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NATIONSTATES PREDICTS: CONSERVATIVE MINORITY

Results are in:

# of Seats / Vote %

CONSERVATIVE: 124 / 36.3
LIBERAL: 103 / 30.2
NDP: 29 / 17.5
BQ: 51 / 10.5
OTHER: 1 / 5.6

Total: 308 / 100

Conclusion: CONSERVATIVE Minority Government





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Well, this is the final thread of the "The Official Canadian Election 2006 in NS" series.

To start the discussion, it seems Canada will get a Conservative minority government (source (http://democraticspace.com/blog/2006/01/jan-19-2006-election-update-conservative-minority/)). I would be surprised if the Liberals manage to win this election, not going to happen this time. Also if the NDP manage to pick up more than 30 seats, I would be very impressed. Any discussions?

Feel free to take the poll.

the NDP isn't going to get anywhere near 30 seats.

the NDP isn't going to get anywhere near 30 seats.BAH!!!

If we tell Paul Martin to STFU, we would've got 50!

I'm hoping for a Liberal-NDP coalition. I understand that this would be very unlikely, but there still is a chance.

Liberal - NDP coalition government? That would be great. But that's if both parties cooperate this time, and more seat combined than the Reform Party. Damn, should've put "Coalition" option in the poll. :headbang:

I just hope my Canadian betters will keep in mind a quote from Huey P. Long (Democrat-La.), one of the most corrupt politicians in US history.
Those of you who come in with me now will receive a big piece of the pie. Those of you who delay, and commit yourselves later, will receive a smaller piece of pie. Those of you who don't come in at all will receive-GOOD GOVERNMENT!
The only difference being that Huey Long died before he could deliver. Paul Martin and his predecessor actually pulled it off.

I'm sorry but Paul Martin's government had nothing to do with the scandal. He has been fully exonerated.

Wrong. He's as guilty as a Mafia boss.
Conservative Majority is the only acceptable outcome. Anything less will result in another election next year.
We sure don't want that band of criminals back in office; no one with any brains could possibly vote Liberal.
You'd think, though, with the NDP and the Greens splitting the leftist vote, we could get a decent government in Ottawa once in a while..

Anybody who wants any party to be seated as a majority government is either naive or an idiot.

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Wrong. He's as guilty as a Mafia boss.
Conservative Majority is the only acceptable outcome. Anything less will result in another election next year.
We sure don't want that band of criminals back in office; no one with any brains could possibly vote Liberal.
You'd think, though, with the NDP and the Greens splitting the leftist vote, we could get a decent government in Ottawa once in a while..

I totally dissagree with everything you've just finished saying.

And I totally disagree with everything you just said.

Partin Martin has been exonerated and had nothing to do with the AdScam. If not he would be currently under investigation instead of Chretien.

How can anyone who cares about humanity vote Liberal?

The Liberals in 1993 promised us safe streets
-in 2000 they brought in quotas for jails allowing more criminals on the streets without ensuring they were rehabilitated. In 2000 Canada had a system where 60% of all criminals were in jails while 40% were on parole etc. The government to save money changed that to 50%/50% with no true way of ensuring those being released were not a threat to our society.

Now we have a huge increase in violent crime on the streets of Toronto

Mr. Martin promises to toughen border security when in his last term in office he cut RCMP border posts (meaning there was less security at our border)

Mr. Martin promises a ban on handguns when 90% of all gun related offenses are done with illegal weapons. Furthermore Mr. Cotler, justice minister, stated in August 2005 that gun laws were tough enough and he still is unwilling to change the system properly despite the promises of Mr. Martin.

How can you therefore vote Liberal in light of this. People are dying on the streets of Toronto and Vancouver because criminals are not being kept by the state in correctional institutions until they are no longer a threat to society. Our system should make the criminal prove they are no longer a threat to society before they are released instead of criminals getting probation after being caught killing a person with a gun.

Anyone doubting the accuracy of my information let me know and I will send you links to all my info. The Liberals have failed protecting Canada, the Liberals have allowed terrorism to take place on our city streets. The deaths of our children like Jason Huxtable, and Jane Crepa among others are a direct cause of their inaction to deal with the spiralling violence in our cities. This is unacceptable to accept as Canadians since if your loved ones were directly affected you too would ask for justice.

Please I ask all Canadians on January 23, 2006 to vote ANYTHING BUT Liberal. Remove the Liberals from power anyway possible. This is a government that does not care to protect citizens from criminal gangs. They only have given empty promises and empty words over the last 12 years they have been in office. Their lack of values, and their lack of willingness to defend the safety and security of Canada is not a Canada any Canadian should be willing to accept if you care for humanity.

How can anyone who cares about humanity vote Liberal?I agree with most of what you've said and I am also concerned about those issues. However calling a Liberal voter inhumane is insulting voters, insulting Canadians, insulting Canada and insulting the democratic process.

-in 2000 they brought in quotas for jails allowing more criminals on the streets without ensuring they were rehabilitated. In 2000 Canada had a system where 60% of all criminals were in jails while 40% were on parole etc. The government to save money changed that to 50%/50% with no true way of ensuring those being released were not a threat to our society.
Part of the rehabilitation process occurs after convicts have served their time in jail. There is no scientific method to evaluate a criminal's rehabilitation.

Now we have a huge increase in violent crime on the streets of Toronto.
Actually no... crime stats have gone down however the use of guns has gone up.

I agree with most of what you've said and I am also concerned about those issues. However calling a Liberal voter inhumane is insulting voters, insulting Canadians, insulting Canada and insulting the democratic process.


Part of the rehabilitation process occurs after convicts have served their time in jail. There is no scientific method to evaluate a criminal's rehabilitation.


Actually no... crime stats have gone down however the use of guns has gone up.

My statements are not insults, and to judge them on such is to ignore their purpose. They are to point out that the current government has ignored the true protection of all citizens for long enough and therefore voting for this government will continue that trend.

I then go on to highlight the fact that it absolutely frustrating that after 12 years of writing the Liberals on this issue they have done nothing but stated empty promises to me and to the electorate. I supported Mr. Martin last election on the condition he would strengthen the criminal justice system, I supported Mr. McGuinty (premier of Ontario) and still currently support Mr. McGuinty. However the fact remains that the Martin Liberals, along with the Chretien Liberals have done virutally nothing to stem the increase in violent crime and in fact their quota system has worsened the impact of violent crime leading to the massive amounts of shootings that are now seen in Toronto regularly.

Your information that you noted earlier is not fully correct for the record:
There are methods that are currently being ignored by the Liberal government in ensuring someone is fully rehabilitated before being released from prison. According to documentation, Martin Ferrier, who has 60 convictions for sexual assault, rape, confinement, etc has noted that he wishes to be the most notorious killer in Canadian history. He is scheduled to be released from his Brampton jail cell in July 2006. Mr. Scott Whalen was convicted of 6 counts of sexual abuse on children including a 15 month old girl and he was released from jail in November 2004. The current Liberal ideology federally seems to be ignore it and it will go away, this is unacceptable since these individuals without proper rehabilitation and proper safeguards will reoffend (again in numerous of these cases).

Your information about crime in general is incomplete, violent crime has increased significantly. Murder among other crimes has increased over the last year in Toronto. Furthermore any loss of human life should be unacceptable in our society. The murders of Jason Huxtable and Jane Crepa were preventable. Andre Thompson, one of the two individuals involved in the boxing day shootout that left Jane Crepa dead had 19 charges on file including robbery with a firearm. This was his second firearm offense. If the Martin Liberals had put him in jail for that offense upon conviction for an appropriate length of time then it is possible Jane Crepa would be alive today. I'm not saying she would be alive, however the very fact that this individual was allowed to walk our streets after his second gun offense should be worrisome to the general public. The fact that Mr. Whalen after 6 convictions for sexual abuse of children is allowed free should be worrisome for the general public. The fact that Mr. Ferrier (who has refused all treatment that could help him rehabilitate, who has 60 convictions for sexual assualt, confinement, etc, who has noted he wishes to be Canada's more notorious killer) is to be released in July 2006 should be a concern to the Canadian public.

I point these issues out because the current government ignores them and they affect the people of Canada. Again I plead with all Canadians that this government does not reflect the values of the law abiding citizens of Canada so therefore please on Jan 23, 2006 vote Conservative, NDP, PC, Green, ANYTHING BUT Liberal. Thank you.

I believe the Liberals reflect my personal views on issues far better than any other political entity on the planet.

I believe the Liberals reflect my personal views on issues far better than any other political entity on the planet.

You believe but are you correct? I know you could ask the same of me however enough of this. Curiously what issues are of a concern to you.

Medicare? The Liberals, despite their promises cut $48 billion from medicare, education, and social services since 1994 in transfer payments to the provinces.

Charter issues? The Liberals promise to protect the charter however Mr. Irwin Cotler was unwilling to protect pastors who would be fired if they would refuse to perform same-sex weddings (note I am not here to argue the benefits or argue against same-sex marriage, I point out a charter right that the Liberals fail to protect). Religion is something that is protected under the charter yet the Liberals choose to ignore this in May 2005 when talks were under way to allow same-sex weddings. I saw Mr. Cotler himself on CPAC state that pastors in this situation who lose their religious license because of their stand on this would have to talk to the province to deal with it even though it is a Charter right. Therefore the Liberals only protect Charter issues when it is convenient (furthermore their desire to remove the not-withstanding clause (section 33 of the charter) puts further powers into an unelected body - the courts - to pass laws that Canadians may not believe in. Though you may argue that the current situation suits you, the principle of the matter is dangerous since in time you may be in a situation that the courts are the only ones who can alter the charter and therefore put laws upon you that you disagree with but that the people have no power to change.

Environment? Despite the Liberals stance on Kyoto the environment has gotten worse with the World Wildlife Fund noting that Canadian oceans are the dumping grounds for ships due to lax enforcement by our government. Our environment has gotten worse too with more pollution done since our signing of the Kyoto protocal per capita than even the US has done
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Daycare? Something was in the Liberal redbook, from 1993 on this. Might want to check it out to see how the Liberals fail to keep their promises.

Crime? We have already discussed this in 'brief' however I can provide more case studies to examine it in more detail

Transportation? No future plan has been proposed for infrastructure by the Liberals, furthermore they are unwilling to consider the high speed rail link I noted to them years ago which I have done the economic pricing of and in light of the money they plan to pour into the Pickering Airport Project would be prudent to examine...

Accountability: Jane Stewart misplaced over 1 billion dollars in 1998 and Chretien argued that all should be forgiven (a generalization on my part but his insistance that 1 million or 1 billion was virtually the same thing was ridiculous...). That is before we knew about the Sponsorship Scandal and Option Canada fiasco however I still suspect they are all related.

Military: Sea Kings needing 30 hours of fixing for 1 hour in the air, obsolete submarines catching on fire,... Do not even try and state that the frigates we use are from the Liberals since the Mulroney government was the government that purchased them.

Border Security: We have been becoming increasingly weaker in this area despite the increasing threat posed by Al Qaeda. This is a huge problem in light of the fact that despite Bush thinking his missile shield will save him in the end it will be some ideological nut with a truck (possibly from Canada), that drives into New York and pushes a button...

In light of the fact that our economy depends on the US we need to ensure our borders are secure and as it stands, checking 1 of every 3 who come into our country (whether by plane internationally or even by car from the US) is unacceptable.

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I could go on but anyhow I am tired. I do hope you might answer my question however on what issue is what you personally care about most. I honestly care and am not party loyal. I vote on the issues, always have, always will. I try to keep myself informed which is why I am so anti-Liberal this election. Their quota system for criminals especially ticks me off as does the dictatorship type attitude by the justice minister since in the end human lives are suffering and I am a humanist before everything else.

I'm very annoyed that the Bloc will likely end up with double the seats as the NDP despite the fact that they'll probably be about even in terms of voting %.

I'm very annoyed that the Bloc will likely end up with double the seats as the NDP despite the fact that they'll probably be about even in terms of voting %.

I definetly agree with you on this one. Our current voting system of first past the post is extremely undemocratic. We could have a system such as Australia where you rank your preference (so that via computer balloting only the person with 50% in the ends wins while not having to be stuck with having to vote for one party cause the party you really want to win you fear wont have a chance)

How that works is that say there are 3 people on the ballot

Person 1
Person 2
Person 3

I therefore vote in terms of who I want to represent me most. Let us say that I vote the following (where 1 means 1st place and 3 means last)

Person 1 = 1
Person 2 = 3
Person 3 = 2

The first time they ring up the first votes the following are the results

Person 1 = 11%
Person 2 = 48%
Person 3 = 41%

Since no one earned 50% they strike the lowest person off the ballot and rerun it. They would then get to my ballot and since person 1 is no longer an option they would take my next highest choice, in this case Person 3.

From there they calculate the results

Person 2 = 49%
Person 3 = 51%

Meaning person 3 is elected.

Though that does not address what you have noted about proportional representation Dakini, it is an alternative that I have been trying to get our parliment to accept for some time. Proportional representation is another possibility (where people are elected based on the percentage of votes they get). How they would do this though remains questionable in light of the history of how individuals fight for their riding though I am aware it is in existence in other nations.

I seem to recall reading something about the way Germany does it and it seemed like a good plan, I would do a poor job of describing it though. It was something like if you liked a person who is eligible to run in your riding, but hated their party, you could vote for the person in your riding and then vote for the party you liked. That way, if they won the majority vote in the riding they'd be there and if the party you liked would get supported and could add another representative if they got enough votes... or something.

I cannot vote for the Canadian Neo-Nazi Party, oops sorry, the Conservative Party, I mean. Their far right wing policies will make things a hell of alot worse for most Canadians. Take a look at what happened in BC when the so-called "liberals" were elected there. Massive layoffs of people and alot of problems for the poorer portion of the population.

I also cannot vote for the NDP even though I think Layton is the best leader of any of the parties and I am generally a left-leaning person. I do not believe the best way to make money is to spend money, especially when it is based on out-dated economic policies.

The Liberal Party is the only way to go for me in this election. I have voted for them for a number of years based on policy but this time it is partially based on emotion.

The corruption was taking place in the Cretien government, not the Martin government. These are 2 different factions of the same party.

If you will not vote Liberal and will vote for the Conservatives because of corruption, then don't forget that the Conservatives gave us Brian Mulroney who was probably the most corrupt of all Prime Ministers that we have ever had! The Conservatives never mention him! They want us to forget how corrupt they were when they were in power last.

You may say, "Oh, that was a long time ago!" So was Cretien, at least in political terms. It was Martin who ordered the Adscam investigations, don't forget that. If he was involved, then he would NOT have had it done.

I feel that the Martin Liberals are the only way to go this election.

I want a Conservative majority but It will porb. be a Conservative minority. I still think either way the next P.M. of canada will be Harper

I cannot vote for the Canadian Neo-Nazi Party, oops sorry, the Conservative Party, I mean. Their far right wing policies will make things a hell of alot worse for most Canadians. Take a look at what happened in BC when the so-called "liberals" were elected there. Massive layoffs of people and alot of problems for the poorer portion of the population.

I also cannot vote for the NDP even though I think Layton is the best leader of any of the parties and I am generally a left-leaning person. I do not believe the best way to make money is to spend money, especially when it is based on out-dated economic policies.

The Liberal Party is the only way to go for me in this election. I have voted for them for a number of years based on policy but this time it is partially based on emotion.

The corruption was taking place in the Cretien government, not the Martin government. These are 2 different factions of the same party.

If you will not vote Liberal and will vote for the Conservatives because of corruption, then don't forget that the Conservatives gave us Brian Mulroney who was probably the most corrupt of all Prime Ministers that we have ever had! The Conservatives never mention him! They want us to forget how corrupt they were when they were in power last.

You may say, "Oh, that was a long time ago!" So was Cretien, at least in political terms. It was Martin who ordered the Adscam investigations, don't forget that. If he was involved, then he would NOT have had it done.

I feel that the Martin Liberals are the only way to go this election.

I second that.
The Liberals have made mistakes, no question about it, but the conservatives are like something out of my worst nightmare.

Partin Martin has been exonerated and had nothing to do with the AdScam. If not he would be currently under investigation instead of Chretien.
Dude, nobody cares about Mr. Martin and his exoneration from blame.

It's his party nobody trust anymore.

The Liberals started that retarded sponsorship program where our $$$ end up to corporate cronies that did no work at all, and Mr. Martin never apologise for that as a party.

I'll be happy if he did apologise, but instead he was like: "It's not me, it's Chretien".

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Dude, nobody cares about Mr. Martin and his exoneration from blame.

It's his party nobody trust anymore.

The Liberals started that retarded sponsorship program where our $$$ end up to corporate cronies that did no work at all, and Mr. Martin never apologise for that as a party.

I'll be happy if he did apologise, but instead he was like: "It's not me, it's Chretien".
Should muslims who are in no way involved with terrorist activities apologize for terrorist activities?

If you're not involved in something, but your friends are, then you don't have to apologize for them.

Should muslims who are in no way involved with terrorist activities apologize for terrorist activities?

If you're not involved in something, but your friends are, then you don't have to apologize for them.Hmmm, yeah ur right. But people now don't trust Liberals anymore.

I second that.
The Liberals have made mistakes, no question about it, but the conservatives are like something out of my worst nightmare.

They are a center-right party, the liberals are center-left.

The Liberals started that retarded sponsorship program where our $$$ end up to corporate cronies that did no work at all, and Mr. Martin never apologise for that as a party.
Actually that wasn't all that happened. Most or some of that money went directly back into the Liberal Party election war chest. Hence the kickback scheme.

They are a center-right party
Well, somewhat centre-right. More like moderate right-wing.

They're pretty much fiscally centre-right but they're very socially conservative, something canadians fear. Hopefully it's not going to be that bad since it's going to be a minority government.

the liberals are center-left.
Liberals are neither left, centre, or right. They're simply ditherers.

Get over it. Welcome Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

I'm very annoyed that the Bloc will likely end up with double the seats as the NDP despite the fact that they'll probably be about even in terms of voting %.
I share your annoyance, and I wish my vote for the NDP meant more than the measly 1.75$ it will net them for future campaigns.

We need more proportionnality.

Get over it. Welcome Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Damn, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

They are a center-right party, the liberals are center-left.
No, they are a right-wing party, while the Liberals are center-right.

You're thinking of the 70s Liberals under Trudeau. They haven't been left-of-center since the days of John Turner.

I cannot vote for the Canadian Neo-Nazi Party, oops sorry, the Conservative Party, I mean. Their far right wing policies will make things a hell of alot worse for most Canadians. Take a look at what happened in BC when the so-called "liberals" were elected there. Massive layoffs of people and alot of problems for the poorer portion of the population.

I also cannot vote for the NDP even though I think Layton is the best leader of any of the parties and I am generally a left-leaning person. I do not believe the best way to make money is to spend money, especially when it is based on out-dated economic policies.

The Liberal Party is the only way to go for me in this election. I have voted for them for a number of years based on policy but this time it is partially based on emotion.

The corruption was taking place in the Cretien government, not the Martin government. These are 2 different factions of the same party.

If you will not vote Liberal and will vote for the Conservatives because of corruption, then don't forget that the Conservatives gave us Brian Mulroney who was probably the most corrupt of all Prime Ministers that we have ever had! The Conservatives never mention him! They want us to forget how corrupt they were when they were in power last.

You may say, "Oh, that was a long time ago!" So was Cretien, at least in political terms. It was Martin who ordered the Adscam investigations, don't forget that. If he was involved, then he would NOT have had it done.

I feel that the Martin Liberals are the only way to go this election.


Actually, the Liberals have been the most corrupt in Canadian history and Mr. Martin was finance minister at the time meaning he either knew about or was incompetent.

The Liberals meanwhile have failed to do anything to stem the tide of gun crime in Toronto. In fact their quota system in prison has actually increased it.

It is interesting all the fear mongering done by Liberals when in truth the justice minister has proven to be more of a fascist than anyone else in Canadian history has ever been. Torontonians wish for true justice and he comes and says gun laws are tough enough and insists that he will not be rushed to change them even after the Jane Crepa murder in downtown Toronto. Then the Liberals propose changes to the charter to give even more power to judges and take it from the people. This is all Liberal policy and yet people fail to see the true danger in it due to Liberal fear mongering. We have here a party that says one thing but yet when it comes time to act another thing happens. For the record despite all your claims about Mulroney, though I must admit I was never a fan of him, he was never found to be corrupt.

Actually many of the current Conservatives were never fans of him either which is why they left his party in the mid 1980s.

You should get your facts straight, if you did, you might not vote Liberal

I second that.
The Liberals have made mistakes, no question about it, but the conservatives are like something out of my worst nightmare.

Why? Is it because the Liberals told you so? You actually trust the Liberals?

They told us this election that they plan to get tough on border security, yet they cut 8 RCMP border posts in the last 18 months.

They told us this election that they care about the Canada Health Act making us think they care about medicare when Mr. Martin cut $48 billion from healthcare, education, and social services spending since 1994.

The Liberals say they care about Kyoto yet since Canada signed it we have increased our pollution per capita more than the US. Meanwhile the WWF has stated that we are the worst industrial polluter of oceans in the world now under the Liberals.

They tell us they plan to get tough on crime and yet they imposed quotas on the number of criminals we keep in jails, placing the rest of them on the streets to further reoffend (statistics show violent crime in Toronto is up dramatically and most of this is done by repeat offenders).


The Martin Liberals are the true 'nightmare' as they do not represent the values that Canadians want in their actions.

Damn, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

I've had 'nightmares' for the past number of years with the Liberals in charge of our justice system. Martin Ferrier has 60 sex convictions, no desire for rehabilitation, a stated desire to become Canada's most notorious criminal, and under the Liberal justice system he is to be released in July 2006. Scott Whalen was released in November 2004 despite 6 sexual abuse convictions including one of a 15 month old girl. Individuals are committing murders, being arrested then being released on bail hours later. In fact you sometimes get faster service in getting bail via our criminal justice system than being looked at within our hospital system due to the Martin Liberals.

This thread has a lot of ideas floating about. :)

Martin seems to be about to be turfed by his own henchmen shortly after the election. He's too tainted as far as the party is concerned. Count on McKenna taking over from Martin.

Martin was supposed to be cleared of the scandal, but this was not bought by the public opinion.

I've seen someone brought up that idiotic idea of electoral reform. First past the post works, so why mess with it. I think that we should have smaller ridings and more of them, instead of creating massive districts that return a block of members. The confusion would see more of the public not voting and the grading idea really does not make sense. Placing one "X" on a ballot is easier to count, and first past the post, we would never have to wait two months to find out who won.

It is likely to be a Conservative minority, but it could still be anything from a Conservative Majority to a Liberal Minority (Too close to call, depending on what happens across the country tomorrow).

This thread has a lot of ideas floating about. :)

Martin seems to be about to be turfed by his own henchmen shortly after the election. He's too tainted as far as the party is concerned. Count on McKenna taking over from Martin.

Martin was supposed to be cleared of the scandal, but this was not bought by the public opinion.

I've seen someone brought up that idiotic idea of electoral reform. First past the post works, so why mess with it. I think that we should have smaller ridings and more of them, instead of creating massive districts that return a block of members. The confusion would see more of the public not voting and the grading idea really does not make sense. Placing one "X" on a ballot is easier to count, and first past the post, we would never have to wait two months to find out who won.

It is likely to be a Conservative minority, but it could still be anything from a Conservative Majority to a Liberal Minority (Too close to call, depending on what happens across the country tomorrow).

Alot of what could happen tomorrow may depend on who actually votes, especially the liberal vote.

Get over it. Welcome Prime Minister Stephen Harper.BAH!

In 9 months, it'll be "Bye bye Stephen Harper and his Reform Government!"

BAH!

Now you know how I feel about the Liberals always winning....

Now you know how I feel about the Liberals always winning....i know :D

I hate Liberals and Reforms.

The most recent polls sugest that on January 22nd the Conservatives have 33% while the Liberals have 30.4%. There has been a sudden shift. The conservatives have dropped 6% while the Liberals have risen 4%.

The main shift towards the liberals has ocurred all over Canada including the west but mainly in Atlantic Canada and Quebec. This is good news. There might be a surprise finish after all.

http://www.sesresearch.com/election/SES%20CPAC%20January%2022%202006E.pdf
PDF file.

22% for the NDP. Wow. :eek::D

So now there's a 50/50 chance of getting a Reform gov't, hope Harper don't win. :p

It can still happen!

DOWN REFORM PARTY!

DOWN REFORM PARTY!
[Preston Manning]I love that word, REFOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRM![/Preston Manning]

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It can still happen!
Yeah, let's cross our fingers and hope for the best. ;)

I'm going to be following this online since I have no access to tv coverage over here in europe.

The toronto star has a pretty cool layout for the results.

I'm not a Conservative, but I wish people could debate this topic without debasing the discussion with baseless insults. I don't like Harper, but you know what? He's not going to destroy the country. Le Gasp! He won't destroy it any more than the Liberals would or the NDP would (and probably less than the Bloc would ;) ). Even if you don't personally agree with his policies, Canada won't explode if Harper gets elected. Get over yourselves.

As for the Australian election system, I think that would kick ass.

It most definitely would kick ass. The instant run-off preferential vote thingie would be pretty cool.

"Green: 1 seat"

wtf?

This is pretty much turning out how we expected, isn't it? Well, Mr. Harper, hope you can tread lightly, because it's all eggshells from hereon in.

This is pretty much turning out how we expected, isn't it? Well, Mr. Harper, hope you can tread lightly, because it's all eggshells from hereon in.
A Conservative minority government will definitely have us back at the polls before long, since they have no natural ally like the Liberals have in the NDP (especially now that they're encroaching on Bloc territory in Quebec).

yay. I love Stephen Harper. A solider on every street corner and the sales tax down to 5%. yeah, like that will happen.

A Conservative minority government will definitely have us back at the polls before long, since they have no natural ally like the Liberals have in the NDP (especially now that they're encroaching on Bloc territory in Quebec).

Well, I think we'll have to see exactly what they have planned before another election happens. Harper has a lot to live up to if he's going to convince Canada that the Tory/Reform option is viable anymore. I think that regardless, though, there's going to be a very solid Liberal-NDP cooperation, and that the Bloc will likely side with whoever looks like they know what they're doing.

I think the conservatives will do a good job. They won't ruin the country - it honestly won't change that much - and they've got fresh ideas. The problem is that no has given them a chance lately, they've been victims of a lot of badmouthing from the liberals and it's scared Canadians too much. In my opinion, we probably WILL go to the polls soon, but I don't expect that it'll be as soon as everyone thinks. People are sick of elections right now, the opposition will be willing to give them a little bit of a chance. If we do have another election ... i think that conservatives will stay strong, even if they fall to liberal again it won't be to the same degree as before.

It looks like were in another minorty gov. how crappy is that? I almost would have preferred a NPD victory. I really would not mind if half the libs walked across the floor to conseritive party.

cuz we all know that the cons. will have a hardtime putting there plans for Canada in to action, and they'll probley undo the work the libs did toward there ends, as thus causing unstablity that the foriegn investers hate. 4 years from now, will all be piss that the libs. and the cons. and NDP will grow even more. The next few terms are going to suck.

NDP MP Nathan Cullen won my riding. :D

So long Mike Scott (Conservative Candidate, former Reform MP), people still hate you lazy asshole. :D

Didn't the conservatives already win? I read on msn I think either did or they were going to.

That's it, I officially hate elections.

No Daily Show or Colbert Report tonight at midnight on CTV.

Go to hell, Canada!

That's it, I officially hate elections.

No Daily Show or Colbert Report tonight at midnight on CTV.

Go to hell, Canada!



Damn, whats wrong with you?

Damn, whats wrong with you?
What's wrong with me is that my comedic opiate has been denied to me since Thursday night.

What's wrong with me is that my comedic opiate has been denied to me since Thursday night.



In the grand scale of things it could be worse.


Seems the conservatives did win. Tell me if I made a mistake.

http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/analysiscommentary/elexblog060123.html

CON 119 6 36.48%
LIB 97 5 30.10%
BQ 49 2 10.49%
NDP 27 2 17.35%
IND 1 0 .53%
OTH 0 0 5.04%

More reliable results:

http://enr.elections.ca/National_e.aspx

about the same.

If I kill anyone between now and tomorrow night, I get to plead insanity.

If I kill anyone between now and tomorrow night, I get to plead insanity.



WTF? Should I be afraid of you?

WTF? Should I be afraid of you?
No, the CTV executives should.

They should be *very* afraid.

TAKE AWAY MY DAILY SHOW, WILL YOU?! HAVE AT YE!

If I kill anyone between now and tomorrow night, I get to plead insanity.You are very welcome to kill me, I'm your main cause for your troubles. :D

You are very welcome to kill me, I'm your main cause for your troubles. :D
Hmm... lick your skin and tell me what it tastes like. I like a salty taste in the flesh I eat.

Hmm... lick your skin and tell me what it tastes like. I like a salty taste in the flesh I eat.
*sprinkles my self in salt*

Yum, tasted like french fries.

No, the CTV executives should.

They should be *very* afraid.

TAKE AWAY MY DAILY SHOW, WILL YOU?! HAVE AT YE!

Thats odd. I was able to watch Colbert and Stewart during the election on something called the Comedy Channel...yeah...

EDIT:

I forgot to mention. I WANT A NEW ELECTION. The conservatives in my riding placed their signs on the property of the Polling Station I was registered at. Quite illegal!

Thats odd. I was able to watch Colbert and Stewart during the election on something called the Comedy Channel...yeah...
Congratulations for not having a crappy basic cable package with half the channels in French, then. *mutters*

It's strange to see how in Quebec where the Tories got their ridings from. They won many traditionaly Bloq ridings rather than from the anglophone Liberal ridings while the Liberals lost out big to the Bloq.

It looks good. I'm quite happy with the result. The Conservatives get a relatively small minority government, thankfully. 124 seats. This allows parliament to keep some of their more radical ideas in check if Harper does in fact pull them out of the old neo-con nap sack. The Liberals + NDP have more seats than the Conservatives and I'm also very happy with that.

Canadians definitely know how to vote.
Change was necessary and change is being delivered. Canadians are also giving Harper a chance to prove himself while refraining from excessive enthusiasm or placing blind faith in his policy and leadership just because we are extremely pissed at the Liberals.

Considering the situation I'm very happy with the results.

Democracy Rules!

WE DID IT.
THE WEST WANTS IN!
THE WEST IS IN!
God bless BC, God bless Alberta, God bless Saskatchewan, God bless Manitoba!
I am so happy, I've actually been drinking tonight (which is not something I do regularly).

WE DID IT.
THE WEST WANTS IN!
THE WEST IS IN!
God bless BC, God bless Alberta, God bless Saskatchewan, God bless Manitoba!
I am so happy, I've actually been drinking tonight (which is not something I do regularly).

Atleast the west will have more of a voice :)

Congratulations for not having a crappy basic cable package with half the channels in French, then. *mutters*
WTF? Here you get can the Comedy Channel with basic cable, or even rabbit ears if you are on the second floor and lucky.

WE DID IT.
THE WEST WANTS IN!
THE WEST IS IN!
God bless BC, God bless Alberta, God bless Saskatchewan, God bless Manitoba!
I am so happy, I've actually been drinking tonight (which is not something I do regularly).Well, at least the term "western alienation" is disappearing. ;)