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You have to believe that the traditional family structure is inheritantly wrong and that it doesn't matter if lots of children are being brought up in delinquent or fatherless homes.

You have to believe that people should be payed not on the basis of performance or the ability to do the job, but on the basis that they should not be payed more than a person of the opposite gender doing the same job.

You have to believe that it is more important that the ethnic makeup of a company's or an institution's membership reflects the ethnic makeup of the general population, than is the standard of the company's or institution's output or productivity.

You have to believe that a criminal who has harmed a victim should not be punished and that a victim who resorts to self defence is in the wrong because they had money and a job and the criminal didn't.

You have to believe that there should be no one accepted standard for behaviour in public and that badly or antisocially behaved people should never be punished no matter how many times they have been warned or threatened.

You have to believe that all tradition is wrong and should be totally changed even if a traditional method works perfectly well with no findable flaws.

You have to believe that an individual country should surrender its own lawmaking practices and constitutional freedoms ans instead have its laws mandated by a federal bureaucracy in another country over a thousand miles away.

You have to believe that a country's economy can only be successful if it combines with other countries into a one-size-fits-all economic policy an a single monetary union.

You have to believe that all religion is bad and can only be used for evil and destructive purposes even when some of the most effective and caring people in history based thier actions on a religious base.

You have to believe that the government should bribe people into taking irresponsable actions in thier lives and relying on welfare benefits.

You have to believe law abiding citizens cannot be trusted with firearms, even when criminals will have guns anyway and when there are other sharp and heavy objects that can be used as murder weapons.

You have to believe that while killing a baby after it is born is murder, it is perfectly okay to kill it before it is born if that is convenient for the would-be mother or family.

Someone's never heard of Classical Liberalism. :rolleyes:

The Nazz is going to be pissed.

If you are a n00b

you post a list like this and then pat yourself on the back for cutting and pasting, blissfully unaware that you've just made an ass of yourself.

You have to make a lot of broad generalisations with foundations in Conservative scare tactics.

In certain cases, I believe in post-birth abortions.

If you had your way, you would love in a fantasy world where rabbits fly and suck the blood of wild ducks.

3) Thou Shalt not Covet thy neighbour's threads. For the love of spam, seeing four hundred threads about guns, Bush, and Euro-Ameri centrism gets boring. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464525)


Obey thy Commandments!

*snip*I'm roughly on the centre right, and even I, someone to whom this little diatribe apparently doesn't apply, have not heard such a load of generalised gibberish on this forum in months. What a simplistic little vacuum you must live in! Thanks for the laugh ;)

I can't imagine that anyone, regardless of their political position, appreciates being told what they have to believe.

In certain cases, I believe in post-birth abortions.
Case in point. ;)

You have to believe that the traditional family structure is inheritantly wrong and that it doesn't matter if lots of children are being brought up in delinquent or fatherless homes.
Wrong. I just believe that the "traditional family structure" shouldn't be the ONLY family structure.

You have to believe that people should be payed not on the basis of performance or the ability to do the job, but on the basis that they should not be payed more than a person of the opposite gender doing the same job.
Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. If Sally does a better job than Joe, Sally deserves more incentives. If Joe does a better job than Sally, Joe deserves more incentives. It's that simple.

You have to believe that it is more important that the ethnic makeup of a company's or an institution's membership reflects the ethnic makeup of the general population, than is the standard of the company's or institution's output or productivity.
Wrong. Affirmative action is, in my opinion, rubbish.

You have to believe that a criminal who has harmed a victim should not be punished and that a victim who resorts to self defence is in the wrong because they had money and a job and the criminal didn't.
Not at all right. Generally we just believe that both should not only be "punished" as you say but also aided in rehabilitation and changing their life.

You have to believe that there should be no one accepted standard for behaviour in public and that badly or antisocially behaved people should never be punished no matter how many times they have been warned or threatened.
I don't even know where you pulled this one from.

You have to believe that all tradition is wrong and should be totally changed even if a traditional method works perfectly well with no findable flaws.
Ditto here.....no clue where you got the idea from. But you're wrong again. I don't know that I've ever said "yeah, this is working well enough, but it's tradition, and down with fucking tradition".

You have to believe that an individual country should surrender its own lawmaking practices and constitutional freedoms ans instead have its laws mandated by a federal bureaucracy in another country over a thousand miles away.
Hmmm.....no, wrong. That's why we're our own country, and we worked hard for our soverignty.....read a history book.

You have to believe that a country's economy can only be successful if it combines with other countries into a one-size-fits-all economic policy an a single monetary union.
Wrong. But I'm not going to try to make you understand this one. It probably doesn't matter to your small-minded little life of probably never leaving the country, therefore not concerning yourself with exchange rates to other countries. You just pluck your banjo, Jimbo.

You have to believe that all religion is bad and can only be used for evil and destructive purposes even when some of the most effective and caring people in history based thier actions on a religious base.
Wrong. I'm a staunch Catholic. Many liberals are religious. Get over it.

You have to believe that the government should bribe people into taking irresponsable actions in thier lives and relying on welfare benefits.
Nope. Same deal with affirmative action -- Welfare's pretty well rubbish anymore. However, in terms of SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS, something should be done.

You have to believe law abiding citizens cannot be trusted with firearms, even when criminals will have guns anyway and when there are other sharp and heavy objects that can be used as murder weapons.
Well if I believe that then I must be just the biggest, scariest, most well-armed liberal hypocrite of them all. *polishes new Magnum*

You have to believe that while killing a baby after it is born is murder, it is perfectly okay to kill it before it is born if that is convenient for the would-be mother or family.
Nope. Most of us only support abortion for the extreme cases, not for the convenient cases.

Well, sounds like somebody's been brainwashed and hung out to dry with all the others who refuse to think for themselves. Hey, man, read the news once in awhile. Get out and actually talk to people so you really can understand their views. It does a world of good.

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Wow, just wow. That is such bullshit my mouth dropped to the floor.

If you are a n00b

you post a list like this and then pat yourself on the back for cutting and pasting, blissfully unaware that you've just made an ass of yourself.

Like he said. However Im less smart than this guy so I'm going to deconstruct the ridiculous statments that whoever made this post made.

Most people propably shouldn't read these as what I will say is fairly obvious


You have to believe that the traditional family structure is inheritantly wrong and that it doesn't matter if lots of children are being brought up in delinquent or fatherless homes. K, thats just not true. However we liberals do understand that not everyone can be a rich white person living in Ohio, and that its OK if your parents did not live together.

You have to believe that people should be payed not on the basis of performance or the ability to do the job, but on the basis that they should not be payed more than a person of the opposite gender doing the same job.???????????????? k, what? Thats jsut not true

Sorry I'm not going to waste my time responding to all of these but lets just say that noone is dumb enough to beleive the beleifs that you've just assigned to liberals.

Anyways I think we've just figured out why abortion is OK

Yay, im being told what to believe, lets do one for conservitives! even if i cant spell it right.

Someone's never heard of Classical Liberalism. :rolleyes:

The Nazz is going to be pissed.
Heh. With this kind of stuff, I just roll my eyes and laugh at the patheticness of it all.

Simonist']Wrong. I just believe that the "traditional family structure" shouldn't be the ONLY family structure.

-snip-

You shouldn't even waste time responding to this trash. It's not worth the electrons that it's using up on your monitor.

Notice how the original poster hasn't even tried to defend his copy+paste attempt to tell people what to think. In true troll fashion.

*relizes what he really is*
*converts*

What exactly do you hope to accomplish?

You have to believe that a country's economy can only be successful if it combines with other countries into a one-size-fits-all economic policy an a single monetary union.

No, that's common economic sense. 1 currency for 1 connected and interdependent market is better than 25 currencies and 25 national markets each riddled with protectionist and nationalist trade laws.

More international competition+bigger market= better products, stronger growth, more control over price stability.

You have to believe that the traditional family structure is inheritantly wrong


You're a liar.


I wonder if you plan, when you grow up, to apply the same enthusiasm for dishonesty to business dealings.

Then you'd have to go to jail.

"If you are a liberal"

If I were a liberal, I like to think I would kill myself. :D

You shouldn't even waste time responding to this trash. It's not worth the electrons that it's using up on your monitor.

Notice how the original poster hasn't even tried to defend his copy+paste attempt to tell people what to think. In true troll fashion.
Most of the reason that I answer things like that are in the hope that they come back and are proven to be the simpering, non-thinking apes they come off as....well, and 'cause I'm bored as hell until dinner and my evening out. That actually factors a lot into it.

On a normal, interesting, fruitful day, I wouldn't have answered. But I'm itchin' for a REAL debate today.

Simonist']But I'm itchin' for a REAL debate today.

Ernie vs Bert

Simonist']On a normal, interesting, fruitful day, I wouldn't have answered. But I'm itchin' for a REAL debate today.
You won't find a real debate in this thread. The original poster isn't going to return to defend this (he probably couldn't anyway) and i doubt any of the regular conservatives on this board would even lower themselves to try and defend it.

"If you are a liberal"

If I were a liberal, I like to think I would kill myself. :D
But the important thing is, you don't have to think so. :)

lol If I had my way fails it.

<SNIP>.


gee now that youve found a web page declaring what liberals MUST believe, you shoudl get out all your old action figures and have a teaparty where you diss the stupid liberals who believe such crap

darth vader can play rush limbaugh, GIJoe can play michael savage, barbie can be ann coulter, and a transformer can be sean hannity

have fun!

Ernie vs Bert
Oh, don't you get me started on the politics of Sesame Street, Branin. I'm a member of the Homeowners Association and the Neighborhood Watch.

Hey If, you dropped your strawman.

Simonist']Oh, don't you get me started on the politics of Sesame Street, Branin. I'm a member of the Homeowners Association and the Neighborhood Watch.
:D

Politics and political correctness ruined Sesame Street

If I were a liberal, I like to think I would kill myself. :D
You'd hate not to be a Centrist anymore, hey?

Wow....what an idiot....I didn't know there were people this stupid on these forums....

You'd hate not to be a Centrist anymore, hey?
The whole "prodding Eutrusca for not being a real centrist" thing is getting pretty old at this stage. Besides, my reply to him (a few posts up) was much better than yours. ;)

Wow....what an idiot....I didn't know there were people this stupid on these forums....

It's an Internets forum, would you expect any less?

Well, people tend to at least appear to be more intelligent around here...

http://www.myoldtruck.com/gallery/files/1/2/9/jeez_not_this_shit_again.jpg

You have to believe that while killing a baby after it is born is murder, it is perfectly okay to kill it before it is born if that is convenient for the would-be mother or family.
let's be brainwashed!
hmm.SMOKE if condoms didn't break, SMOKE we wouldn't be having this conversation.SMOKE
you have to SMOKE believe his/her mother jumped as many flights in an SMOKE m.c. escher(sp?) painting.
ARE YOU SMOKING YET?

EVERYBODY LOVES POST-BIRTH ABORTIONS!!!
coughfamilyguywhitetextcough

If I Had My Way, you have lost your Yiddish Cup. (http://ylyyclol.ytmnd.com/)

:headbang: Don't you just love these assholes who assign beliefs to people they don't even know...

If I Had My Way, you have lost your Yiddish Cup. (http://ylyyclol.ytmnd.com/)
Well then who *won* the Yiddish Cup? My bet is Israel

"If you are a liberal"

If I were a liberal, I like to think I would kill myself. :D
As a liberal, I believe you have the right.

Well then who *won* the Yiddish Cup? My bet is Israel
I went out for it, but only because I thought they said Quidditch Cup.

*snip*.

Way to make a fool of yourself to start of your time in NS.

if you are a conservative, you believe the old ways are best.
so, why do you have a computer in your grass hut while your village hunts elk in the forest?

You have to believe that the traditional family structure is inheritantly wrong and that it doesn't matter if lots of children are being brought up in delinquent or fatherless homes.
No you don't. You just have to let people go on with their lives.

You have to believe that people should be payed not on the basis of performance or the ability to do the job, but on the basis that they should not be payed more than a person of the opposite gender doing the same job.
:rolleyes: No you don't. You just have to believe in BOTH merit AND opportunity for all to succeed or fail.

You have to believe that it is more important that the ethnic makeup of a company's or an institution's membership reflects the ethnic makeup of the general population, than is the standard of the company's or institution's output or productivity.
No, you don't. That is just inverted racism BS IMO.

You have to believe that a criminal who has harmed a victim should not be punished and that a victim who resorts to self defence is in the wrong because they had money and a job and the criminal didn't.
No, you don't. Everyone who is responsible agrees that punishment and self-defence take an important part in Justice.

You have to believe that there should be no one accepted standard for behaviour in public and that badly or antisocially behaved people should never be punished no matter how many times they have been warned or threatened.
What do you exactly mean when you use the words "accepted standard"? What is it? Is it YOUR standard? :p

You have to believe that all tradition is wrong and should be totally changed even if a traditional method works perfectly well with no findable flaws.
No, you don't. You just have to stand for all things fair, whether they are traditional or not is totally irrelevant. Next.

You have to believe that an individual country should surrender its own lawmaking practices and constitutional freedoms ans instead have its laws mandated by a federal bureaucracy in another country over a thousand miles away.
No, you don't. You just have to realize that your own little country doesn't exist alone in the world. No country can be really independant.

You have to believe that a country's economy can only be successful if it combines with other countries into a one-size-fits-all economic policy an a single monetary union.
No, you don't. You just have to believe in both free trade and fair trade as a means for reaching development. I'm from the EU, so I know what I'm talking about.

You have to believe that all religion is bad and can only be used for evil and destructive purposes even when some of the most effective and caring people in history based thier actions on a religious base.
No, you don't. You just have to believe that religion is bad WHEN it is used for evil and destructive purposes.

You have to believe that the government should bribe people into taking irresponsable actions in thier lives and relying on welfare benefits.
No, you don't. You just have to believe that any responsible government should eliminate the threat of extreme poverty. It's not about laziness. It's just about being humane, which you obviously aren't, or at least you don't seem so.

You have to believe law abiding citizens cannot be trusted with firearms, even when criminals will have guns anyway and when there are other sharp and heavy objects that can be used as murder weapons.
No, you don't. You just have to look at the facts and see that the right to bear arms actually kills people and leads towards a more violent society. Compare USA vs. Europe.

You have to believe that while killing a baby after it is born is murder, it is perfectly okay to kill it before it is born if that is convenient for the would-be mother or family.
No, you don't. You just have to believe that you can't protect someone that isn't a citizen, because he/she hasn't even born! That seems natural to me.

Besides, if abortion is illegal (and I'm from a country where abortion is still illegal!!!), no one (believe me, NO ONE) will stop making abortions. Here in Portugal abortion is very illegal and everyone does it, because it's done in a situation of extreme despair, and in despair you don't give a fuck whether the abortion is illegal or not. That's reality for you.

http://www.myoldtruck.com/gallery/files/1/2/9/jeez_not_this_shit_again.jpg
Hehehe! :D