NationStates Jolt Archive


Conservative Minority!

Corneliu
24-01-2006, 15:26
Just as I predicted when this whole thing occured, the Conservative Party has defeated the Liberal Party and is now in position to form a minority government in Canada.

I would like to extend my congratulations to Stephen Harper for winning and to Paul Martin for running an aggressive campaign.

Conservative Party: 124 = 36%
Liberal Party: 103 seats = 30%
Bloc Quebecois: 51 seats = 10.5%
New Democrat Party: 29 seats = 17%
Independent: 1 seat

However, this is 31 seats short of a majority. That means Stephen Harper needs to form a minority government.

Congratulations Canada.
Deep Kimchi
24-01-2006, 15:27
Wasn't hard to predict if you were reading the news in Canada.
Corneliu
24-01-2006, 15:28
Wasn't hard to predict if you were reading the news in Canada.

Not just in Canada either. Even I predicted this after their last election that they have held.
Reformists
24-01-2006, 15:32
Pretty much everyone knew they'd win, so i extend my congratulations to you for 'your' prediction.
Eruantalon
24-01-2006, 22:56
This is good news, not because I have fantasies about the global Conservative empire like Corneliu, but rather because of Liberal corruption. It's better, in general, that parties don't stay in power too long.
Utracia
24-01-2006, 22:59
Meh. It's only Canada.
Zilam
24-01-2006, 23:31
Meh. It's only Canada.


my point exactly, eh?
The Black Forrest
24-01-2006, 23:41
This is good news, not because I have fantasies about the global Conservative empire like Corneliu, but rather because of Liberal corruption. It's better, in general, that parties don't stay in power too long.

Oh come on now. You know if it were Conservative Corruption, it would be liberal persuction and bias in the media at work! ;)
Sdaeriji
24-01-2006, 23:45
Oh come on now. You know if it were Conservative Corruption, it would be liberal persuction and bias in the media at work! ;)

He is right, though. One power in time for too long is a bad thing.
The Nazz
24-01-2006, 23:45
This is good news, not because I have fantasies about the global Conservative empire like Corneliu, but rather because of Liberal corruption. It's better, in general, that parties don't stay in power too long.
Too true.
Corneliu
25-01-2006, 01:31
This is good news, not because I have fantasies about the global Conservative empire like Corneliu, but rather because of Liberal corruption. It's better, in general, that parties don't stay in power too long.

I don't want a conservative empire. I just wanted the liberals out of there.
Sel Appa
25-01-2006, 01:58
Bloc Quebecois: 51 seats = 17%
I wonder who they vote with? lol

'tis a sad day for Canada...oh well
Keruvalia
25-01-2006, 02:07
Meh ... just like the US election of 2004, no clear mandate.

So who cares? Politics as usual.


I don't want a conservative empire. I just wanted the liberals out of there.

Never gonna happen
Norgopia
25-01-2006, 02:11
The sad thing is that American elections affect Canada more than our own.
Equus
25-01-2006, 18:01
Just as I predicted when this whole thing occured, the Conservative Party has defeated the Liberal Party and is now in position to form a minority government in Canada.

I would like to extend my congratulations to Stephen Harper for winning and to Paul Martin for running an aggressive campaign.

Conservative Party: 124 = 36%
Liberal Party: 103 seats = 30%
Bloc Quebecois: 51 seats = 17%
New Democrat Party: 29 seats = 10%
Independent: 1 seat

However, this is 31 seats short of a majority. That means Stephen Harper needs to form a majority government.

Congratulations Canada.
Actually Corneliu, you don't have the popular support numbers right. The Bloc Quebecois only has 10.5% of popular support across Canada, but because their support is centered in Quebec, they gain lots of seats. The New Democratic party has 17.5% popular support across Canada, but because their support is spread across the entire country, they end up with less seats.

You've accidentally swapped the popular support percentages for the NDP and the Bloc - probably because you assumed that more seats automatically meant that a party had more popular support.
Fass
25-01-2006, 18:06
That means Stephen Harper needs to form a majority government.

He doesn't need to do that, and he probably won't. A majority government is only possible thourgh a coalition government with a majority in parliament. That is unlikely in this case. He will probably lead a minority government.
Silliopolous
25-01-2006, 18:15
He doesn't need to do that, and he probably won't. A majority government is only possible thourgh a coalition government with a majority in parliament. That is unlikely in this case. He will probably lead a minority government.


Canada does not have a history of forming firm coalitions, although the CCF/NDP and Liberals DID work fairly well together during minority situations during Pearson's tenure as PM. At best you may find a party more LIKELY to back you over successive legislative efforts, but in this case Harper will have difficulty with finding a regular partner for that. A coalition in the sense that you mean though is more than unlikely in ANY circumstance in Canada.

The Bloc will support him on issues relating to decentralizing power, but all three parties are to his left on most social issues. And Canada has become rather fond of our balanced budgets, so any fiscal decisions will need to maintain that status quo as well lest he wants do divest himself of any platform pertaining to having fiscal sense. This will temper his ability to institute any other grand schemes he might have regarding program spending OR changes to tax structures.

So he is effectively pretty hamstrung as far as furthing much of his agenda beyond party finance reform, power-sharing with the provinces, and some adjustment of program spending and priorities within certain limits.
Kryozerkia
25-01-2006, 18:42
And we'll be back at the polls again before 2 years time.
Equus
25-01-2006, 18:47
Actually, I'm wondering how far the Bloc will actually support the CPC on decentralization issues. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but now that the CPC has suddenly regained popularity in Quebec, the Bloc lost seats AND saw its popular vote fall. Given that the Bloc's ultimate goal is sovereignty, are they really going to want the CPC to successfully renegotiate Quebec's place in Canada?

I think that now that the CPC are a threat to the Bloc's popularity and long-term goals, they have become the new federalist enemy. I think Gomery and corruption are about to fade from the Quebec media, to be replaced with warnings about the Conservative "social-conservative agenda". I think the Bloc need to be viewed as protecting Quebec's rights without letting the CPC government actually succeed in Quebec. Which means a lot of talk about 'fiscal disparity' - and the Bloc not approving anything from the CPC unless they cough up some big price tags for the province. They will act tough and demonize the CPC instead of working with them in the House (using fiscal disparity as an excuse, knowing that the the Conservative base in the west will not countenance lots of extra goodies going to Quebec OR federal budget deficits), in hopes of pushing their popularity back up. There is a provincial election coming up, after all, and the Parti Quebecois needs to win it if they want to hold another referendum on separation.
The Black Forrest
25-01-2006, 19:06
I don't want a conservative empire. I just wanted the liberals out of there.


-Blinks- ok no liberals isn't a conservative empire?

Am I missing something here?
Corneliu
25-01-2006, 19:08
Actually Corneliu, you don't have the popular support numbers right. The Bloc Quebecois only has 10.5% of popular support across Canada, but because their support is centered in Quebec, they gain lots of seats. The New Democratic party has 17.5% popular support across Canada, but because their support is spread across the entire country, they end up with less seats.

You've accidentally swapped the popular support percentages for the NDP and the Bloc - probably because you assumed that more seats automatically meant that a party had more popular support.

Thanks for the correction. I didn't even noticed that. I'll go and correct it :)
Silliopolous
25-01-2006, 19:23
Actually, I'm wondering how far the Bloc will actually support the CPC on decentralization issues. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but now that the CPC has suddenly regained popularity in Quebec, the Bloc lost seats AND saw its popular vote fall. Given that the Bloc's ultimate goal is sovereignty, are they really going to want the CPC to successfully renegotiate Quebec's place in Canada?

I think that now that the CPC are a threat to the Bloc's popularity and long-term goals, they have become the new federalist enemy. I think Gomery and corruption are about to fade from the Quebec media, to be replaced with warnings about the Conservative "social-conservative agenda". I think the Bloc need to be viewed as protecting Quebec's rights without letting the CPC government actually succeed in Quebec. Which means a lot of talk about 'fiscal disparity' - and the Bloc not approving anything from the CPC unless they cough up some big price tags for the province. They will act tough and demonize the CPC instead of working with them in the House (using fiscal disparity as an excuse, knowing that the the Conservative base in the west will not countenance lots of extra goodies going to Quebec OR federal budget deficits), in hopes of pushing their popularity back up. There is a provincial election coming up, after all, and the Parti Quebecois needs to win it if they want to hold another referendum on separation.

I imagine that the 40% showing of the bloc during this cycle gave the Sovereigntists something to chew about. Their mindset was that bloc support equated to support on that single issue and woke up to discover that it might have been, for some, just a safe way to avoid endorsing either of the Federal parties on certain issues.

No, I think that any sense of momentum they had took a pretty hard hit on Monday. Because when push came to shove many people voted with a federal mindset instead of a regional one.

Whether they take that out on the CPC or just redouble their efforts to push their agenda I don't know. But it was certainly a wake-up call for them and might just have forestalled any referendum thoughts for at least one more provincial electoral cycle.
East Canuck
25-01-2006, 19:41
Meh. It's only Canada.
And, pray tell, what is THAT supposed to mean?
Equus
25-01-2006, 20:19
I imagine that the 40% showing of the bloc during this cycle gave the Sovereigntists something to chew about. Their mindset was that bloc support equated to support on that single issue and woke up to discover that it might have been, for some, just a safe way to avoid endorsing either of the Federal parties on certain issues.

No, I think that any sense of momentum they had took a pretty hard hit on Monday. Because when push came to shove many people voted with a federal mindset instead of a regional one.

Whether they take that out on the CPC or just redouble their efforts to push their agenda I don't know. But it was certainly a wake-up call for them and might just have forestalled any referendum thoughts for at least one more provincial electoral cycle.Well, I for one would be happy if there was no referendum called over the next four years. But I'd be happier still if there was no referendum and no further decentralization of powers.

But then again, I don't live in Quebec. But I do recognize that Quebec needs to find peace one way or another. I sometimes think it must be terrible to have the fate of the country resting on your shoulders all the time.
The Nazz
25-01-2006, 20:28
-Blinks- ok no liberals isn't a conservative empire?

Am I missing something here?
Welcome to Corny-land, where the official sport is Calvinball. :D
Canada6
25-01-2006, 20:33
And we'll be back at the polls again before 2 years time.
I'm giving this current government two years tops.
Equus
25-01-2006, 20:57
I'm giving this current government two years tops.Yup. It'll fall shortly after the Liberals feel they have their political act together.
Megaloria
25-01-2006, 21:20
Yup. It'll fall shortly after the Liberals feel they have their political act together.

Bring on the McKenna.
Equus
25-01-2006, 21:26
Bring on the McKenna.Yeah, he's my bet too.

Although someone mentioned Dryden the other day. I was surprised by that. I had initially thought McKenna, Ignatieff, Manley, or Tobin, with odds on McKenna.
Willamena
25-01-2006, 22:13
-Blinks- ok no liberals isn't a conservative empire?

Am I missing something here?
He just mean that he did not want the liberals to form the government. They can still be present in the House.
Eruantalon
25-01-2006, 23:35
I don't want a conservative empire. I just wanted the liberals out of there.
Yeah sure. I've seen your other posts on here. You're a standard issue right-wing ideologue. It's natureal that you want your ideology to be verified by the governments of neighbouring countries.

The Bloc will support him on issues relating to decentralizing power, but all three parties are to his left on most social issues. And Canada has become rather fond of our balanced budgets, so any fiscal decisions will need to maintain that status quo as well lest he wants do divest himself of any platform pertaining to having fiscal sense.
It's bizarre that the Conservative Party needs to be warned about balancing the budget more than the more left-wing parties.
Corneliu
26-01-2006, 13:11
He just mean that he did not want the liberals to form the government. They can still be present in the House.

Thank you Willamena. I guess logic is lost on certain people.
Corneliu
26-01-2006, 13:12
Yeah sure. I've seen your other posts on here. You're a standard issue right-wing ideologue. It's natureal that you want your ideology to be verified by the governments of neighbouring countries.

Even though I look to see what dems are running, what they stand for, and to see if I should vote for them? Unlike most people on this board, I actually look into people's records.
Canada6
26-01-2006, 19:03
In that case did you look into Jee-dubya's cocaine sniffing and jack daniels snorklin' and spoken english and public speaking disgracing, connection with neoconservative record before voting for him?
The Black Forrest
26-01-2006, 20:58
Thank you Willamena. I guess logic is lost on certain people.

Awww how cute the con tosses out insults.....
Stephistan
26-01-2006, 21:22
It's bizarre that the Conservative Party needs to be warned about balancing the budget more than the more left-wing parties.

Well, lets keep this in perspective. In Canada we basically have 3 federal parties (not including the Bloc as they're not a federal party)

1) Conservatives - right wing

2) Liberals - despite their name are a very centrist party.

3) NDP - which is our leftist federal party.

The Liberals in years past were quite liberal.. but over the years have really come to the center in Canadian politics. So to call them a "leftist" party would be untrue.
The Black Forrest
26-01-2006, 21:35
Well, lets keep this in perspective. In Canada we basically have 3 federal parties (not including the Bloc as they're not a federal party)

1) Conservatives - right wing

2) Liberals - despite their name are a very centrist party.

3) NDP - which is our leftist federal party.

The Liberals in years past were quite liberal.. but over the years have really come to the center in Canadian politics. So to call them a "leftist" party would be untrue.

What are you saying? The American definition of liberal and conservative aren't the same the world over?!?!?!? :eek:

;)

Hey Steph!
Utracia
26-01-2006, 21:55
And, pray tell, what is THAT supposed to mean?

Who cares what happens in Canada other than Canadians? The Palestinians electing Hamas is much bigger news.
Corneliu
26-01-2006, 22:12
Who cares what happens in Canada other than Canadians? The Palestinians electing Hamas is much bigger news.

100% accurate.
Marine Devil Dog
26-01-2006, 22:15
Broke my arm, sorry for late reply, screw the conservatives!
Eruantalon
26-01-2006, 23:00
Even though I look to see what dems are running, what they stand for, and to see if I should vote for them? Unlike most people on this board, I actually look into people's records.
I don't believe you. I've never seen you say anything good about any politician who is not a Republican, and in most threads you practically breath fire on non-Republicans.

When you claim to consider both sides equally, but then consistently choose one side every time, the claim begins to ring hollow.
Corneliu
26-01-2006, 23:05
I don't believe you. I've never seen you say anything good about any politician who is not a Republican, and in most threads you practically breath fire on non-Republicans.

When you claim to consider both sides equally, but then consistently choose one side every time, the claim begins to ring hollow.

And I have never seen many people (short of conservatives) who don't say anything nice about republicans and those that support them.

The tide flows both ways. However, I go after the Democratic Leadership in most of my attacks.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 00:54
100% accurate.

Gee Corneliu and here I thought you were taking poli-sci?

If so, then you would know what is happening in Canada is far more important than Israel, at least as far as your economy goes.. I mean we're the world's largest trading partners, we supply you with more oil then the House of Saud. In 5 years Canada will have more oil than anyone on earth.

It's very nice (in a pat on the back kind of way) that you feel so strongly about a middle east situation that amounts to an American "pet project" You trade next to nothing with Israel, in fact you give them billions of dollars a year in aid. Haha, but you just keep thinking what's going on in Israel is more important than what is going on in Canada.

Taking poli-sci my ass you are! :rolleyes:
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:09
Gee Corneliu and here I thought you were taking poli-sci?

HELLO!!!!! Hamas does have political contations. HELLO!!! They just upset the Fatah Party. HELLO!!!!! This has major implications in the middle East. Any of this sinking in yet?

If so, then you would know what is happening in Canada is far more important than Israel, at least as far as your economy goes.. I mean we're the world's largest trading partners, we supply you with more oil then the House of Saud. In 5 years Canada will have more oil than anyone on earth.

WRONG!!! What is going on in the Palestinian Authority is far more important than what is going on in Canada.

It's very nice (in a pat on the back kind of way) that you feel so strongly about a middle east situation that amounts to an American "pet project" You trade next to nothing with Israel, in fact you give them billions of dollars a year in aid. Haha, but you just keep thinking what's going on in Israel is more important than what is going on in Canada.

Considering what is going on in the Middle East, this far more important than what is going on with Canada. Maybe if you actually get your head out of your Canadian Butt and actually look around for once, you might see that the world does not revolve around Canada.

Taking poli-sci my ass you are! :rolleyes:

If I were you, I'd give up my poli sci degree becuase it is apparent that you haven't learned a thing about it.
Utracia
27-01-2006, 01:27
HELLO!!!!! Hamas does have political contations. HELLO!!! They just upset the Fatah Party. HELLO!!!!! This has major implications in the middle East. Any of this sinking in yet?

What is going on in the Palestinian Authority is far more important than what is going on in Canada.

It's hard to believe that this needs to be spelled out isn't it? :rolleyes:
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:27
WRONG!!! What is going on in the Palestinian Authority is far more important than what is going on in Canada.

Corneliu, don't give up your day job.. I hear garbage men make not a bad living. Seriously.. don't go into politics, do your country a favour.

I suppose I could ask you some very basic questions and see how long it takes you to respond to them (meaning if you didn't respond right away I'd know once and for all you're lying about taking poli-sci.. if it took you a while to respond I would know you were looking it up on the net..lol)
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:30
It's hard to believe that this needs to be spelled out isn't it? :rolleyes:

Darn Straight.

I expected better from Stephistan. Apparently she believes the world revolves around Canada.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:33
Corneliu, don't give up your day job.. I hear garbage men make not a bad living. Seriously.. don't go into politics, do your country a favour.

Steph,

In all my time in knowing you, you have shown nothing but contempt for the rest of the world. The Biggest NEWS STORY in regards to politics and your saying that Canada is more important than what is going on in Palestine? I'm sorry but I'm glad I do not have your mentality. Even my JOURNALISM PROFESSOR stated this has far reaching consequences especially for Peace in the Middle East.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

I suppose I could ask you some very basic questions and see how long it takes you to respond to them (meaning if you didn't respond right away I'd know once and for all you're lying about taking poli-sci.. if it took you a while to respond I would know you were looking it up on the net..lol)

So because I won't answer them right away I'm lying about studying Political Science?

GET A LIFE!
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:33
Darn Straight.

I expected better from Stephistan. Apparently she believes the world revolves around Canada.

No, the world revolves around the USA doesn't it? And if so, than what happens in Canada is far more important to American interests than what Hamas does. Given Hamas only beef is with Israel and has never posed a threat to America.. but all you lil neo-cons are so brainwashed you can't see the woods for the trees.
Bobs Own Pipe
27-01-2006, 01:33
The sad thing is that American elections affect Canada more than our own.
No, they really don't. Actually.

Methinks you need rethinks your statement. Somewhat.
Undelia
27-01-2006, 01:34
Democracy fails again.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:34
No, the world revolves around the USA doesn't it? And if so, than what happens in Canada is far more important to American interests than what Hamas does. Given Hamas only beef is with Israel and has never posed a threat to America.. but all you lil neo-cons are so brainwashed you can't see the woods for the trees.

No, the world doesn't revolve around the United States so what happens in canada is not as important as the biggest news story in this very young year.
Maelog
27-01-2006, 01:38
The world does revolve around the United States, but it's hardly surprising considering that it is the only current superpower. In the past the world revolved around Britain, Spain and Turkey, and in the future it will revolve around the Delhi-Beijing axis.

Sadly I can't see Canada ever being the centre of the universe.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:38
I'm lying about studying Political Science?

Actually as someone who holds a Masters degree in poli-sci, I already knew you were lying. So no need to answer anything.

Now, as far as journalism goes, yes, of course it's a bigger story, but now you're talking apples and oranges.
Bobs Own Pipe
27-01-2006, 01:38
GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

GO TO A BETTER ONE, SPOTTY.

So because I won't answer them right away I'm lying about studying Political Science?

I'm sure you're studying PoliSci, but as you're studying in the US, your PoliSci diploma'll be sure to come in handy as a dishcloth sooner than it'll lead to anything worthwhile - other than an academic career teaching US PoliSci to other people in need of dishcloths.

GET A LIFE!

GET A WIFE!
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:39
Actually as someone who holds a Masters degree in poli-sci, I already knew you were lying. So no need to answer anything.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh my god Steph! You really are off your rocker.

Now, as far as journalism goes, yes, of course it's a bigger story, but now you're talking apples and oranges.

Considering the story deals with Politics, no it isn't.
Undelia
27-01-2006, 01:39
No, the world revolves around the USA doesn't it? And if so, than what happens in Canada is far more important to American interests than what Hamas does. Given Hamas only beef is with Israel and has never posed a threat to America.. but all you lil neo-cons are so brainwashed you can't see the woods for the trees.
You have a point. I believe Canada does fifty percent of it’s trade with the US, could be wrong, though. That’s a huge amount of business, not to mention so many of you live so near the border that you’re bound to spend money in the US. You guys have oil.

Meanwhile, Israel is a world away. I wouldn’t give a flying fuck if the whole country fell off the face of the earth.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:41
GO TO A BETTER ONE, SPOTTY.

I'm at a very good school thank you very much.

I'm sure you're studying PoliSci, but as you're studying in the US, your PoliSci diploma'll be sure to come in handy as a dishcloth sooner than it'll lead to anything worthwhile - other than an academic career teaching US PoliSci to other people in need of dishcloths.

*yawns*

GET A WIFE!

I'm working on it.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:43
HAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh my god Steph! You really are off your rocker.



Considering the story deals with Politics, no it isn't.

Corneliu.. you only re-enforce my belief that you're lying with every statement you make. political science has nothing to do with journalism and visa versa.. why do you confuse the two?

I suspect too much Fox News..lol
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 01:49
Corneliu.. you only re-enforce my belief that you're lying with every statement you make. political science has nothing to do with journalism and visa versa.. why do you confuse the two?

Actually, politics does coincide with journalism since Journalism plays a big part in elections.

I am not lying about my studies of political science. I really am studying political science. However, I'm just not as brainwashed as you are. What happened in Palestine will have Middle East Politians scrambling and has upset the balance there.

This is all about International politics. Israel has already said they will not negotiate with a hamas led government. There goes the Peace process in Israel. Just when they were making headway. Looks like it has suffered a major setback.

I guess you don't know much about international politics otherwise you wouldn't be making the statements you are making.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:56
Actually, politics does coincide with journalism since Journalism plays a big part in elections.

They don't teach you that journalism should effect your view as a political scientist in poli-sci at a university level Corneliu. They teach you how the media affects events, and how they manipulate events.. propaganda and so on. But they certainly do not teach that the bigger story is the more relevant one in political science, because often it's not. You seem to be under some delusion that what happens in Israel has bigger political ramification to American interests than what happens in Canada. Sure it makes for a better story if you're a journalist, but not if you're a political scientist! Doh! *BUSTED!*

So based on that, I really find it very hard to believe you know the first thing about political science, I've always maintained that belief as has my husband. I still believe we're correct.
Maelog
27-01-2006, 01:56
Corneliu and Stephistan... Kindly get a room, you're hogging the thread with your pathetic ad hominems.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 01:58
Corneliu and Stephistan... Kindly get a room, you're hogging the thread with your pathetic ad hominems.

Actually, I'm going to stand up for Corneliu on this one and myself. Corneliu and I have been around NS a lot longer than you.. we always dance like this with each other, hell at times we even agree on some subjects if you can imagine that. No matter how much we have both insulted each other in the couple of years that we have debated on this forum I have never went and complained to mod about Corneliu and he has never complained about me. So, I guess you could always ignore us.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 02:13
They don't teach you that journalism should effect your view as a political scientist in poli-sci at a university level Corneliu.

Duh! Emotions should never run your thoughts. Kinda like what your doing now.

They teach you how the media affects events, and how they manipulate events.. propaganda and so on. But they certainly do not teach that the bigger story is the more relevant one in political science, because often it's not.

Your right its not. This time though, it is since it deals with International politics.

You seem to be under some delusion that what happens in Israel has bigger political ramification to American interests than what happens in Canada.

Uhh that's because it does? Apparently you can't get your thick skulled head outside of US and Canada. Guess what? There's a whole world out there. A world far bigger than you and me! Apparently, you do not care about the world and International politics as a whole. I'm not coming at it from an American perspective but from the perspective of someone who follows politics. This has already caused waves and now, the Peace Process is in jeapordy if not dead. I do not care about American Interests but for Mid East Stability. Something you don't seem to care about.

Sure it makes for a better story if you're a journalist, but not if you're a political scientist! Doh! *BUSTED!*

So childish I cna't believe i'm talking to an adult, wife, and mother of 2. I feel sorry for your kids.

So based on that, I really find it very hard to believe you know the first thing about political science, I've always maintained that belief as has my husband. I still believe we're correct.

Based on what you just said, I find it hard to believe that you actually have a masters in Political Science.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 02:15
Actually, I'm going to stand up for Corneliu on this one and myself. Corneliu and I have been around NS a lot longer than you.. we always dance like this with each other, hell at times we even agree on some subjects if you can imagine that. No matter how much we have both insulted each other in the couple of years that we have debated on this forum I have never went and complained to mod about Corneliu and he has never complained about me. So, I guess you could always ignore us.

She's right. We may insult one another but we both know we mean nothing by it. In fact, I have the highest respects for Stephistan :)
Bobs Own Pipe
27-01-2006, 02:16
I hope I'm not too late to suggest this would be about the time that Corneliu alludes to his globetrotting militarist father, who no doubt has chatted with a wide enough cross-section of both peoples to form a completely unbiased opinion as to the true nature of international politics, thus endowing Corneliu with an equal experience of the middle east, presumably through aural osmosis.

I hope i'm not too late to mention this possibility.
Stephistan
27-01-2006, 02:17
snip

Sorry Corneliu, I have to hand in my dance card for the night. Speaking of my kids, I have a 7 year old to put to bed..lol

You have yourself a nice evening and don't forget to tell your sister I said hello. ;)

Nite everyone! :)
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 02:20
I hope I'm not too late to suggest this would be about the time that Corneliu alludes to his globetrotting militarist father, who no doubt has chatted with a wide enough cross-section of both peoples to form a completely unbiased opinion as to the true nature of international politics, thus endowing Corneliu with an equal experience of the middle east, presumably through aural osmosis.

I hope i'm not too late to mention this possibility.

Do not insult my father otherwise, it'll get very ugly very fast. My father is not a militarist. Yes he is in the military and I won't deny it. I'm quite proud of my father for serving his country honorably for 33 years.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 02:20
Sorry Corneliu, I have to hand in my dance card for the night. Speaking of my kids, I have a 7 year old to put to bed..lol

You have yourself a nice evening and don't forget to tell your sister I said hello. ;)

Nite everyone! :)

I have to go to work myself so I'm leaving as well. Night Steph and my love to the family :)
Swilatia
27-01-2006, 02:21
meh. its just another nation that is not poland.
The Chinese Republics
27-01-2006, 03:30
http://www.optimuscrime.com/uploaded_images/inaug-phonecall-724858.jpg
Tardyland
27-01-2006, 03:34
Actually Corneliu, you don't have the popular support numbers right. The Bloc Quebecois only has 10.5% of popular support across Canada, but because their support is centered in Quebec, they gain lots of seats. The New Democratic party has 17.5% popular support across Canada, but because their support is spread across the entire country, they end up with less seats.

You've accidentally swapped the popular support percentages for the NDP and the Bloc - probably because you assumed that more seats automatically meant that a party had more popular support.
Either way it means some Canadians are going to Iraq so we can bring our tired boys home. Go Canada... And don't forget the body armor.
Silliopolous
27-01-2006, 03:54
Either way it means some Canadians are going to Iraq so we can bring our tired boys home. Go Canada... And don't forget the body armor.


Not a chance. Harper has already stated that no Canadians would be sent to Iraq. He may have supported it in '03, but he is very much aware that such an action today would be political suicide for his party.
Bobs Own Pipe
27-01-2006, 04:31
Either way it means some Canadians are going to Iraq so we can bring our tired boys home. Go Canada... And don't forget the body armor.
You're dreaming in Technicolour. Clean up after yourselves, self-appointed World Cops. We don't do your washing up.
CanuckHeaven
27-01-2006, 05:18
http://www.optimuscrime.com/uploaded_images/inaug-phonecall-724858.jpg
Totally effen hilarious!!! :D
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 06:16
Totally effen hilarious!!! :D

I can say this with all honesty that I agree with CH here.
Crimsdale
27-01-2006, 07:05
Well Harper has angered the us a lil already

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/01/26/wilkins-harper060126.html

At least they are defending their boarders now.
Crimsdale
27-01-2006, 07:08
100% accurate.

And I'm sure if Canada elected a terrorist organisation it would also be big news. But they didn't they elected a Conservative government and thats that.
Corneliu
27-01-2006, 07:10
And I'm sure if Canada elected a terrorist organisation it would also be big news. But they didn't they elected a Conservative government and thats that.

Everyone saw this election coming so it didn't come as any big surprise.

Hamas winning the Palestinian elections? Now that was a surprise, even to hamas.