


I mean I am for Jew power and all but cmon guys, who the hell talks like that anymore?

you would rather choose oil than the sovergnity of a people? that is uber fucked up... I don't see how anyone can support an opressive regime.no matter what resources they have..i'd rather be poor and with out damned oil than to support a terrorist controlled regime. and my death would be most glorius. I'd be dying for honour, glory, and to protect the homeland of ancestors, and more importantly so many wonderful people.
As if the Israelis wouldn’t be violating Iran’s sovereignty.:rolleyes:
I would think the Bosnian action. Gulf War I and II and trying to broker peace with the Palestinians and Israeli's. Helping Indonesia after the "Tsunami" was that message. Not to mention many other things the US has done to "help" Muslims.
Helping them to crush Israel would get us on their good list forever. I don’t think very many people could argue against that. No more Islamic Terrorism in the US, and more importantly, no more PATRIOT act.
Zilam, I salute you. I would be honored to fight by your side, brother in Abraham.
Bunch of traitors.

Wow could you two be any more corny? :D
*Starts playing dramatic music* "Aye this is the day we draw swords together. This is the day we fight for our FREEEEEDDOOOOMM..."


I mean I am for Jew power and all but cmon guys, who the hell talks like that anymore?

Oh shut up I was enjoying it...

I just decided that Iran's gonna kill us on Earth and Russia's going to kill us from the moon so I need a scapegoat... The old confederacy! Those damn rebels... Don't make us burn Atlanta again...

Well, now we'll see how much the US really cares about the Iraqi people.
If they do, they'll tell Israel to sit the fuck down and shut up for a while.
If they don't, they'll let Israel start a war, and watch Iraq get destroyed by it.

I'm a Midshipman so I probably won't be able to fight in anything coming up (unless I go on a Midshipman cruise aboard a ship that ends up going into a hotzone, but that's unlikely.) I am officially in the USNR right now though. I can't wait to get my commission, but that is over 3 years away.

Well, now we'll see how much the US really cares about the Iraqi people.
If they do, they'll tell Israel to sit the fuck down and shut up for a while.
If they don't, they'll let Israel start a war, and watch Iraq get destroyed by it.
How will Iraq get destroyed. There will be no war. Iran can't really do much more than lob some medium range ballistic missiles that will get shot down by Arrow II.

I doubt Israel will re-occupy the Gaza Strip. They will focus on the Iranians. Expect major expansion of Arrow ABM system.

If Israel goes to war, I will pray for them. I would join them, but the less said about my physical abilities, the better.

I would also watch many of my friends go to Israel to fight.

How will Iraq get destroyed. There will be no war. Iran can't really do much more than lob some medium range ballistic missiles that will get shot down by Arrow II.
If Iran gets attacked by Israel, they won't make a difference between Israel and the US.
Sure they'll fire a few missiles, but they will also attack US Forces in Iraq. The Mehdi Army has already declared that if Iran was attacked, they'd take up arms against the Coalition. I have my doubts whether even old Al-Sustani would have a problem with defending Shi'ite-Islam.

The Kurds won't want to get involved, so they'll declare independence. And the Sunnis are angry already. And in the end, any progress made in Iraq will be turned to naught, and it'll end up worse than straight after the US Invasion.

I love Israel as Jew, but my loyalties are to my country America. I am a Midshipman in the USNR and am fiercely loyal to America. It is the only country where a Jew can be a minority and also be 100% free. European Jews still have to deal with anti-semetic bullshit.

I wouldn't sign up to fight for the IDF because Israel is not my country no matter how much I love it. The USA is my country and I will proudly defend her.

A conventional war in Iraq where they blow eachother up is far better than a nuclear war. Take your pick.

ANd God help Iran if they attack. If they send in regular military formations they will be eaten alive. Our troops are more trained to do that than fight insurgents. The Iranians would get whupped by US and Israeli air power too. It would be a lot like Gulf War I.

Helping them to crush Israel would get us on their good list forever. I don’t think very many people could argue against that. No more Islamic Terrorism in the US, and more importantly, no more PATRIOT act.

Bunch of traitors.

Yeah, that would work:rolleyes: just like selling out poland and austria to the Nazis won the friendship of fascism.

I am no traitor. I am a proud and patriotic citizen of the united states of america. I would lay down my life in a second for America if called to duty. I am also a Jew, and I have a responsibility to my people. It is my good fortune that the country I love and my people are on the same side in the culture war against the threat of islamofascism.

A conventional war in Iraq where they blow eachother up is far better than a nuclear war. Take your pick.
Ten years, my friend. We've got ten bloody years before anything at all could happen.
Don't rush just because you've got a stack of unused guns around.

ANd God help Iran if they attack. If they send in regular military formations they will be eaten alive. Our troops are more trained to do that than fight insurgents. The Iranians would get whupped by US and Israeli air power too. It would be a lot like Gulf War I.
Except that you wouldn't have as much time to prepare this time 'round. And that the Iranians care about their country and tolerate their leadership, while the Iraqis under Saddam were just glad if he didn't kill them.

And besides, who cares about who wins the war? It's the people who have to live with it I care about, and apparently I'm one of the few people who actually take it seriously when I talk about the interests of the Iraqi people.

Iran doesn't have to win to do the damage I'm afraid of.

To my knowledge this is the first time Israel actually is warning of action vs Iran.

and america just started talking about Iran again. amazing coincidences between US-funded israel and the US stance on everything.

...the threat of islamofascism.
While you're using this term firmly rooted in political science...could you define for me how Islamism is Fascist?

Because In places like Iran/saudi arabia,if you are not muslim, you have no rights there. These regimes are also characterized by militarism and nationalistic anti-western propaganda, and the religious, governmental authorities have a high degree of control over the lives of the citizenry.

While you're using this term firmly rooted in political science...could you define for me how Islamism is Fascist?
He isn't saying Islam is fascist. He is saying the radical Islamists are. Islamofascists is a term I use a lot when describing the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia.

He isn't saying Islam is fascist. He is saying the radical Islamists are. Islamofascists is a term I use a lot when describing the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia.
And you'd be wrong. Fascism is different from Islamism (which is what you mean).
I know it's all trendy these days to do the Godwin, but the more we stick to the facts, the better our decisions will be.

To my knowledge this is the first time Israel actually is warning of action vs Iran. I could be wrong...

With elections coming in March there is going to be a big defensive change for Israel. I predict a possible re-occupation of the recent withdrawn Israeli forces. Also a strike on Iran if things dont cool down by a large margin.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CD923E6D-833C-45CA-8A5F-ADEF609E1C68.htm

Your source is Al Jazeera. I want to see it in a news source that ISN'T a propoganda machine for the anti-western and anti-semitic extremest muslim school of thought before I will even think on believing it.

In other words, I believe anything Al Jazeera reports about as much as I believe in the tooth fairy. Which is not at all.

I can’t believe no one has mentioned the S 300's Iran has got. If any Israeli plans go over Iran near where the S 300's are deployed those Israeli planes will be shot out of the Sky.

http://www.missilethreat.com/systems/s-300p.html were looking at one of the best Air Defense missile systems in the World, not even the Americans have a system that can match the S 300 yet and the S400 is on the way.

I want to see it in a news source that ISN'T a propoganda machine for the anti-western and anti-semitic extremest muslim school of thought before I will even think on believing it.
Come on, man.
This is the English site. It's no more biased than the BBC. The things people have trouble with sometimes is the Arab version for Arab consumption.

And besides, Netanyahu has been talking about strikes on Iran for months now, this can hardly be that new to you.

Plus, for the record, Arabs are semites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite).

I can’t believe no one has mentioned the S 300's Iran has got.
I thought they weren't ready for deployment for some time yet.

Plus, for the record, Arabs are semites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite).

Oh you have got to be kidding me... Anti-semitism specifically refers to hatred of Jews, and everyone knows it. You know it and you are just splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs.

Yeah, that would work:rolleyes: just like selling out poland and austria to the Nazis won the friendship of fascism.
Hey now. Austria wanted to join, as did many Poles.

The problem was that Britain and France didn’t sell out Poland. If they had followed through with appeasement, there may not have been a World War II as we know it. Probably just a massive war between the Germans and the Soviets ending in the almost complete destruction of each other.

Damn you Neville Chamberlain!

Come on, man.
This is the English site. It's no more biased than the BBC. The things people have trouble with sometimes is the Arab version for Arab consumption.

And besides, Netanyahu has been talking about strikes on Iran for months now, this can hardly be that new to you.

Plus, for the record, Arabs are semites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite).

Sorry, but I never pass up an opportunity to question someone's source, or to trash Al Jazeera. Every now and then the English site slips a translated "for Arabs article" in though. I just hate propoganda news sites. Fox News is #2 on my hit list. Even though CNN isn't all that much better.

Of course there has been talk by several Israeli politicians about strikes on Iran, I just want the OP or someone to have an "other than Al Jazeera" source to reference.

But nice info on the semite term. I had always thought it strictly meant ethnic jews. Even I learn something every day. Although I must question your source. :rolleyes: Wiki isn't that reliable. You could have gone in there and written that just so you could bust my chops.

Oh you have got to be kidding me... Anti-semitism specifically refers to hatred of Jews, and everyone knows it. You know it and you are just splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs.
:p

But usually there is a darker side to my hairsplitting, in this case that I don't at all accept the idea of a "Jewish People", of some sort of connection between the tribesmen of millennia ago and the Israelis today. Jews have lived everywhere since the Romans took over, and they mixed with everyone else. I am not a Cheruskan or a Goth or a Saxon, despite those living in the place I now call home a long time ago.
All the "genetic research" I have seen so far has specifically been funded for the purpose of finding this link, and are therefore not really believable.

So I'd define a Jew as I would define anyone else: Someone of Jewish faith, who perhaps speaks Hebrew. No more, no less - and indeed, if I converted to Judaism today, my genetics wouldn't really change, would they.

A conventional war in Iraq where they blow eachother up is far better than a nuclear war. Take your pick.

ANd God help Iran if they attack. If they send in regular military formations they will be eaten alive. Our troops are more trained to do that than fight insurgents. The Iranians would get whupped by US and Israeli air power too. It would be a lot like Gulf War I.


Dude, I am a Sgt. in the US Marine Corps and an Iraqi Freedom vet. I have to agree with Neu Leonstein. Our forces are tired. We have fought two wars and still haven't acheived our objective. Yes we liberated the Iraqi's but sadly politics interfered and we can no longer claim their liberation as our cause our rallying cry. We like the vietnam veterans are now fighting a war with no true direction anymore. A conflict with Iran will not go well. You will see a mass exodus out of the military from beligered vets no longer willing to fight and kill without a solid cause to march behind. IDF, you are still a simple recruit and believe the propganda that is explained to you. Now don't get me wrong, I am a very rabid conservative but I supported the war because it freed a people that were subject to a brutality not seen since Hitler. History may group my war as a quagmire and I almost weep at thinking that that may just happen, but it's important you remember that our troops are above everything here. Without our support your war wont happen. So I suggest you start thinking more like Neu Leonstein. She has the right idea. Weary and beliegered we have seen our brothers die and we have lost pieces of our humanity by killing others we still remain loyal, but not to a President or our country, but to the ideals of freedom. Now I think I digressed a little here but the point is take from a vet, war is Hell, you haven't been there yet, don't be so anxious to go and more so don't be so anxious to start one. There is a human element you must always keep in mind.

...So I suggest you start thinking more like Neu Leonstein. She has the right idea...
Why thank you. :)

Just for the record though...I'm a guy, and I don't know why my title reads "Cabbage Patch Girl" right now. :p

Why thank you. :)

Just for the record though...I'm a guy, and I don't know why my title reads "Cabbage Patch Girl" right now. :p
Sorry ha ha, there is no info and normally I prefer to just read threads and very rarely respond. I just think IDF is goiong on the wrong path in his career. If I can effect him now I can possibly stear him down the right path, which is not being a "douchebag" officer but rather being a cool one that values his troops.

Come on, man.
This is the English site. It's no more biased than the BBC. The things people have trouble with sometimes is the Arab version for Arab consumption.

And besides, Netanyahu has been talking about strikes on Iran for months now, this can hardly be that new to you.

Plus, for the record, Arabs are semites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite).


Can tell you first hand that the Arabic version and the English language version are different on many occasions. They word things different and alot of times the stories are different all together. It is interesting to flip through both sites and see how they present it in Arabic vs English. I do notice the English site is less flamatory and does alot more mundane stories. However biased Al Jazeera is at times they are a news agency. They in my opinion do not fabricate whole stories about what a leader has said. Normally they are accurate in this sense. They may translate wrong but not by much. Some of what Bush has said is translated into a different type of meaning in Arabic. So the reader may get a different view on what is said. But anyway they do pander to the Arabic world. So I do see why they present some stories the way they do. Much like in some westren media outlets.

Why thank you. :)

Just for the record though...I'm a guy, and I don't know why my title reads "Cabbage Patch Girl" right now. :p


Mine reads miss pacman. Who knows.....;)

To my knowledge this is the first time Israel actually is warning of action vs Iran. I could be wrong...

With elections coming in March there is going to be a big defensive change for Israel. I predict a possible re-occupation of the recent withdrawn Israeli forces. Also a strike on Iran if things dont cool down by a large margin.

Missed my thread on this from Sunday, didn't you. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464700

Your source is Al Jazeera. I want to see it in a news source that ISN'T a propoganda machine for the anti-western and anti-semitic extremest muslim school of thought before I will even think on believing it.

In other words, I believe anything Al Jazeera reports about as much as I believe in the tooth fairy. Which is not at all.

How about the AP.

To my knowledge this is the first time Israel actually is warning of action vs Iran. I could be wrong...

With elections coming in March there is going to be a big defensive change for Israel. I predict a possible re-occupation of the recent withdrawn Israeli forces. Also a strike on Iran if things dont cool down by a large margin.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CD923E6D-833C-45CA-8A5F-ADEF609E1C68.htm

That's nothing, it barely qualifies as a threat - merely a statement of the obvious.