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Miami-Dade officer shoots man in groin during traffic stop

News partner NBC 6
Posted January 24 2006, 4:00 PM EST


MIAMI -- An investigation is under way after a Miami-Dade officer shot a man in the groin during a traffic stop Tuesday morning, news partner NBC 6 reported.

According to a police news release, officers were working with the Miami-Dade Police Department Robbery Interdiction Team in the area of Northwest 12th Street and Second Avenue when they witnessed what they believed to be a firearm given by a male on the street to the driver of a Nissan Altima.

The officers stopped the vehicle and asked the men inside to keep their hands in sight.

Police said the driver co-operated and kept his hands raised, but the passenger fumbled with something under the seat and then produced a shiny object they believed was a gun.

"The passenger kept making several attempts underneath the seat, kept refusing the officers' request," said Joey Giordano, of Miami-Dade police. "The officer saw him pull something out and the officer fired one shot, striking him in the groin."

The passenger, described as a Hispanic man in his 50s, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in stable condition.



If i'm ever in miami i'll be sure never to do anything to get pulled over. or even mess with the cops in general. one shot to the groin. remarkable accuracy.

Just visit the other thread with the Chris Rock video before you go. Remember, if the cops pull you over, Shut the Fuck up! :D

Just visit the other thread with the Chris Rock video before you go. Remember, if the cops pull you over, Shut the Fuck up! :D

best. chris rock show. ever.

if the cops pull you over

1. stay in the car
2. turn that shit off
3. shut the fuck up
4. always bring a white dude with you
5. never drive with an angry woman in the car

i think im forgetting one.

(Bad Pacino in Scarface Accent): Say goodbye to his little friend!

Maybe the cop was jealous. :D

Maybe the cop was jealous. :D

Well, that would explain the disproportionately high instances of cops shooting black guys.

I'm sorry, that was terribly wrong.

Well, that would explain the disproportionately high instances of cops shooting black guys.

I'm sorry, that was terribly wrong.


lol that would explain part of it.

If i'm ever in miami i'll be sure never to do anything to get pulled over. or even mess with the cops in general. one shot to the groin. remarkable accuracy.

the jerkoff cop should get shot in the nad's..only fair


can you tell i aint a fan of cops...and i was one.
fuckin bullies mostly,some good ones...but...mostly,or should i list the b.s. from my home..the philly highway patrol planting drugs,and worse?:mp5:

Well, that would explain the disproportionately high instances of cops shooting black guys.

I'm sorry, that was terribly wrong.

or terribly correct!

OMG. I just had a brilliant idea. Bulletproof underpants. A few more 'incidents' and they'll sell like hotcakes.

the jerkoff cop should get shot in the nad's..only fair


can you tell i aint a fan of cops...and i was one.
fuckin bullies mostly,some good ones...but...mostly,or should i list the b.s. from my home..the philly highway patrol planting drugs,and worse?:mp5:

im from philly and i used to hear all kind of stories of cops planting stuff. philly police force is corrput, but not as much as nypd. wow.

Well, that would explain the disproportionately high instances of cops shooting black guys.

I'm sorry, that was terribly wrong.
Wrong but yet.. Hehehehe.. So right.

Here's how I avoid cop related incidents:

1) Produce my passport and explain I'm not black. Pointing to the section reading "Race Group".
2) Discreetly begin recording with your mobile phone
3) Hide your oregano and rosemary

best. chris rock show. ever.

if the cops pull you over

1. stay in the car
2. turn that shit off
3. shut the fuck up
4. always bring a white dude with you
5. never drive with an angry woman in the car

i think im forgetting one.

something about not bringing guns and stuff as well, if I remember correctly.
But yeah, great clip :D

best. chris rock show. ever.

if the cops pull you over

1. stay in the car
2. turn that shit off
3. shut the fuck up
4. always bring a white dude with you
5. never drive with an angry woman in the car

i think im forgetting one.
Yeah, the most important rule: BE POLITE!

Yeah, the most important rule: BE POLITE!
Do you happen to polise?

Admit it: Some of you thought of me when you read this.

:mad:

Admit it: Some of you thought of me when you read this.
I didn't! :D

They don't mention where in the groin though. It is highly important.


Groin muscle?
Testicle?
Wang?
Straight through the pubes at the top?

where?

Sorry...

If the police have a reason to believe that you have a gun (which they most certainly did in this case), and you move your hands to your waist, you're going to get shot.

It only takes a second from the time your hands go to your waist and out of sight to the time the policeman may be shot, so they're ready for this.

Hands tell the story.

Additionally, the policeman is standing up and the driver is sitting. They're going to be firing down at an angle to the center of mass, and your groin is roughly where the gun is pointing.

Sorry...

If the police have a reason to believe that you have a gun (which they most certainly did in this case), and you move your hands to your waist, you're going to get shot.

It only takes a second from the time your hands go to your waist and out of sight to the time the policeman may be shot, so they're ready for this.

Hands tell the story.

Additionally, the policeman is standing up and the driver is sitting. They're going to be firing down at an angle to the center of mass, and your groin is roughly where the gun is pointing.
Of course, that's why my "Car Carry" position is "Tanker Style" in a 5.11 Tactical Series jacket/vest. Muzzle is already level with the drivers-side door.

But then, I also carry my DL & Permit in the Right-side breast pocket so the Cop has full view of my hands from the minute they leave the steering wheel (only on his request).

It's too easy to hide lethal shit below the window for a cop to take chances.

the jerkoff cop should get shot in the nad's..only fair


can you tell i aint a fan of cops...and i was one.
fuckin bullies mostly,some good ones...but...mostly,or should i list the b.s. from my home..the philly highway patrol planting drugs,and worse?:mp5:
Dude, the guy was reaching under his seat during a traffic stop. Everybody should know that's a great way to get shot. When stopped by the police it's just common sense to keep your hands where the cop can see them.

Dude, the guy was reaching under his seat during a traffic stop. Everybody should know that's a great way to get shot. When stopped by the police it's just common sense to keep your hands where the cop can see them.
I'm not even a cop, and I carry concealed.

If I view the situation as an altercation, and I have reason to believe you're armed (let's say I've seen either a knife sheath or pistol holster, or the butt of a gun), if your hands move wrong, I'm going to shoot without warning.

I'm not even a cop, and I carry concealed.

If I view the situation as an altercation, and I have reason to believe you're armed (let's say I've seen either a knife sheath or pistol holster, or the butt of a gun), if your hands move wrong, I'm going to shoot without warning.
Yep. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I just don't understand how anyone could be so stupid as to reach under his seat during a traffic stop. It's basically asking to be shot. Every time I've been pulled over and had a weapon (knives) in my possesion I've made sure to tell the cop and let him take and hold the weapon for the duration of the stop. I certainly don't go reaching for it.

Yep. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I just don't understand how anyone could be so stupid as to reach under his seat during a traffic stop. It's basically asking to be shot. Every time I've been pulled over and had a weapon (knives) in my possesion I've made sure to tell the cop and let him take and hold the weapon for the duration of the stop. I certainly don't go reaching for it.

Advice I got from a cop (and a few felons) over the years.

Stop the car, pull over with plenty of room for the cop on driver's side if possible.

Turn off the car. Turn on flashers.

Turn on interior light.

Roll down your window.

Place keys on the roof, along with license and registration (weather permitting). Otherwise, put on dashboard.

Place both hands on the wheel and don't move unless told to.

I've had positive experiences as a result.

Yep. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I just don't understand how anyone could be so stupid as to reach under his seat during a traffic stop. It's basically asking to be shot. Every time I've been pulled over and had a weapon (knives) in my possesion I've made sure to tell the cop and let him take and hold the weapon for the duration of the stop. I certainly don't go reaching for it.
That and have an up-to-date FOP Benevolent Fund sticker prominantly posted on your window. :p

Cop gets BOTH of my licenses before I wiggle in my seat. Makes life much easier.

(not that I have ever gotten stopped... my dues are paid in full. ;) )

Yeah, the most important rule: BE POLITE!


that falls under the "shut the fuck up" rule.

They don't mention where in the groin though. It is highly important.


Groin muscle?
Testicle?
Wang?
Straight through the pubes at the top?

where?

if they don't mention it, it's normally because its #2 and #3 on your list.

if they don't mention it, it's normally because its #2 and #3 on your list.

*winces*

And there's always the possibility it might have kept going and come out the other end.

I just thought i'd share that one.

I'm not even a cop, and I carry concealed.

If I view the situation as an altercation, and I have reason to believe you're armed (let's say I've seen either a knife sheath or pistol holster, or the butt of a gun), if your hands move wrong, I'm going to shoot without warning.


note to self: don't try knive and gun juggling act around kimchi.

note to self: don't try knive and gun juggling act around kimchi.

What about beer bottles or bricks?

note to self: don't try knive and gun juggling act around kimchi.
Context, my friend.

If you tell me you're going to kill me, or I have reason to believe you're going to do violence to me, it's dangerous to do something stupid.

But, if we're at a party, and I know you, you can juggle knives all night long.

Just make sure you don't juggle guns - not because I'm afraid I'll be hurt - I'm afraid that you'll cause an accident.

best. chris rock show. ever.

if the cops pull you over

1. stay in the car
2. turn that shit off
3. shut the fuck up
4. always bring a white dude with you
5. never drive with an angry woman in the car

i think im forgetting one.
http://www.wimp.com/asskicked/ :D

http://www.wimp.com/asskicked/ :D


"cause everybody knows, if the police have to come get you, they're bringing an asskickin with them"

Yep. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I just don't understand how anyone could be so stupid as to reach under his seat during a traffic stop. It's basically asking to be shot. Every time I've been pulled over and had a weapon (knives) in my possesion I've made sure to tell the cop and let him take and hold the weapon for the duration of the stop. I certainly don't go reaching for it.
In North Carolina, one of the things they emphasize in the mandated course you take before being granted a concealed carry permit is that you tell any officer who stops you that you are carrying. I have had that happen twice and both times the officer asked to see my concealed carry permit and also asked to see the weapon. Both of them liked my Sturm/Ruger 9mm. :D

"cause everybody knows, if the police have to come get you, they're bringing an asskickin with them"
hehehe! Is that not hilarious! :D

Not that I mean to beat a dead horse, but then, why would the horse care?

But...

As previously mentioned, it seems to me that the man who was pulled over was pretty much asking to be shot. He's lucky he's still alive.

Not that I mean to beat a dead horse, but then, why would the horse care?

But...

As previously mentioned, it seems to me that the man who was pulled over was pretty much asking to be shot. He's lucky he's still alive.


he is alive, but only half the man he used to be

he is alive, but only half the man he used to be

Beats the snot out of no longer being a man, period, ne?

Beats the snot out of no longer being a man, period, ne?


true.

i wonder if he'll try to sue. It would be an amusing court case.

true.

i wonder if he'll try to sue. It would be an amusing court case.

Yeah... getting to watch the Prosecution and Defense argue over whether or not images of the groin before and after the shooting (and before and after the surgery) would be allowed.... Something tells me that CSPAN might actually be interesting for a few moments....

best. chris rock show. ever.

if the cops pull you over

1. stay in the car
2. turn that shit off
3. shut the fuck up
4. always bring a white dude with you
5. never drive with an angry woman in the car

i think im forgetting one.

6. End every sentence out of your mouth with the words "sir" or "ma'am", as applicable.

(Guess that was covered under "be polite". Thanks for the link, Eut, for those of us who do not have HBO.)

Yeah... getting to watch the Prosecution and Defense argue over whether or not images of the groin before and after the shooting (and before and after the surgery) would be allowed.... Something tells me that CSPAN might actually be interesting for a few moments....


LMAO

"If the dick gets hit, you must accquit"

What about beer bottles or bricks?

knives, beer bottles and bricks I can juggle.

To be honest, I've never tried to juggle loaded guns. I don't know if it's because even I am not THAT crazy, or if I just never had the opportunity. :p

knives, beer bottles and bricks I can juggle.

To be honest, I've never tried to juggle loaded guns. I don't know if it's because even I am not THAT crazy, or if I just never had the opportunity. :p


i think it's the oppoirtunity. because wouldn't juggling live weapons be great.
i may try juggling lit dynamite

knives, beer bottles and bricks I can juggle.
Oh yeah? I may not be able to juggle, but I can do crazy stuff with an M-1 garand.

Oh yeah? I may not be able to juggle, but I can do crazy stuff with an M-1 garand.
Does Exhibition D&C count? I used to throw around M1903A3 rifles with fixed bayonets...

Nothing more impressive than throwing 13lb rifles with sharp, shiny bayonets 10 or 15 feet... while simultaneously marching and expecting to catch the rifle being flung at you. :eek:

Does Exhibition D&C count? I used to throw around M1903A3 rifles with fixed bayonets...

Nothing more impressive than throwing 13lb rifles with sharp, shiny bayonets 10 or 15 feet... while simultaneously marching and expecting to catch the rifle being flung at you. :eek:

Sounds like an activity with a sharp learning curve.

Pun intended. :)

Does Exhibition D&C count? I used to throw around M1903A3 rifles with fixed bayonets...

Nothing more impressive than throwing 13lb rifles with sharp, shiny bayonets 10 or 15 feet... while simultaneously marching and expecting to catch the rifle being flung at you. :eek:
Thats exactly what I was talking about, although cause we're still learning, we don't get to play with the bayonets

Sounds like an activity with a sharp learning curve.

Pun intended. :)
Back in the day... oh about 1985 or so... I was in a competition down in Vegas? where we were competing against, among others, New Mexico Military Institute.

Their Commander (doing Saber work) caught a blade from a 4-way exchange arms (square of death). Opened him up about 1/4" deep along his left side from his hip to just below the armpit. Didn't drop the saber. He finished the (forshortened) routine and marched his troops off the feild before passing out.

Rock Hard that kid. :eek:

Advice I got from a cop (and a few felons) over the years.

Stop the car, pull over with plenty of room for the cop on driver's side if possible.

Turn off the car. Turn on flashers.

Turn on interior light.

Roll down your window.

Place keys on the roof, along with license and registration (weather permitting). Otherwise, put on dashboard.

Place both hands on the wheel and don't move unless told to.

I've had positive experiences as a result.
Well frankly, Australian cops are less prone to being triiger-happy. Possibly because few -if any- people carry guns around here.

Well frankly, Australian cops are less prone to being triiger-happy. Possibly because few -if any- people carry guns around here.
And 99% of people in the US don't carry guns either.

Of the 1% that do 99% of those aren't about to shoot a cop. Then again, they aren't as likely to get pulled over for violating other laws either....

Of the 1% of 1% who ARE likely to shoot a cop when stopped, it wouldn't matter which country they are in - they (violently) don't want to be stopped.

And 99% of people in the US don't carry guns either.

Of the 1% that do 99% of those aren't about to shoot a cop. Then again, they aren't as likely to get pulled over for violating other laws either....

Of the 1% of 1% who ARE likely to shoot a cop when stopped, it wouldn't matter which country they are in - they (violently) don't want to be stopped.
1.71 people were killed as a result of a gun related crime (eg suicide, homicide) in 2001, per 100,000 people[1]. Against the 16.4 per 100,000 in the United States[2].

Australia has some of the world's strictest gun control laws. America has some of the world's most liberal gun control laws.

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[1] Commonwealth Bureau of Crime Statistics.
[2] Centres for Disease Control.