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If your suntan oil can change the sex of fish, what can do it to you?

Minoriteeburg
22-01-2006, 08:29
If your suntan oil can change the sex of fish, what can do it to you?
The stuff is not only on our skin: it's in our tap water and lunches too
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Published: 22 January 2006
Spare a thought for the male hornyhead turbot. For despite its name, it is changing gender. And the sunscreens that symbolise bronzed sex appeal may be partly to blame.

Scientists have found that male hornyhead turbot and English sole, feeding near sewage outfalls on the Californian coast, are being feminised - and a chemical found in sunscreens is the likely culprit.

Meanwhile, Swiss researchers have found other suspected gender-bender chemicals from sun creams and oils building up in fish in their rivers.

Scientists at the University of California, Riverside, found that two-thirds of the male turbot and sole near a sewage outfall three miles off the surfers' paradise of Huntington Beach, near Los Angeles, were growing ovary tissue in their testes. A similar study by the Southern California Coastal Water Research Project found fish affected all along the coast. The American research is the first to find sex changes in fish in the open ocean.

Research on the feminising of fish in British rivers by the UK Environment Agency, exclusively reported in The Independent on Sunday, concluded in 2002 that oestrogen in urine from the contraceptive pill was to blame

But the University of California scientists found that the only culprit they could "exclusively identify" is oxybenzone, used to protect the skin from the ultraviolet component of sunlight.

Oxybenzone, which mimics oestrogen's chemical make-up, is washed off tanned bodies in the shower, passes through sewage works unchanged and settles on the seabed, where bottom-feeding fish eat it.

The scientists suspect the sunscreens are a contributory factor along with other pollutants, which they have yet to identify, such as DDT and PCBs. The new Swiss research, however, shows two other suspected gender-bender substances used in sunscreen and lip balm - octocrylene and 4-methylbenzylidene camphor - also building up alarmingly in fish.

They fear that people are being exposed to the chemicals several times over, first by putting them on their skin, and then injesting them in drinking water and the fish they eat. But the cosmetics industry denies the chemicals are dangerous, and says that"sunscreen phobia" could lead to more cancers. For, unlike other cosmetics, sunscreens unquestionably save lives. About 100,000 new cases of skin cancer are diagnosed in Britain each year, of which 7,300 are particularly deadly melanomas that kill more than 1,600 people a year. Cancer Research UK fears melanoma numbers will treble over the next 30 years.

However, there have been other concerns about potential health effects. Some clear sunscreens use nanoparticles so small that they can penetrate the skin and even get into the brain.

There is also concern about a the universal use of sunscreens. By shielding ourselves from sunlight, we produce less vitamin D, which protects against as many as 16 different cancers.

Spare a thought for the male hornyhead turbot. For despite its name, it is changing gender. And the sunscreens that symbolise bronzed sex appeal may be partly to blame.

Scientists have found that male hornyhead turbot and English sole, feeding near sewage outfalls on the Californian coast, are being feminised - and a chemical found in sunscreens is the likely culprit.

Meanwhile, Swiss researchers have found other suspected gender-bender chemicals from sun creams and oils building up in fish in their rivers.

Scientists at the University of California, Riverside, found that two-thirds of the male turbot and sole near a sewage outfall three miles off the surfers' paradise of Huntington Beach, near Los Angeles, were growing ovary tissue in their testes. A similar study by the Southern California Coastal Water Research Project found fish affected all along the coast. The American research is the first to find sex changes in fish in the open ocean.

Research on the feminising of fish in British rivers by the UK Environment Agency, exclusively reported in The Independent on Sunday, concluded in 2002 that oestrogen in urine from the contraceptive pill was to blame

>>FULL STORY (http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article340237.ece).
Undelia
22-01-2006, 08:37
The source of emo kids has been discovered at last.
Minoriteeburg
22-01-2006, 08:37
The source of emo kids has been discovered at last.


LOL
Delator
22-01-2006, 08:45
What's suntan oil??

*lives in Wisconsin...is paler than a sheet* :p
Liverbreath
22-01-2006, 08:47
Well that certainly explains much. To think everyone thought it was hollywoods fault. So has Arnold announced funding for girlymen testing?
Straughn
22-01-2006, 08:49
No surprise here.
I'd read about the anti-barnacle paint they'd used in Boston Harbor back in the 70's and 80's changing sex characteristics of the clams down there ... even gave the females schlongs that would put a lot of posters here to shame.
Saint Jade
22-01-2006, 09:12
Thats why I've never worn suntan oil...:eek:
Alinania
22-01-2006, 09:32
Yuck...just imagine how all that sun screen got into the river in the first place. Poor fish...

That said...why'd you post half of the paragraphs twice??
[NS]Simonist
22-01-2006, 09:32
The source of emo kids has been discovered at last.
Then what about the much less-devoted but more hated scene kids? Are we still sticking with the poser theory?
I actually quite like scene kids, though....all the "fashion" for none of the tears.
Newtsburg
22-01-2006, 23:54
I've never trusted the sunscreen industry. They always tout out skin cancer research, but never reveal who funds it...I have my suspicions.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-01-2006, 00:07
I've never trusted the sunscreen industry. They always tout out skin cancer research, but never reveal who funds it...I have my suspicions.
Like, duh, it's the fault of the Republican controlled Liberal-Jew Corporatist Media.
Nadkor
23-01-2006, 00:09
Awesome, I gotta get me some of that suntan oil.
Call to power
23-01-2006, 00:15
I think I might of used those brands before!
Damor
23-01-2006, 00:20
People aren't fish.

They also don't taste as well when fried in batter.
(At least not if you fry them face down, they can't taste anythign much after that)
Megaloria
23-01-2006, 00:21
The source of emo kids has been discovered at last.

Luckily it'll work back to the norm soon, since emo kids don't go to the beach because the girl they like might be there and she might be with some guy and that would make them sad and besides they have to update their MySpace.
Straughn
23-01-2006, 03:58
Like, duh, it's the fault of the Republican controlled Liberal-Jew Corporatist Media.
Ahem, see my last post. ;)
Case in point.
Colodia
23-01-2006, 04:03
Wow. Finally I see something that our local University of California, Riverside has done. And I like it. ;)

Sorry for being off-topic. Just saying.
Free Mercantile States
23-01-2006, 04:05
If your question was serious, I suggest you rethink it. There's no relationship; we regularly consume things that certain animals couldn't tolerate, and some animals can eat things that would kill us. We use drugs in certain ways and dosages that would warp and sicken us if we used them differently. The association you make is both baseless and alarmist. Unless and until actual evidence of similarity of effect in humans is found, common sense tells us that the likelihood that an effect suntan lotion has on fish will not be replicated in us.
Liverbreath
23-01-2006, 04:21
If your question was serious, I suggest you rethink it. There's no relationship; we regularly consume things that certain animals couldn't tolerate, and some animals can eat things that would kill us. We use drugs in certain ways and dosages that would warp and sicken us if we used them differently. The association you make is both baseless and alarmist. Unless and until actual evidence of similarity of effect in humans is found, common sense tells us that the likelihood that an effect suntan lotion has on fish will not be replicated in us.

Enough with the negative vibes and facts here! Can't you see there's a historical LA courtroom scam equal too or better than Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson combined. Probably the largest class action lawsuit in history with the jury hand picked from the local First Baptist Church! There won't be a dry eye even on FOX. I can hear it now.

...Judge Ito!! It is not Jonny's fault he is gay. Coppertone did it to him! Everyone in Califiornia will immediately come out of the clothest for their cut, and liberal arts colleges will be flush with grants looking for a cure well into the 22nd century and Hollywood...well they will still be a laughing stock, but what the hell. Not everyone should get rich off this.
Harlesburg
23-01-2006, 11:42
Stupid Punks who can't get a tan.
Stupid Punks who sun bake.
Why can't you sun tan?
Stupid Punks.
Stupid Punks.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-01-2006, 12:10
Well, I'm not convinced that something that affects fish will affect me the same way. But when it comes to my genitals, I'm not willing to take any chances.

To the scientists: Keep researchng it, fuckers!!! I want weekly updates! :eek:
Peisandros
23-01-2006, 12:15
I'm from New Zealand.. Never heard of "suntan oil". We just go outside and get Melanoma :)
Mariehamn
23-01-2006, 12:18
What's suntan oil??

*lives in Wisconsin...is paler than a sheet* :p
*lives in Michigan and Finland*

*proudly lifts up shirt sleeve to reveal a line*

*that is, a tan-line*

:p

Suntan oil protects my skin while giving me a nice bake.
My penis hasn't inverted itself yet.
Or fallen off.
I'm hairier than ever.
I feel safe.
The Atomic Alliance
23-01-2006, 12:48
Suntan oil = Suncream/Sun block

Just a sales tactic/Americanised phrase for the same thing

I've seen "tanning oil" for sale, and its just a weak sun cream (SPF 9, as opposed to the more usual SPF 15+ or 30+)
Peisandros
23-01-2006, 12:51
Suntan oil is sun screen? Hmm.. I see. "Oil" does not exactly describe the white sun screen we get down here, nor the pink/green zinc also used as a sun block.
Jeruselem
23-01-2006, 13:57
Never use it, but then my skin is all messed up by now.
Lovely tropics.
JuNii
23-01-2006, 14:06
What's suntan oil??

*lives in Wisconsin...is paler than a sheet* :p
*Lifts up shirt*
HA! I win... I'm whiter than you are! :D
Straughn
24-01-2006, 09:56
*Lifts up shirt*
HA! I win... I'm whiter than you are! :D
I'm surprised it took this far into two pages for the thread to turn soft-core porn.
Deep Kimchi
24-01-2006, 15:17
The source of emo kids has been discovered at last.
what, fish and chips?