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Russia plans to mine the Moon

Marrakech II
26-01-2006, 06:00
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm
Jenrak
26-01-2006, 06:02
Great. We haven't used up all the resources and now we're already preparing to screw up the moon.

Humanity should learn to finish their sundae before moving on to the popsicle.
Megaloria
26-01-2006, 06:02
Time to buy stock in lucrative cheese-mining operations!
Novoga
26-01-2006, 06:02
Great. We haven't used up all the resources and now we're already preparing to screw up the moon.

Humanity should learn to finish their sundae before moving on to the popsicle.

How the hell can you screw up the moon?
Megaloria
26-01-2006, 06:03
Great. We haven't used up all the resources and now we're already preparing to screw up the moon.

Humanity should learn to finish their sundae before moving on to the popsicle.

But in this case, eating the desolate, inhospitable popsicle means a longer lease on Mother Sundae.
Hobovillia
26-01-2006, 06:04
What doy ou think about it? Good or bad?
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:05
Let's just try to get back to the moon, and then figure out if we can make some money out of it.
Novoga
26-01-2006, 06:06
Let's just try to get back to the moon, and then figure out if we can make some money out of it.

We can get back to the moon, just a matter of funding. God help it if people have to pay 25 cents extra in taxes to support it.
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:08
We can get back to the moon, just a matter of funding. God help it if people have to pay 25 cents extra in taxes to support it.

Too bad. Really. I'm a pretty small government type of guy, but I would definatly support taxes for manned spaceflight.
Neu Leonstein
26-01-2006, 06:09
How the hell can you screw up the moon?
I suppose you could make it explode somehow...
Novoga
26-01-2006, 06:09
Too bad. Really. I'm a pretty small government type of guy, but I would definatly support taxes for manned spaceflight.

There is also talk of a Space Lottery to help fund it.

Same as the regular lottery but you win a ticket to space instead of money.
Newtsburg
26-01-2006, 06:09
We cannot allow the Russians to mine the moon!!!





They might find the secret moon to earth ballistic missles we've had there since the '60s
Myotisinia
26-01-2006, 06:09
Wonderful. They can't even clean up a mess in their own back yard (Chernyobel), and now they want to mine the moon?

Makes you wonder if the premiere episode of Space: 1999 was prophetic, though.
Marrakech II
26-01-2006, 06:10
Too bad. Really. I'm a pretty small government type of guy, but I would definatly support taxes for manned spaceflight.

Yes I'm a no new taxes person too. I also would support this type of effort for a nominal tax. I think man's future is in space. The space tug concept is a great way to move materials between the moon and mars with unmanned spacecraft.
Novoga
26-01-2006, 06:10
I suppose you could make it explode somehow...

True, but I doubt we would ever attempt to blow up the Moon since without it we are so fucked.

Besides, its leaving us anyways.
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:10
There is also talk of a Space Lottery to help fund it.

Same as the regular lottery but you win a ticket to space instead of money.

Yes. That would be perfect. I think people would really attach to that. I'd love a trip to space.
Neu Leonstein
26-01-2006, 06:11
Too bad. Really. I'm a pretty small government type of guy, but I would definatly support taxes for manned spaceflight.
Here's an idea...don't buy a missile defence system and you can not only build a few moon cities, but also cure Malaria and Hunger on the side.
Marrakech II
26-01-2006, 06:11
There is also talk of a Space Lottery to help fund it.

Same as the regular lottery but you win a ticket to space instead of money.



That is a great idea. A voluntary tax. I would buy tickets for that chance.
Megaloria
26-01-2006, 06:12
Let's just try to get back to the moon, and then figure out if we can make some money out of it.

I know someone who has a plan for the moon.

http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/34tick4.jpg
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:13
Here's an idea...don't buy a missile defence system and you can not only build a few moon cities, but also cure Malaria and Hunger on the side.
Sounds like a fine idea to me.
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:13
I know someone who has a plan for the moon.

http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/34tick4.jpg
I don't get it. :confused:
Marrakech II
26-01-2006, 06:14
a missile defence system

Although who is this really intended for? Same goes with the "Space fighter program"
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/04-25-05/discussion.cgi.9.html
New Rafnaland
26-01-2006, 06:15
NEWSFLASH: Russia Plans to Mine the Moon!

NEWSFLASH: Infant in Rhode Island Plots World Domination!

"Victory is mine!"
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:18
Although who is this really intended for? Same goes with the "Space fighter program"
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/04-25-05/discussion.cgi.9.html
*puts on tinfoil hat*
Megaloria
26-01-2006, 06:19
I don't get it. :confused:

Go watch the Tick cartoon or read the comics. this joke is only for the particulairly enlightened.
Novoga
26-01-2006, 06:22
Although who is this really intended for? Same goes with the "Space fighter program"
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/04-25-05/discussion.cgi.9.html

It would be almost impossible to hide that.
Ukantbeserious
26-01-2006, 06:30
~snip~ Let's just try to get back to the moon
That is assuming ofcourse the Americans did actually land there back in 69:p
The South Islands
26-01-2006, 06:31
That is assuming ofcourse the Americans did actually land there back in 69:p

Oh god. Please don't tell me you're one of those morons that subscribe to that idiotic "Moon Hoax" theory.
Ukantbeserious
26-01-2006, 06:48
Oh god. Please don't tell me you're one of those morons that subscribe to that idiotic "Moon Hoax" theory.
Well, no, but thanks for the name calling.
Delator
26-01-2006, 06:53
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm

GOOD!

Maybe if they succeed, it will encourage this country to get off it's ass regarding spaceflight. There's a lot of money to be made in space, if exploited properly. I'm amazed that concept hasn't seized some of our more capitalistic citizens yet.
Qazox
26-01-2006, 06:55
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm

Darn... now i guess that i'll have to move my Nuclear Missles to Mars and stop spending money on food for the next 5 years.
Posi
26-01-2006, 07:00
Oh god. Please don't tell me you're one of those morons that subscribe to that idiotic "Moon Hoax" theory.
Did anyone see the show on the Discovery Channel were they disprove all the "evidence" the skeptics had?
Lacadaemon
26-01-2006, 07:15
Here's an idea...don't buy a missile defence system and you can not only build a few moon cities, but also cure Malaria and Hunger on the side.

The malaria problem was solved. People didn't like it. I don't see the point of doing it agian.
Kanabia
26-01-2006, 07:31
That's actually pretty cool. Not much more than 100 years ago we learned to fly...wonder where we'll be in another 100.
Newtsburg
26-01-2006, 08:38
The malaria problem was solved. People didn't like it. I don't see the point of doing it agian.

Gin on Tonics? How could people not like Gin and Tonics!?!?!?!?!?
Lacadaemon
26-01-2006, 08:40
Gin on Tonics? How could people not like Gin and Tonics!?!?!?!?!?

I know, but gone are the days you could have seven or eight - the minimum dose - and drive home safe in the knowledge that you had a valid medical excuse.
Gassputia
26-01-2006, 09:52
Wonderful. They can't even clean up a mess in their own back yard (Chernyobel), and now they want to mine the moon?

Makes you wonder if the premiere episode of Space: 1999 was prophetic, though.
evil of you...
Thats like saying that UK is to clean up selafield, and should not do anything else[nothing against the Uk]
Iztatepopotla
26-01-2006, 19:35
Wonderful. They can't even clean up a mess in their own back yard (Chernyobel), and now they want to mine the moon?
Yeah, one wouldn't want them screwing up the moon's delicate ecological balance.
Olantia
26-01-2006, 19:39
Wonderful. They can't even clean up a mess in their own back yard (Chernyobel), and now they want to mine the moon?

...
The idea is quite mad, but Chernobyl is in the Ukraine, not in Russia.
Gassputia
26-01-2006, 19:50
Yeah, one wouldn't want them screwing up the moon's delicate ecological balance.
"The Rock"
Moon rocks have no natura enemies, and spend most of their lifes lying stil, not mooving, and looking as dead aspossible to avoid getting eaten
Marrakech II
27-01-2006, 02:16
Oh god. Please don't tell me you're one of those morons that subscribe to that idiotic "Moon Hoax" theory.


Sounds perfectly logical. :rolleyes: You do still have that tinfoil hat on right?
Marrakech II
27-01-2006, 02:18
Did anyone see the show on the Discovery Channel were they disprove all the "evidence" the skeptics had?


Did they knock em up side the head with a moon rock?;)
Eutrusca
27-01-2006, 02:19
"Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in nuclear fusion.

"Rare on earth but plentiful on the Moon, it is seen by some experts as an ideal fuel because it is powerful, non-polluting and generates almost no radioactive by-product."

Go for it! :)
Marrakech II
27-01-2006, 02:21
"Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in nuclear fusion.

"Rare on earth but plentiful on the Moon, it is seen by some experts as an ideal fuel because it is powerful, non-polluting and generates almost no radioactive by-product."

Go for it! :)

Maybe Russia can sell that to Iran. Would solve the "enriching" problem.
Free Mercantile States
27-01-2006, 02:23
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm

Dammit. Why does it have to be slipping-back-down-the-authoritarian-slope Russia? Why can't the US just privatise NASA, subsidize private space flight, and get on the freaking ball?! Does our government really think that we can continue to matter shit economically or technologically if they feel no particular concern for science/technology and are downright hostile to biotech? [face in hands] Argh.
Eutrusca
27-01-2006, 02:24
Maybe Russia can sell that to Iran. Would solve the "enriching" problem.
Maybe Russia can sell it to ALL of us. Somehow, I think we're gonna need it.
Free Mercantile States
27-01-2006, 02:26
Maybe Russia can sell it to ALL of us. Somehow, I think we're gonna need it.

If Americans, as a people, government, whatever, had any sense, it would be us.
Marrakech II
27-01-2006, 02:26
Maybe Russia can sell it to ALL of us. Somehow, I think we're gonna need it.

Yes then maybe the nuclear energy program in the US of the 70's and early 80's can begin again. Minus the Three Mile island bit.....
Swilatia
27-01-2006, 02:30
wow. I never thought some moon colonization was being planned right now. still, I really think all nations shoyuld get a privately run space program.
Syniks
27-01-2006, 02:40
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm
3 thoughts:

1: Aljazeera? That's reliable. :rolleyes:

2: Russia? They haven't even landed there ONCE yet.

3: About damn time. If the US is too pansy-ass to take the risk any more, I'm glad somebody is. As a Species, the sooner we get off this rock, the better. If the Russians have to lead the way because the US lacks the balls or will, so be it.
Dinaverg
27-01-2006, 02:41
Well, while other people get the moon we'll have the RRL!
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/48c606f7578b6010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
Syniks
27-01-2006, 02:43
Dammit. Why does it have to be slipping-back-down-the-authoritarian-slope Russia? Why can't the US just privatise NASA, subsidize private space flight, and get on the freaking ball?! Does our government really think that we can continue to matter shit economically or technologically if they feel no particular concern for science/technology and are downright hostile to biotech? [face in hands] Argh.
BecauseMedia/Educationis in the hands of anti-intellectuals and people more interested in "saving the planet" than getting off of it.

That and Kennedy royally fucked us by creating NASA and making private space development illegal. :headbang:
Yetiopolis
27-01-2006, 02:43
All I know is that they'd better not mine my property there, at least without paying me first. :cool:
Ritlina
27-01-2006, 02:45
Hmm... Well Then 50 Years In The Future We Will Be Mining Mars For Iron. Space Fighters, Here We Come!
Marrakech II
27-01-2006, 02:48
All I know is that they'd better not mine my property there, at least without paying me first. :cool:


Sounds like a lunar embassy customer. My property is right next to yours... :p
Syniks
27-01-2006, 02:50
The first Power to have sole control of the Moon will have dominion over the Earth. A simple mass-driver powered by H3 Fusion to throw rocks at Earth and they win.

See the collected works of RAH for details.
Utracia
27-01-2006, 02:58
Aljazeera? That's reliable. :rolleyes:

It seems they pulled the story from someone else as the quote states.

It does seem ridiculous though to think that Russia can pull this off, they can barely take care of their country on earth and they think they can fund and build a functioning lunur mine? Ridiculous!
The Jovian Moons
27-01-2006, 03:10
The way I see it, we're going to fight Russian for H3 on the moons or fight Iran for oil on the Earth.
Novoga
27-01-2006, 05:56
The way I see it, we're going to fight Russian for H3 on the moons or fight Iran for oil on the Earth.

When do we fight the Romulans?
Santa Barbara
27-01-2006, 06:05
The first Power to have sole control of the Moon will have dominion over the Earth. A simple mass-driver powered by H3 Fusion to throw rocks at Earth and they win.

See the collected works of RAH for details.

I don't think so. It still falls under the category of MAD. Sure, Russia could throw rocks at us from the Moon. And we could nuke their country from missile subs. Neither side gains anything from this.

The real dominion comes as an economic one.
Neu Leonstein
27-01-2006, 06:05
It does seem ridiculous though to think that Russia can pull this off, they can barely take care of their country on earth and they think they can fund and build a functioning lunur mine? Ridiculous!
Well, they have been doing a lot of space stuff recently, they are working on many projects together with the EU and they've been doing all the work since the space shuttles were grounded.
And they still have this "clipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kliper)" thing going.

They might not have all that much money to spend, but it seems like they have space higher on the priority list than the US does.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?id=13412
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20050816/41162935.html
Dixie Thunder
27-01-2006, 10:38
Well appears that the industrialization of the moon is about to begin. Russians plan on mining H-3. Would be a great idea for non-radioactive fuel which is what they have planned for. Hopefully they clean up after themselves.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/65F240F9-CC80-4677-93D6-EBCACE8E7A45.htm

They probably are looking for new sources of vodka
Newtsburg
27-01-2006, 10:46
They probably are looking for new sources of vodka

To sell to niave Americans?

Authentic Russian Moon Vodka--distilled in zero gravity for an out of this world taste!
Kanabia
27-01-2006, 10:53
"Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in nuclear fusion.

"Rare on earth but plentiful on the Moon, it is seen by some experts as an ideal fuel because it is powerful, non-polluting and generates almost no radioactive by-product."

Go for it! :)

Hmm, it was my understanding though that it's only theoretically abundant on the moon (being deposited on the surface by the solar wind). They (scientists) aren't actually sure how much there is or if it's economically viable.
Dixie Thunder
27-01-2006, 10:54
To sell to niave Americans?

Authentic Russian Moon Vodka--distilled in zero gravity for an out of this world taste!
What a hell of a marketing campain! Are you in advertising? :p
Newtsburg
27-01-2006, 11:01
What a hell of a marketing campain! Are you in advertising? :p

Nope, psychology. Think I should change majors?
Dixie Thunder
27-01-2006, 11:11
Nope, psychology. Think I should change majors?
Why not???