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My rant on Women

The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 20:31
Well not really. My thesis is this: Women scare me, ergo, I have no women.

You might ask, "Why? Oh why, The Doors Corporation, are you scared of WOMEN? You are always talking dirty, always horny, and seem like such a pleasant man."

Well I would reply, "They scare me because I can not figure them out, because they are always so picky on smell and looks. E.G. If I smell just a little TO MUCH of cologne...BAM no way. If I smell a little sweaty BAM no way. No matter what I do I feel like I fail. Every "chance" always just seems to be a crude joke of God's to remind me that I am and will always be a little geeky psychotic nerd."

You then might say....oh screw this dialogue...
Anyhow yeah, I am a good socially, and looks, good, but I just can't GET the words out. So scary...I have respiration problems when I try! (Use of hyperbole right there)

So yeah...I like a girl in my class at college. We totally have a chance together, but I don't want to slooooowly get to know her. I want to be like "Hi! I'm the doors corporation, want to go out to coffee and study and debate for a while?"

And then she'd be all like "well of course i would lol *~*~*~*~*~* 8>8>8> 8> I Heart you so much lolololo!" Wait no..she wouldn't be like that, little 12 year girls are like that. All right I'm just rambling..I go now
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-01-2006, 20:33
...the fuck?

You know they can smell fear, right?
Dinaverg
26-01-2006, 20:36
They can? That explains so much...
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 20:36
...the fuck?

You know they can smell fear, right?

shit! I've got to invest in more body spray or something..
...or just grow some balls eh?
Call to power
26-01-2006, 20:38
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.
Amtray
26-01-2006, 20:40
...the fuck?

You know they can smell fear, right?
No they can't smell fear. Its more subtle than that.Kinda like a sharks lateral sense.;)
Evil little girls
26-01-2006, 20:42
shit! I've got to invest in more body spray or something..
...or just grow some balls eh?

Nahh, they tend to smell even worse........


What?


WHAT??
Bottle
26-01-2006, 20:42
Well not really. My thesis is this: Women scare me, ergo, I have no women.

You might ask, "Why? Oh why, The Doors Corporation, are you scared of WOMEN? You are always talking dirty, always horny, and seem like such a pleasant man."

Well I would reply, "They scare me because I can not figure them out, because they are always so picky on smell and looks. E.G. If I smell just a little TO MUCH of cologne...BAM no way. If I smell a little sweaty BAM no way. No matter what I do I feel like I fail. Every "chance" always just seems to be a crude joke of God's to remind me that I am and will always be a little geeky psychotic nerd."

You then might say....oh screw this dialogue...
Anyhow yeah, I am a good socially, and looks, good, but I just can't GET the words out. So scary...I have respiration problems when I try! (Use of hyperbole right there)

So yeah...I like a girl in my class at college. We totally have a chance together, but I don't want to slooooowly get to know her. I want to be like "Hi! I'm the doors corporation, want to go out to coffee and study and debate for a while?"

And then she'd be all like "well of course i would lol *~*~*~*~*~* 8>8>8> 8> I Heart you so much lolololo!" Wait no..she wouldn't be like that, little 12 year girls are like that. All right I'm just rambling..I go now

If you are choosing to pursue picky, immature women who follow behavior patterns that you cannot understand, then the problem is with YOU.

You are seeking out women who are not worth your attention. You are finding yourself attracted to females who are clearly unable to function as adults, and who have been spoiled enough to believe that other people should accomodate their rude behavior. You also may not yet be mature enough to understand complex adult behavior, though I must admit it is more likely that the women you are choosing to pursue are simply irrational...this is because society increasingly encourages women to be stupid, bossy, and trivial.

The best advice is for you to stop pursuing this kind of woman. Examine yourself to figure out why you are attracted to such controling, immature, irrational individuals. Once you figure it out, fix it, and then try pursuing more worthwhile women.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-01-2006, 20:43
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.
If you bring a gun and sneak up on people in dark alleyways, they will beg for you to let them do anything for you. I often sneak up on lone women and play Yahtzee with them.
[NS:::]Vegetarianistica
26-01-2006, 20:43
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.

i happen to like guys with no money, 'cause that means they're in school!!! yayyy!!!
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 20:44
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.

I dunno...I can go out with no money and you know..have a good time. LIke I can visit an internet cafe and post on NS..I'd consider that a pretty good time.

Hahaha just kidding.


OR AM I?
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-01-2006, 20:44
shit! I've got to invest in more body spray or something..
...or just grow some balls eh?

Yeah, that's the solution. A tennis ball tree.
Call to power
26-01-2006, 20:45
play Yahtzee

you monster!:p
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-01-2006, 20:45
I dunno...I can go out with no money and you know..have a good time. LIke I can visit an internet cafe and post on NS..I'd consider that a pretty good time.

Hahaha just kidding.


OR AM I?

You don't like posting here? It's not a good time to you, huh? **gets bat**

why make white text small. it's still bloody white
Zabellan
26-01-2006, 20:46
like Bottle said.:)

or alternatively you could just try being gay, if you find the recurring behavioural patterns of females too confusing and difficult to comprehend, or at least tolerate. :rolleyes:
Katurkalurkmurkastan
26-01-2006, 20:46
If you bring a gun and sneak up on people in dark alleyways, they will beg for you to let them do anything for you. I often sneak up on lone women and play Yahtzee with them.

Yahtzee? YAHTZEE? no, no, no! SCRABBLE.
Amtray
26-01-2006, 20:48
The best advice is for you to stop pursuing this kind of woman. Examine yourself to figure out why you are attracted to such controling, immature, irrational individuals. Once you figure it out, fix it, and then try pursuing more worthwhile women.
I tried that all my life and still end up with irrational women.It seems the more attracted a man is to them the more irrational they seem.
Isselmere
26-01-2006, 20:50
First off, I must say this one thing: as with women, so with men.

With that out of the way, I must agree with Bottle. Unfortunately, I know all too well about the "everything must be just way X" mannerisms. As many women have told other women, so men must tell other men: go with those who like you for whom you are, not some passive aggressive control freak who seeks some illusory ideal.
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 20:52
If you are choosing to pursue picky, immature women who follow behavior patterns that you cannot understand, then the problem is with YOU.

You are seeking out women who are not worth your attention. You are finding yourself attracted to females who are clearly unable to function as adults, and who have been spoiled enough to believe that other people should accomodate their rude behavior. You also may not yet be mature enough to understand complex adult behavior, though I must admit it is more likely that the women you are choosing to pursue are simply irrational...this is because society increasingly encourages women to be stupid, bossy, and trivial.

The best advice is for you to stop pursuing this kind of woman. Examine yourself to figure out why you are attracted to such controling, immature, irrational individuals. Once you figure it out, fix it, and then try pursuing more worthwhile women.


Damn, I never thought Bottle would....take the time for me! Well, I am honored this does mean much to me. Firstly, my original post was a rant, a mix of truth and hysterical lunacy. So some of the things I mentioned would never happen. I do firmly believe that the woman I am quite interested in right now is very little of what you spoke on - bossy, stupid, and trivial - and in fact I think she is quite mature. E.G. Our similarities are many, she has a major that is related to mine, which means (I would think and hope) our personalities, abilities, and character traites are again, similar [one way or another]. What I cherish most from your post is that I should settle down, examine myself, and figure out the whats and whys of who I am attracted to. In conclusion, I feel that the fault, the error, is mine. I love danger and excitement, yet fear the excitement of starting a conversation with one who I am quite impressively drawn too.
Thank you.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-01-2006, 20:52
you monster!:p
It's there all the time, driving me out to wander the streets, following me, silently, but I can feel it there. It's me, pursuing myself! I want to escape, to escape from myself! But it's impossible. I can't escape, I have to obey it. I have to run, run... endless streets. I want to escape, to get away! And I'm pursued by ghosts. The ghosts of women and dice... they never leave me. They are always there... always, always, always!, except when I do it, when I... Then I can't remember anything. And afterwards I see those posters and read what I've done, and read, and read... did I do that? But I can't remember anything about it! But who will believe me? Who knows what it's like to be me? How I'm forced to act... how I must, must... don't want to, must! Don't want to, but must! And then a voice screams, "YAHTZEE!" I can't bear to hear it! I can't go on! I can't... I can't...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
26-01-2006, 20:54
Anyhow yeah, I am a good socially, and looks, good, but I just can't GET the words out. So scary...I have respiration problems when I try! (Use of hyperbole right there)

So yeah...I like a girl in my class at college. We totally have a chance together, but I don't want to slooooowly get to know her. I want to be like "Hi! I'm the doors corporation, want to go out to coffee and study and debate for a while?"

Hm. Here's a secret: Everybody is nervous when mustering up the courage to ask someone out. Nobody comes off "cool" in a situation like that, the potential for mutual embarrassement is obvious and you both know it. So, basically: just do it. What's the worst that could happen? And no, she's not going to laugh at you. You guys are in college, not junior high. The worst is, she's says no and you feel like an idiot. Well, first there's no reason to feel like an idiot (though you still will), and secondly, you'll get over it.

So - for what to say exactly, I'm picturing something quite like this:
"Hi! I'm the doors corporation, want to go out to coffee and study and debate for a while?"

See? You already know what to to do. Now go and do it. :)
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 20:58
All right, so in finality, I decide that five days from now, when I see her next. I WILL talk to her. When next I post my addendum to this first thread, I will know her name, I will know where she lives, and I will [know] something..SOMETHING about her. I can not let all the nerds who were like me down. ONE OF US has got to discover love.
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-01-2006, 21:05
ONE OF US has got to discover love.

Oh, nerds know all about love. The chemical composition, the mathematical properties, viscosity, magnetic field strength etc. etc. The part we don't know is how to get the love into women.
Pure Metal
26-01-2006, 21:09
women are scary because they are yummy... especially the attractive ones. get talking to ugly chicks to build up your confidence.

(j/k... or am i? ;))
Whereyouthinkyougoing
26-01-2006, 21:10
women are scary because they are yummy... especially the attractive ones. get talking to ugly chicks to build up your confidence.

(j/k... or am i? ;))
Hey, hey, young man, I nominated you for the eternal kindness award, so don't go ruin your chances - that vote post can still be edited, you know.

(j/k... or am i? ;))
Squillywiggle
26-01-2006, 21:12
the doors corporation i think u shud jst ask her out.... if shes anythin like the girls i know, shes prob havin the same fears/issues your havin anyway, n she'll be glad if u make the first move.....

oh and good luck!!
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 21:13
women are scary because they are yummy... especially the attractive ones. get talking to ugly chicks to build up your confidence.

(j/k... or am i? ;))

you guys making me laugh a lo. But yeah....I dunno...about that uuh "talking to ugly chicks" thing. See...I already have one. .. "of them"....following me around. yeah....

..
them
The Plutonian Empire
26-01-2006, 21:13
why go through all this trouble when you can simply buy "The Sims" or "The Sims 2" and create your own fantasy woman? :D
Jenrak
26-01-2006, 21:14
Hey, hey, young man, I nominated you for the eternal kindness award, so don't go ruin your chances - that vote post can still be edited, you know.

(j/k... or am i? ;))

Ooh. Internet sarcasm - the most blatant of all sarcasm.
Stone Bridges
26-01-2006, 21:16
Eh I've been single for 3 years, trying to figure out women just gives me a huge pain in my brain. :headbang: . Now I just spend my time with family, friends, and hobby. I tell ya, when you're flying at 3,000 feet in the air. You forget all about women and you just enjoy the view. I've been single for 3 years now and eh it's not all bad. I've come to realize that I may never find my significant other, and that's ok. I am happy with myself, who I am, what I want out of life and my goals. That is what most important to me.
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 21:18
I have no family. Great friends, but no family. Sorry about my previous post being unreadable.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
26-01-2006, 21:19
Ooh. Internet sarcasm - the most blatant of all sarcasm.

Wait - are you saying PM wasn't serious? :eek:
The Aghast
26-01-2006, 21:21
The part we don't know is how to get the love into women.

Three words. Hot. Beef. Injection.

Sorry, I show up, randomly for the first time ever, and say, well, that.

I'm a woman. Here's my take on all this. We like clean boys who stand up straight, look us in the eye, say something funny, then throw us up against a wall and.... sorry. That's just me.

Generally. Don't do or say anything that's overtly like "i'm trying to get into your knickers". It's more about just being friends. Girls like boys who they get on with, and who don't make them feel all self conscious. And there's nothing more unnerving than a shifty, sweaty person, who's too scared to make eye contact so instead they just look at your tits, or, if they're really scared, your feet (even more of an insult).

Or, on the other hand, just get her drunk... I'm forever falling in drunk-love with my male friends. NB - get her drunk, but don't give her rohypnol. that's illegal.

Oh yeah, one more thing. It's about being able to judge, very quickly, if you're in with a chance or not. (obviously this is hard if you're an insecure wreck who thinks everyone hates them. but trusting you're a fair judge...) This quick judgement means that you can abort doomed missions early enough that you don't pine after them forever and not notice the fit girl running around topless somewhere because you're too busy crying or something.

Fuck, where is all of this coming from? Lot of rant in me tonight... well, nice meeting you all!

Shelly.
Ruloah
26-01-2006, 21:21
All right, so in finality, I decide that five days from now, when I see her next. I WILL talk to her. When next I post my addendum to this first thread, I will know her name, I will know where she lives, and I will [know] something..SOMETHING about her. I can not let all the nerds who were like me down. ONE OF US has got to discover love.

The toughest thing to do is get started. Start with something you both have in common, like breathing, or carrying books, or liking to take tests, or wearing shoes, or anything.

If she laughs, it may be that she likes your sense of humor. If she does, you are home free!


There are women out there who really like nerds and geeks, so don't be discouraged. The ones you have been approaching sound like really shallow pretty-girls, who spend their time worrying about appearances, theirs and yours.

And give being just friends at first a try. That way, the pressure is off, you can have fun together and just talk, get to know one another.

Always take advantage of opportunities. The woman you accidentally almost bump and knock off her feet, could be...the one!:D
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 21:30
wait..so you're saying not all women are as easily offended about smell and stuff? Because some of my past acquaintances and ALL of my lady friends are..
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-01-2006, 21:33
Three words. Hot. Beef. Injection.

Sorry, I show up, randomly for the first time ever, and say, well, that.

~~snip~~

Nice first post.

(~~snip~~ just means I didn't want to quote the whole of your post, because it was long. Well said, but long)
Skibereen
26-01-2006, 21:34
Do not ASK her to go out with you. Do not fetch and beg, if you ask her anything ask her WHEN, asume the YES and go directly to the second step.
Assume the YES.
She already wants to go out with you,

So just ask her WHEN.

Now of course I am grown and I might be placing a little to muc haggression on you depending on your age, but I have never , ever met a woman, girl, whatever who was worth a shyt who liked meely mouthed head bobbers---dont beg, your a fecking man for goodness sakes.

I dont mean be Chav, Jock, cocky bastard, but shite---If you dont think she should go out with you--then why in the hell should she think it.


Never met a female out of my league---getting shot down is even kind of fun, then you get to laugh at all the guys to scared to get in the air.

Just assume the YES,
I assume you know her,

Just go to and say hey, "So when are just me and you going to go out and spend a little time together, I KNOW you KNOW I like you...quite a bit...so I am going to call you on X, and we are going to do something, ok."
Note the PERIOD not a question mark.

Smile, look her in the eyes but dont bone-hawk her like a psycho, when you smile always be pulling it back in--never to broad except when you are laughing then it should be as full as you can--then restrained ecenomically with solid eye contact---if she retracts at casual touches to the shoulder or hand---give up--she doesnt like you.

DO not exceed casual contact--allow her to intiate anymore aggression then that--then you be the one who exhibits restraint------

Or something like that.
Stone Bridges
26-01-2006, 21:35
wait..so you're saying not all women are as easily offended about smell and stuff? Because some of my past acquaintances and ALL of my lady friends are..

Airplanes aren't picky.
Pure Metal
26-01-2006, 21:35
Hey, hey, young man, I nominated you for the eternal kindness award, so don't go ruin your chances - that vote post can still be edited, you know.

(j/k... or am i? ;))
lol! :p

*bribes* ;)
Maegi
26-01-2006, 21:36
Oh, nerds know all about love. The chemical composition, the mathematical properties, viscosity, magnetic field strength etc. etc. The part we don't know is how to get the love into women.

Ah yes...they're so reluctant to sit down for an injection of the proper chemicals;)
Legless Pirates
26-01-2006, 21:39
I don't know myself but I still sometimes... you know..... ;) *ahem ahem*
Maegi
26-01-2006, 21:39
<snip>

Oh god, not more David DeAngelo preaching. There is middle ground. You know, inviting, not begging, without assuming the answer is yes. I would sooner slit my wrists and drown myself in acid than act the way he suggests.
The Doors Corporation
26-01-2006, 21:41
Airplanes aren't picky.
AC-130's are.

Thanks to Skibereen for big BIG advice apparently not considered the best tho. I'll think on it.
The Aghast
26-01-2006, 21:45
wait..so you're saying not all women are as easily offended about smell and stuff? Because some of my past acquaintances and ALL of my lady friends are..

well, it's a gradiated scale. I could forgive a bloke for a slight whiff, if he was otherwise wonderful. but then if he was a knob, he could smell like fucking roses and it would make no difference. smell is a factor, but never the deciding one.

and on being easily offended... bloody women.
Pugnacious Illiterate
26-01-2006, 21:46
...the fuck?

You know they can smell fear, right?

I don’t think you want a woman’s advice but, here it goes anyway.

Yeah, we are complex. Don’t try to analyze us because your head will explode. If you want to talk about how much of a psychotic debater you are, then go ahead. Chances are what scares on girl off will attract another.

And yes – we can smell fear. But do not douse yourself in cologne. Generally the female population would sneeze at you more than try and engage you in a conversation.

Hell, what do I know? I’m a psychotic bibliophile. Maybe you shouldn’t take my advice because I have two X-chromosomes.

Fuck – relationships are over rated anyway.
Pure Metal
26-01-2006, 21:47
Wait - are you saying PM wasn't serious? :eek:
am i ever serious?

thats for me to know and you to find out.... :eek: :D
The Aghast
26-01-2006, 21:47
Ah yes...they're so reluctant to sit down for an injection of the proper chemicals;)

my friend pete actually tried to chloroform his girlfriend once. She gave him a black eye. They were 17 and 18 at the time. he thought it'd be funny.

at 22 and 23, they're still happy together, btw. she must have liked it, just a little bit...
Pugnacious Illiterate
26-01-2006, 21:52
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Generally. Don't do or say anything that's overtly like "i'm trying to get into your knickers". It's more about just being friends. Girls like boys who they get on with, and who don't make them feel all self conscious. And there's nothing more unnerving than a shifty, sweaty person, who's too scared to make eye contact so instead they just look at your tits, or, if they're really scared, your feet (even more of an insult).



Props to that. I agree with her. So there you go, you have to female points of view to go with.

Good luck man, good luck.
The Aghast
26-01-2006, 21:56
And yes – we can smell fear. But do not douse yourself in cologne. Generally the female population would sneeze at you more than try and engage you in a conversation.

Fuck – relationships are over rated anyway.

Props to that, too.

Fuck, sister, we rock.

Hope you're paying attention, boys.
Skibereen
26-01-2006, 22:20
Oh god, not more David DeAngelo preaching. There is middle ground. You know, inviting, not begging, without assuming the answer is yes. I would sooner slit my wrists and drown myself in acid than act the way he suggests.
Well, first I suggest you go do that, really I do.
Second who is David Angelo?

Third I wasnt preaching, I am stating a fact---I am more then likely the oldest person posting in this particular thread. I adore women(especially my wife and daughters) I am average looking....Me and my Mine (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/IndioRazaRepublica/sho.jpg) and I have never, ever, met a woman out of my league. I used to be timid, and worried about looking foolish, then a women told me--what is the wrost thing that will happen? You get slapped, maybe beat up, but you did what most ...most men are afraid to do.....and women KNOW that, they know it takes bravery to come up an try, so stick your preaching up azz---any women on this board who prefer a man to weak, and lacking in confidence? Not any good ones.
Whittier---
26-01-2006, 22:22
Vegetarianistica']i happen to like guys with no money, 'cause that means they're in school!!! yayyy!!!
not necessarily. It could mean they are bums.
The Aghast
26-01-2006, 22:40
Well, first I suggest you go do that, really I do.
Second who is David Angelo?

Third I wasnt preaching, I am stating a fact---I am more then likely the oldest person posting in this particular thread. I adore women(especially my wife and daughters) I am average looking....Me and my Mine (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/IndioRazaRepublica/sho.jpg) and I have never, ever, met a woman out of my league. I used to be timid, and worried about looking foolish, then a women told me--what is the wrost thing that will happen? You get slapped, maybe beat up, but you did what most ...most men are afraid to do.....and women KNOW that, they know it takes bravery to come up an try, so stick your preaching up azz---any women on this board who prefer a man to weak, and lacking in confidence? Not any good ones.

OK, I'm gonna try to mediate.

It's a fine line... a fine line... Sometimes persistence and/or confidence is flattering/impressive, and can result in you wetting your pants at the sound of their voice. But sometimes it just makes a man look like a cocky little bastard who needs to stop punching above his weight. Fine line.

Also... pissing competitions. silly. unattractive. Jovial banter... yes.
Maegi
26-01-2006, 22:46
Well, first I suggest you go do that, really I do.
Second who is David Angelo?

Third I wasnt preaching, I am stating a fact---I am more then likely the oldest person posting in this particular thread. I adore women(especially my wife and daughters) I am average looking....Me and my Mine (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/IndioRazaRepublica/sho.jpg) and I have never, ever, met a woman out of my league. I used to be timid, and worried about looking foolish, then a women told me--what is the wrost thing that will happen? You get slapped, maybe beat up, but you did what most ...most men are afraid to do.....and women KNOW that, they know it takes bravery to come up an try, so stick your preaching up azz---any women on this board who prefer a man to weak, and lacking in confidence? Not any good ones.

First, your entire advice sounds exactly like the start of what is suggested at www.doubleyourdating.com
David DeAngelo, the creator of this site, further pushes the idea of not being nice, but being a "funny" jerk. You know, cute insults and whatnot. The idea behind this apparently being that you cannot be a nice person and treat people well without being a complete pushover. I apologize if that's NOT where you were going with it, but so many people are pushing that and it makes me sick.
Teh_pantless_hero
26-01-2006, 22:49
First, your entire advice sounds exactly like the start of what is suggested at www.doubleyourdating.com
David DeAngelo, the creator of this site, further pushes the idea of not being nice, but being a "funny" jerk. You know, cute insults and whatnot. The idea behind this apparently being that you cannot be a nice person and treat people well without being a complete pushover. I apologize if that's NOT where you were going with it, but so many people are pushing that and it makes me sick.
And I do that naturally, but it is because I am inherently a passive-agressive asshole.
Maegi
26-01-2006, 22:50
And I do that naturally, but it is because I am inherently a passive-agressive asshole.

I don't do it, naturally or otherwise; because while I might be a complete psychopath, I'm a nice psychopath ;)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
26-01-2006, 22:54
am i ever serious?

thats for me to know and you to find out.... :eek: :D

Sigh. I give up. First Jenrak, now you - I'll go hang an "out of order" sign on my sarcasm.

I will, however, still happily accept any bribes coming my way. :p



I used to be timid, and worried about looking foolish, then a women told me--what is the wrost thing that will happen? You get slapped, maybe beat up, but you did what most ...most men are afraid to do.....and women KNOW that, they know it takes bravery to come up an try,
Well, this sounds pretty much exactly what I said way upthread (and I'm a girl, so I should know ;) ).
But your first post really came across a lot more aggressive what with the "She already wants you! She's just waiting for you to come and get her."
Fact is, she may not already want him, and she may not be especially tickled by someone using a pick-up line like this:
"So when are just me and you going to go out and spend a little time together, I KNOW you KNOW I like you...quite a bit...so I am going to call you on X, and we are going to do something, ok."
I know I probably wouldn't be, at least not as long as the guy in question is someone I merely had talked to a bit in class. That would sound way too cocky for my taste.

°°Important note:°° Not being too cocky doesn't mean being wimpy.

ETA: Or, as Maegi above would put it: You can be a nice person and treat people well without being a complete pushover.
Briantonnia
26-01-2006, 23:38
Another interesting thread, and nice to see it hasn't flamed (yet).

I have had similar experiences in the past, being a natural introvert and general nerd and brainiac. This doesn't help your chances of meeting women much I can tell you. However, in the past few years I've developed the 'Aw fuck it' attitude patent pending which is basically that I now take the view of what is the worst that can happen? (A seven foot tall boyfriend named Bubba with no sense of humour probably...)

You get rejected. So? Life is full of rejections. But for every door closed, another opens up. Whilst I am still single, I am also still afflicted with the most incurable disease known to man, HOPE. So, like the ads say, Just Do It and talk to her. Don't be an ass. Don't be her friend, she has plenty of them and you don't want to be stuck in that box forever, be a confidant, someone she can talk to about anything, even the things she doesn't tell her friends. Do be YOU. Most important. Never, ever start with a lie. You could start with a crap joke though. Make em laugh and you've won half the battle.

Now go forth and make a fool of yourself more times then you can remember, cause the last time you do will probably be worth the effort.
Eruantalon
27-01-2006, 00:33
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.
I am living proof that this is not true. What exactly is it that is absolutely necessary for a good night that necessitates money?

All right, so in finality, I decide that five days from now, when I see her next. I WILL talk to her. When next I post my addendum to this first thread, I will know her name, I will know where she lives, and I will [know] something..SOMETHING about her. I can not let all the nerds who were like me down. ONE OF US has got to discover love.
I can't understand being really attracted to a girl without knowing her name or having talked to her. I'm 19 and male. Is this abnormal?

Seriously, there's no need to be nervous. Just remember that there is no threat, nothing to be afraid of, and no reason that you should humble yourself to please her (this one will make her more attracted to you - approval-seekers are not hot). The more at ease you are, the more fun you will have. If you're not having fun when you talk to her then there's something wrong.

women are scary because they are yummy... especially the attractive ones. get talking to ugly chicks to build up your confidence.

I won't advise against this outright... but be careful doing this. Make sure that you don't lead on a girl who you aren't attracted to. If they become attracted to you, it is cruel to let them down like that.

On a happier note, you may get to know her and discover that this girl is not "ugly" at all. Who knows, you may have something better than you could ever have had with the forgettable "hottie".

you guys making me laugh a lo. But yeah....I dunno...about that uuh "talking to ugly chicks" thing. See...I already have one. .. "of them"....following me around. yeah....

How old are you, may I ask? Realise that you can be just friends with a woman. If you don't want her as a friend but she likes you... I don't know, maybe just act subservient to her for a while. That's almost sure to diminish attraction.
Eruantalon
27-01-2006, 00:46
I assume you know her,

Just go to and say hey, "So when are just me and you going to go out and spend a little time together, I KNOW you KNOW I like you...quite a bit...so I am going to call you on X, and we are going to do something, ok."
Note the PERIOD not a question mark.
I agree with most of your post; only this part I am not so sure of. I normally avoid saying the phrase "I like you", because it makes her feel too certain, and depending on how big her ego is, she might feel like she owns me. You know what I mean?

I also don't particularly like the conrived phrasing of that line. But maybe that's just because I'm not American!

I know I probably wouldn't be, at least not as long as the guy in question is someone I merely had talked to a bit in class. That would sound way too cocky for my taste.
Yes I defeinitely agree with that, but I read Skib's post imagining that the hypothetical boy and girl have talked a good bit more than just a few words in a class. Asking out someone who you don't know in any meaningful way is stupid IMO. Chances are at that point the attraction is merely physical. You should get to know the girl before you plunge into anything.
Kryozerkia
27-01-2006, 00:50
Well not really. My thesis is this: Women scare me, ergo, I have no women.
--snip--
Yes, women can seem scary.

You know... I think you should be careful.

There are women out there, like me, who may have little experience who know how to manipulate 'little boys' (not that you are necessarily; just a pespective) and the mroe you bend, the less inclined we are to let up.

This comes from being able to pick up on the scent of fear.

This fear is something many of us can feed off, as nothing better than a parasite. It's disgusting really. But, you know, there is an easy way around this, try and picture how you might greet a female relative you're familiar with; you know, that casual tone and word choice, then take it and apply to this girl you like.

You can overcome your fear by simply finding your niche. If you're comfortable with closing your eyes for a moment then approaching her with a mandate in your mind, you can change how you appear.

Or, if you're really worried, try dropping a note as you suavely sashay by her desk, and wink at her. Don't say anything. Let her make the move knowing your stance.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-01-2006, 00:50
Another interesting thread, and nice to see it hasn't flamed (yet).
Well, this one wasn't started with a flame, so that may have something to do with it...
The Doors Corporation
27-01-2006, 00:58
Wow, a lot has been said since I fist started this, I had to go fix my car up (curse the alaskan weather) and now I am back. For anyone still viewing this page (I doubt it pffff) for some basic info on me....www.myspace.com/t3h_pwn3r if you can't read it then:
I am 18, puerto rican, in college, basic likes and dislikes.

I do like her regardless that I do not know her name, because I have heard some of her opinions in my American Government, Biology, and Western Civilization class, as well as had a short conversation with her.

You are all right in that there is nothing wrong with rejection and failure! Just a bit embarass, but one of my hang up is that i HATE I utterly DESPISE embarassment (yes I know I am spelling it wrong). So, uh yeah.
Maegi
27-01-2006, 01:27
But, you know, there is an easy way around this, try and picture how you might greet a female relative you're familiar with; you know, that casual tone and word choice, then take it and apply to this girl you like.


That's really a good suggestion, I think I may use it myself.
AlanSmithee
27-01-2006, 01:30
Women are an interesting subject, in so far they're so damn unpredictable.

~Alan Smithee
Puppet of [Censored]~
Imperial Evil Vertigo
27-01-2006, 02:21
the strange thing is a woman can go out with no money and still have a good time whilst if a man has no money he is guaranteed to have a lonely evening.

I think its the other way around.
Maegi
27-01-2006, 02:48
I think its the other way around.

I think the point of the post was that in general, women can get men to pay for things (my sister brags about going to the bar and not spending a dime on a regular basis) while men generally cannot expect the same sort of treatment.